I am a christian myself and listen to a lot of black metal. I don't take satanic lyrics that seriously. I don't really like the term 'un-black metal' though. It's just like calling amon amarth viking metal. Genres shouldn't only be determined by their lyrics imo. One of my favorite christian black metal albums must be The Forsaken by Antestor. It actually has hellhammer on drums :D
I just find it ironic how Christianity have such a problem with heavy metal in general. I can guarantee that you could find a lot of unclean lyrics in pop too
They started hating metal because it used notes from every register, which was seen as the devil's music. Ever since, metal has been trying to challenge the church and vice versa.
I'm Christian and I enjoy metal music, although not black metal so much, if I'm honest. The people who say that they are Christian and take on a holier-than-though attitude really irritate me, because they are so set in their "rules" and how they think a Christian should act that they refuse to accept how someone like me can believe in Jesus and listen to Alice Cooper, who also happens to be Christian. We do exist. And I believe that everyone has the right to choose what they believe in, whether I agree or not. It's not my place to force my thoughts or beliefs on others. That's how I feel, anyway. :P
Lance Damask Yeah, I'm not sure if he still is or not. That's how I see it too. And then there's "God Is Dead?", which insinuates that they at least believe in a higher power.
Good video. I'm a Christian and I'm a metal fan (black metal is actually my favorite subgenre). There's no reason why Christianity and metal shouldn't get along. I've always believed any type of music is based on the characteristics of it's sound and not an ideology. I'm a bit surprised metal hasn't progressed to the point where it's no longer generally regarded as anti-Judeo-Christian.
no one anywhere should "get along" with people who actually believe in that stuff. I honestly dont think that most people who call themselves christian truely believe that shit in the bible in literally real, how could they. Its 2017 and we dont need myths to explain things anymore. Its an archaic remanent from the past whose lifespan ran out a long time ago.They actually believe in a virgin birth and that is not even the most whacked non nonsensical impossible thing they believe. Again, its 2017 and if you dont understand that sex is required to make a child then you should just check out, of life that is
Not all Christians belief everything in the Bible in a literal sense and thats not a new thing. Non-literal interpretations of different parts of scripture dates back to the earliest days of Christianity. Whereas Christian fundamentalism in its modern form only dates back to the late 19th century. (though there were problems in Christianity before that of course)
Even though I grew up Roman Catholic (nowadays not a Christian anymore) but what the hey, I love metal no matter what others say. I love any kind of metal such as heavy, thrash, death, black, speed, folk, etc. Regardless of what religious people (or any haters) say, metalheads should be able to enjoy their favorite music genre no matter what.
The Bible is filled with very dark, disturbing stories. I am not exactly part of this metal culture stuff, but one song I do immediately recall is "Creeping Death" by Metallica, telling that sick story from the PoV of the spirit that killed the first born of Egypt. There are videos and web sites talking about specific heavy dark stories. Abrahamic books all have dark side stories, contrary to the starry eyed love and light conduct of many followers. This coming from a former Christian.
Please take a look at this picture for a moment. www.google.gr/search?q=observable+universe&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj68OS5nr7NAhUMchQKHUVxB_oQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=COW7i47YDUQx8M%3A See these?These are some of the galaxies of the observable(!!) universe.Now please tell me again that a GOD will actually care if you, in one of these billion galaxies (which contain billion solar systems),listen to black metal...or any kind of metal.let alone that there is no god as far as we know...
Nah, God wouldn't mind, I say this as a Christian myself. The Bible says the only unforgivable sin is refusing to be forgiven for sin. Things like listening to metal, being gay, and other stuff that most churches are again are completely and totally okay, really. Heck with it, the Bible even has passages that say something like, "He came from the womb and became man." If you think about it, it's pretty much supporting abortion. My religion largely *doesn't even know its own damn Bible.*
+Pale Horse of the Apocalypse Very true, my friend. I am a Christian and a metalhead, and the thing that I don't understand is why Christianity and metal can't intertwine. After all, music was a creation by God, and just because someone uses that creation a little differently, that doesn't automatically make it satanic. As for Christians not knowing the Bible, that's because a lot of Christians refuse to read it for themselves and get their own understanding. They'd rather let some pastor (who's already gathered his own understanding and is far from perfect just like us) tell us what we should think it means, and that's not how it should be. But hey, to hell with reading and thinking, right?
Yeah I was raised in a Roman Catholic family most of which listen and our huge fans of metal and just rock in general which is pretty cool cause it gives you a different idea on things and stuff like that
That's funny because when I was in church one lovely Sunday, I thought how awesome it would be if there was Christian band that had the black metal style. I'm so glad that this exists :D
Kisha, what are your thougths on christians who go to metal ,or wiccan channels just to spew scripture& tel the peopel whogo to those chanels that they're going to hell ,because they don't beoieve the way that they do,or listen to the same music as they do? ( pat robertson is the one who is the most guilty of this action)
Skivys ohhhhh noooooo someone is making the spoopy music while liking jesus oh no i mean i get that the roots of black metal come from not liking christianity but it has obviously evolved past that
I'm a Christian, and black metal is one of my favorite subgenres. the thing is, people have the idea that it would be a hindrance to their faith. if they feel that way, then fine, they just shouldn't listen to the music. it's usually just the crazy baptists who value their own rules that aren't exactly biblical, just very, very conservative. I just hate getting ridiculed for it..
I like black metal too (its the only metal I like besides doom) and i'm a religious/ spiritual person. Those people who are saying this hindrance their faith or does them bad or does bad to other people are no christians but superstitious conservative people who don't get the core of their religion, what it really means to be christian. they've just been told to think that way and made no way for their own. Thats not what christianity or any monotheistic religion is about...
I like black metal too, but it's difficult for me to listen to the really Satanic stuff because my spirit is warring against the spirit of the music. Like, I have to be kind of detached to listen to it, so most of the time I just don't think it's worth it. "Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial"--you know?
@An individual Haha I don't think of it as a negative/positive dichotomy, more of a lies/truth thing. Some of the Christian metal I listen to is pretty dark, but it's truth.
@An individual I think of it like this - the Christian imaginative universe, in the end, has hope. But not every song encapsulates the entirety of the imaginative universe. The music is positive in that it has a positive effect on my spirit, ultimately pointing me towards truth, but it may not always be about positive things or be "uplifting" per say.
i dont really like christians that hate christians who listen to heavy metal. i mean seriously, you tell your brothers in faith that they are satanists just because they listen to music with dark and "evil" lyrics? (happended to me a few times, kinda disturbing) Great vid btw.
Most bm bands worship satan and being blasphemous on christianity. What is even the point of being christian if you enjoy something literally blasphemous? Seriously.
I think that white/unblack/Christian metal is a testament to how Christianity and metal are not opposed. I see the topic of faith theology and tradition as intrinsically tied together within the genre of metal, and metal offers a platform that embraces all view points for the sake of embodying the discussion. Metal heads might learn something from others if they stopped to take a moment to listen to the heart, as you have done with this video.
