I am so glad you made this video to start this conversation. One of my biggest problems with the Creepshow 4K release was the packaging. I was hugely let down by the fact that they didn’t do a hard release like they did with the Blu-ray with a booklet. it was a huge bummer. I’ll admit it, I’m firstly a film fan- but that doesn’t mean I want the film in a lesser than kind of packaging, when I know they are capable of more. They’d get more money from me for sure if they stepped it up
I found out the other day that they don't call themselves "Scream Factory" anymore. They had a new logo that read "Scream Studios" on the Killer Klowns 4k blu ray which Shout Studios created ZERO extra features for. As fans we support a companies, and help them grow. Sadly, it seems that all companies seem to care about is growth which for Shout would mean being more than just a distributer of content from other studios. Seems like their wish is to not be a distributer, but to produce their own films like Lions Gates, and Miramax that came before them. That's great for them, but bad for the fans. They will put less quality and effort into each release as they have their sights / resources set on something bigger. There was a time back in the 90s when SONY was only known for producing the best quality tvs on the market. Now SONY is a major film studio, and they own Columbia Tristar.
I found that Creepshow hardbox at FYE brand new few months back for 20 bucks but all other scream factory stuff on blu ray was 25 to 35 and barely any had slips even with them.
I really appreciate your content. I think you might be the only content creator that is in the upper tiers with this community to highlight older DVD releases. It’s really surprising how much went into those older releases as far as packaging and special features back in the day. For example, of the lord of the rings trilogy. Those were amazing releases with insane features. Also, I recently grabbed the African Queen (Bogart) it’s a commemorative edition VHS (DVD was also released but it was so cool and I’m just going to slip my Kino Blu-ray into the set) It’s huge and contains large quality prints, as well as a hardcover book and softcover screen adaptation anyways… Keep up the great work Dude!! Loving it!
Dude, Fatboys "Fatboys" was the very first album on Vinyl I had as a kid. Such a classic...Every track rules. Love that Tshirt!!! Hard box releases are awesome. That Creepshow release was one of my favorites too.
The rigid hard box slips are my favorites out of any type. I hate the standard slip covers for how easy they are to damage, and how annoying it is to try and get the movie out of them sometimes. These hard boxes solve both issues by being sturdy and easy to get the title out. They also look and feel premium. I really wish these were done more.
Speaking of that Elvira haunted Hills Blu-ray that actually brings up a pretty interesting story on how I got my copy for a steal. I was on eBay scrolling around and I find a listing for it and it seemed pretty normal except the price tag that the seller listed was $2. I went ahead and ordered it as fast as I could fully expecting it to be canceled and you know receiving a message from the seller telling me that they messed up the price and that they’re going to adjust it and cancel the order. so I waited for that to happen. a few days went by and I still never received a cancellation order so I figured it was just gonna take a couple more days. A few days later, I got a message that the movie had shipped, but I still didn’t believe that it was actually happening. It has to be a mistake. There’s no way I’m actually gonna get this for two dollars. I get a notification that a box arrived at my house. I take it inside and open it and sure enough there it was Elvira’s haunted Hills for $2. I open the case and the disc was there. It’s probably one of the best deals I’ve ever gotten.
Scream Factory just feels like it's all about cutting corners now. Maximum profit for minimum effort. Don't get me wrong, I love many of their movies, it just seems like the effort is gone from them.
I collect a lot of Arrow stuff and really dig the hard box releases. Oddly enough though the first hard box release I owned was the Nightbreed 3-disc set from SF back in 2014/15. Shame they didn't stick with it. Especially for their Collector's series. All we get now is the choice between a couple of slips or a steelbook. Also, why is the newly commissioned artwork for the CE releases still relegated to their respective blu-rays and not carried over to the 4K editions? Maybe a licensing issue with the artists? I dunno.
Scream factory wants to go the Cheap route and not keep up with their competitors. Their competitors are blowing them away and they don’t care. Not only that Shout has some of the worst customer service I have ever dealt with! Had issues with an order and they didn’t care and didn’t resolve the issue!
I've been saying this for years, Scream has been dethrowned in the States because of Arrow! Always worth paying a lil extra from across the pond for the awesome PHYSICAL release. Great Vid, as always.
