DON'T buy Lexar Cards! SONY A7IV
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- DON'T buy Lexar Cards! SONY A7IV
This video was create to inform you what cards you can use with the new sony a7iv camera. I do also suggest a couple of brands your should get over another. Lexar, Sandisk, Prograde, Angelbird, Sony. These simply are sd card brands to consider. But which type? V30? V60? V90? UHS-II? Micro SD Card? What? Confused yet? I use my Atomos Ninja V to record me using some of the cards so you can see what Codec I am choosing for each.
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My Sony V30 SD card doesn't work to shoot in S&Q mode. 😐
which v30 card is it? I stated in the video using the 95MB/s Sandisk extreme pro cards. I would recommend using v60 or v90 anyway
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Ah alright, mine is a 70MB/s card. I have a couple of v90 cards, but I just thought it would be a bonus if my v30 worked as well. Thanks mate
@@tyronmarshall ahhh thanks for checking that. 70MB/s must be a touch too slow. I feel the one I used was probably the bottom limit
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema sandisk v90 doesn't support the highest video quality in S&Q mode. I believe to be able to use all the S&Q settings you would need the CFEXPRESS type A card! (Can you please try and confirm because that's what happening to me and I'm not sure if I have any problem with my new sandisk V90 card!)
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I'm unable to use S&Q mode too with my two v30 Sandisk cards, a 170MB/s one and a 150MB/s one. Comes up with an error telling me I need a v60 card. Even if you change to the lowest bitrate codec and framerate it still won't work. I can record 200mbps 4k60 normally but I can't even record 60mbps 4k25 in S&Q mode lol. I'm sure it is a firmware bug.
I'm shocked to hear that lexar cards are not trust worthy. I m always using Lexar cards, and never in the last seven years have I had a single issue.
because this video is paid by non Lexar but Prograde ))))
Me too, it's fine for me, never had a problem for several years.
I lost 80 percent of my Iceland footage because if the Lexar.
A few of my wedding photographer friends swear against Lexar. They had more failures with Lexar than other brands like Sony or Sandisk.
@@sai3327 That may be true but he us correct about Lexar..
6 years using Lexar cards for 100’s of hours of recording long live performances on Sony cameras exclusively from the a6400 to the A1 and zero failures.
when you watch this video after buying 2 lexar cards 😭
Usefull! Just got my first pro camera, the sony a7iv. Struggling what to get, but I will go for the prograde 128gb v90! Thanks
Well, sd cards are no lego bricks and depending how they are being treated, they stop working. I'm using Lexar since a couple of years - currently the 128GB SDXC UHS-II - and I've never had any issues with Lexar sd cards so far. However, I should add that I do prophylactically change my sd cards every six months.
6 months is quite a extreme safety margin lol
I also had trouble with Lexar back when I got my a7lll. Switched to Sandisk, no troubles now. Looking forward to the a7mk4. Not shipping to Vancouver Island BC yet, be the new year before I see it I think.Thanks for the tip on the cards.
What troubles did you have with Lexar? And which card specifically?
@@coolpras26 the silver v60 ones probably
The Cfexpress type A will only make an improvement if we use the S&Q mode (with the most demanding codec) and to improve the size of the buffer before it is full.
Given the low burst on the A7IV, having the ability to have an almost unlimited buffer and for me, an argument that makes buying a Cfexpress type A, almost indispensable.
For those relying on CF-A, Sony cripples it to only one slot. The low burst being a downgrade from A7iii is a total letdown.
Very Thorough. Thanks
What about Lexars CF Express Type A? I want to get it for my FX3 since it's cheaper than Sony.
Matt Johnson the bearded wonder is promoting Lexar cards on his media selection video no problem! I use them a lot with no worries but you guys are scaring me….
Nice video, once again!!Buddy.I have always used Sandisk and never had a problem with them.Is good to know how the rest of the Sd card brands performance in case of a future switch is needed.I got a question, are you using the Small Rig cage from the A7SIII for the A7IV?As I don't think is any cage available at the moment.Salutes from London!!!
Sony A7IV case from smalrig, they say at homewebside, Expected release date is 10th Dec 2021
I am using the a7siii cage from tilta. had to file a little off the metal for it to fit correctly haha
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema really?wow,I’ll wait then for small rig to launch the cage and see how it goes!!Thanks for the feedback,look forward for your next videos!!Mate ☺️🙌🏾🙏🏾👊🏾
since your focus is video on on this channel, does card speed matter when it comes to shooting proxy with 4k? and can you shoot dual cards in 4k60 with v30?(for backup)
Really liked your video! Could corrupted cards can damage my camera? I got the Sony a7RV and bought the SD Lexar V90 and the camera was kinda glitching when I saw the photos on my computer they were corrupted, and I'm a little bit worried my camera got damaged or something. As soon I saw the camera was acting weird I stopped using the cards.