I don't really care for the distinction of 'white' metal, or 'unblack' metal. If it has the same depth and intensity of bands that don't believe in any religion, or are 'satanic', then why does it need yet another subgenre inside of a subgenre. I used to be a more practicing christian, now i'm more lax with it and don't have all those beliefs, and i still like the same bands. christian and non christian ones. i like it for the music. though honestly i don't dig bands that are real weirdly graphic with lyrics, like cannibal corpse or six feet under (and any other gross lyric'd band like that) cause it just isn't pleasing to me. but i like bands that are 'secular' and ones that are 'christian'. cause i think they sound good
I always thought white metal was explicitly Christian black metal, and unblack metal was just black metal with lyrics about anything besides typical black metal themes
yess. someone finally said it. too many people think "oh i gotta be a satanist to listen to metal" and its like 😐 no, just listen to it if you think it sounds good..
Exactly! For me, Skillet was actually the first metal band I ever listened to, and they're Christian. Then Demon Hunter came in and actually converted me to metal and opened me to all the metal bands I listen to now, both secular and Christian. I don't understand why it matters if a band is Christian or not. Who cares? It all sounds good, regardless. Just fucking listen to the music and enjoy it.
I'm a christian who really loves metal music, before christ (as it is my experience) came in to my life i used to listen to bands like: Slayer, Behemoth, Dimmu borgir, Dark funeral... well this list can go on a while :p but since that time christ came in to my life i always missed one thing very very much.. And that thing was METAL! and then i just started to find many many bands, and for those who might be actually interested in some very high quality good christian metal bands: A hill to die upon (black/death) Crimson Moonlight (Black) Slechtvalk (Black/viking/folk) Shadows of Paragon (black) Pantokrator (death) Antestor (Black) Broken Flesh (Brutal Death) Crimson Thorn (90's Death) Christian bands or not, these guys deserve some respect for making good music, its just too bad most metal head wont listen to it simply becouse it is christian. well anyway \,,\_ rock on \,,\_
martin ouwehand well actually listening is easy.. but for me, i want to own deicide/dark funeral records and that is pretty hard... do you own the cds/ vinyls of that bands as well?
The really funny thing about the whole Black Sabbath controversy was the fact that Geezer was a catholic. Master of Reality is pretty much the first Christian Metal album. Oops.
He may be, Ozzzy was and still is lifelong agnostic,. the band was NOT a Christian band, they did one overtlky pro-Christian song, that's it, they also did a overtly luciferian song NIB, so... they were just metal exploring various subject matter from various perspectives ...
That's true I reckon Miniike. And Ozzy used to sign-off with 'God-bless' at the end of many a live show. He is agnostic but most agnostics are open/respectful of others beliefs.
You know the black metal band Mayham started over 50 church burnings in Norway just from their actions and music alone. Crazy shit. I wouldn't visit any black metal concerts there. XD
@@darkmagician6192Actually, as a Christian Mayhem fan, their recent years AFTER their traumatic past have move past the whole Church ⛪️ Burning 🔥 thing. Varg even admitted he was never directly involved in Church ⛪️ Burnings 🔥. Varg also admits that ALL of those who committed those crimes were out of immaturity and some had the feeling of taking back the Pagan Lands.
That's true. All of Black Sabbath is, I believe. Iommi mentions it in his biography. After a gig, the band was apparently invited to an actual devil worshipping cult, so they were like "screw that", and started wearing crosses on stage. They've kept wearing the crosses ever since.
It makes me wonder if metal would have a more satanic image today if they had joined it, but then again people think they are Satan worshipers anyways even though they refused to join the cult.
I believe one of the band members of black Sabbath saw a "devil" and after that they became Christians and started wearing crosses and singing warnings against evil
Music is just the medium. The lyrics are what makes it. So to have this style music would be ok. And in the defense of fellow Christians, music is something God created.
I am a Christian who happens to like metal. And I agree people should be aloud to believe what they believe just because my life expiriace added up to this dose not mean anyone else's will... I like metal and that's how the cookie crumbles... What's really funny is I read that Elvis and Alice cooper both happen/d to be Christians yet people just threw them under that but proves. To show people will find a reason to hate anything
Dani, when Elvis became popular it was a case of the parents telling theier kids to be exactly like them( pop fans), the kids rebelling .... Vince Fernier( Alice Cooper's alter ego) is a christian ...he's the son of a minister Alice Cooper is a part that he plays on stage ( in his band)... the money grubbing " religious" leaders threw them under the bus.. taking themselves under the same bus as well
You already have my LIKE because of all the Maiden stuff around you hahahaha And these boots are stunning. In Spain we have our own brand called NewRock, Im sure you already know it ;);)
I just started watching your videos and they are great. I really like your personality and passion for the stuff you like. You are very articulate and I see you are very intelligent in which you discuss various subjects rationally with passion. I only wish I knew people like you in person who can discuss various topics and debate different ideas with the interest you have. Im an older guy and I have various likes in music now. I grew up listening to metal it’s always been special. I share your passion for movies also. Thanks for sharing your collections with us.
Great video. I can however 100 percent why people would think christian black metal is weird and why they would hate on it, as black metal was made souley for that reason. However they are forgetting one aspect and this would distort their hatred. This is the fact that in the end of all, black metal is the true expression of the soul. The music speaks the truth in the way. And for a christian to explain it's true beliefs in the music, more power to them. I would rather see the truth in music then some bullshit they don't believe in for shock value. This is from a satanic point of view. Let a christian be true and express itself honestly rather then a Satanist being full of shit and faking it just for shock value.
As a Christian who loves the sound of black metal I am happy we have an alternative that doesn't rub against our beliefs and convictions. Antestor is great!
My favourite one of these sort of bands was Mortification who came from here in Australia in the late 1980s, which I first listened to in 1994! Their best albums imo are 'Scrolls of the Megaloth' and 'Post Momentary Affliction'. Check them out! It is funny to hear the words lord and Noah etc in them but it does not take away from the metal! :)
Both great albums, post mometary diosplayed morts originally and technicality as a technical death metal band. Steve Rowe is one of the best bassists in metal.. But then after their first albums they went downhille..or at least they got a bit lighter. Crimson Thorn is my fave Christian death metal band personally
So now I'm wondering... what is your opinion of War Of Ages? I really like them, but I know a lot of metalheads don't like metalcore (I have seen a video you did on metalcore).
Nicko Mcbrain (Iron Maiden´s drummer) converted to christianism. When asked about it, he said he doesn´t try to convert his bandmates, prays on his own after the shows and there´s mutual respect inside the band. Simple, so simple.
I'm Christian and I love all kinds of metal death core, nu metal, thrash metal, death metal, funk metal, groove metal,Christian metal, and unblack, and Christianity and metal aren't enemies and not all metal is satanic I personally just like bands that spread faith, worship god, and are my favorite genres better there is no reason Christianity and metal can't go together
White metal. Unblack metal. Those terms are ridiculous and this video terminology is highly inaccurate and outdated. MUSIC genres should not be named for their LYRICS. Yes, Horde started it with their "Hellig Ugsvart" (Holy Unblack) album, but that's no reason to coin an all new music term. I'm speaking as a current Christian black metal musician with multiple albums under my belt. I can't STAND those terms and I'm not alone. People don't call blues music with positive lyrics "unblues" or "oranges" - why do that with black metal? Metal is punny enough so whether the black metal band talks about Satan, Jesus, space, trees, mythology, etc. its all BLACK METAL, not something separate!
OrationemOfficial I'm sorry but black metal is against Christians for the fact of being different in there on beliefs. I find it funny Christians always have to take music to there religion to accept it as good music most christian lyrics suck because your stuck in one direction.
