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- A historical overview of the famous Iron Cross award as seen in many war movies.
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Dumb Patrol 1964
Cross of Iron 1977
Kingdon of Heaven 2005
1864 (2014)
All Quiet on the Western Front 1979
Downfall 2004
Battle for Sevastopol 2015
Das Boot 1981
The Red Baron 2008
Stalingrad 1993
The Bunker 1981
The Blue Max 1966
All Quiet on the Western Front 2022
Ace of Aces 1982
Battle of Britain 1969
Valkyrie 2008
Waterloo 1970
Herr Meets Hare 1945
Hitler: The Rise of Evil 2003
Schindler’s List 1993
Conspiracy 2001
Gramps Is in the Resistance 1983
Rommel 2012
Inglourious Basterds 2009
The Dick Cavett Show
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It's interesting how so many items are considered iconic Nazi items. And yet, the Iron Cross, much like the P08 Luger, were developed long before the rise of the Nazi Party.
Nazis really like to ruin historical icons
They really invented very little that is associated with them. The Swastika is a religious symbol in Bushism and Hinduism, the Nazi salute comes from the Roman Empire, the Nazi Eagle is also a much older symbol. Even the SS dearth’s head takes inspiration from past Germanic militaries and maritime flags.
nothing to boost significance of a relic like creating and fostering a cult personality. Hitler was a master. Most of history's mass murderers had that attribute. The swastika had been used for centuries before the a-holes misappropriated it officially in 1939.
It’s almost like symbols change meanings over time with context or something
@@vokkera6995 Or crazy thought the Nazies toke in the early years a lot from the Kaiserreich to win supporters and in the best case get the Kaiser back so if everything goes to shit they can blame him
“And That’s How I Won The Iron Cross” - Grandpa Simpson (Also Please Cover The Obrez Pistol)
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You'll get your iron cross for this Vonn ryan
"I never thought I could shoot down a German plane. But last year, I proved myself wrong."
At the end of the war Rudel did not want to be captured by the Russians so he flew his Stuka an American airfield near Prague. As his aircraft came to a halt at the airfield he had the canopy open but slammed it shut when a young American climbed aboard his aircraft with the intension of stealing his Knight's Cross. He refused to open the canopy until he could do so safely.
I read his autobiography and he mentions that his awards were stolen at the time of his capture.
@@lookup49 Thanks. That's very interesting because I remember that in Mark Felton's video on Rudel and in it he mentions the incident when the young American airman tried to steal the award and I have found Mark to be very good at his history. I will have to rewatch the video.
it should be against the Geneva Convention to steal an enemy or allie's hard owned National Medals. Germans cant steal Medal of Honours and Americans cant steal Iron Crosses.
@@bigblue6917ehh Felton is not without mistakes.
@@VonDilling In general I'm wary of stories that have only surfaced since all the veterans are dead and also wary of just how many have surfaced in the last few years. For example, in Operation Biting, the autobiography stated 90 soldiers not 200. I think sometimes there can be several accounts from different perspectives and historians are picking and choosing sometimes.
David Niven was always the absolute gentleman and a brilliant guy. Sadly missed.
i read his book, The World's a Balloon ( published 1971 ).. very witty and self-deprecating . Niven was a true gent who played down his role as a WW2 commando - he could have stayed in hollywood where his career had just taken off prior to UK entry into the war. studio bosses didnt want to let him go even.
Brave chap
Niven did a nice acting job in "Escape to Athena" in 1979 . Roger moore was like a rat on a drainpipe.
Professor Blake. Great movie. Loved it. @@TellySavalas-or5hf
Great story teller too, draws you in.@@coling3957
Another famous person associated with the Iron Cross was Siegfried Müller, better known under his nickname "Kongo-Müller" for his involvement in the Simba-Rebellion in the 1960s as a mercenary. He wore the Cross on his uniform in combat and unproven rumors are that he kept a second one on his pyjama
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We used to joke that the basic Army Marksmanship badge looked an awful lot like the Iron Cross. In the 80’s and 90’s, most in my unit would use liquid Brasso to remove the black from them. The Expert Marksman badges looked especially awesome all in high luster silver. We’d even do the clasps (rifle, M203, grenade, etc.) the same way.
The German troops would jokingly call the cross with leaves and swords the "plate with salad and cutlery".
why remove the black?