Totally Sandisk. Nearly 10 year's ago whilst in Greece, all my Kingston cards failed, a capacity problem! Managed to buy a few Sandisk cards in Athens, never looked back 😎
oh no! nothing worse than corrupt files on a card :/
That's good to know, to save my self a headache with my first Legit camera purchase of the Sony A7IV, I spent the cash and bought a SONY 160GB CFexpress Type A card real cost for that at bestbuy was $427.03 USD with a $10.00 USD rewards Credit lol! I also bought a 128GB SDXC UHS-II V90 and that one was $209.00 USD. Next is the lens, still watching videos to determine which one would be best for me but I'm leaning on the 24mm to 70mm Sony G Master. But still undecided. This is all new to me so I'm really paying attention to Content Creators like you for my gear needs for Content Creation 😅
Sony will be releasing a 24-70 version 2 very soon u should wait for that
I started having issue with lexar, i have 8 128gb V60 using a7siii and Fx3 10bit 422 XAVCS.. in every clip there’s a black frame some are longer are more, and some on my important shots happen on both camera different angles but I don’t know if the speed of sd card or the brand of sd card. When i use proxy on fcpx the transcoding stop.. or if did went through proxy timing are way off, the voices are delayed.
Just the other day I had a Lexar Professional V60 crap out on me and didn’t show any of the photos from my 3 shoots that day. Computer showed that was indeed data on the card however. Had to buy recovery software to get them off. First software I tried, the photos actually were unusable. Luckily the 2nd found them a different way and my naming convention was stripped and only a few images that I didn’t end up even using were actually corrupted visually.
Ive got a couple Lexar V90 128 cards that work fine in my A7III but in my A7IV I get caps in the files. There are short maybe one second gaps in the recordings.
i had one failure with sandisk card & 2 failures with lexar, with lexar sd backup card failed to record 40 photos, which i don't know why
I can't seem to fit any cards into my Sony A7iv. Sadly it's cus I probably won't be able to get my camera until next month..
I have kingston react plus for my a7c 285MB/sec read 165 MB/sec write. It is above what is necessary but at the same time it is very cheap around 54$ CDN. There is also included a usb 3 plug so you can use it for hard drive. It was working well with my 5.7k VR camera Vuze XR that i sold few month ago. I think it is a V90 class 10 uhs II or something like that. The fastest nearly you can get on sd cards. For faster you need a CF card. But i have no usage for more than 165MB/sec write speed and nearly 290MB/sec read. It is fast!!
I'll never understand why these kinds of cards are so expensive. How is it that a pcie 3 drive, which is around 10x faster than these drives, can still sell for a fraction of the price?
The 256GB version of the Kingston you talk about is 198.00 USD on Amazon's US site, it has 300MB/s read and 260MB/s write. The 500GB version of the Sk Hynix Gold P31 is 65.00 USD while offering read speeds of 3500MB/s and writes of 3200MB/s. So you get more than 10x the speed and double the storage for less than a third of the price *AND* the pcie drives are *FAR* more reliable. And we haven't even begun to talk about pcie 4, which is double the speeds of pcie 3.
It's not like the sd card technology is new, on the contrary, pcie is a much newer technology than sd cards, so what the hell gives? This just seems like exploitation by these camera manufacturers to me.
@@RondellKB I'm assuming it's a niche market. When you produce less you need to compensate for the cost a the machines/production and all logistics involved.
Got a lav recorder off Ebay & surprisingly it came with a micro sd (not mentioned) it appeared used but in good condition. It was lexar so after watching this i tested my recorder left it running for 3 or so hours & i had a 2nd recorder with a sandisk & the lexar one had a format error icon on. Granted i had all my features on but its a older tech. It was a cheap lexar card so ill give it that but still. That's enuff for me.
My V90 card does not allow XAVC SI 60fps in S&Q mode.
The only way to get around that is in normal movie mode at 60fps.
ALSO MAKE SURE YOUR COMPUTER CAN HANDLE THE CODECS.
MY INTEL CORE i7 does not support XAVC SI.
Man I got mad Lexar cards but haven't put alot of wear and tear on them as a rotate alot. I actually have Kodak branded V90 cards. They havent crapped out on me yet.
