‘Extraordinary’ for Liz Truss and Jacob Rees-Mogg to hail themselves as ‘popular’ Conservatives
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- “Satire is dead."
As Liz Truss’s Popular Conservatism movement, known as PopCon, host a conference days after the general election, Tory peer Daniel Finkelstein says it’s “infuriating” and “an insult to other Conservatives”. Peter Mandelson wonders “who in their right mind” would support Suella Braverman, describing her as a “mean, carping, disloyal individual”.
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The Conservatives losing, with Rees-Mogg and Truss losing their seats was the perfect hat-track for me.
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With Rees-Mogg, should that not be “the perfect top-hat trick”?
Could not have happened to better people the two who.are hated the most
If Danny thinks 2010 is worse than today then he is frankly delusional.
1. Debt was just over 1 trillion now pushing 3 trillion
2. Economy was growing, now it is stagnant.
3. NHS had its lowest waiting times now the NHS is in pieces.
Add to that falling down schools and prisons and poo in our rivers.
But if you think things now are better, sure they are pal, back to bed for you nurse will be along shortly.
I remember Labour PFI (Private Finance Initiative) where the Labour Party built Schools, Hospitals, CFE Colleges and the Country is still paying off this debt, bankrupting Schools and Hospitals as it comes out of their budgets
Figures last week ( after this video) showed quarterly growth the best for two years - so not stagnant.
Liz Truss' lack of self awareness is staggering.
It's a level of perfection unachievable by those more neurotypical.
AH i think SHE is ONLY aware of HERSELF
I disagree, I think she seems pretty sentient for a lettuce.
@@scriptguru4669 She was technically beaten by the lettuce, wasn't she? She's sub-lettuce.
Lovely pension though....ex Prime Minister !
So popular that they lost their seats.🤡💩
They're also all backed by the IEA - the think tank that backed Truss and her mini budget.
Popular among certain people. Mainly themselves.
I am soo happy that they have bben unseated
@@Cw90118 Their thinking tanked
If they were popular, they wouldn't be unemployed, they still be MPs.
They had a broader popularity which didnt necesarily defend their seat, they certainly had their fans he was entertaining to some. I cant see anything to like about Truss though to be honest
We vote for parties, not individual candidates.
"Remoaner liberal elite establishment rigged the election"
Or similar crazy talk.
@@vincentvangogh8092He was at his best when interviewed by Ali G came across as a likable but a bit weird then. I would be interested to know to what extent he is real and to what extent he is a character he plays - when he was interviewed by Ali G it did seem like two people playing a role not just one.
The true term is "Popular Conservatism" - It's about policies, not people.
As popular as a portable toilet on the last day of a hot Bank Holiday weekend.
Rees-Mogg and Truss are beyond satire. You couldn't make them up.
Which is a shame as we could have just thrown the book away.
Though Nerine Skinner does a good job with Truss.
They are an amalgamation of various Monty Python sketches.
Not entirely. They know they are/will become irrelevant without being in the news regularly, so the group around them makes sure they are in the news. Their audience is not the public but extreme right libertarian donors.
@@marcusott2973 Moggy is definitely a contender for Upper Class Twit of the Year.
Hard to put into words the ridiculousness of these people.
See above.
Popular? Even their own families can't stand them. 😂
I have a feeling their parents are probably much worse people.
@@adblocker276 Well Stanley Patrick Johnson springs to mind.
Jacob's nanny speaks very highly of him
@@adblocker276William Rees Mogg ??
NOT quite CERTAIN ABOUT that I THINK that JACOB REES MOGG WILL HAVE no ISSUES from his family.
"Whatever happened to the Popular Conservative Front?"
"She's over there."
Their Arrogance was & is Astounding.
The lack of self awareness of these pompous chancer narcissists is both staggering and depressingly predictable 😵💫
@@fusionfan6883 I learned from having a horrible narcissistic boss, that these type of people usually have no self-awareness whatsoever, but genuinely believe that they are very self-aware!