Stuck in one direction could also be said of traditional black metal. Rebelling against religion is cool - but when the rebellion is against the rebels, the rebels don't like it. Isn't that ironic? I find it funny when people like you say Christians don't belong in black metal... but we're already here. We've been here for YEARS too, and we're staying. You or anyone else saying otherwise means NOTHING. I think it would be nice if one day, there would be an artistic appreciation in all facets of black metal. We're all on the same side regarding loving the sound of this genre you know...
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up, but what do you think of Deafheaven, or any "blackgaze" bands that add ethereal/ambient clean passages to black metal songs? I know they typically get a lot of shit from black metal purists.
Overtly Satanic imagery in metal really took root in the NWOBHM with Angelwitch, Witchfynde, Venom (of course), and Witchfinder General. Then it went from there with Mercyful Fate (of course), Slayer (early), and Sabbat (Japan). Euronymous thought it would be a good idea (big mistake) to take it to the next level with actual violence against Christian institutions. I myself am not Christian, but have been a fan of Christian power metal like Bloodgood, Sacred Warrior, and Kreyson, because they were actually really good. Also, King Diamond and Glenn Benton aren't really practicing satanists nowadays, but align more with classical humanism.
❤To me Metal is all about the Dark, Churchy, Christian nature of the music. Christians do listen to Metal, and to me it's wierd to bump into some secular metalhead, because I wonder if they can really appreciate the music fully without the understanding and spiritual life that is a part of being Christian.❤
I find it hilarious how all these people getting their panties in a twist "BLACK METUL IZ NOT 4 CHRISTIANZ" ...even though most of them listen to slayer...the lead singer of which is a catholic.
they're gonna be here? ahh. so many shows happening. behemoth is gonna be here this week too. Wish I was going. but I already have 2 shows in line for this summer and I thinks that's all I'm gonna be able to make it to
Christian metal is a perversion of the entire concept of heavy metal. Metal used to stand for being anti-establishment and against conformity. Being a christian is the epitome of conformity and accepting a system of controls that is based on the fear of eternal damnation. It makes no sense. I mean, I get the guys in those bands love making metal music and all that. It's just infusing the music with any kind of organized religion defeats one of the fundamental aspects of, not just metal but, rock music in general. That being the rebellion of the current system. Satanism and metal go well together because a true satanist worships themselves and feeds whatever desires they might have without the regard of society's rules or how society views them. Christianity, not so much.
well I think that Christianity is a systematic thing now. It is meant to be counter-cultural and anti-establishment as well, but it has become very clouded and perverted by the people who wanted to make it systematic. idk, but I don't think they are totally unaligned. they don't necessarily make sense together, but they are not incompatible.
@Mr Lowery: THANK you! Christian Metal is the biggest oxymoron of all time. People have the right to make whatever statements they want- and I will defend to the death anyones' right to say it. Better for me, cos now I know whom to avoid. I also have the right to avoid bands that promote/sing about things I find abhorrent. Like fear, guilt, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, racism, sex-negativity, one-twue-wayism and telling people how to live. BlackMetalWereWolf: You're a much nicer person than I; obvs not as desensitized. But I love and admire you for these vids. Much respect for your insight, intelligence, courage and down-to-earthedness. Yours in Metal, Mother Mayhem
you mean churches and especially catholics. Not christians. (We arethe OG anti-establishment :D) Some christians don't even think of the church as christian, because it fails to apply Jesus teachings to itself. The church became the Pharisee of our time.
@Jakub: That's a valid question. Yet Satanism isn't really organized. There's so many different sects and takes and flavors. Nothing's really been codified; and that's fine. It's also not a
Great video and opinions. I think when it comes down it, a lot of christians who make metal were listening to sabbath, maiden, slayer etc growing up instead of hating on metal like other christians. These guys were probably ostracized by their communities and families for listening to the music just like any metalhead. And nowadays they are ostracized by both religious people and anti-religious metalheads. The metal sub-culture is about being a worldwide community that consists of all kinds of outsiders regardless of their ethnicity or beliefs. Its just better when people are accepted and there is unity.
I'm Christian, and I REALLY like the atmosphere of black metal. I play it all the time, but for some songs I can't really bring myself to agree to, like DF's Hail Murder.
Hey BW! I enjoyed your video, good stuff. I am btw an ex-member of Antestor! I think the term un-black metal is weird...I have always called it black metal. Thanks for sharing your views man!
The thing is its been 4 years since I started listening to metal but I'm also Muslim I listen to metal bands such as Canibal Corpse, Nile,The Faceless, Decapitated, Born of Osiris, Death, Children of Bodom, Slayer, early Metallica etc Now Im just torn apart in the thought that should i start listening to black metal or not...........cuz it sounds fine but then again the lyrics sometimes avoid me from doing so So im confused wether should i or should I not????
Maclean, it's not only metal that Christians are agianst... they're also against hetahenism, paganism, wicca & witch craft... any religion that isn;t like theirs..
Im christian and from being raised in a christian house i think christianity on metal should exist, my dad always wanted me to listen to christian bands, of course i got away sometimes but he would always listen to what i was listening, and i always loved metal, that was a escape for me, when i got older and began to handle my own life i started to search and discover new bands and new styles outside the christian realm, and realize the awesomeness of the metal genre, those were the bands that kept me inside metal and the ones that made the metalhead that i am today.
Antestor is such a great band. If you're looking for decent "black/unblack/extreme/blackened/death" metal bands, I highly recommend, Antestor. (Black metal) Mortification (the old stuff from the early 90's. Self-titled, Scrolls of the Megiloth, Post-momentary Affliction). (Death Metal) Frosthardr. (Black Metal) Slechtvalk. (Blackened Death Metal) Horde. (Black Metal) Becoming the Archetype. (Modern Death Metal) Thanks for being rational about this subject. I find it hilarious that the only two genres of music that catagorize themselves by lyrical content are extreme metal music and christian music. One is anti-Jesus and the other is pro-Jesus. I wish music was defined by sound rather than message. Down-tuned, aggressive with low growls? You might be death metal! Buzzsaw guitar tone, 3/4 time, blast beats, and shrill vocals? You might be black metal! Easy.
I'm a Christian, and a big metalhead. I listen to all types of metal, with thrash, death, and black metal being my personal favorites. I don't give two shtis about Satanic, blasphemous, or anti-religious lyrics. The music is what fucking matters.
Have you ever listened to A Hill to Die Upon? They're a Christian blackened death metal band that gets compared a LOT to Behemoth. They do have some Christian inspired songs, but those lyrics are generally esoteric. A lot of their other songs come from literature and other mythologies. You might want to check out their song called Twin Heads of Vengeance. Super awesome stuff
In the 80's and 90's there was a church dedicated to the metal scene, It was called Sanctuary. There were others like the church of the New Order and Set Free Ministries that were active in that scene as well.
I think the reason this has specifically become a thing within black metal as a genre is because the earliest bands that were widely recognised as black metal were either openly pagan/satanic or otherwise anti-christian, particularly given that black metal became so synonymous with the black circle in norway after the vikernes trials and the media storm that followed it, so a lot of people define black metal not based on its sound but on it's lyrical content/ideals. To each his own though honestly, some people really care about their music having lyrical content that promotes their ideals and some people are happy to listen to anything that sounds good to their ear
The song Black Sabbath is about a nightmare that Geezer Butler had after seeing a 13 th or 14th century black magic book that Ozzy Osbourne brought to a rehearsal.