Been using Lexar for video and photography for years never had a problem. Don’t forget buy a few new prograde cards 256 gigs v90 dirt cheap
I use a lexar professional v60! With the a7iv and they work flawlessly. Btw you forgot to say that if you want to record in 100fps in 10bit 4:2:2 ( has to be in S&Q or maybe all-I which I will test as soon as I get my v90 cards) you actually need v60 cards, basically the only improvement over v30
You can record 100/120 fps in 10bit on the a7iv?
@@JackyLi yeah you can, at least in s&q. As i said I can’t try on all intra. XAVC S HD 10 bit 4:2:2
Ya the Lexar professional cards are great! Not sure why he’s having issues…
It's strange, because that 200mbps means 25MB/s. So a V60 card with a minimum rated write speed of 60MB/s it's fine, technically also a good V30 with its 30MB/s minimum for video recording can be used up to 200mbps. Usually btw it's better to choose memory listed on camera website for maximum compatibility.
@@nerdMike 200mbps reefers to write speed in the computer, v30 v60 v90 is continuous writing for video; that’s why the ratings are different
Thanks for this. Have a V30 card in mine at the moment.
Do V60 cards and up show any improvements with playback and starting/stopping recording on camera?
depending on what cards you use when stopping the camera the card takes ever so slightly longer to write onto the v30 card than the v60 card
Looking forward to buy A7IV, but I wandering one thing. The camera have two card slots, slot 1 can fit CFexpress, and slot 2 up to V90 card. My question is if I want to use slot 2 for picture and video back up of card in slot 1, what card can I use specifically when I record in highest bitrate video.
use the v90 cards. They record the highest codecs in the a7iv
Awesome video. So just to be clear, XAVC HS 4K is only in 24p and 60p right? There is no 30p?
Wow yea you're right I just checked my A7 IV. That's really weird. You can record 30p in both 4K S codec and 4K SI. I think it might be firmware bug.
Nice video, just wondering which Battery do you use for a 7iv???
I use a dummy battery attached to the v mount battery. otherwise the standard sony battery is what i use
I have two Lexar V60 256G cards. They worked smoothly with the BMPCC4K and now with the FX3 in the XAVC HS and XAVC S 4K 10bit 4: 2: 2 to 60fps and 200M ... so far. You scared me a little:) Cheers!
I too have several Lexar professional 256G and also 128G cards. I have been using them for 2 years with no worries at all. Been using them as well for several weeks in my a7Siii and not even a glitch. Maybe it’s because they are pricier and ‘professional’? Don’t see anyone else complaining so maybe it’s the climate in Australia?!! 😆
I also have been using Lexar 256GB v60 cards in the FX3 and A74. They work great lol. I feel like titling the video "Don't buy Lexar" was a little un-called for haha
I’m only using Lexar cards last seven years, and they are perfect for photos or videos. I even used my CX350 for ongoing live events, and the card was full, then switched to 2nd card. And not a single issue. He scared me too.
@@adamlora Totally!!
@@Pfagnan I just got my A7Siii comes with Sony V30 card. I couldn't film at 60f. May I know the Lexar 1800x will solve the problems?
Man these tips about A7IV are great👌...Keep em coming....👍
Yes more please and more in depth advanced too
Thanks! Will do!
Odd. Been using Lexar cards for years in all sorts of conditions and I've had not one failure. Had a couple SanDisk fail on me tho. I've go one Sony card since 2016 and it's still kicking! I only keep it as a back up these days tho as it's only v30.
I'm surprised to hear that. I have 4 Lexar 128gb v90, never had a problem with a7iv or a7siii. I hope I'll never will 😄. Kind regards
I have 6 Lexar 128 V60 cards bought at different times. I cycle the cards out for each shoot and even then this year I had 4 corruptions. Luckily I shoot redundant and mostly photos and all recovered. Never touching Lexar again
Ok this is the one comment I was looking for lol. I bought a lav recorder & it came with a 16gb lexar micro sdhc class 10 & I'm trying my hardest not to spend more money I've been going through a rabbit hole looking up lexar rants & I'm not gonna lie there alot of positive ppl in the comments but your describes the last what if I had in my head lol I guess I can spend another $13 sigh
the video is incomplete!!! you should also talk about the photography side, using the different cards you mention. will the burst speed be affected or the buffering...
Yes, I understand this. I'm a filmmaker. My channel is 90% video and 10% photo. I do touch base on buffer times and the benefits on cfexpress type a
I've just got my A7iv and setting up for video. I don't seem to have the same options as you under 'Rec Frame rate' I only have 25p or 50p while using XAVC S 4k. Not sure why the menu is different?
Go to the last menu item on the left and go to area/time and change the PAL option to NTSC.
