Pokemon Gen 4 Abilities Tier List THE PREMIUM! POISON HEAL, SON.

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  • Pokemon Diamond and Pearl added 47 new abilties to the roster! Magic Guard! Poison Heal! Slow Start! One of those is not like the other. How did the Sinnoh region abilties shape the Pokemon franchise moving forward? Let's finding out together with us in this tier list!
    TIERING CRITERIA
    - Both ingame and competitive usefulness will be considered
    -Abilities are considered for their performance across all generations, not just Gen 4!
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    Timestamps!
    00:00 Intro and Tiering Criteria
    03:53 A
    14:22 B
    15:21 D
    19:01 F
    24:27 G
    25:59 H
    31:30 I
    34:46 K
    36:47 Magic Guard
    45:01 N
    48:14 POISON HEAL, SON
    50:08 Q
    51:20 R
    53:46 Scrappy to Skill Link
    57:46 Slow Start to Solar Power
    1:04:27 Stall to Super Luck
    1:09:19 T
    1:13:52 U
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Komentáře • 443

  • @Ari.1460
    @Ari.1460 Před 2 lety +211

    fun fact, when urshifu (the dark type one) was running around in OU originally, people were sometimes running scarf anger point krookodile which always activated if switched in on a wicked blow (which always crits) and now you are staring down a +6 atk +1 speed krook which was quite terrifying

    • @TheAuron32
      @TheAuron32 Před 2 lety +21

      that thing is scary as is... giving it a belly drum and +1 speed boost, yeah i wouldnt be sleeping if i saw that happen to me.

    • @windwaker0rules
      @windwaker0rules Před 2 lety +17

      Unless Urshifu used cc then you were down a Pokemon

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +120

      Wow imagine having Intimidate and Moxie and still choosing Anger Point
      Crookodile good pokemon!!! He deserved to be in the Gen 5 thumbnail for sure.

    • @zememerr2329
      @zememerr2329 Před 2 lety +20

      In the hypothetical off change that Krookodile got Wicked Blow itself, it could snowball pretty easily with a Choice Scarf and Moxie
      Source: Radical Red gave like 4 Dark types Wicked Blow for some reason

    • @yeaok4195
      @yeaok4195 Před 2 lety +3

      i think that was just a showdown youtube, im pretty high on ladder and I never saw that lmao

  • @flareonguy7922
    @flareonguy7922 Před 2 lety +87

    I remember hearing somewhere that they were planning on giving Regigigas clear body as a hidden ability in gen 5 but decided against it last minute. Imagine how good regi would have been in that timeline. In our timeline GameFreak wants him to suffer, they even gave him slow start in Legends (a game with NO OTHER ABILITIES).

    • @conansglasses2645
      @conansglasses2645 Před 2 lety +39

      Making sure that regigigas is always trash , has GOT to be some sort of inside joke none of us are aware of

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 Před 2 lety +9

      even pokemon's pet moba treats Regigigigigigigas better: in both of the limited-time quick (read: minigame) modes Regigigas effectivly stars in, fucker is not waiting to sla your ass into orbit. often via brutal backhand, if boss rush is any indication

    • @superiorserperior5937
      @superiorserperior5937 Před 2 lety

      Doesn't it work differently there?
      From what I've heard, it doesn't actually halve stats first in Legends, meaning you get a sharp increase to attack and speed instead of just the norm after 5 turns.
      Could be entirely wrong on this though.

    • @conansglasses2645
      @conansglasses2645 Před 2 lety +1

      @@superiorserperior5937 no its the opposite , for the first 5 " action turns " your attack and speed are cut in half

    • @superiorserperior5937
      @superiorserperior5937 Před 2 lety

      @@conansglasses2645 that's how it is normally, I'm aware of that.
      Is it the same in Legends: Arceus?
      Edit: Reread the comment, wow that sucks. Can't even catch a break in a game with no abilities.

  • @yorozuyawithoddjobs6590
    @yorozuyawithoddjobs6590 Před 2 lety +27

    Gliscor to every stall Pokemon using Toxic: YOU CAN’T HURT ME JACK!
    Uses Toxic anyway: WHAT DID I JUST SAY?

  • @frostbitex23
    @frostbitex23 Před rokem +18

    Fun Fact - Tinted Lens Venomoth, believe it or not was a terror in the lower tiers of competitive. If I recall correctly, it got banned on many occasions. The tier that it tends to terrorize is the RU Tier.
    Quiver Dance and Tinted Lens is a scary combo.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem +4

      imagine not having to rely on tinted lens to have usable stab :SmolBug:

  • @bigdaddysquare7278
    @bigdaddysquare7278 Před 2 lety +7

    Darkrai is tied with Arceops and Gliscor for my favorite pokemon. This leads to me having a burning hatred for Smeargle because it ended up getting Dark Void absolutely castrated.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +3

      Darkrai is still pretty good, right? Good stats!!!!
      ...But rip dark void

  • @VioletLunaChan
    @VioletLunaChan Před 2 lety +33

    I REALLY think if Gamefreak wants Volttackle to be the strongest physical electric move, they should buff Volttackle to 150 base damage and Wild Charge to 120. Like the fuck are they afraid of? As if Lightball-Pikachu will suddenly break the Meta with his abysmal stats.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +20

      No idea why everyone except Pikachu is stuck with type-shifted Take Down of all things

    • @conansglasses2645
      @conansglasses2645 Před 2 lety +15

      @@ImportedCheese gamefreak wants Pikachu to actually be relevant in-game SO BAAAD

    • @VioletLunaChan
      @VioletLunaChan Před 2 lety +2

      @@conansglasses2645 You're saying that, but his stats are GOD AWFUL.