@@VikingTeddyAnd who said Germans weren’t funny😂
@@VikingTeddyBut what kind of salad though? Would it be...
_Kaiser_ salad? Or Thousand Years dressing?
lol! That brought back memories. Gotta’ admit, I loved having Pistol and Tank Weapon clasps on my Expert badge.
One notable Iron Cross recipient missing from this video, Surgeon-General William Manley VC CB. He was awarded the VC in 1864 during the Maori Wars in New Zealand, and Iron Cross (second class) in 1870 during the Franco-Prussian Wars. He also collected a bunch of other tinware from the Crimea to Egypt/Sudan and Afghanistan.
its pretty wild to see how much history can be behind something as simple as a medal, great vid!
Also can say good video as well and really gives insight on what those medals the Nazi and German army gave out.
It honestly is THE war medal, though. Military History Visualized did a very detailed video on the Iron Cross that visualize why it's such a highly regarded medal.
czcams.com/video/kBNZ8ZRrtF0/video.html
@@Julenissen117 That's really something and who knows what other topics JJ can cover next. Since there's a lot of choices now.
Omg I remember the looney toons cartoon I used to watch then with my grandma back when I was a kid I rember that specific episode being one of my favorites
Something that in today's environment you really can't get away with.
I've got a War Merit Cross with Swords. It's nice you brought it up as it is often overshadowed by the Iron Cross.
Let me guess... From grandpa in Argentina?
I got a War Merit Cross with Swords from my grandpa. He was in the Canadian army though... not the German one.
Also Seen in "Enemy at the Gates" Ed Harris wears one.
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Christmas present 15 years ago, for courage under fire.@@themaniomarian
Its crazy that Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte (King Charles John lll) was a French born Marshal of the Empire, a Crown Prince, a King, whos bloodline is still on the throne to this day, and a Generalissimo of Sweden got one of the higher awards of the Prussian Iron Cross. Idk i just love the fact that he has one of these medals that are pretty rare.
Goering was also awarded the Pour le Mérite during WW-I for personal valour. That beat all of the Iron Cross classes at the time. He also got the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross in WWII. Personally, I think the Pour le Mérite for bravery beats the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross awarded for leadership - despite them being in different wars
I'll have to do a video for the Pour le Mérite and thanks for mentioning it. I felt like if I introduced one more award during the video my eyes would have fully crossed over. German/Prussian awards are complicated.
Erwin Rommel also had a blue max
For the record: Hermann Goering had also a Zahringer Lion medal. Not seen in the Nuremberg series from 2000. Brian Cox played the fatty Reichsmarschall.
the modern german military did not abolish the iron cross as an award. it is just unused because the Iron Cross is a strictly "war time" awarard and since 1945 despite taking part in certain military operations like afghanistan, germany has not been "at war" offically with anyone
That's right. All I was saying was that Iron Crosses with the swastika can't be worn hence the reissue for WW2 vets with the oak-leaf cluster.
My goodness is that the Burgermeister Meisterburger?
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For the records, the 1957 "de-nazified" version was not awarded in the Bundeswehr. The respective law meant that veterans (be it retired or in service again) who had earned any Iron Cross variants during the war were now allowed to wear them, and most other respective awards (no Nazi party stuff though), in versions without Nazi symbols.
The Iron Cross was always an exclusive war time award and not just any war but a war deemed to threaten the existence of Prussia/Germany. It's activation was thus the government''s ultimate call to arms. For example the Iron Cross wasn't active in the war with Denmark or Austria in the 1860thies, these wars just weren't important enough.(Prussia/Germany always had other generic awards for valor.)
The Iron Cross is thus not just not an award for valor, but valor displayed when the nations fate is on the line.
This is what made it so unique and coveted. It's four iterations(which are separete awards) spans a mere 12 year. Talking about "reinstituting" the Iron Cross shows a complete lack of understanding of it's legacy.
The Balkenkreuz is just a stylized Iron Cross, not a seperate symbol, to mark military equipement. The non stylized version is used today as to distance it from the WWII use.
That the award snowballed at the end of the war wasn't some kind of inflation in value., when you face hopeless odds continuosuly acts of heroism will necessarily become routine.