@@portcullis5622 I was a whistle blower against such a boss who bullied our team for 5 years.
If Liz Truss is 'popular' I'm a banana
Surely a lettuce…
Beep Beep I’m a jeep
A Romaine Banana ?
I find this comment quite a-pealing.
You are perfectly safe.
Perhaps we should stop rewarding sociopaths by putting them in positions of power? These destructive people should be kept WELL AWAY (yes, I am yelling!) from government! Have we learned nothing from thousands of years of damage from such folks?
Apparently not. We keep electing them.
The sweet, sweet smell of delusion. 😂😂
Smells something like a rotting corpse, I'd imagine...
I watched some of the footage of Pop Con and saw a lot of people that were totally out of step with the real world and blaming “gaffes” rather than the terrible governance over the last 8-14 years.
It’s rather entertaining to watch people not realizing that they’re the problem regardless of the obvious information in-front of them.
They’re not a feature, they’re a bug.
The problem is that George Osborne had no economic experience and he is just a liar. There was no emergency in 2010. Alistair Darling's economic plan had us in recovery, budget surplus, by 2015 and we were on track for that in 2010 by the election.
Osborne implemented additional, further, cuts that were not necessary and choked growth and stability.
Rachel Reeves has buckets of economic experience.
Is that why labour left a note for the incoming Tory government saying "there's no money left"? This actually happened by the way.
@@harrybrownrigg9057 the running joke note that previous outgoing ministers used to leave for each other? Are you still swallowing that Tory load?
Two years of austerity was needed .As Germany does this every ten tears . But continuous austerity is madness . The Labour government had thrown money at the public sector ,stolen from the private sector .
@@harrybrownrigg9057 You really need to give your head a wobble, mate.
@@hiraldosternflyer7112 How to say something without saying anything at all 🙄
Truss in particular, is ripe for some sort of medical intervention,
*experimentation
And Reese Mogg for a historical intervention...
She probably already had a lobotomy.
The lobotomy obviously was a failure...
Finally the family can do a long awaited intervention. There are many mental health facilities that can deal with her insanity- with the correct treatment returning to reality within a year. I wish her best in her journey sanity.
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Jacob wouldn't be a man of the people if the people was factory owners in the 1780s.
'‘Extraordinary’ for Liz Truss and Jacob Rees-Mogg to hail themselves as ‘popular’ Conservatives'. It's foolish to try to account for what nutters think.
I wish Suella Bravaman lost her seat so the Tory evolve.
I watched some of the footage of Pop Con and saw a lot of people that were totally out of step with the real world and blaming “gaffes” rather than the terrible governance over the last 8-14 years.
It’s rather entertaining to watch people not realizing that they’re the problem regardless of the obvious information in-front of them
I don't suppose they can realise that they're the problem. There's a common problem, it has been seen throughout the west in studies, where a large portions of people believe that 'the public', and specifically good, reasonable right-thinking people share their own views. This is one reason it's so easy and tempting for certain people to believe in electoral fraud in the absence of evidence, after all, "the people" are on their side. People are incredibly good at self-justification, and one way they do that is to presume they're in the majority (sometimes the "silent majority").
It's also part of the paradox whereby anti-authority voters support authoritarianism, they feel they need a strong outsider to break up the power structure (because the majority they imagine they represent is somehow being shut out), but what they usually get is an opportunist who is exploiting them to obtain power.
It's the real dark side to cynicism about politics. The things that are wrong with politics, in most cases are just as much or more a consequence of what the public chooses to reward or punish, as it is a sinister motive on the part of politicians. The nimbyism argument of course epitomises one aspect of that, but the same could be said of political language.
Politicians are aware that everything they say a) will reach a complex mixture of different people, and they will be punished more for offending a portion of that audience than rewarded for pleasing another portion, b) decontextualised, reframed or otherwise misrepresented, c) reduced to a simple, punchy, salient concept rather than a nuanced argument.
