Open Fermentation Home Brewing

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • Open fermentation is traditional in many brewing cultures and creates a whole different world of flavor in beers. And you can do it at home! In this episode, we learn the ways of a wise open fermentation with yeast-Jedi Jeremy King and apply it to Dawson's "Topless Hefeweizen" (ooh la la!).
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Komentáře • 74

  • @kirbsmeister2
    @kirbsmeister2 Před 11 lety +18

    Interesting stuff. It's always worth remembering how simple and pain-free brewing can be, beneath all the overly obsessive and theoretical advice we tend to get.

  • @tigerfootball90
    @tigerfootball90 Před 8 lety +9

    I'm not the only airlock sniffer then hahahaha... Awesome Video!!

  • @kf9010
    @kf9010 Před 5 lety +1

    I just made an irish red and as it is winter where I live. I used a glass carboy inside my house with a 3/8th hose that went out the window. Tasted fine and smelt fruity and nice. Will know for sure after carb builds in three weeks or so.

  • @BrewTube
    @BrewTube Před 9 lety +1

    So glad I found your channel, very informative. I've often open fermented, but I think I may just close the lid on my current lager...

  • @drunkenmaster4537
    @drunkenmaster4537 Před 5 lety +1

    Powerful yet gentle. Like my loving.

  • @ltrog444
    @ltrog444 Před 8 lety +8

    Curious how the open fermentation affected the taste. You said you had brewed this several times in the past so if you could give a synopsis on tasting notes of open vs closed for this recipe that would close the loop.

  • @Brewmaster103
    @Brewmaster103 Před 8 lety

    Fantastic video! I will definitely be trying this for the summer. I may put a muslin bag over the top of the open bucket, just to prevent my cat from having his way or any stray hair.

  • @jjembracelife
    @jjembracelife Před 12 lety

    VERY helpful! Thank you!

  • @mannischaeck5511
    @mannischaeck5511 Před 2 lety +1

    No tasting notes, hm.
    Did anyone follow up on this. Does it make a difference in the glass.
    Does Micheal mention open fermentation in any video or book ever again?

  • @keithlammers4316
    @keithlammers4316 Před 7 lety

    I really want to try this method

  • @Localpain
    @Localpain Před 12 lety +2

    Oh i thought that the point of open fermentation was to not add any yeast but to use wild yeast strings. Atleast that is what we do over here. Intresting Episode is there any tasting of this beer upploaded?

  • @hegodofdoom5160
    @hegodofdoom5160 Před 12 lety

    So awesome.

  • @321davida
    @321davida Před 3 lety

    Inspiring stuff! I'm removing my top as well 🤣

  • @ilanmagen
    @ilanmagen Před 11 lety

    Love this episode, why moving to close fermenter and not just putting the lead on ?

  • @AmitMishra-ze3oi
    @AmitMishra-ze3oi Před 10 lety +5

    you might not want to talk into the fermenter..quite a nice way to introduce contamination

    • @ragimundvonwallat8961
      @ragimundvonwallat8961 Před 9 lety +9

      Amit Mishra i always brew open and i never had contamination,never.so for more than 10 years that also include dropping stuff into it,touching it with my hand and more that i dont remember lol....its more robust than you may imagin

    • @alavyls8192
      @alavyls8192 Před 5 lety

      Lol immediately after noting sanitary procedures he blabs all over the Brew with his dead skin forest.
      Luckily open fermenting is bullet proof

    • @vikramjitsingh4538
      @vikramjitsingh4538 Před 4 lety

      @@ragimundvonwallat8961 Hi Ragimund, pls lemme know if u still read this comment, are there any special conditions to open ferm, or just let the wort ferment in a koelship, or fish gutter as described by Jeremy........what temperature to maintain while fermenting.........cheers

    • @ragimundvonwallat8961
      @ragimundvonwallat8961 Před 4 lety +2

      @@vikramjitsingh4538 i just put it in my fermenting vesse i put a towel over it to keep bugs out and i let it rip...as for the temp stay in between 15 to40C and you'll be fine.
      i proceeded like that for more than a decade and sometime i do 200L batch in a big food grade blue barrell

    • @vikramjitsingh4538
      @vikramjitsingh4538 Před 4 lety

      @@ragimundvonwallat8961 thanks lots Ragi for responding.......open fermentation has many benefits, especially if u are looking for strong esters.......also wanted to know one thing, do you stir the yeast while the fermentation is in process or just leave it that way......thanks again....cheers

  • @amidared812
    @amidared812 Před 7 lety

    Great video which I'm sure encourages people to try the open method. Question, would a small bain marie be adequate for this method ?

  • @joshuadecarlo8256
    @joshuadecarlo8256 Před 9 lety

    Hi guys. So I just brewed an IPA. Closed it up with an airlock for a day then found this video. It was bubbling pretty good but decided to crack it open and go topless. After a day it still looked great. Then a day later fermentation seemed to have stopped. I checked the gravity. It has been 1.010 for the past two days. HEEEELP

    • @fatmanstupid
      @fatmanstupid Před 9 lety +2

      1.010 is a typical Final Gravity after it hits that let it sit for about another week then rack it to secondary, keg, or bottle.