    • @iBenjamin1000
      @iBenjamin1000 Před 2 lety +7

      120 bp wild charge and pikachu can have 200 bp volt tackle for all anyone cares!

    • @VioletLunaChan
      @VioletLunaChan Před 2 lety +7

      @@iBenjamin1000 I legit wanna know if Gamefreak actually thinks Pikachu would be OP if they buffed Volttackle. Like even if Volttackle would instantly fucking kill you, it would be a 1 for 1 trade at best, because Pikachu will fucking die from the recoil and even if not, you have the disadvantage of having a weak-ass Pikachu.

  • @nlb137
    @nlb137 Před 2 lety +36

    Walrein actually nearly got banned a few times during permanent weather with Ice Body. In part *because* Ice is so bad, with perma hail it's likely the entire enemy team will be taking hail damage, and you can sub/protect stall while they die. Doesn't matter how bad your defensive typing is if they never get the chance to do more than blow up a sub.
    To illustrate how bad Normalize is, it was once used in competitive... on a skill swap gimmick team whose entire purpose was to give the enemy team Normalize (locking them in with Shadow Tag) so that they couldn't touch your ghost types.

    • @CowardEdd
      @CowardEdd Před 2 lety +3

      I remember Stallrein causing me some issues way back in early Gen 4. Same with that TormentTran set which was popular for a bit.

    • @reubenmiller2142
      @reubenmiller2142 Před 2 lety +1

      Wolfey did a video on something similar to the normalize strat

    • @inkubus6192
      @inkubus6192 Před rokem +2

      Well, to give Normalize the credit it’s due, it does help make Skitty the most broken partner in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Před rokem +2

      @@reubenmiller2142it is literally wolfey who pulled the strat off in an actual competitive game

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 11 měsíci +3

      Normalize. Bad. Abilities.

  • @VioletLunaChan
    @VioletLunaChan Před 2 lety +6

    LMFAO HOLY SHIT, alright the "Ice Beam me, I can take it!"-bit with the Gliscor-Grave actually caught me off guard.

  • @CowardEdd
    @CowardEdd Před 2 lety +27

    42:14 I think the saddest thing I've ever seen in competitive was facing a guy when laddering who used GyaraVire in Gen 4. Without fail, he'd switch in, get the boost, then proceed to attempt to 6HKO my Rotom-H. He did this at least six times.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +6

      6HKO............sounds like Electivire gaming to me

  • @GoldGuard
    @GoldGuard Před 2 lety +31

    Mold Breaker also negates Magic Bounce so status moves can hit Pokémon like Espeon and Xatu.
    It’s especially great for Stealth Rock Excadrill.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem +14

      Mold makers HATE him

    • @shimogane2474
      @shimogane2474 Před 7 měsíci +3

      we all never expected mold breaker hawlucha to use Defog against fucking goldengo

  • @smergthedargon8974
    @smergthedargon8974 Před 2 lety +41

    "Scrappy" is such a weird name for an ability that lets you hit ghosts regardless of move type - should've been called "Exorcist".

    • @Glory2Snowstar
      @Glory2Snowstar Před 2 lety +2

      If there aren’t any copyright issues they should 100% have named it “Sixth Sense”

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +25

      sCRAPPY name?!

    • @nickchabot1302
      @nickchabot1302 Před 2 lety +11

      I see it like a scrappy doo pun. It’s probably not, but it helps me sleep at night.

    • @smergthedargon8974
      @smergthedargon8974 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ImportedCheese Yes

    • @piranhalettuce
      @piranhalettuce Před 2 lety

      @GamerZone Speaking Exorcist Miltank

  • @zememerr2329
    @zememerr2329 Před 2 lety +22

    Adaptability is an ability I always wonder about personally. The Pokémon who get it make sense; Mega Lucario is probably a highly intelligent creature and is a mixed attacker, they can adapt to situations easily. All of the water types are probably able to live in various bodies of water or can adapt to predators easily? But the STAB bonus it provides never made sense for an ability called “Adaptability.” I guess Porygon-Z’s explanation is about as good as we’ll get for this one, I find it odd it’s even called Adaptability in Japan, too

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 11 měsíci +3

      it's probably due to Porygon being the first to adapt

  • @blepomorph419
    @blepomorph419 Před 2 lety +12

    Your videos are such an enjoyable blend between educational and light-hearted memes. This is my second time watching this video. Keep up the good work!