So they tightly control messaging, and then of course people begin to yearn for people who "speak their minds", and while some people are excellent at extemporisation under pressure, a lot of the people who "speak their minds" are in fact populists who benefit from being criticised for the things the say, so that they serve as a proxy for members of the public who feel their views are marginalised.
long rambling reply, so I apologise for that, but eh, people don't read these anyway.
The highlight of the election was Mogg getting the boot.
They’re about as popular as two rattlesnakes in a lucky dip.
So the horror movie we all just lived through has a sequel... return of the lettuce.
Nah, she's just cos-playing.
Pork Markets 2 - Squeal, piggy, squeal!
Liz Truss in America, bantering with Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage was a truly pathetic sight.
Pity the mad cow doesn't get locked up like Bannon the Hutt.
Although it's really a mental institution loonie lizzie belongs in
Liz Truss needs to learn the difference between popular and populist. And then she needs to learn what populism actually entails.
Indeed, much like people putting flags in their profiles.
A Popular Conservative. That's like saying a Popular Tumour or an Intelligent Reform Voter. Ps - I'm getting grief for idiosyncratic spelling - the point is "contradiction in terms": eg 'brexit benefits' or 'Johnson promises'
Why have you capitalized popular, tumour and voter?
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@Nick-X because he's far more intelligent than the rest of us knuckle draggers apparently.
A popular Conservative. That is like saying a popular tumour or an intelligent Reform voter. Ok now
@@Nick-X Are you a bit thick?
“An extreme LibDem”
You don't need mind altering drugs to listen to drill. As a matter of fact, mind altering drugs are not part of drill culture. Off to watch something less condescending. Still Disappointed...
Get out of bed earlier each morning so we can all gloat about "Our Overwhelming Labour Victory" for longer every day !😋😋😍
democracy came from the greeks....and how they paid for things was constantly finding the richest person and making them pay.
The Athenians had slaves
@@georgesdelatour yes you got to understand what democracy is….it’s a sociopathic reaction to psychopaths…..there is only one correct way of thinking caring and sharing, so why would you let people vote and you need to get rid of money, as we have new methods of communication.
The real pressing question is how is Jacob Reese Moggs nanny coping?
Nanny always copes.
Perhaps Truss could get a job as Mogg's nanny.
Liz Truss, Suella Bravermans and Jacob Rees-Moog are so out of reality.... Geez...
Once again i'd love to know what we're meant to worry about when it comes to "The extreme left"
It means they won't get any of our money if they have decent politicians in power.
It’s never defined and that is entirely deliberate.
Extremely compassionate and extremely sensible.
The despised wokerati of course!
Can't take Liz Truss seriously with her portrait of Prince (the singer) dressed as Nelson. Totally disrespectful for a British PM. What conservative patriot would replace the face of Nelson in a portrait in their office?
Surely the real question is this: what is being done to address the undiagnosed mental health problems of the 11,217 people who continued to vote for Truss?
Put Farage on the Agriculture and Fisheries Select Committee…..interesting discussions abound
How about the Popular Peoples' Front.
Splitters!
Maybe they meant populist… Although they are clearly unpopular populists.
Don't comment on things you don't know about. That's not drill.
"tory brainbox" is a contradiction of terms.
If only there had recently been a good time to reveal the secret of how to make the Conservatives popular ;-)
It's so ridiculous that they consider Stahmer as far left
He's as far left as the markings down the middle of the road.
They don't.
It's just red meat for the Tory crowd and hoping it will scare the less politically aware.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Calling new Labour MPs *Starmtroopers* made me spit coffee down my t shirt 😂
Yes, we'll hear that a few times in the coming years
Labour should go after all the fraud perpetrated by the tories and get back the money that was stolen from the public purse. Just as vigorously as the tories pursued the people claiming benefits. That would help to cut taxes or go towards the nhs where it should have been spent.
Jacob is so popular that wherever he goes he needs his nanny to look after him
“Pop” as in a burst balloon?
Popular with who exactly? Each other?