  • @Caffiend001
    @Caffiend001 Před 7 lety

    Awesome video! Is there a follow-up vid on tasting notes?

  • @rhysezfpv
    @rhysezfpv Před 5 lety +1

    I used WB-06 fermented crazy , almost spilling out my carboy for 50hrs at 25 c* . All of a sudden slowed down to 1 bubble per 15 sec. Is this ok ? I got her down to 20c* after about 60 hrs . bubbles still about 15 per sec on airlock.

  • @thedavidbrother2
    @thedavidbrother2 Před 9 lety

    Interesting. But as 'Localpain' said earlier, it would have been even more interesting to see a fermentation without adding any yeast. After all, for hundreds of years, that was the way they did it. Beer would probably not taste the same every time...but. It would be a nice experiment to see, Brewing TV ! (edit: Episode 42. Oh yes.)

  • @Majnun74
    @Majnun74 Před 8 lety +1

    Great episode! I've been wondering how I would go about open fermentation at home. I'm still a little nervous to actually do it, though.

    • @warman31
      @warman31 Před 8 lety

      It's been two months since this comment. Have you tried it? If you did what are your results?

    • @Majnun74
      @Majnun74 Před 8 lety

      +Connor Lasch Yes I did. Grain bill was mostly acidulated malt with some Hallertauer hops. I clipped some Greek oregano and orange mint and pitched into cooling wort (2nd floor screened open window with large muslin sack covering steel buffet steam tray). The pitched herbs started foaming white spikey mold (I should've rested herbs on a raised platform above wort).
      After a few days I had a very thick layer of mold and Krausen yeast cake. I thought about throwing it out, but instead I strained wort into glass carboy (smelled wonderful; like bread) and air locked it. Looks healthy with a lot of air lock activity. Resting @ 73° in a dark place at the moment.

    • @warman31
      @warman31 Před 8 lety

      +Randall Schoverling At least you tried. sounds like a decent refreshing beer, too. Did you wash your herbs before throwing them in?

    • @Majnun74
      @Majnun74 Před 8 lety +1

      No. I wanted to innoculate wort with whatever wild yeast/bacteria was on the skin.

  • @chaist94
    @chaist94 Před 7 lety +1

    I was going to try this with my honey wheat using some K97. I will let you know how it goes.

  • @tylerthegrimm
    @tylerthegrimm Před rokem +1

    I mean people made beer long before sanitation or any of the fancy stuff we have now so yeah.

    • @ciderking4594
      @ciderking4594 Před rokem +2

      My grandpa said back in the day his cousin made a great tasting beer. Said his cousin showed him his fermenter afterwards and it was wide open with flies landing in it haha. Typically back then they would just put a cheese cloth over the top of the barrel while it fermented

  • @nicholaslymer7949
    @nicholaslymer7949 Před 9 lety

    Great video.
    I was wondering if stirring in primary is something you are doing specifically for open fermentation or is this something you do as standard practice? I have been cautioned to aerate, pitch, and leave be until fermentation is done. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
    Also, other than the fact that you have had a vigorous krausen and are removing it to avoid overflowing, would it also serve double purpose to remove some of the yeast and overwork the remaining yeast to stimulate more ester production for this hefe?

  • @alanpotter8680
    @alanpotter8680 Před 2 lety

    We do this with a 40 gallon tank, but the fermentation room is spotless and has very little contact with the outside world. We only use this for weissbier.

  • @wfu900
    @wfu900 Před 10 lety

    If you do an open fermentation in the plastic bucket, would you do a "clean" fermentation in it later? I've heard not to reuse a bucket following an infected or sour batch of brew as the next batch that is intended to be clean may pick up the bacteria that were intentionally or unintentionally introduced in the previous batch. I was wondering if open fermentation would be considered in this topic of discussion.

  • @kkbandchannel
    @kkbandchannel Před 3 lety

    so it is drinkable?

  • @chacalGYE
    @chacalGYE Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting that you decided to rack it to a secondary at 1.018 and with krausen still on top, do you expect the FG to drop to 1.012 in the secondary? How long would you keep it in the secondary?

    • @BrewingTV
      @BrewingTV  Před 3 lety +2

      It definitely still drops more in secondary since it was racked while still in the latter stages of fermentation. A beer like this could be in secondary for a week or two or even more. But to make use of those open fermentation flavors, you probably want to just give it a bit of time to finish fermentation and clear up a bit, then package.

  • @snwbrdngsfinest
    @snwbrdngsfinest Před 7 lety

    As with other commenters, I would be concerned with pet hair, insects, rodents, etc from being curious and finding their way into the bucket. I did see a comment about muslin bag, or mesh to prevent this. I would also LOVE to try this method, but would like to hear about solutions and successes to this problem.

  • @mr.morality7100
    @mr.morality7100 Před 7 lety

    great video nice and informative! what exactly is your 2nd fermenter? are you bottling at that point?