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 Před 2 lety +10

    If a physical Electric-type had Adaptability, they could pretend they have good STAB.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +6

      Gamefreak pls let us use volt tackle so the cope can end

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime Před 2 lety +6

      @@ImportedCheese What does Gamefreak even gain from keeping Volt Tackle exclusive to Pikachu?
      Its not like anyone uses Pikachu in competitive with volt tackle given its y'kow.. Pikachu, it sucks
      And it's not like anyone is gonna use it in game cuz its an egg move
      Maybe its all just an internal joke by gamefreak to just make physical electric types suck ass

  • @SaphirYoshi
    @SaphirYoshi Před 2 lety +5

    The filter actually makes the font on the cards more readable :'D

  • @0001aardvark
    @0001aardvark Před 2 lety +22

    Honey Gather is actually really good in the Pokemon Mystery Universe MMO. You can get a ton of honey per dungeon and honeys are how you grind for shinies in that game.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 11 měsíci

      Mystery Dungeon multi-hit moves I also remember being nuts

    • @0001aardvark
      @0001aardvark Před 10 měsíci

      @@ImportedCheese Nah nah this is Pokemon Mystery Universe, it’s a fangame for PMD that has different mechanics and an ECONOMY™️
      Honey is an item that spawns more Pokemon when you use it and these Pokemon have a higher chance of being shiny. You can buy it in Stores and get it as drops but if you got the real GRINDSET you take Honey Gather Teddiursa to get a Honey dumped in your inventory every few floors on top of all that.

  • @JFarenci
    @JFarenci Před 2 lety +10

    Looks like cheese never had to deal with gen 4 sub protect Stall-rein.. Sub, Protect, Ice Body for 64 turns of pain. Truly riveting gameplay to be remembered.
    Never did much of anything after gen 4, but back then it was a shoddy battle staple.

  • @sephikong8323
    @sephikong8323 Před 2 lety +11

    I think Tinted Lense definitely belongs on the "Mon defining" category. This ability is so strong that if you see it on a Pokemon, you are very much tempted to run it. Two examples : Yanmega and Sigilyph, they both have this ability and other really good ability, Yanmega has Speed Boost (mad OP) and Sigilyph has Wonder Skin (nice ability, too bad it's so outclassed by the other two) and Magic Guard, and both frequently run Specs Tinted Lense (for Yanmega it's most of the time, for Sigilyph I don't have the data but I'd say that both Specs Tinted Lense and Magic Guard offensive Calm Mind are probably equal), which shows just how strong it is, the ability to ignore resists is so bonkers
    And I'd say the same for Unburden, this ability is definitely mon defining, if you have unburden, there's a very big chance you're going to pick it and adapt your strategy to be able to use it, because a +2 speed that can't be copied by Ditto is insanely good and it's possibly the best sweeping ability in the game, heck, both Tinted Lense and Unburden tend to be ubiquitous in metagame that allow you to give mons other abilities, because they are abilities that actively try to remove counter plays and can quickly become unfair and very dangerous

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +4

      I could see a few abilities moving up, Very Useful got kinda crowded

  • @orange6259
    @orange6259 Před 2 lety +30

    There were so many emotions in this intro. 😭 when Gliscor said poison trauma I felt that! ☝️

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +23

      I'M MAKING THE MOTHER OF ALL TIER LISTS HERE, CAN'T FRET OVER EVERY PLACEMENT

  • @thekrampusclaus4148
    @thekrampusclaus4148 Před 2 lety +17

    I mean Walrein was an absolute monster in the lower tiers with ice body when permanent weather was a thing: I think it actually got snow warning banned in gen 5 RU because people were using Snover to set up hail to power the Stallrein set. Abomasnow was in gen 5 UU and stallrein reigned, this caused snow warning to get banned twice in gen 5 UU.

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 Před rokem +4

    Aniticipation on Swampert in gen 3 would have been mon defining tbh, no longer would you have to guess whether a zapdos is running HP grass or HP ice, or if a t-tar is running hp grass to hit you, and it would tell you if Celebi is running a grass move, it would also alert you to Jirachi using fire/grass as their attacks(which also would reveal it to be a Superachi), oh and also it would reveal HP grass on special salamence too which is massive as special Salamence is unwallable until you know its exact moveset

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem +2

      Good thing it got the mighty hidden ability....damp

  • @crenando288
    @crenando288 Před 2 lety +19

    This is a great video! The intro to these get better and better; I do have one critique of your explanation of Multitype; Arceus Normal is great but the other types are just as good if not better than normal (Ground, Water, Fairy to name the best) Arceus.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +5

      What about Arceus "Steel"?!

    • @crenando288
      @crenando288 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ImportedCheese not very good in Ubers www enjoyed the livestream btw

  • @Lilybun
    @Lilybun Před 2 lety +14

    I sorta feel like adaptability is mon defining because of crawdaunt but I guess some real awful mons get it too and its not enough to save em. The only ability I could see the crabbo want over adaptability is huge power tho, kinda puts into perspective how strong it is

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +9

      Adaptability good! Let's! Not branching out!

    • @thekrampusclaus4148
      @thekrampusclaus4148 Před 2 lety

      It got mega lucario banned I think

    • @spymander7492
      @spymander7492 Před 2 lety +3

      "I guess some real awful mons get it too and its not enough to save em"
      That's not really a good metric to measure it by. If Plusle got Poison Heal it would still be bad too.

    • @Lilybun
      @Lilybun Před 2 lety

      @@spymander7492 i agree but thats what the list criteria appeared to be

  • @frappompi
    @frappompi Před 2 lety +6

    Your intros are fucking amazing and they keep getting better. Thanks for the delicious content.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you! the intros are the most important part!!