While I enjoy both slip covers and hard shell boxes , if a hard shell is available I’d go with that . I like the Scream Factory versions so much as they seem to be smaller and not as bulky as other boutique companies hard shell cases. My best guess as to why we aren’t seeing them as much now (from scream factory ) is perhaps the cost . Even a bulk manufacturing of the slip cover has got to be cheaper than a bulk order of hard shells . I didn’t care as much on the Halloween films as much as I only had interest in the first 4 films . And I thought 1-6 were individual and 7 and on were in a box set . I saw most of the later films and felt they got just too silly with the story rationales . I won’t even bother to see the Blumhouse films - cash in stuff only with no concern for quality . (The fact they did an exorcist sequel ……. Rubbish. I’ll give you that part 3 is pretty strong but you had William Peter Blatty there as writer / director .) The hard shell works particularly well for special films and franchises , so I wish we’d see more of them , but costs may be too much of a factor
I kind of want the Haunted Hills release, but I didnt like the movie. I LOVED Mistress Of The Dark, but this one really didnt hold my interest. The art is amazing on it though!
This has actually been on my mind lately, especially when I look around my room and see my Halloween collection!! Such a shame they didn’t do it for the Child’s Play series!! 😢
I loved those hardbox releases. The question we must ask ourselves, can we truely consider Scream Factory a boutique label now days? They have really slipped and traded quality for even more profit than they were already pocketing.
I was wondering the same thing a few months ago with what happen to the scream factory thick slipcases their were used for halloween 1 to 8 & Hunted hills. They were so much better & more sturdy than the thin slipcovers that get wear & tear to easily. I Thought they were taking a few steps foward to give us back a quality product with the releases of Halloween 1 to 8 & hunted hills compared to how lackluster a Year and half of releases were before that but boy I was wrong. It now just feels like if you want a fraction of that old scream quality than you have to pay more to get it which sucks. They really should've give killer klowns from outer space & Chucky 1 to 7 the thick slipcase treatment along with giving killer klowns more new special features instead of non. Scream skipping out on new special features or lacking any special features in general is another thing about their quality that gone down the drain bedsides qc.
2 weeks later, I have never been to or heard of Orbit DVD but Elvira is now sold out there. I will look elsewhere. I have Halloween 1 and 2 in the hard case and now there's a couple more titles, including Elvira, in going to look for in this format
I think Scream Factory is taking production costs of the hard cases into consideration and now they want to make you pay extra for the different box art. Scream Factory is obviously trying to nickle and dime they customers now. So instead of a nice hard box, your only option is to pay extra for different slip cases.
I'm normally the type to throw out slip covers. Even if there's reversible art. I just switch the case to the art I want and call it a day. But when I got my SF 4k of Halloween and saw and felt that nice and sturdy slip box? I fell in love. New favorite type of packaging for movies. I was so glad I managed to get the rest and they all look and feel just as good. The only Arrow release I have with a slip is the Conan Chronicles on blu ray. It's a good quality box. But I wish they used art based on the first movie's poster. I managed to pre-order Arrow's Friday The 13th '09 4K. That new art on the box with the original poster art on the case is gonna look sick. (I had to pre-order from Amazon. No one else would ship it to Canada. So fingers crossed it works out).
It will never stop being Hilarious that they actually thought LMFAO Halloween 6- Halloween Resurrection are worth $90 bucks LMFAO. That shit should have been $60 tops
I wish they did that hard shell style for the child’s play franchise
Foreal tho
hard boxes are better than slips
What they should've done is use the hard boxes for their 4K line, missed opportunity.
Collectors would pay a couple bucks more for a hard case. The Halloween hard boxes are great.
They did do a few other hard boxes. Nightbreed was a big one and more recently the jfk 4k but that was technically under the shout brand.
I am so glad you made this video to start this conversation. One of my biggest problems with the Creepshow 4K release was the packaging. I was hugely let down by the fact that they didn’t do a hard release like they did with the Blu-ray with a booklet. it was a huge bummer. I’ll admit it, I’m firstly a film fan- but that doesn’t mean I want the film in a lesser than kind of packaging, when I know they are capable of more. They’d get more money from me for sure if they stepped it up
I found out the other day that they don't call themselves "Scream Factory" anymore. They had a new logo that read "Scream Studios" on the Killer Klowns 4k blu ray which Shout Studios created ZERO extra features for. As fans we support a companies, and help them grow. Sadly, it seems that all companies seem to care about is growth which for Shout would mean being more than just a distributer of content from other studios. Seems like their wish is to not be a distributer, but to produce their own films like Lions Gates, and Miramax that came before them. That's great for them, but bad for the fans. They will put less quality and effort into each release as they have their sights / resources set on something bigger. There was a time back in the 90s when SONY was only known for producing the best quality tvs on the market. Now SONY is a major film studio, and they own Columbia Tristar.