Reverorum Ib Malacht is an amazing Catholic 'black metal' band I would highly recommend to check out. Extremely atmospheric and raw and extremely haunting.
If you like the second album of gloryhammer, try the first one too :) it`s called "tales of the kingdom of five" or something like that. They made the whole album to tell a story about an evil wizard and a hero who tries to defeat him to save the country. Personaly I like the first one a little bit more, but the second album has some great songs as well, as you mentioned
Yeah, everyone is saying these are perversions of real litanies from the Christian orthodox. I'd like to believe the lyrics are actually all that, because it's quite cool. Ever since Batushka, I've been getting into the deeper, serious side of worship in black metal.
Ozzy is Christian, look up the lyrics to after forever but he wasn't afraid to use darker and doomier lyrics aswell I'm also a Christian metal listener and don't have any problem listening to many lyrics of bands like slayer, etc. Love your channel btw, congrats on all these new subs!
im a christian and i am a huge metal head, i wasnt going to comment anything untill you said something about war of ages. ive seen them in concert a few times and ive noticed that there is absoloutley no difference from a christian metal concert and a metal concert. ive been told by my teachers at my school(private school) and people at my church that im not allowed to listen to metal because it doesnt glorify God... but kids who listen to rap or pop or any shit like that dont get told that kinda stuff. imo the metal community is a family, wether you listen to Pirate metal, nu metal or black metal we all can agree that every genre is AWESOME!
Im a Christian, i attend church and everything, but im also a pretty devoted metalhead. I listen to lots of black metal and (brutal slam) death metal. Also, i listen to some grindcore and skater punk. Anyways, because of the gory shirts and black metal shirts with inverted pentagrams and what not, people at my church and school look down on me and act like they think im a satanist. Also, im very introverted which makes it even worse, and everyone seems like they think im a psychopath or a satanist. I hate how that happens. I just want to listen to music that reflects my feelings but stay a Christian, but it seems that my friends and family dont want that
The movie maimhaus really helped me with this though, as seeing the priest listening to black metal and saying that Jesus himself was an outcast. Made me feel like i can still be Christian and metalhead
Great video man. One thing I find obnoxious is when the Metal community assumes that Christian themed bands can't be dark or heavy sounding when the themes have nothing to do with sound. Zao and Extol for example are some of the darkest sounding bands I can think of and they happen to be Christian bands. Sometimes I feel like the Metal community needs to grow up. It seems like the Metal community attacks Christianity way more than Christianity attacks Metal but that's just what I've seen.
Remembering back to my 4 years of Christianity, there was a big thing within the Christian metal fans that "satanic", pagan, etc music had an evil spiritual element to it, and would cause one spiritual harm. That's why many Christian metal fans avoid non-Christian metal. I got out of it years ago, but at least I found Virgin Black back in those days.
I was always kinda confused because I've always though some of the hymns and other songs my church sings would make great power metal , but you mention it around some people and they bite your head off.
The old testament is pretty metal. I mean Abraham circumcised himself in the wilderness with a sharp rock.
Abraham's metal name? COCKCHOPPER
Knugen av Swärje 💀💀💀
Excuse me what
How fucking high was he to do that
@@bootboy710 could you provide a translation for what you 've just said ?
I am a christian myself and listen to a lot of black metal. I don't take satanic lyrics that seriously. I don't really like the term 'un-black metal' though. It's just like calling amon amarth viking metal. Genres shouldn't only be determined by their lyrics imo.
One of my favorite christian black metal albums must be The Forsaken by Antestor. It actually has hellhammer on drums :D
I was listening to that album yesterday. \m/
Thats right... I don't get how you can define a genre by lyrics :/ Metal people are like the only ones who categories that way make no sense.
Yess, exactly!!! The Forsaken is an awesome album, one of my favourites.
with viking themed lyrics,rutger
I was listening to Under the Sun off that album yesterday. Kickass
I just find it ironic how Christianity have such a problem with heavy metal in general. I can guarantee that you could find a lot of unclean lyrics in pop too
probably more in pop
You'll also find alot of shallow pride and arrogance, which were Jesus' least favorite things if you believe the New Testament
Depends on who writes the song...
When the "pop" song has adult themed lyrics in it... it won;t be played on KISS Fm at all
And Hip Hop
They started hating metal because it used notes from every register, which was seen as the devil's music. Ever since, metal has been trying to challenge the church and vice versa.
I'm Christian and I enjoy metal music, although not black metal so much, if I'm honest. The people who say that they are Christian and take on a holier-than-though attitude really irritate me, because they are so set in their "rules" and how they think a Christian should act that they refuse to accept how someone like me can believe in Jesus and listen to Alice Cooper, who also happens to be Christian. We do exist. And I believe that everyone has the right to choose what they believe in, whether I agree or not. It's not my place to force my thoughts or beliefs on others. That's how I feel, anyway. :P
Same here
Butterfly Gilded :-) Glad to see someone feels the same way!
Same here too
Ozzy Osborne was at least one point a born again Christian, as are most of their band, they sing WARNINGS not glorifying evil.
Lance Damask Yeah, I'm not sure if he still is or not. That's how I see it too. And then there's "God Is Dead?", which insinuates that they at least believe in a higher power.
Good video. I'm a Christian and I'm a metal fan (black metal is actually my favorite subgenre). There's no reason why Christianity and metal shouldn't get along. I've always believed any type of music is based on the characteristics of it's sound and not an ideology. I'm a bit surprised metal hasn't progressed to the point where it's no longer generally regarded as anti-Judeo-Christian.
only the Christian Church can declare that Bull shit
To say christians cannot love hard music is so stupid.
no one anywhere should "get along" with people who actually believe in that stuff. I honestly dont think that most people who call themselves christian truely believe that shit in the bible in literally real, how could they. Its 2017 and we dont need myths to explain things anymore. Its an archaic remanent from the past whose lifespan ran out a long time ago.They actually believe in a virgin birth and that is not even the most whacked non nonsensical impossible thing they believe. Again, its 2017 and if you dont understand that sex is required to make a child then you should just check out, of life that is
cant you just appreciate what he said? or is that just too hard for people?
Not all Christians belief everything in the Bible in a literal sense and thats not a new thing. Non-literal interpretations of different parts of scripture dates back to the earliest days of Christianity. Whereas Christian fundamentalism in its modern form only dates back to the late 19th century. (though there were problems in Christianity before that of course)
Even though I grew up Roman Catholic (nowadays not a Christian anymore) but what the hey, I love metal no matter what others say. I love any kind of metal such as heavy, thrash, death, black, speed, folk, etc. Regardless of what religious people (or any haters) say, metalheads should be able to enjoy their favorite music genre no matter what.
Amen
Agreed
The Bible is filled with very dark, disturbing stories. I am not exactly part of this metal culture stuff, but one song I do immediately recall is "Creeping Death" by Metallica, telling that sick story from the PoV of the spirit that killed the first born of Egypt. There are videos and web sites talking about specific heavy dark stories. Abrahamic books all have dark side stories, contrary to the starry eyed love and light conduct of many followers. This coming from a former Christian.
Creeping Death is one of my all time favorite Metallica songs. Totally badass.