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice Před 2 lety +12

    Amazing intro.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +4

      How did you even find this lol

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice Před 2 lety +3

      @@ImportedCheese It my in my subscriptions. I found it there and watched the trailer.
      Did you not think I subscribed but also hit that bell?

  • @JacobMcBaggins
    @JacobMcBaggins Před 2 lety +3

    The No Guard name always makes me think the ability makes you ignore protect moves and the screens

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +1

      I think...Infiltrator lets you ignore screens?
      No way to bypass protect yet tho. Yes Guard!! :SlowScience:

    • @rowletgaming8014
      @rowletgaming8014 Před 2 lety

      @@ImportedCheese What about urshifu, it has unseen fist? (both forms, bypasses protect and other moves of that variety)

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Před 2 lety

      No Guard has a chance to bypass Protect/Detect in DP if the right conditions apply.

  • @austinmitchell2652
    @austinmitchell2652 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow, that's a substantial time difference from the live! I appreciate all your hard work on the editing, cheese-sensei

  • @ceciunni
    @ceciunni Před 2 lety +4

    i love these videos, they're so entertaining & love all the references too!

  • @thewanderers97
    @thewanderers97 Před 2 lety +12

    In gen 7 Arceus can use Z-crystals to change type instead of using plates

    • @marcoasturias8520
      @marcoasturias8520 Před rokem

      It's like the ability lost the sticky hold capability, or maybe doubled it, thought that doesn't work.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      butbut what about the power boost?!

  • @naw726
    @naw726 Před 2 lety +2

    Hearing youre from NYC makes so much sense to me about why you are so based. You literally feel like someone i couldve been in highschool with and I always appreciate your nuance on topics. As always fantastic video!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +2

      I might actually be a FAKE new yorker from a suburb of NYC but don't tell the other viewers that

    • @naw726
      @naw726 Před 2 lety

      @@ImportedCheese imposter cheese?!?! i wouldnt dare. You still have a bonus due to proximity you get the vibes

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 Před 2 lety +3

    It is at least kinda interesting they gave Sableye an ability that ignores speed and an ability that cripples speed.
    Not practical. But interesting.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +3

      Prankster actually great!!
      ...Enjoy your Keen Eye until Gen 5

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Před 2 lety

      Never understood the idea giving it Stall. Maybe they considered a Pokémon without a weakness too strong.

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 Před 2 lety +3

    time for an original comment: this ability color scheme activated my anger point

  • @bluebonnetdaniel8606
    @bluebonnetdaniel8606 Před 2 lety +3

    Your Ice Body analysis and slander of Walrein didn't take into account the time that Ice Body Walrein absolutely destroyed DPP UU. Look it up, it's a true story.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 11 měsíci

      can't trick me to look up filthy DaiPa gameplay

  • @Leet-iz2fz
    @Leet-iz2fz Před 2 lety +2

    that split-second Cheemkorita after the bit about Flower Gift at the beginning got me cackling

  • @IndellableHatesHandles
    @IndellableHatesHandles Před 2 lety +1

    "Hard-countered by Damp"
    You gotta watch out for those **counts on fingers** 0 Damp users that will ever faint you.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +2

      Hey, Swampert is ok and has the option to run damp!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Empostir
    @Empostir Před 2 lety +5

    Imported cheese you should try voicing Armstrong one day

  • @cadencenavigator958
    @cadencenavigator958 Před 2 lety +7

    I had a psychic type team for triples- yeah, I know, very niche. My opening set was Chimecho, Metagross, and Magic Guard Sigilyph with the flame orb, Cosmic Power, and Psycho Shift. Was it good? No. But it won a lot in the battle maison.

  • @KremBotop
    @KremBotop Před 2 lety +1

    Seriously, those Chad thumbnails are some of the funniest s**t that I've ever seen. Keep it up!

  • @coca-soula532
    @coca-soula532 Před 2 lety +3

    Love your channel I hope you reach 1 million someday

  • @DaikoruArtwin
    @DaikoruArtwin Před rokem +1

    A fancy strategy I liked doing in lower tiers is Tinted Lens + Z-Mirror Move Noctowl. Normally, Mirror Move is a bad move since very often, whatever move the opponent uses will be resisted by themselves. But with that combo, you get a free Swords Dance boost, then about double-up the power of their own move, and it's not resisted thanks to Tinted Lens! It actually makes Noctowl usable physically. Sigilyph also gets that combo, but since its normal set is good enough to land in higher tiers, playing on a higher tier makes this gimmick strategy harder to work when they already got bad base Attack.
    Also, Drapion can also use Sniper efficiently. Z-Acupressure boosts its crit ratio by 2 stages on top of the normal Acupressure boost, so together with Cross Poison and Night Slash, you get 100% crit ratio of 2.25x damage with two STAB moves that have almost perfect coverage. If you're lucky, you get an Attack boost for 4.5x damage total, or you get a speed boost to outspeed everything. It's probably the only Pokemon that can use Acupressure efficiently thanks to actually having the bulk and typing to set-up at least one turn, Sniper and good Crit moves to make use of the Focus Energy boost, and at least appreciating 5/7 of the possible boosts.