Are Mogg and Truss saying it was all just performance art? 😮
11:18 the graft and corruption under the previous government was unparalleled. I’d hope they focus on that crime and cronyism rather than simple inefficiency
Truss can now retire to her coven in the forest and focus on making gout potions for the villagers, speaking with the animals and making ointments in her cauldron. It's nature and there will be more balance in the Force.
When you look at these deluded people it's quite obvious why countries in the dire state it's in as they were in important government positions making important decisions for years.
British satire comedy at its best.
These people have absolutely no sense of the ridiculous or ludicrous but those are probably the only things that save them from despising themselves and their behaviour.
Boris Johnson's coalition was a mad one that could never survive - what has Merthyr got to do with Godalming? And why would Surrey suddenly pay for Newcastle to 'Level up'?
Great to see that charade fall apart and dissolve into recrimination. Unite the right? On what? There has to be a significant risk of disintegration. Excellent! :D
Well them losing their seats was certainly popular.
Thought we were rid of these two for a while. Guess we still can't have nice things.
Drill..that wasn t drill!!😅
The Tories have squandered vast amounts of public money on medicals for the disabled, back-to-work programs, universal credit, etc etc. They also pumped vast amounts of money into education reforms. None of which had much success.
Moreover, if Labour start building council houses at cheaper rents than private landlords, it might shave billions off housing benefit.
Plus if Labour is successful in taxing the energy companies that will free up billions currently being spent on rebates for extortionate gas bills, thus freeing up money to be spent somewhere else.
The idea that the Tory Party are the frugal party is a total misnomer. On their own pet projects they have been spendthrifts,
Think deluded is the right thing to say about ms truss and mogg
This is why Trump wants to do away with silly things like elections
"Carry On Conservatives"
Populist more like, not popular.
Can`t wait for ian hislops` response!
I expect Hislop will continue running Private Eye as if the Conservatives are still the government of the country. He has a more anachronistic, 1950s idea of where power actually lies in Britain than Richard Ingrams had. Re-calibrating his priors to be able to satirise the people who have real power in 2024 is probably beyond him.
From an Australian’s point of view, this os delusional and funny !!!
Yeh, because Australia has literally zero political issues, just ask the indigenous people.
@@jonm7272 Every country has its issues. However, the UK has looked particularly clownish for some time now.
@@talideon this is absolutely true, luckily we did something about that in our general election last week. I was particularly responding to the "As an Australian..." in the OP's comment. As if this suggests some kind of political superiority.
Tories have lost the feel good factor they in shock .how dare they do that to us how the mighty have fallen.
So what you are actually saying people and the Tory party do not put the country first. Then you wonder why they lost !!
Mandelson saying 'Drill?' with complete bewilderment is absolutely iconic. One can see the cogs turning trying to think of all the definitions of the word drill and how it related to that piece of audio 😂
Karma…aaaahhh!
Even Monty Python would have trouble making the Mogg and Truss show appear more ridiculous than it already is. This is grossly unfair to both political pundits and comedians.
Section the Truss!!
This truss is missing its rivets!
its not drill and it was awful
Popular Cons. says it all 😂
No doubt they were popular
Dinosaurs we're popular before they were wiped out
Starmergeddon❤
dinosaurs were popular with whom?
@Glasgow_kiss there was alot of them and they were successful. End of. Looking at the Tory front bench today. It was full of Dinosaurs past psst and past . It was a scene from the Dawn of The Dead 🤣🤣🤣
@@Glasgow_kissI like dinosaurs
@@countycod123 who were they popular with? who was cheering them on?. i dont think the words you use mean what you think they do.