Please take a look at this picture for a moment. www.google.gr/search?q=observable+universe&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj68OS5nr7NAhUMchQKHUVxB_oQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=COW7i47YDUQx8M%3A
See these?These are some of the galaxies of the observable(!!) universe.Now please tell me again that a GOD will actually care if you, in one of these billion galaxies (which contain billion solar systems),listen to black metal...or any kind of metal.let alone that there is no god as far as we know...
Nah, God wouldn't mind, I say this as a Christian myself. The Bible says the only unforgivable sin is refusing to be forgiven for sin. Things like listening to metal, being gay, and other stuff that most churches are again are completely and totally okay, really. Heck with it, the Bible even has passages that say something like, "He came from the womb and became man." If you think about it, it's pretty much supporting abortion. My religion largely *doesn't even know its own damn Bible.*
+Pale Horse of the Apocalypse Very true, my friend. I am a Christian and a metalhead, and the thing that I don't understand is why Christianity and metal can't intertwine. After all, music was a creation by God, and just because someone uses that creation a little differently, that doesn't automatically make it satanic. As for Christians not knowing the Bible, that's because a lot of Christians refuse to read it for themselves and get their own understanding. They'd rather let some pastor (who's already gathered his own understanding and is far from perfect just like us) tell us what we should think it means, and that's not how it should be. But hey, to hell with reading and thinking, right?
ChidoriSnake To hell with reading and thinking indeed.
My step uncle is Roman Catholic and his favorite band is Deicide.
Ralph Santolla is a catholic too.
So is Tom Araya
lol mustaine is too
Haha wow that's nice.
Yeah I was raised in a Roman Catholic family most of which listen and our huge fans of metal and just rock in general which is pretty cool cause it gives you a different idea on things and stuff like that
7:40 don't hate on it because it's Christian, hate on it because it's metalcore! (I'm joking obviously haha)
You shouldn't be joking about things like that. Metal core should be hated.
@@ForbiddenAudioPerversions No, 5 Finger Death Punch and Avenged Sevenfold should be hated on.
That's funny because when I was in church one lovely Sunday, I thought how awesome it would be if there was Christian band that had the black metal style. I'm so glad that this exists :D
Kisha, what are your thougths on christians who go to metal ,or wiccan channels just to spew scripture& tel the peopel whogo to those chanels that they're going to hell ,because they don't beoieve the way that they do,or listen to the same music as they do? ( pat robertson is the one who is the most guilty of this action)
@@KatyReminiec9399 Just ignore em. at the end of the day it will be us against God on the judgment day.
"Decide" lol.
I can't be the only one that caught that. That's besides the point. Great vid man. Definitely subbing.
I met Glan Banton and he is a troll
+something whateva XD.
Yeah what's up with that lol
dei-cide deity=god cide=killing such as in suicide,genocide, infanticide etc..... so deicide= killing of a deity or killing god/the death of god
I don't consider myself a metal head but I'm glad I'm hearing bands I recognize.
I'm a Christian who is starting a Black Metal band. XD
Lol thats fun have fun with the haters man.
@@CountDracul13 your a loser. Wasting your time to call someone a poser. You look like a poser yourself.
Calvin Baker you’re right cAlViN cause you kno all about me
@@CountDracul13 you aparently know enough to call someone a poser. Get outta here loser
Skivys ohhhhh noooooo someone is making the spoopy music while liking jesus oh no i mean i get that the roots of black metal come from not liking christianity but it has obviously evolved past that
I'm a Christian, and black metal is one of my favorite subgenres. the thing is, people have the idea that it would be a hindrance to their faith. if they feel that way, then fine, they just shouldn't listen to the music. it's usually just the crazy baptists who value their own rules that aren't exactly biblical, just very, very conservative. I just hate getting ridiculed for it..
I like black metal too (its the only metal I like besides doom) and i'm a religious/ spiritual person. Those people who are saying this hindrance their faith or does them bad or does bad to other people are no christians but superstitious conservative people who don't get the core of their religion, what it really means to be christian. they've just been told to think that way and made no way for their own. Thats not what christianity or any monotheistic religion is about...
I like black metal too, but it's difficult for me to listen to the really Satanic stuff because my spirit is warring against the spirit of the music. Like, I have to be kind of detached to listen to it, so most of the time I just don't think it's worth it. "Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial"--you know?
@An individual Haha I don't think of it as a negative/positive dichotomy, more of a lies/truth thing. Some of the Christian metal I listen to is pretty dark, but it's truth.
@An individual I think of it like this - the Christian imaginative universe, in the end, has hope. But not every song encapsulates the entirety of the imaginative universe. The music is positive in that it has a positive effect on my spirit, ultimately pointing me towards truth, but it may not always be about positive things or be "uplifting" per say.
@@anonymouswitness3835 Interesting perspective. I tend to agree!
i dont really like christians that hate christians who listen to heavy metal. i mean seriously, you tell your brothers in faith that they are satanists just because they listen to music with dark and "evil" lyrics? (happended to me a few times, kinda disturbing) Great vid btw.
Most bm bands worship satan and being blasphemous on christianity. What is even the point of being christian if you enjoy something literally blasphemous? Seriously.
I remember on a men’s retreat a Pastor told me “Death Metal glorifies death!” Pfft yeah right 🙄
I think that white/unblack/Christian metal is a testament to how Christianity and metal are not opposed. I see the topic of faith theology and tradition as intrinsically tied together within the genre of metal, and metal offers a platform that embraces all view points for the sake of embodying the discussion.
Metal heads might learn something from others if they stopped to take a moment to listen to the heart, as you have done with this video.
The bible is pretty dark. Especially Revelations.
Well sayed. 👍🏻
I'm so confused. White metal, unblack metal?! since when and what haha.
I was just as confused when I first looked into it haha
mmmmhh gud
I don't really care for the distinction of 'white' metal, or 'unblack' metal. If it has the same depth and intensity of bands that don't believe in any religion, or are 'satanic', then why does it need yet another subgenre inside of a subgenre. I used to be a more practicing christian, now i'm more lax with it and don't have all those beliefs, and i still like the same bands. christian and non christian ones. i like it for the music. though honestly i don't dig bands that are real weirdly graphic with lyrics, like cannibal corpse or six feet under (and any other gross lyric'd band like that) cause it just isn't pleasing to me. but i like bands that are 'secular' and ones that are 'christian'. cause i think they sound good
Christian Black metal I think
I always thought white metal was explicitly Christian black metal, and unblack metal was just black metal with lyrics about anything besides typical black metal themes
yess. someone finally said it. too many people think "oh i gotta be a satanist to listen to metal" and its like 😐 no, just listen to it if you think it sounds good..
Exactly! For me, Skillet was actually the first metal band I ever listened to, and they're Christian. Then Demon Hunter came in and actually converted me to metal and opened me to all the metal bands I listen to now, both secular and Christian. I don't understand why it matters if a band is Christian or not. Who cares? It all sounds good, regardless. Just fucking listen to the music and enjoy it.
+Zach Bartu Demon Hunter! !!
+Butterfly Gilded Ayyy! What's up, fam?
+Zach Bartu what's up lol Summer of Darkness is the business
+Fringey Moose But Skillet isn't a metal band though. They're more rock.