  • @iBenjamin1000
    @iBenjamin1000 Před 2 lety +2

    I just laughed so good at the proposed anger point strats. fling a berry at your partner. make them crit you. you're both damaged while your opponents have been smacking you around, and now you're just angry at how much time you've wasted

  • @conansglasses2645
    @conansglasses2645 Před 2 lety +2

    The thing with Motor Drive Electivire back in gen 4 , is that : even IF you got the boost , ok you're +1 speed on electivire ... and ? What you're gonna thunder punch me ? Ooh I'm so scared , what? You're gonna bulk up ? You still get 2hko'd by earthquake because unless you're facing off a garchomp +1 ice punch is never 2hkoing bulky hippowdon after leftovers

  • @windwaker0rules
    @windwaker0rules Před 2 lety +3

    You want a good thing about slow start, if you skill swap it to an opponent you effectively used charm and cotton spore at the same time

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +6

      But regigigas can't skill swap, so it will still take two turns! Sad!

  • @andreadonolato2222
    @andreadonolato2222 Před 2 lety +1

    Lmao "You were just like me" is accurate, both Scizor and Gliscor are chads immune to Toxic

  • @Kaspar502
    @Kaspar502 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The Stop and Frisk joke is still peak

  • @loulou3676
    @loulou3676 Před 2 lety +1

    This video actually made me realize I didn't understand how some abilities actually worked. I always thought Download simply boosted a random stat and Forewarn told you a random move

  • @whimsyy3199
    @whimsyy3199 Před 2 lety +3

    My favourite gimmick for Unburden was Power herb Sky Attack Acrobatics Hawlucha, just throwing out consistent strong flying attacks, with High Jump kick and a coverage move to deal with stuff that don’t mind bird tackles.

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Před 2 lety

      I wouldn't call 90% accuracy "consistent"

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime Před 2 lety

      @@enoyna1001 a nuke button that works 9/10 is consistent enough

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Před 2 lety

      @@An_Entire_Lime I'd agree with that

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      The seeds!!!

  • @josephallen3076
    @josephallen3076 Před měsícem

    Dry skin Toxicroak in competitive gen 5 actually slaps if they aren’t prepared. Swords dance and bullet punch. Along with drain punch and poison jab make it pretty hard to take down on a rain team with defensive investment

  • @maxmuller6791
    @maxmuller6791 Před rokem +1

    Fun fact. Frisk is called "Schnüffler" in german which means something "sniffler" or "to sniff out" 👀

  • @trashaccount3642
    @trashaccount3642 Před 2 lety +5

    ive always wondered how good flareon would be with an actual learnset. ik its speed is still completely terrible but that attack stat is pretty hot

    • @conansglasses2645
      @conansglasses2645 Před 2 lety +2

      Imagone of it had its spread from the Radical Red romhack , where its speed and sp.attack are switched giving it a base 95 speed

    • @vtmagno23
      @vtmagno23 Před 2 lety +1

      It would still suck, it would just suck less

    • @conansglasses2645
      @conansglasses2645 Před 2 lety

      @@vtmagno23 it would be a PU staple tho

    • @scoobiusmaximus9508
      @scoobiusmaximus9508 Před 2 lety

      It still has a pretty bad stat distribution. It's slow and very frail on the physical side, which is not a great combo. It can take special hits decently at least, but doesn't have the HP to do that well, and the 95 Special attack feels like a lot of stat points being wasted because it's a big chunk of Flareon's total but too insignificant to use compared to the Attack Stat now that it gets Flare Blitz.
      I just don't see why you would ever take it over a fire type with a better stat distribution currently. Darmanitan exists if you need a physical fire attacker, or Infernape or Blaziken or Incineroar if it's doubles. I guess a Guts boosted Flareon technically hits the hardest out of all of them with Flare Blitz, but not by enough to matter when it probably won't live long enough to do that in the first place.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      It could learn every move in the game and it would still probably be bad

  • @linkthepringlesman3951
    @linkthepringlesman3951 Před 2 lety +2

    Honestly, a bit confused about the “mon defining” rename. The criteria doesn’t seem to have actually changed, but the name has? This leaves aside some abilities that I would argue to be mon defining. Adaptability, for example. It turns Basculin from a forgettable Seaking knockoff to a forgettable Seaking knockoff that hits you REALLY hard.
    Also Stallrein was busted. People were running SNOVER just to enable it.

  • @frostbitex23
    @frostbitex23 Před 2 lety

    I know my ice pun was funny but adding the "HA!" made my ribs hurt from laughing so much. xD

  • @shoot4thestars176
    @shoot4thestars176 Před rokem

    ok that snorlax bit actually made me laugh, 10/10 edit

  • @dazedmoon8762
    @dazedmoon8762 Před 2 lety +1

    I love Importedcheeses' commentary videos because he's actually knowledgable about pokemon instead of the millions of noobs doing these commentaries who are like "oh Klutz is completely useless" but Importedcheese actually knows about the niche competitive uses for it. Fabulous stuff!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +4

      Do I know, or is it an illusion created by the power of chat and the PREMIUM edit?! You never see the mistakes!