My grandfather was awarded the Iron Cross first and second class while serving as an engineering officer on torpedo boats with the Kriegsmarine. When I asked him how he earned his awards he said it was automatically awarded when the ships captain was awarded the knights cross. If you previously were awarded the lower class it meant the first class was then awarded. I don’t know if my grandfather earned those decorations serving with the same captain though. BTW, not mentioned was an interim award between the Iron Cross first class and the Knights Cross, known as the Deutsches Kreuz. It was the swastika medal in a circular sunburst pattern worn on the right breast pocket you sometimes saw in this video.
My great-grandfather and his brother were both awarded the Knight's Cross Generalleutnant Ludwig Stamer and Fregattenkapitän Heinz Stamer. Im luck enough to still have about 90% of their war time items as when my dad pasted away my brothers and sister wanted nothing to do with that stuff
Ironically I've just ordered an Iron cross first class in used beautiful condition about an hour before seeing your excellent video.
Very iconic and collectable still after all these years.
Getting rare and expensive.
Another fun fact about the Iron Cross: it's very common in the biker sub-culture, because many biker clubs were founded by WWII veterans who brought Iron Crosses back as war trophies and used them to decorate their bikes or were wearing them. You see it also a lot in the hotrodded racing car scene and James Hetfield from Metallica has an ESP signature guitar model with it, because he's a motor bike & hotrodded car enthusiast.
That didn't become popular until the 1960s. Not WW2 veterans but their kids.
That current German award is NOT an Iron Cross, but it is a good one that looks nice. The Germans only ever awarded Iron Crosses during wartime, and obviously Germany has not been at war since 1945. American adventurism doesn't count as a war, and even Germany was kind of embarrassed to have their citizens killed in American wars and didn't want to be seen as glorifying illegal wars, so that's kind of why they didn't want to reinstate the Iron Cross and just made a new award instead. I am certain if Russia invaded Germany that they would bring it back in all its iron glory.
Magnificent research and presentation!!! You are a living encyclopedia!!! Tank´s Johnny!
The cat caught me off guard 😅
Pappy fait de la Resistance from 1983 = a good comedy.
If you know who The Night Witches were and what they did, you'll understand why any German soldier who shot down and or killed one got an iron cross.
Thanks, Johnny, for another great and very informative post. I also learned something I'd never been aware of: in "Inglorious Basterds" when I saw Landa's gold RK of the KVK, I thought, "Now why did they do THAT?" I never knew that such a version had been approved but never issued, just like the Diamonds to the DKiG. Thanks again!
It's interesting too that a similar symbol to the Iron Cross was worn by Prussian Landwehr Militia during the Napoleonic Wars. It was on their caps after many landwehr regiments were raised in 1813.
I still have my great-great-grandfather's iron cross ww-1, since southern Denmark came under German rule in the second Schleswig war, my great-great-grandfather fought on the German side while the rest of Denmark was neutral.
In "the Eagle had landed" Michael Caine was also named Steiner. He lost his Knight's Cross after an argument with SS officers.
A video on the Close Combat Clasp and the various Infantry and Panzer Assault badges in all their grades would be very interesting.
Very fascinating. That is by far my favorite metal. I think this is in the top 3 videos you’ve ever made Johnny. Congrats!!!
Well thank you kindly 🙏
Many, dare I say, thousands of war and other feature films, series and war documentaries in which this award appears. But the one in "Sahara" from 1995 when Tambul takes it from the disabled Luftwaffe hero is what I remember most in war film history. And by the way, Steiner 2 a.k.a. 1979's Breakthrough was a worthy sequel to Cross of Iron. Very good video quality John. Here your medal:🏅🧛♂💂♀💂♀💂♀💂♀💂♀💂♀
Sahara from 1995 was the remake M8!
Tambul killed the Knights Cross winner, was he Joachim Marseille the Luftwaffe ace?!
So good I'm watching again and liking and subscribed
In addition to David Niven, there are two other good (Allied) British who received the Iron Cross 2nd class. Namely Sergeant-Mayor Coward in "The Password Is Courage" 1962 and In the film "The Triple Cross" (1966) in which Von Rundstedt pins on Eddie Chapman (Christopher Plummer) the spy an Iron Cross 2nd class, strangely enough the 2nd class turns into this film after 2 minutes in a 1st class version. Hollywood magic, so to speak.
I've watched plenty of films and besides the cross always wondered what the distinction was for the different colored ribbons attached to the buttonhole on the tunics. This made it all very clear and easy to understand. Thanks!