I'm a christian who really loves metal music, before christ (as it is my experience) came in to my life i used to listen to bands like: Slayer, Behemoth, Dimmu borgir, Dark funeral... well this list can go on a while :p
but since that time christ came in to my life i always missed one thing very very much.. And that thing was METAL!
and then i just started to find many many bands, and for those who might be actually interested in some very high quality good christian metal bands:
A hill to die upon (black/death)
Crimson Moonlight (Black)
Slechtvalk (Black/viking/folk)
Shadows of Paragon (black)
Pantokrator (death)
Antestor (Black)
Broken Flesh (Brutal Death)
Crimson Thorn (90's Death)
Christian bands or not, these guys deserve some respect for making good music, its just too bad most metal head wont listen to it simply becouse it is christian.
well anyway \,,\_ rock on \,,\_
martin ouwehand AHTDU and Crimson Moonlight are definitely the best ;)
SO do you not listen to bands that are neutral on the topic of religion ?
martin ouwehand well actually listening is easy.. but for me, i want to own deicide/dark funeral records and that is pretty hard... do you own the cds/ vinyls of that bands as well?
Give Divine Symphony a try.
Hello bro! I'm so happy to see another christian metalhead
The really funny thing about the whole Black Sabbath controversy was the fact that Geezer was a catholic. Master of Reality is pretty much the first Christian Metal album.
Oops.
He may be, Ozzzy was and still is lifelong agnostic,. the band was NOT a Christian band, they did one overtlky pro-Christian song, that's it, they also did a overtly luciferian song NIB, so... they were just metal exploring various subject matter from various perspectives ...
That's true I reckon Miniike. And Ozzy used to sign-off with 'God-bless' at the end of many a live show. He is agnostic but most agnostics are open/respectful of others beliefs.
Miniike wait, was geezer really Catholic?
@@Iconoclastithon Metal is about the BIG picture. Metal is real.
Minike, the song Black Sabbath is about a terrible nightmare that Geezer Butler had..
but,none of them are ,ior were Christians
I thought white metal was pantera.
HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA KING! 👑
As a Christian metal head, I thank you for being respective.
You know the black metal band Mayham started over 50 church burnings in Norway just from their actions and music alone. Crazy shit. I wouldn't visit any black metal concerts there. XD
@@darkmagician6192 pretty sure every metalhead knows that
@@darkmagician6192Actually, as a Christian Mayhem fan, their recent years AFTER their traumatic past have move past the whole Church ⛪️ Burning 🔥 thing. Varg even admitted he was never directly involved in Church ⛪️ Burnings 🔥. Varg also admits that ALL of those who committed those crimes were out of immaturity and some had the feeling of taking back the Pagan Lands.
I'm a Christian metalhead
I'm pretty sure that both ozzy himself and tony iommi are christians.
Well Iommi has always worn crucifixes and even has them adorning the neck of his guitar, so I wouldn't be surprised if he were.
That's true. All of Black Sabbath is, I believe. Iommi mentions it in his biography. After a gig, the band was apparently invited to an actual devil worshipping cult, so they were like "screw that", and started wearing crosses on stage. They've kept wearing the crosses ever since.
It makes me wonder if metal would have a more satanic image today if they had joined it, but then again people think they are Satan worshipers anyways even though they refused to join the cult.
I believe one of the band members of black Sabbath saw a "devil" and after that they became Christians and started wearing crosses and singing warnings against evil
ozzy Osbourne is agnostic he believes in God but he does not follow a organized religion
Music is just the medium. The lyrics are what makes it. So to have this style music would be ok. And in the defense of fellow Christians, music is something God created.
Those boots are pretty badass, next Check I'm gonna order a pair from new rock. When are you gonna show your vest?
I was going to show it off in this video but it completely skipped my mind! haha definitely next weeks video
+Blackmetal Werewolf (Blackmetalwerewolf) awesome man can't wait
I am a Christian who happens to like metal. And I agree people should be aloud to believe what they believe just because my life expiriace added up to this dose not mean anyone else's will... I like metal and that's how the cookie crumbles... What's really funny is I read that Elvis and Alice cooper both happen/d to be Christians yet people just threw them under that but proves. To show people will find a reason to hate anything
Dani, when Elvis became popular it was a case of the parents telling theier kids to be exactly like them( pop fans),
the kids rebelling ....
Vince Fernier( Alice Cooper's alter ego) is a christian ...he's the son of a minister
Alice Cooper is a part that he plays on stage ( in his band)...
the money grubbing " religious" leaders threw them under the bus.. taking themselves under the same bus as well
Those boots are so *HEAVY METAL* , the only use for them would be for the water temple
By the way, love the videos man, keep it up, instantly subbed after first video I watched.
You already have my LIKE because of all the Maiden stuff around you hahahaha And these boots are stunning. In Spain we have our own brand called NewRock, Im sure you already know it ;);)
have you heard of 'Metal Amino'? it's an app where you can talk about bands, genres, artists and many more!
I just got it, I love it
Dude i love your videos never stop making them \m/
I just started watching your videos and they are great. I really like your personality and passion for the stuff you like. You are very articulate and I see you are very intelligent in which you discuss various subjects rationally with passion. I only wish I knew people like you in person who can discuss various topics and debate different ideas with the interest you have. Im an older guy and I have various likes in music now. I grew up listening to metal it’s always been special. I share your passion for movies also. Thanks for sharing your collections with us.
Great video. I can however 100 percent why people would think christian black metal is weird and why they would hate on it, as black metal was made souley for that reason.
However they are forgetting one aspect and this would distort their hatred. This is the fact that in the end of all, black metal is the true expression of the soul. The music speaks the truth in the way. And for a christian to explain it's true beliefs in the music, more power to them. I would rather see the truth in music then some bullshit they don't believe in for shock value. This is from a satanic point of view.
Let a christian be true and express itself honestly rather then a Satanist being full of shit and faking it just for shock value.
Gloryhammer are amazing! Seeing them with Blind Guardian next month :')
+Dawn Mae Also, their keyboard player is Chris from Alestorm :)
You deserve more subscribers, you're topping the metal vlog channels, you should be noticed more
I thinkthat it's great that the links to some of your videos have been popping up on the wiccan channels.. It 's nice to see them on another channel
This dude is fuckin cool
So... A Satanist went and burned the cross of St. Peter into his head...
As a Christian who loves the sound of black metal I am happy we have an alternative that doesn't rub against our beliefs and convictions. Antestor is great!
Where can I get spike bands like that. Give me a link. I am out in Japan, so I can not get those here....I need a link to order. Thanks
My favourite one of these sort of bands was Mortification who came from here in Australia in the late 1980s, which I first listened to in 1994! Their best albums imo are 'Scrolls of the Megaloth' and 'Post Momentary Affliction'. Check them out! It is funny to hear the words lord and Noah etc in them but it does not take away from the metal! :)
Both great albums, post mometary diosplayed morts originally and technicality as a technical death metal band. Steve Rowe is one of the best bassists in metal..
But then after their first albums they went downhille..or at least they got a bit lighter. Crimson Thorn is my fave Christian death metal band personally
you said deicide like decide
And Antestor like Anscestor.
Soilwork ✌🏻
Tarsier Eyes are you talking about my picture?
+Payton Gruber no course I'm not I just randomly mentioned it for absolutely no reason😂
Of course I am 😍
I think that he was being sarcastic
So now I'm wondering... what is your opinion of War Of Ages? I really like them, but I know a lot of metalheads don't like metalcore (I have seen a video you did on metalcore).
Nicko Mcbrain (Iron Maiden´s drummer) converted to christianism. When asked about it, he said he doesn´t try to convert his bandmates, prays on his own after the shows and there´s mutual respect inside the band.