    • @dazedmoon8762
      @dazedmoon8762 Před 2 lety

      @@ImportedCheese :O

  • @cobalt7248
    @cobalt7248 Před 2 lety

    The intro was absolute *gold*

  • @destinygalearies7382
    @destinygalearies7382 Před 11 dny

    So Tangled Feet basically works like Rock Lee when he gets drunk, the power of dizziness and unpredictability makes you a god at fighting

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 9 dny

      not sure I'd be able to describe any of the tangled feet pokes as..... good

  • @shimogane2474
    @shimogane2474 Před 7 měsíci

    Anticipation has one redeeming feet: In Draft League formats it can actually predict for you which set your enemy could use against you. Because the enemy knows which pokemon you are leading in the field, he will use gimmick sets with strange coverage moves, and anticipation can predict that. This is the best use, but its hard to pull of because even then: If you are "good" you prop know which moves are most likely on the enemys team and you can only see that your enemy has NOT choosen the coverage, which can safe you the ass later on, but its trickier. The ability which says you the enemies items is a lot better.
    Forewarn could help distinquish offensive from defensive mons: offensive water types could use hydro pump, while defensive one ALWAYS use scald. Its the same deal like anticipation so, its not completely useless. Other excamples: Fire Storm vs Flamethrower, Discharge vs Thunderbolt, Close Combat vs Body Press or the annoying dark type strangely having Foul Play as its strongest move in petto
    Funfact: In gen4, Clefable cannot get attacks prevented from paralysis. Its borderline comical how broken that mechanic is.
    Multitype kinda balances Arceus. Its the Anti-Magic Guard ability for the defensive Arceus Variants: It negates Leftovers at the end of the turn for an useless 20% Base Power increase of Judgment. Grass, Water or Ground Arceus with leftos would be busted and this ability holds them in check and mades them "just" very good. That makes E-Killer so strong, you must use the worst offensive Type for a good item slot, (and they fucking slot on silc scarf on it JESUS) so you can use band, leftovers, fighting berry or life orb to make it stronger.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 7 měsíci

      You're 1,000% mired in the super effective swindle bro

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 Před 2 lety

    Thought I was catching up on all my youtube subscriptions tonight but it is...40 minutes before bed and I'm doing this instead.
    This is a better plan anyway

  • @Raybayize
    @Raybayize Před 2 lety +3

    To use the words of cockroach: まってたぜ むしとり.

  • @swmedia2
    @swmedia2 Před 2 lety

    Cool video. Also I think Big Chungus is funny

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      I disagree, all zoomer humor must be destroyed

  • @willbill6942
    @willbill6942 Před 2 lety +3

    Came for a tier list, received a tier list AND based FE:13 takes

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety

      I actually like Awakening overall!!
      Wtf happened to cavs and knights tho

  • @anarchistangel2314
    @anarchistangel2314 Před 8 měsíci

    Fun thing i did with magic guard recently since the ability was in the video, put a flame orb on Clefable for all the benefits you mentioned like status immunity and then Trick it onto your opponent's main physical attacker for a poor mon's Will O Wisp that also takes away their actual held item. It doesn't work all the time, of course, but when it does it's both effective and funny as hell to watch the other player scramble when their late game sweeper suddenly becomes dead weight lmao

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 7 měsíci

      Why be POOR when you can be rich?!

    • @anarchistangel2314
      @anarchistangel2314 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ImportedCheese you just wanted an excuse to use the Anna emote didn't you
      I mean I can't blame you it's a great edit, definitely high S tier 🤌

  • @Rarest26
    @Rarest26 Před 2 lety +1

    God tier intro. Now we wait until the inevitable Moody one, cause lets be honest, thats gotta be a free mon defining when fucking BIDOOF is unironically a menace.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety

      Any suggestions for the Moody edit?!

    • @thekrampusclaus4148
      @thekrampusclaus4148 Před 2 lety

      @@ImportedCheese hmmm idk you might get striked but ultra instinct Goku when the evasion boosts start coming

  • @thekrampusclaus4148
    @thekrampusclaus4148 Před 2 lety +5

    Multitype is a good ability: though it locked you into using plates, but you got a 1.2x boost to your stab judgment with plates, making it effectively base 120 power with stab. Though tbh Multitype is honestly just the cherry on top when it comes to Arceus because those stats and that movepool is insane: though there are instances where other Arceus forms were more viable than extreme killer: Arceus-Ghost in gen 5 Ubers being the best rapid spin blocker in the tier, being ranked S over Extreme Killer’s A+. Arceus Ground eclipsing Arceus normal in gen 7 ubers because it is a great primal Groudon and Necrozma dusk mane check on offensive teams. z crystals also work on Arceus with Multitype. Extreme killer is still the premier offensive Arceus though but there were occasions where other Arceus forms were just better overall.

    • @nlb137
      @nlb137 Před 2 lety +3

      The point is that Arceus is good, not the ability or the plates. If you could have a Pokemon with Arceus' stats, but with a real typing an another ability, you would. That's why Extreme Killer Arceus is so popular; it's *stats* are what make it good. Using Arceus-Water or whatever is more of a "this gets me a 720 BST water type" than "wow I'm glad I got to use my item and ability to change types".

    • @kirbyjinet302
      @kirbyjinet302 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nlb137 the reason why arceus is so damn good is because of multi type. Being able to plug any hole in the team builder as well as being able to adapt to whatever the fuck the meta game changes into is huge. It cannot be understated how good arceus steel and ghost are as well as how much usage all of its other forms get. If arceus got something like intimidate it still would be pretty damn good but no where near as omni present and versatile.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      multitype still seems kinda...whatever

    • @thekrampusclaus4148
      @thekrampusclaus4148 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ImportedCheese I mean you couldn’t tell what type it was in team preview for a while iirc

  • @docwall14kj
    @docwall14kj Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks!