People don’t like Halloween art??? I LOVE the art they did for those releases.
I rather have a hard box slip case. Than get stuff I don't want like art cards, posters, etc...
This video NEEDED to be made. Thanks for speaking up.
I found that Creepshow hardbox at FYE brand new few months back for 20 bucks but all other scream factory stuff on blu ray was 25 to 35 and barely any had slips even with them.
I really appreciate your content. I think you might be the only content creator that is in the upper tiers with this community to highlight older DVD releases. It’s really surprising how much went into those older releases as far as packaging and special features back in the day. For example, of the lord of the rings trilogy. Those were amazing releases with insane features.
Also, I recently grabbed the African Queen (Bogart) it’s a commemorative edition VHS (DVD was also released but it was so cool and I’m just going to slip my Kino Blu-ray into the set) It’s huge and contains large quality prints, as well as a hardcover book and softcover screen adaptation
anyways…
Keep up the great work Dude!! Loving it!
Dude, Fatboys "Fatboys" was the very first album on Vinyl I had as a kid. Such a classic...Every track rules. Love that Tshirt!!!
Hard box releases are awesome. That Creepshow release was one of my favorites too.
The rigid hard box slips are my favorites out of any type. I hate the standard slip covers for how easy they are to damage, and how annoying it is to try and get the movie out of them sometimes. These hard boxes solve both issues by being sturdy and easy to get the title out. They also look and feel premium. I really wish these were done more.
Speaking of that Elvira haunted Hills Blu-ray that actually brings up a pretty interesting story on how I got my copy for a steal.
I was on eBay scrolling around and I find a listing for it and it seemed pretty normal except the price tag that the seller listed was $2.
I went ahead and ordered it as fast as I could fully expecting it to be canceled and you know receiving a message from the seller telling me that they messed up the price and that they’re going to adjust it and cancel the order.
so I waited for that to happen. a few days went by and I still never received a cancellation order so I figured it was just gonna take a couple more days.
A few days later, I got a message that the movie had shipped, but I still didn’t believe that it was actually happening. It has to be a mistake. There’s no way I’m actually gonna get this for two dollars.
I get a notification that a box arrived at my house. I take it inside and open it and sure enough there it was Elvira’s haunted Hills for $2. I open the case and the disc was there. It’s probably one of the best deals I’ve ever gotten.
Thanks for mentioning the info of why Halloween 6-8 weren't included in a potential Halloween boxset. Damn Paramount.
Scream Factory just feels like it's all about cutting corners now. Maximum profit for minimum effort. Don't get me wrong, I love many of their movies, it just seems like the effort is gone from them.
No mant in 4K and no original audio for return of the living dead says it all!
I collect a lot of Arrow stuff and really dig the hard box releases. Oddly enough though the first hard box release I owned was the Nightbreed 3-disc set from SF back in 2014/15. Shame they didn't stick with it. Especially for their Collector's series. All we get now is the choice between a couple of slips or a steelbook. Also, why is the newly commissioned artwork for the CE releases still relegated to their respective blu-rays and not carried over to the 4K editions? Maybe a licensing issue with the artists? I dunno.
The funny thing is, months ago, Walmart had the Halloween 4K, but in a regular cardboard slipcase, not the hard one.
Scream factory wants to go the Cheap route and not keep up with their competitors. Their competitors are blowing them away and they don’t care. Not only that Shout has some of the worst customer service I have ever dealt with! Had issues with an order and they didn’t care and didn’t resolve the issue!
I've been saying this for years, Scream has been dethrowned in the States because of Arrow! Always worth paying a lil extra from across the pond for the awesome PHYSICAL release. Great Vid, as always.
They term it a slipbox. And I think they lost money on that form of packaging. You are right, though. They are def preferred. By just about everyone.
Yeah, I really figured they would’ve put those with the Child’s Play 4K ‘s too.
It's a shame they stopped!
Very cool
Just got my Bill & Ted's Most Triumphant Trilogy which is indeed a hard box. The Ring trilogy from earlier this year was also a hard box.
Because a bean counter told them that cost cutting was the way to go. Cheap, flimsy slipcovers that easily damage is the way to go!
Screen Factory did the same for the Critters box set as well !
I’m losing my mind trying to find the hard case of Halloween 4. I have the others but 4 with the slip and it’s killing me lol
While I enjoy both slip covers and hard shell boxes , if a hard shell is available I’d go with that . I like the Scream Factory versions so much as they seem to be smaller and not as bulky as other boutique companies hard shell cases.