Simple, so simple.
I do extra job in church, don't tell them my favorite bands are Burzum and Deicide
OH MY GOD I LOVE WAR OF AGES!!! WOOHOO!!
Fringey Moose man i miss those days
This is a great, thought-provoking video. Thank you for the powerful insight
I'm Christian and I love all kinds of metal death core, nu metal, thrash metal, death metal, funk metal, groove metal,Christian metal, and unblack, and Christianity and metal aren't enemies and not all metal is satanic I personally just like bands that spread faith, worship god, and are my favorite genres better there is no reason Christianity and metal can't go together
White metal. Unblack metal. Those terms are ridiculous and this video terminology is highly inaccurate and outdated. MUSIC genres should not be named for their LYRICS. Yes, Horde started it with their "Hellig Ugsvart" (Holy Unblack) album, but that's no reason to coin an all new music term.
I'm speaking as a current Christian black metal musician with multiple albums under my belt. I can't STAND those terms and I'm not alone. People don't call blues music with positive lyrics "unblues" or "oranges" - why do that with black metal? Metal is punny enough so whether the black metal band talks about Satan, Jesus, space, trees, mythology, etc. its all BLACK METAL, not something separate!
I think even Christians who listen black metal don't like that term "unblack metal "
Your music kicks ass and I love black metal
Thank you!
OrationemOfficial I'm sorry but black metal is against Christians for the fact of being different in there on beliefs. I find it funny Christians always have to take music to there religion to accept it as good music most christian lyrics suck because your stuck in one direction.
Stuck in one direction could also be said of traditional black metal. Rebelling against religion is cool - but when the rebellion is against the rebels, the rebels don't like it. Isn't that ironic?
I find it funny when people like you say Christians don't belong in black metal... but we're already here. We've been here for YEARS too, and we're staying. You or anyone else saying otherwise means NOTHING.
I think it would be nice if one day, there would be an artistic appreciation in all facets of black metal. We're all on the same side regarding loving the sound of this genre you know...
Check out Antestor - The Forsaken Is Christian but you can't really tell.
Hellhammer of Mayhem did the session drums for that album.
I used to have their album "return of the black death"-= great album
gloryhammer is with christopher bowyes right? he is the vocalist/keytar player for alestorm
Did he say “Decide”?
"Decide"? Its DEICIDE, "God Killer"
It's the way many people say it.
Pablo Nino Nathaniel Stoop Many people are wrong.
I'd translate it as 'the act of killing a god', but yeah.
I've got the same amon amarth shirt except mine has sleeves
he got the shirt with sleeves and cuts them off himself. You can do it too if you want
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up, but what do you think of
Deafheaven, or any "blackgaze" bands that add ethereal/ambient clean
passages to black metal songs? I know they typically get a lot of shit from black metal purists.
Overtly Satanic imagery in metal really took root in the NWOBHM with Angelwitch, Witchfynde, Venom (of course), and Witchfinder General. Then it went from there with Mercyful Fate (of course), Slayer (early), and Sabbat (Japan). Euronymous thought it would be a good idea (big mistake) to take it to the next level with actual violence against Christian institutions. I myself am not Christian, but have been a fan of Christian power metal like Bloodgood, Sacred Warrior, and Kreyson, because they were actually really good. Also, King Diamond and Glenn Benton aren't really practicing satanists nowadays, but align more with classical humanism.
❤To me Metal is all about the Dark, Churchy, Christian nature of the music. Christians do listen to Metal, and to me it's wierd to bump into some secular metalhead, because I wonder if they can really appreciate the music fully without the understanding and spiritual life that is a part of being Christian.❤
I find it hilarious how all these people getting their panties in a twist "BLACK METUL IZ NOT 4 CHRISTIANZ"
...even though most of them listen to slayer...the lead singer of which is a catholic.
how are those cool things called you wear on your arm woth those studs?
I got to ask. Have you ever listened to Batushka?
i don't think they're even an eastern orthodox believer...seemed like a blasphemy undertone on it...
I have a question for you, based off the amon amarth shirt, will you be going to see amon amarth in Toronto?
Yes I will
+Blackmetal Werewolf (Blackmetalwerewolf) cool dude maybe I'll see you there \m/
they're gonna be here? ahh. so many shows happening. behemoth is gonna be here this week too. Wish I was going. but I already have 2 shows in line for this summer and I thinks that's all I'm gonna be able to make it to
You should check out Coven's Black Sabbath album. Also, didn't Mayhem's drummer play for Antestor?
Christian metal is a perversion of the entire concept of heavy metal. Metal used to stand for being anti-establishment and against conformity. Being a christian is the epitome of conformity and accepting a system of controls that is based on the fear of eternal damnation. It makes no sense. I mean, I get the guys in those bands love making metal music and all that. It's just infusing the music with any kind of organized religion defeats one of the fundamental aspects of, not just metal but, rock music in general. That being the rebellion of the current system. Satanism and metal go well together because a true satanist worships themselves and feeds whatever desires they might have without the regard of society's rules or how society views them. Christianity, not so much.
well I think that Christianity is a systematic thing now. It is meant to be counter-cultural and anti-establishment as well, but it has become very clouded and perverted by the people who wanted to make it systematic. idk, but I don't think they are totally unaligned. they don't necessarily make sense together, but they are not incompatible.
@Mr Lowery: THANK you! Christian Metal is the biggest oxymoron of all time.
People have the right to make whatever statements they want- and I will defend to the death anyones' right to say it. Better for me, cos now I know whom to avoid.
I also have the right to avoid bands that promote/sing about things I find abhorrent. Like fear, guilt, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, racism, sex-negativity, one-twue-wayism and telling people how to live.
BlackMetalWereWolf: You're a much nicer person than I; obvs not as desensitized. But I love and admire you for these vids. Much respect for your insight, intelligence, courage and down-to-earthedness.
Yours in Metal,
Mother Mayhem
you mean churches and especially catholics. Not christians. (We arethe OG anti-establishment :D)
Some christians don't even think of the church as christian, because it fails to apply Jesus teachings to itself. The church became the Pharisee of our time.
'infusing metal with any kind of organized religion' Isn't satanism an organized religion?
@Jakub: That's a valid question.
Yet Satanism isn't really organized. There's so many different sects and takes and flavors. Nothing's really been codified; and that's fine. It's also not a
Great video and opinions. I think when it comes down it, a lot of christians who make metal were listening to sabbath, maiden, slayer etc growing up instead of hating on metal like other christians. These guys were probably ostracized by their communities and families for listening to the music just like any metalhead. And nowadays they are ostracized by both religious people and anti-religious metalheads.
The metal sub-culture is about being a worldwide community that consists of all kinds of outsiders regardless of their ethnicity or beliefs. Its just better when people are accepted and there is unity.
I'm Christian, and I REALLY like the atmosphere of black metal. I play it all the time, but for some songs I can't really bring myself to agree to, like DF's Hail Murder.
were did you get your gaunlets from
Hey BW! I enjoyed your video, good stuff. I am btw an ex-member of Antestor! I think the term un-black metal is weird...I have always called it black metal. Thanks for sharing your views man!
The thing is its been 4 years since I started listening to metal but I'm also Muslim
I listen to metal bands such as Canibal Corpse, Nile,The Faceless, Decapitated, Born of Osiris, Death, Children of Bodom, Slayer, early Metallica etc
Now Im just torn apart in the thought that should i start listening to black metal or not...........cuz it sounds fine but then again the lyrics sometimes avoid me from doing so
So im confused wether should i or should I not????