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety

      Eyyyy thank you, but I still don't like Tatsu as a character

  • @TheZett
    @TheZett Před 2 lety +4

    The hype is real!

    • @TheZett
      @TheZett Před 2 lety

      Excellent video, also thanks for the gift anonymous gifter

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      Healed!!

  • @arcuscotangens
    @arcuscotangens Před 2 lety

    When your parody of reaction videos provides more value than most reaction videos.

  • @orangesilver8
    @orangesilver8 Před 2 lety

    24:22 oh damn you're in the okay range. pog

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +1

      It's true! Privileged! But still selected for "random" searches

  • @skylercroghan6933
    @skylercroghan6933 Před 2 lety

    love the runescape references

  • @miscellaneoof
    @miscellaneoof Před 2 lety +1

    You could make green the background of the utility abilities instead of yellow since Pokemon green exists

  • @Dw7freak
    @Dw7freak Před 10 měsíci

    The funny thing about Dry Skin Paras and Parasect is that they basically have a x5 weakness to fire-type moves thanks to that ability. I actually think that Dry Skin is the only ability that makes you take more damage from a type. It's not like they were surviving a fire hit to begin with, but now they're super not surviving.

  • @tayx3278
    @tayx3278 Před 2 lety

    I think that there is a way to always activate anger point:
    Be in a double battle.
    Have a partner with Super Luck, Scope Lens, and an high critical hit ratio like Razor Leaf.
    Hit your Pokémon with Anger Point

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +2

      Ok but what is your opponent doing during this nonsense tho

    • @cadencenavigator958
      @cadencenavigator958 Před 2 lety

      Razor Leaf can't target your partner. Moves that hit both opponents can only hit both opponents. I guess you could Karate Chop or Poison Tail?

    • @TheKyubiisaan
      @TheKyubiisaan Před 2 lety

      Frost Breath and Storm Throw

  • @TheAuron32
    @TheAuron32 Před 2 lety

    this wont take too long... 5 hours later.
    enjoyed this live :)

  • @Stachelbeeerchen
    @Stachelbeeerchen Před 2 lety +1

    Toxic orb fling after getting poisoned👌. In double battle you can also swap leftovers from you partner

  • @Begeru
    @Begeru Před 5 měsíci

    Storm Drain is pretty insane in doubles especially in VGC when Kyogre is around.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 4 měsíci

      Storm Drain lumineon will save us in PBR for sure

  • @getsu0
    @getsu0 Před 2 lety

    i'd put adaptability in mon defining bc it's so so powerful w/ porygon z w/ conversion. it basically just doubles your first slot move until you switch out, and also gives you whatever immunities or resistances it has. also you literally brought up porygon z when explaining why it's called that lol. i use psyshock or psychic (which doesn't make much use of it defensively), tri attack, recover, and conversion on porygon z (which is definitely my favourite non legendary so i'm probably very biased).

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety

      Conversion is so bad tho

    • @getsu0
      @getsu0 Před 2 lety

      @@ImportedCheese yeh it's garbage if you have download.

  • @gespenst0083
    @gespenst0083 Před 2 lety +2

    At least Skitty/ Delcatty is broken in mystery dungeon sky.

  • @marilynlucero9363
    @marilynlucero9363 Před 2 lety +2

    Some 12 yrs old kid: *Tried to fight with 6 totally not hacked Shiny Zacian*
    Pro-player: Who else but Quagsire?

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Quagsire propaganda is out of control

    • @marilynlucero9363
      @marilynlucero9363 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ImportedCheese Be glad I ain't grass, so won't be eating ass.

  • @LordRemiem
    @LordRemiem Před rokem +1

    I was watching a video from False Swipe Gaming and... curious trivia, back in gen4 it was possible to take down a competitive Blissey with a Hyper Beam from a Life Orb Adaptability Porygon-Z

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem +1

      That doesn't seem true to me lol

    • @LordRemiem
      @LordRemiem Před rokem

      @@ImportedCheese watch the video on Blissey! :D

  • @youtubecyan7061
    @youtubecyan7061 Před 2 lety

    I'n trying to find the walreyn joke that was way too funny

  • @richardomilos8686
    @richardomilos8686 Před rokem

    Dry skin is mon defining for sure if it can make parasect a consideration for ubers at some point and it pretty much makes toxicroak what it is.

  • @dazedmoon8762
    @dazedmoon8762 Před 2 lety

    Also Cheese, I'd say that Unaware is above Technician or maybe even Poison Heal. This ability lets you HARD counter most set up mon, and countering the strongest pokemon of the Ubers (and AG) tiers is absolutely better than a 1.5x boost to your weaker moves. I use Unaware Clefable instead of Magic Guard with Cosmic Power, which (if players use it over Magic Guard) potentially sets it above Magic Guard?