  • @excusemesir7824
    @excusemesir7824 Před 7 lety

    Can red yeast rice be used to ferment fruit? I'm wondering because it's my only option at the moment, strapped for cash and had it around, and this is really only an experiment on my part. Appreciate the responses!

  • @thomasford6416
    @thomasford6416 Před 11 lety +3

    Yes but what about flying insects?

    • @stuartliddle7228
      @stuartliddle7228 Před 4 lety

      and breathing over it

    • @nathanparry8315
      @nathanparry8315 Před 3 lety

      This is my concern. At this time of year even in the fermentation chamber, fruit flies are gonna get in. I'll try in winter.

  • @gri3720
    @gri3720 Před 3 lety

    Can you post a link to where you brought the crawfish table from?

  • @journeyfortwo5211
    @journeyfortwo5211 Před 3 lety

    What is the difference in the end product though?

  • @ragimundvonwallat8961
    @ragimundvonwallat8961 Před 9 lety +3

    i use a 200 litres blue food grade plastic bucket as fermenter and on top i just put a bed shet fold in 4...work really well.i never used an airlock in my life and never had problem.my present batch is almost finished bottling today or tomorrow ...Schwarz-weizzen come to daddy!

    • @graeme02
      @graeme02 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yep. I use a thin damp towel, negating the need for an airlock. I have only ever brewed this way.
      This method was shown to me by my very old uncle over thirty years ago. He learned how to brew from his father in the 1930s so it's proven to work well.

  • @mynameisnobody3113
    @mynameisnobody3113 Před 6 lety

    I wonder how much of a problem evaporation is where you are. I would love to do open air fermentation, but live ina very dry climate with 10%to 20% humidity.

  • @straightbrutality9264
    @straightbrutality9264 Před 4 lety

    How does this work for keeping out bugs?

  • @colibrispirits
    @colibrispirits Před 10 lety

    Thanks for the video! how about if i keg this beer for the second fermentation, wait couple of weeks & serve it on tap from the keg? would it b ok?

  • @andrewt248
    @andrewt248 Před 7 lety

    That is a WICKED collar on that keezer.

  • @volundburvelson5171
    @volundburvelson5171 Před 3 lety

    Well how does it taste?

  • @wpc1013
    @wpc1013 Před 11 lety

    A Chinese fine mesh broth skimmer would probably work better for cleaning the top. Wok Shop sells them on Amazon, just search for "Off the Top" Skimmer.

  • @Dirtroit
    @Dirtroit Před 12 lety

    Ron Brewgundy!

  • @stephanegagnon5430
    @stephanegagnon5430 Před 7 lety

    have any tasting video of you beer ?

  • @HanworthHomebrew
    @HanworthHomebrew Před 11 lety

    Wow

  • @Mark-yx5ul
    @Mark-yx5ul Před 9 lety

    maybe you said but.... do you plan to do any new episodes?

    • @mattburkey8393
      @mattburkey8393 Před 9 lety +3

      Mark Iacopelli Check out ChopAndBrew for more content like this.

  • @jimmywarner7563
    @jimmywarner7563 Před 9 lety

    My Understanding, brewing openly allows Oxygen to get in which at the same time Fermentation takes place, it also creates Vinegar? I'm not sure I understand how this works.

    • @Veggietalesfan32
      @Veggietalesfan32 Před 9 lety

      Jimmy Warner Actually a common organic chemistry reaction. When when a primary alcohol such as ethanol is oxidized, it creates a carboxylic acid by adding a double bonded oxygen. Ethanol oxidizes to acetic acid, or vinegar.

    • @amirehosseyni
      @amirehosseyni Před 9 lety

      +Brian Tomek so open fermenting = sour vinegar instead of Ale ? the how come good smoothy ester and more fruitish taste ? i don't get it really !

  • @saltyballze7032
    @saltyballze7032 Před 3 lety

    13.38 this is aerating not arousing :D

  • @traditionbrewingandcook1206

    I will not use plastic fermenter again it ends up making my beer sour

  • @ar73wilson
    @ar73wilson Před 7 lety +1

    Did he almost cry 15.50 minutes?

  • @ohdontchaknow
    @ohdontchaknow Před 12 lety

    Wouldn't that make it oxidize way faster? This is intriguing though.. I definitely want to try to make some sort of wild ale soon.

    • @balrog006
      @balrog006 Před 3 lety

      The actively fermenting yeast scavange oxygen so no, the beer should not oxidize from this. If you continued it past the active stage(his 3 days) and into maturation and packaging then oxygen can be problematic.

  • @jrmym2
    @jrmym2 Před 12 lety

    Hot side aeration is bad. Once the wort is cool, the addition of oxygen will result in a healthier, cleaner fermentation; yeasts love oxygen. Also, this method of fermentation should not result in a Wild Ale if done correctly.

  • @pdfbrander
    @pdfbrander Před 5 lety

    Yeah, lets play the same 8 notes over and over and over and over and over and over and over... That will make the video better right? 6:50 - 9:20