I just love your passion!
The intro wolf noise is from warcraft 3
Maclean, it's not only metal that Christians are agianst...
they're also against hetahenism, paganism, wicca & witch craft...
any religion that isn;t like theirs..
Im christian and from being raised in a christian house i think christianity on metal should exist, my dad always wanted me to listen to christian bands, of course i got away sometimes but he would always listen to what i was listening, and i always loved metal, that was a escape for me, when i got older and began to handle my own life i started to search and discover new bands and new styles outside the christian realm, and realize the awesomeness of the metal genre, those were the bands that kept me inside metal and the ones that made the metalhead that i am today.
Antestor is such a great band. If you're looking for decent "black/unblack/extreme/blackened/death" metal bands, I highly recommend,
Antestor. (Black metal)
Mortification (the old stuff from the early 90's. Self-titled, Scrolls of the Megiloth, Post-momentary Affliction). (Death Metal)
Frosthardr. (Black Metal)
Slechtvalk. (Blackened Death Metal)
Horde. (Black Metal)
Becoming the Archetype. (Modern Death Metal)
Thanks for being rational about this subject. I find it hilarious that the only two genres of music that catagorize themselves by lyrical content are extreme metal music and christian music. One is anti-Jesus and the other is pro-Jesus. I wish music was defined by sound rather than message. Down-tuned, aggressive with low growls? You might be death metal! Buzzsaw guitar tone, 3/4 time, blast beats, and shrill vocals? You might be black metal! Easy.
Dude, I recommend Christaggedon too, fun fact, Jan Axel Blomberg aka Hellhammer played drums for “The Forksaken” album.
Hey dude, have you heard the album Primordial from Shadow of Intent???
Really Brutal Shit
I'm a Christian, and a big metalhead. I listen to all types of metal, with thrash, death, and black metal being my personal favorites. I don't give two shtis about Satanic, blasphemous, or anti-religious lyrics. The music is what fucking matters.
Have you ever listened to A Hill to Die Upon? They're a Christian blackened death metal band that gets compared a LOT to Behemoth. They do have some Christian inspired songs, but those lyrics are generally esoteric. A lot of their other songs come from literature and other mythologies. You might want to check out their song called Twin Heads of Vengeance. Super awesome stuff
In the 80's and 90's there was a church dedicated to the metal scene, It was called Sanctuary. There were others like the church of the New Order and Set Free Ministries that were active in that scene as well.
Isn't the song Black Sabbath about a horrible nightmare that Geezer butler had one night ?
Love the vids, but its pronounced Deicide (Dee-ih-side). Anyway, cool to see the subscriber count growing more and more.
I think the reason this has specifically become a thing within black metal as a genre is because the earliest bands that were widely recognised as black metal were either openly pagan/satanic or otherwise anti-christian, particularly given that black metal became so synonymous with the black circle in norway after the vikernes trials and the media storm that followed it, so a lot of people define black metal not based on its sound but on it's lyrical content/ideals. To each his own though honestly, some people really care about their music having lyrical content that promotes their ideals and some people are happy to listen to anything that sounds good to their ear
The song Black Sabbath is about a nightmare that Geezer Butler had after seeing a 13 th or 14th century black magic book that Ozzy Osbourne brought to a rehearsal.
Reverorum Ib Malacht is an amazing Catholic 'black metal' band I would highly recommend to check out. Extremely atmospheric and raw and extremely haunting.
If you like the second album of gloryhammer, try the first one too :) it`s called "tales of the kingdom of five" or something like that. They made the whole album to tell a story about an evil wizard and a hero who tries to defeat him to save the country. Personaly I like the first one a little bit more, but the second album has some great songs as well, as you mentioned
love your attitude; I wish more people thought that way. I am a Christian who loves Immortal, ABSU, among a bunch of others, I love unblack metal..
Keith Holm you ain't christian if you still listen to Burzum.
how often does this guy do album warnings?
wow dude your sub count is blowing up,almost 2k a day
Have you listened to Batushka or any "orthodox black metal" band, Blackmetal Werewolf?
Isn't Batushka more like blasphemic orthodox?
+King DOOB They made a music video to Yekteniya 1 if I'm not mistaken, and it's quite blasphemous actually
Yeah, everyone is saying these are perversions of real litanies from the Christian orthodox. I'd like to believe the lyrics are actually all that, because it's quite cool. Ever since Batushka, I've been getting into the deeper, serious side of worship in black metal.
Orthodox in this sense means orthodox Satanism not orthodox Christian!
Lance Damask
Yes, I believe that's correct in the black metal sense.
Unblack Metal by essence is Black Metal.
Ozzy is Christian, look up the lyrics to after forever but he wasn't afraid to use darker and doomier lyrics aswell I'm also a Christian metal listener and don't have any problem listening to many lyrics of bands like slayer, etc. Love your channel btw, congrats on all these new subs!
I randomly followe you on Instagram and didn't know you made youtube videos, haha. Nice!
I'm a Christian who loves metal, both Christian and secular. I appreciate the fact that you're open minded. :-)
Technically, Black Metal is not Secular
im a christian and i am a huge metal head, i wasnt going to comment anything untill you said something about war of ages. ive seen them in concert a few times and ive noticed that there is absoloutley no difference from a christian metal concert and a metal concert. ive been told by my teachers at my school(private school) and people at my church that im not allowed to listen to metal because it doesnt glorify God... but kids who listen to rap or pop or any shit like that dont get told that kinda stuff. imo the metal community is a family, wether you listen to Pirate metal, nu metal or black metal we all can agree that every genre is AWESOME!
Ps thanks for the album suggestion sounds Right up my ally
Im a Christian, i attend church and everything, but im also a pretty devoted metalhead. I listen to lots of black metal and (brutal slam) death metal. Also, i listen to some grindcore and skater punk. Anyways, because of the gory shirts and black metal shirts with inverted pentagrams and what not, people at my church and school look down on me and act like they think im a satanist. Also, im very introverted which makes it even worse, and everyone seems like they think im a psychopath or a satanist. I hate how that happens. I just want to listen to music that reflects my feelings but stay a Christian, but it seems that my friends and family dont want that
The movie maimhaus really helped me with this though, as seeing the priest listening to black metal and saying that Jesus himself was an outcast. Made me feel like i can still be Christian and metalhead
Where'd you buy those dope-ass bracers?
Great video man. One thing I find obnoxious is when the Metal community assumes that Christian themed bands can't be dark or heavy sounding when the themes have nothing to do with sound. Zao and Extol for example are some of the darkest sounding bands I can think of and they happen to be Christian bands. Sometimes I feel like the Metal community needs to grow up. It seems like the Metal community attacks Christianity way more than Christianity attacks Metal but that's just what I've seen.
MAclean, how about a video about Paganism ( of all tradtions ) in metal?
Remembering back to my 4 years of Christianity, there was a big thing within the Christian metal fans that "satanic", pagan, etc music had an evil spiritual element to it, and would cause one spiritual harm. That's why many Christian metal fans avoid non-Christian metal. I got out of it years ago, but at least I found Virgin Black back in those days.
I was always kinda confused because I've always though some of the hymns and other songs my church sings would make great power metal , but you mention it around some people and they bite your head off.
Nice video man