  • @jak3brantolino
    @jak3brantolino Před 2 lety

    I got swept by a slurpuff with unburden (sitrus berry) belly drum
    I’ll never forget it

  • @zacknelson8918
    @zacknelson8918 Před 2 lety

    You need to do gen 3 starters and 4 and 5 and so on and so on, the one and 2 were amazing and I want the rest of the starters

  • @heroicvileplume7184
    @heroicvileplume7184 Před rokem

    I get that this is a three month old video, but Scrapple is really good actually. Fry it up until well done with some eggs and serve with hot apple butter.

  • @gespenst0083
    @gespenst0083 Před 2 lety +1

    I lost an entire randomized nuzlocke because of an anger point absol on the first route.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +1

      I BET YOU WERE REALLY....upset.

    • @gespenst0083
      @gespenst0083 Před 2 lety

      @@ImportedCheese Yup, I had to restart and W2 has a pretty long intro, but at least I got a water veil slaking as my starter that time around.

  • @eazybuxafew
    @eazybuxafew Před 2 lety

    LMAOO Michael Phelpscadrill a terrifyingly funny

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety

      The best Swift Swimmer / Sand Rusher in history?!

  • @OniiChanPls
    @OniiChanPls Před rokem

    My favorite Poketuber hands down. I also look like you but I'm jungle Asian without the curly hair. So we're like brothers

  • @codybutler7742
    @codybutler7742 Před rokem

    Adaptability was meant to boost non-stab moves, but PorigonZ is about as glitchy as gen 1, and since people really liked the glitched effect so much it was never patched.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem

      Adaptability does make sense!
      ...........but only on Porygon

  • @JazzyWaffles
    @JazzyWaffles Před 2 lety

    49:14 Wait didn't we establish in the Gen 2 in-game tier list that Gliscor "isn't in this game" and it's just Gligar? ;)

  • @qorv4973
    @qorv4973 Před 2 lety

    I think the biggest problem with Flower gift is that the boost is awkward. Sure you do have some physical attackers, but you miss out on solar beam and eruption/fire blasts. Instead of Sp def, it would have been amazing to have a sp atk boost

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice Před 2 lety +2

    Hey I think Honey Gather should of been higher (thanks for the membership)

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      Request denied

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice Před 10 měsíci

      @@ImportedCheese 😔💔 maybe you should know that honey (gather) gets you a lot farther than vinegar

  • @fortello7219
    @fortello7219 Před 2 měsíci

    Dragon Cheer your ally Kingdra, they use first turn agility, then Sniper Drago Meteor?
    Niche but might work

  • @slewdry8233
    @slewdry8233 Před 2 lety +1

    angerpoint could be used with a Super Luck Pokemen equipped with Scope Lens and High Crit moves

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 2 lety +1

      Stop critting yourself
      Stop critting yourself
      Stop critting yourself

  • @sablesalt
    @sablesalt Před 2 lety +2

    Anticipation but it reveals their whole moveset, spread and doxxes them for good measure.
    Also it should just be merged with forewarn imo

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před 10 měsíci

      Anticipation revealing all 4 moves might actually be good!

    • @sablesalt
      @sablesalt Před 10 měsíci

      @@ImportedCheese to be honest I see very good use of it as scouting with imposter pokémon has always been strong but I question if it would be a good idea in hindsight as my experience using imposter chansey in balanced hackmons makes me fear the kind of linear flowchart gameplay that can be done with such knowledge.

  • @sirwolfy9372
    @sirwolfy9372 Před 2 lety +1

    Klutz SHOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING SINCE YOU COULD SWITCH THE MEGA STONE OR A BAND KR BELT OR LEFTOVERS BUT I GUESS IT DOES NOT HAVE PRIORITY.

  • @Rukir
    @Rukir Před rokem

    where did you get that One Winged Clef-angel art?? Cant find it anywhere

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem

      It was made by someone in my Discord. Should be a link in the description?!

  • @sirwolfy9372
    @sirwolfy9372 Před 2 lety

    There should be a "gimmicky" exploit with Hail then Sunny Day hits and a Rainy weather would be set for one turn only, that would be rad!
    That way of thinking was bcz that Gen 5 had this obscure animations that happens after certain conditions, they don't add anything to the gameplay but imagine if it actually happened.

  • @scoobiusmaximus9508
    @scoobiusmaximus9508 Před 2 lety

    So i feel like if one tier of a tier list is bigger than all of the other tiers on the list combined it should probably be split. Pretty good list otherwise though.
    Would probably move Bad Dreams down a lot because if you're asleep against a Darkrai you're probably not staying in, and if you are it probably doesn't need the chip damage to kill you. If you could have any other ability on this list above like Leaf Guard you probably would take that over Bad Dreams for consistent usefulness imo.
    Ice Body deserves to move up because unlike everything else in its tier it is both consistent and actually useful to pull off. Hail is the worst weather, but it's still a strategy that you can do without relying massively on luck or some really convoluted set up.

  • @Eclipsmon8421
    @Eclipsmon8421 Před rokem

    Technician now got even more arguments to be in mon defining, because Maushold has this ability and Population Bomb.

    • @ImportedCheese
      @ImportedCheese  Před rokem

      Is it actually strong tho? I don't know

    • @Eclipsmon8421
      @Eclipsmon8421 Před rokem

      @@ImportedCheese I don't know, because that's like the only thing that is really good about that pokemon aside from speed, but man is it a good move.