My best guess as to why we aren’t seeing them as much now (from scream factory ) is perhaps the cost . Even a bulk manufacturing of the slip cover has got to be cheaper than a bulk order of hard shells .
I didn’t care as much on the Halloween films as much as I only had interest in the first 4 films . And I thought 1-6 were individual and 7 and on were in a box set . I saw most of the later films and felt they got just too silly with the story rationales . I won’t even bother to see the Blumhouse films - cash in stuff only with no concern for quality . (The fact they did an exorcist sequel ……. Rubbish. I’ll give you that part 3 is pretty strong but you had William Peter Blatty there as writer / director .)
The hard shell works particularly well for special films and franchises , so I wish we’d see more of them , but costs may be too much of a factor
I kind of want the Haunted Hills release, but I didnt like the movie. I LOVED Mistress Of The Dark, but this one really didnt hold my interest. The art is amazing on it though!
Have you seen the Scooby-Doo movies with Elvira?
I love the rigid boxes my first one was Night breed which was numbered I believe it might be there first hard box bluray
This has actually been on my mind lately, especially when I look around my room and see my Halloween collection!! Such a shame they didn’t do it for the Child’s Play series!! 😢
I got the Hellraiser tetralogy 4K box set from Arrow and that didn't have a hard shell box just a Cheesy paper thin one
I loved those hardbox releases. The question we must ask ourselves, can we truely consider Scream Factory a boutique label now days? They have really slipped and traded quality for even more profit than they were already pocketing.
Did you that, not so long ago, Scooby Doo had a movie with her?
Definitely because of the money. Would be nice if they still cared enough for these cases
I guess it al comes down to; saving money . those are very expensive things to make. the design and packaging
I was wondering the same thing a few months ago with what happen to the scream factory thick slipcases their were used for halloween 1 to 8 & Hunted hills. They were so much better & more sturdy than the thin slipcovers that get wear & tear to easily. I Thought they were taking a few steps foward to give us back a quality product with the releases of Halloween 1 to 8 & hunted hills compared to how lackluster a Year and half of releases were before that but boy I was wrong. It now just feels like if you want a fraction of that old scream quality than you have to pay more to get it which sucks. They really should've give killer klowns from outer space & Chucky 1 to 7 the thick slipcase treatment along with giving killer klowns more new special features instead of non. Scream skipping out on new special features or lacking any special features in general is another thing about their quality that gone down the drain bedsides qc.
I know they were awesome so much better than Slipcovers
2 weeks later, I have never been to or heard of Orbit DVD but Elvira is now sold out there. I will look elsewhere.
I have Halloween 1 and 2 in the hard case and now there's a couple more titles, including Elvira, in going to look for in this format
The recent Ring boxset was pretty hard.
I think Scream Factory is taking production costs of the hard cases into consideration and now they want to make you pay extra for the different box art. Scream Factory is obviously trying to nickle and dime they customers now. So instead of a nice hard box, your only option is to pay extra for different slip cases.
Its all about the maximizing their profits. They are following the Kino lorber method of business.
My favourite type of box is the Criterion thick plastic like the one you get with the night of the living dead 4k.
C I hate to say it but I think it all boils down to money the evil green.
I really Vinegar syndrome hard case slips
They could make more money just with slipcase standard editions. It's sad but it's all about corporate greed. CHH.
The artwork on the Halloween boxset is terrible. Looks like a child drew Michael
I'm normally the type to throw out slip covers. Even if there's reversible art. I just switch the case to the art I want and call it a day.
But when I got my SF 4k of Halloween and saw and felt that nice and sturdy slip box? I fell in love. New favorite type of packaging for movies. I was so glad I managed to get the rest and they all look and feel just as good.
The only Arrow release I have with a slip is the Conan Chronicles on blu ray. It's a good quality box. But I wish they used art based on the first movie's poster. I managed to pre-order Arrow's Friday The 13th '09 4K. That new art on the box with the original poster art on the case is gonna look sick. (I had to pre-order from Amazon. No one else would ship it to Canada. So fingers crossed it works out).
Scream Factory has been hot mess ever since Cliff left.
It will never stop being Hilarious that they actually thought LMFAO Halloween 6- Halloween Resurrection are worth $90 bucks LMFAO. That shit should have been $60 tops
They honestly haven’t changed at all since he left. This is the same quality they have been since they released the Halloween boxset 😅