@@Glasgow_kiss The Tories are extinct
You've gor mandelson on, and the title is... satire isn't dead
Rees-Mogg, appearing on BBC Newsnight last night (Wednesday) talking about, "Association Football" and comparing himself to "Uncle Fester, with a light bulb in my mouth" while also revealing his Discovery channel, fly on the wall documentary, starring him, wife and 6 children, warts and all series is pantomime stuff. That paired with his own view, that nobody wants to hear from Conservatives right now, it seems extraordinary that he has said he will be competing with the Kardashians for airtime, because his forlorn view, post election, is that deposed politicians have to be seen, to get elected. The celebrity jungle certainly worked for Nigel Farage, who undoubtedly needed the money, not something Jacob seems to have to worry about.Yet he remains a staunch Braverman supporter. This is a man of many distorted thoughts who is on the verge of his male menopause!
Shut the door on your exit Jacob, its the dawn of a new era.
Truss is unpopular. But Jacob Rees Mogg is definitely a rather popular figure on the right. The fact that he lost his seat comes down to the Tory parties unpopularity coupled with the fact that it has always been a marginal between Labour and Conservative.
eeer...banking crisis of 2008? Finke;stein is SOOO disingenuous.
No more so than Sterm-trooper Mandy and his brazen and constant undermining of Corbyn whilst going on about loyalty to the elected leader of the party.
The idea that business people are savants of efficiency is absolute bunk. They are experts in marketing, manipulation and hiding their inefficiencies from shareholders.
Their are a number of Conservatives who have left the party because of its anti-immigrant stance as well as its BREXIT stance which seems to be the hardest BREXIT it could get away with. Those need to be brought back into the fold which means a move much more towards to centre. Its policies which split families up (because one was born on the wrong side of a border), the way that it wanted to ignore the law, which is the exact opposite of what the Conservatives used to describe itself.
Chasing after the Reform/UKIP vote is precisely the opposite of what it should do and it needs to return to being the broad church it was which led to it leading this country more than any other in the post WWII years.
You know you're in deep doodoo when the chancellor compares your fiscal situation to Ireland
The newly elected government has started in an energetic matter consulting regions & countries in the United Kingdom, consulting with European countries on a new post brexit arrangement. A new arrangement with Europe is essential if we wish to see a growing economy . More cooperation would mean less red tape for businesses dealing with Europe, more joint investment shared with EU and UK . The route is closer alignment but just short of being in the Single Market or Customs Union in respect of the Referendum result. Instead of freedom of movement, I recommend 'Priority Boarding ' budget airline style where we allow EU citizens priority for migration to people outside the EU.
This Finkelstein dude should be deported.
Maybe the "pop" is with reference to how they exploded the party from within !!
Not Popcon,. NatCon. You laugh at them, but that is what totalitarian regimes do. "Let us step up the building of a prosperous country by applying..............patriotism". is a North Korean slogan. Everyone laughs sat these people until they get the power that they need to do what they want.
"I've heard of drill, but what I've experienced I did not necessarily enjoy"
Shades of Bill Clinton there!
Margo: I am shocked and saddened for Surbiton
Audrey: I want the Manor House back ..I'm entitled to it!.
Jerry do something!
Jerry: hahahahahahaha.
There goes the Good life.
I've seen many mics with logos on put in front of interviewees but this is the first time I've seen the mics become the stars of the show!
Finally the family can do a long awaited intervention for Liz truss . There are many mental health facilities that can deal with her insanity- with the right asylum and correct treatment - returning to a basic functioning reality within a year. I wish her best in her mental health journey back to reality.
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Poplar Conservatives perhaps. Can they make short planks out of poplar trees?
Shouldn't this now be called 'How to Lose an Election'?
Both delusional
Let us hear and see no more of truss or mugg
I like them, they made me laugh so hard I dislocated a rib.
Medically impressive! Hopefully the NHS reforms will go well for you.
Check out Nerine Skinner’s version of Liz Truss’ job interview after she lost her seat.
So funny
There's a reason the thick of it hasn't had a new season. The times is included in this you so enabled them
Leave them to their delusions and the real world can then move on and forget they ever existed.
Inflated Ego''s have blinded them to the truth!
About as popular as syphilis!
Chlamydia has had a resurge in CLacton behind the bins since Farridge hit town.
I almost might've considered voting Tory if they'd proposed to concrete over Gavin Williamson.