Wow, never knew this! Thank you so much!
Enjoyable and informative video. Thank you!
Great overview
I thoroughly enjoyed this! Have you done a video on other insignia (sleeve and lapels) in the German armies? What's with the red thingy on the lapels? Again, thanks!
That was excellent. Great film selection, flow, editing, commentary.
If I had to make one change, I would have added the dialog of General Weidling when he shows Hitler's staff generals his Knights Cross.
"You see this?? I forbid you to use that tone of questioning on me!"
Another great vid, JJ.
If you haven’t already, could you maybe do a video on those batons that are often times seen in the hands of high-ranking military officers?
Always love seeing your videos Johnny. Even though sometimes I can’t really read the titles of the films in the upper left corner.
Really iconic decoration. And in fact, a really simple design
you should do some on famous US Decorations like the Purple Heart or Medal of Honor
And The Hell's Angels. Peter Fonda also had a Nazi iron cross hanging around his neck in the 1966 "Wild Angels" motorcycle gang film. But how was it possible that in "The Odessa File" (1974) Til Kiwe sells an Iron Cross that had nothing on it...? The antique store scene.
Actor Tile Kiwe was a Knight's Cross holder. He did Luftwaffe service in WW2.
Not entirely correct.. Knight Crosses of the iron cross, were also given to privates and NCOs
I stated this. Though I may not have been clear.
Thank you for video sir
I myself collect original iron cross examples, recently I’ve gotten into First World War “800” iron crosses that were made of silver, and I’ve gotta say this overview has it pretty spot on. I’ve got no corrections to add
In Lima, Peru, we have a private museum, "Museo de Oro" ("Museum of Gold"). There is an exhibition of four German Iron Crosses.
Very well done!
LOVE these educational videos, especially in awards.
I was taken back that women were awarded this honor, especially in this time period!
I wonder if you could do some segment on women in some theaters of war and their portrayal (fighting i mean)?
Do Victoria cross and Medal of Honour
I got me a vest with an iron cross embroidery on it. It's one of my most favorite symbols.
Thank you for this interresring Video 🎉
One of the things that is frustrating for me is they didnt put serial numbers on the award so I cannot figure out where the cross I possess originally was awarded to.
A video or two about the transition of Prussia into Germany could be in order because of this.
I have one thing to add: did animals also get Iron Crosses or something similar, like that cat from that Gramps Is In The Resistance clip (unless I'm getting its strange context wrong)?
Dang, all those small additions to the medal bring into mind the Kalidor Crescent from Star Wars, particularly the ones received in the X-Wing games.
That German general on WW2 Cherbourg putting up medals for his beleaguered men, according to Nivens, brings into mind certain RTS game upgrade systems.
You should do a video on the Churchill and its use.
For me one of the most pretty looking awards ever created
Nice explanation of the greatest war decoration of all time!
Victoria Cross?
Where is LEMMY Kilmister in the video?
He should be! And was in the original cut to be honest. The clips I had just poorly showed his Cross...
I love how this was just recorded on the spot and not in a studio
Wait
Wrong vid
would love to see more awards these are just as enteresting as weapons to me.
Years ago my dad collected 3 cases of german medals from wwi to cold war. We have a wwi iron cross and wwii iron crosses. They look brand new being always in cases.
No wonder 🤔, wish for Medal of Honor🏅 soon. 👀
Small correction at 0:30 : those aren't teutonic knights. The red and white ones are Knights Templar and the other ones Johaniter Knights iirc. The teutonic order wore a black cross on a white background. They also didn't fight in the Levant I believe.
I’d award you the Iron Cross, Johnny, if I were able
1:30 Me at every party in college.
I wonder why Monopoly has those tokens. When I was a kid the tokens were cast from lead, but I think those were replaced with something non-toxic in case a kid decides to eat his rather than move it to Boardwalk. There was an iron, a boot, a racing car, a Scottie dog, a thimble, a hat, and a battleship. Did those shapes have a significance?
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I think they missed doing one "Iron cross on iron cross with cross first class iron cross". But that's only my advice, idk
take a shot every time he says "Cross"
In all seriousness, great video!
I'm sure it sounds different in the native language and I have nothing but admiration for the men and women who have been awarded such a time-honoured piece of iconography. But in English, hearing something like "the knights cross of the royal cross bearers cross of the legion of the iron cross" sounds kinda funny in how often the word is used in such rapid succession.
Good video JJ and who knows what others you can do next maybe look into stuff Soviets built is another idea or do.
You are the best sir! Thank U
Nice video.
Heeerrreeee'sssss Johnny! Always love a history lesson
I would suggest for another subject a discussion of the book "Mein Kampf".
And you would have to include the silent, dialogue free film sequence from "The Enemy Below" where the Captain (Kurt Jergens) motions to Heine (Theo Bikel) to look at the Chief Engineer (Robert Boon) leafing through a copy of the book. The looks on their faces is priceless, and I think is a key element if the film, one of the first post-war movies to paint the Germans in a more favorable, anti Nazi, light.
MK is neither a weapon, nor a part of a uniform, nor a military commander, nor anything that is subject of this channel. MK is a bunch of brain farts by a certain dictator put into book shape for propaganda purposes.
And its not just a bit of tin! Its got a ribbon on it
Dear John, This has become a wonderfully interesting video. 100 Thumbs up from me!!! //////But Telly should have used an Iron Cross 1st class in "The Dirty Dozen and the deadly mission" in 1987 to close a bullet hole in an SS officer's costume during the opera scene. GREAT VIDEO THIS!
You can find that symbol in Templar church ruins
The most iconic award of military
I got my hands on a couple 2007 dater EK1's that were supposed to be issued, but Merkle decided against it.
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That was an interesting video for sure! Ever considered making one about the "Mutterkreuz" (Cross of Honour of the German Mother)? It's another medal many people haven't even heard of!
It's not a war medal. It was a medal awarded to women who had born a minimum of four children. Those children of course had to be "aryan". It was a nazi propaganda tool and should therefore discussed as little as possible.
You forgot the Gold Cross. A very meritous award. Generally given when someone won the Close Combat Clasp in Gold or for other combat deeds. This clasp was only issued 600 times, and held mote prestige among combat troops than any other award. As were the Assault Badge in Gold and Tank Destruction Badge. The Iron Cross 2nd class medal was only worn on the day of issue. After that the ribbon was worn, only.
Lastly, the Knights Cross went mainly to officers and air aces. 100 air victories got you one. "We may give our lives to our country, but we give our blood, to our brothers. "
I really enjoyed the Antony Hopkins movie the Bunker. It's free on CZcams for anyone to see it. The film Cross of Iron is another film that I really liked.
Well, I'm cross I hadn't seen this one yet. Catch ya for another one, Johnny. Take care.
"And I'll show you where the Iron Crosses grow" -Cpl Steiner
During Warsaw Uprising polish Home Army makes medals from Iron Crosses and polish 1zł pre-war coin: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_the_Warsaw_Uprising
Wow, Anthony Hopkins is the spitting image of Him.
You are right. Tony Hopkins is the spitting image of Tony Hopkins.
Hopkins did a Dolfy imitation.
5:21
Clip from All Quiet on the Western Front (1979)
Very cool video. I picked up an authentic. Iron cross from an antique mall not far from me. After watching this video im sure now its an Iron Cross 1st Class with the red and black ribbon. Quite eerie to see the swastika on it but its a part of history that we must not forget
If it has a red and black ribbon it’s a 2nd class. The 1st class had no ribbon.
2:12 I like how Prussian king first had the Russian order of St George and then only the Iron cross, even on a portrait.
Johnny, you could have said "Iron out of puns today."
Thanks for another fun and interesting video.
Damn! That would have been perfect.
"I will show you where the iron crosses grow "(Feldwebel Rolf Steiner).
I don’t mind decorations, but I ‘cross’ a line when they have similar names.
I started collecting militaria in 1971 when my uncle gave me a German helmet. Now I have 9 cased Iron crosses😮😅
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What is the red black and white ribbon worn on the right breast pocket of WWII soldiers denoting ? I have tried to look this up to no avail . I have asked this question on a few platforms with no response . If you don't know what I'm talking about , look at the character Kessler from BBC Secret Army .
I like who the us military units get there hands on the iron crosses as well and you can always see them in the movie fury and my favorite kelly's heroes as well on oddballs dog tags there is a iron cross on there and hes tank crews have them as well when there calling in a brige for their tanks