Wow, that is a massive surprise for me as I use SanDisk for GoPro and DJI mini 3 Pro but I use 3 Lexar cards for my vlogs with Sony A7C and so far so good and don’t worry I don’t get offended 🤣 it’s just a card and a brand. But for me Lexar been superb and I defo need to check the other brands too. Cheers for this video 👍🏻
i use 2 v60 and 1 v90 128gb lexar cards with my fx3 and a7rV, no issues whatsoever. I have used Lexar cards since my nikon d700 days.
I have a lexar 64 Go V90 for 3 years now ; works perfectly better than my other ones !
I was like choqued how "bad" you are describing it!
Thank you for making this vedio
Thank you for watching
Did I understand right that v60 will not do all the format of the v30? So should I not buy the v60 and choose the v30 over it?
This is purely up to you. they seem to record exactly the same. the only difference would be photography buffer speed. sometimes when recording video it may take a little longer to write the files to the card when stopped recording
I have Lexar "32MB" thats 20 yrs old , still works.
Does s cinetone works on V30 card?
Your videos about the a7iv are great! It’s so annoying that we can’t edit raw files yet in Lightroom.. I know you shoot more video, but do you know a way around it.
I tried converting software, but editing jpegs feels like a crime..
I have never done it but apparently you can convert to tiff files and edit with them. Otherwise in sony software you can edit the raw files there
I use in 7m4 delking devices black work s well 👌
I respect you, bro. They’re worse than SanDisk. It lasts for a short time.
The video is incorrect regarding the info that you don't ever need CFexpress. In my A7 IV if I set in S&Q Rec frame rate to 24fps and Frame Rate to 60fps and File format to XAVC S-I 4k I get a warning that my V90 is not enough and I need CFexpress VPG200 or higher.
Yea there's some kind of firmware bug with S&Q mode on the camera. 4k60 S-I is 600mbps which is 75MB/s and well in spec for a v90 card. On my v30 card I can record 200mbps 4K S but it won't even let me record at 100mbps in S&Q mode lol. 4K60 S-I should work fine in normal recording mode on a v90 card.
@@gabriel101x Actually no, the 600mbps has to apply to the conformed 24fps footage. So in order to be able to output a 24fps 600mbps footage the camera has to record 60fps at 1500mbps
no mention of s&q needing v90 for 4k120.....
I only use Sony TOUGH cards, preferably the TOUGH G over M.
Why the g over the m?
The Kingston v90 sd cards are nice for 4k all-i
Kingston Canvas Select Plus V90 128g is a great deal.
@@frankfeng2701 Canvas Select are micro-sd right? You mean Canvas React?
Just picked up a pair of Kingston Canvas 128 V90 for my a7IV from Amazon for $94 each US. Saw one review that was positive and the price was good. Hoping they perform well as I've got return eligibility through March 14. If anyone has experience with this card please share your experience.
I hope they are good aswell. they are pretty good priced here. Got good experience with it so far??
@@markjaik Sofar working great.
I’ve been using the Kingston Canvas React Plus V90/128GB for my A7IV since the day it came out, works really well so far. Do have to agree, stay away from Lexar!
And these cards are pretty cheap. Here in Germany a 128GB Card costs 87€ + included Card Reader. (Kingston V90)
@@NotSure0815 You guys have good experience with it? In NLD its pretty cheap aswell, but I dont want to risk rebuying SD cards..
What is funny prograde is by the same guys that made Lexar.
ngl sandisk is just lovely and reliable
nice nice!!!
Hey guys a heads up for everyone
I own a sony a7iv and the SanDisk extreme V90 cards don't allow you to shoot in the XAVC S-i Codec neither does it allow you to shoot 120fps 24p
If you have a Sony a7iv or higher end sony cameras stay away from SanDisk Extreme. Hope this saves someone from a jam.
thanks for adding this
Sandisk and Adata person here!!!!
lol
i admit Sandisk quite expensive lol
I have never tried Adata cards. like them?
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema so far its best for price and been using it for 5 months
i'm shock much people on comment have same issue like what you tell us about Lexar SD Card
glad i didn't take Lexar card lol
Completely agree with this. Lexar has basically ruined my life haha. They are the worst. Always getting corrupted.
I use them a lot and never had an issue. Do your cards say ‘professional’ on them? Mine do and they are pricier. Curious…
Can you please advise if V30s would work on S&Q 120fps 4k @24 ?
V30 doesn’t work in S&Q
@@FaceLens Thanks. I will probably look for V60 and up. :)
@@JaganRana if you want to use the highest settings on the camera in S&Q mode then unfortunately you will need the CFEXPRESS type A card (but to be honest this is for professional work and not for everyone) so I recommend to get the V90 its still a bit expensive but it can work on 99% of all the settings (except the S&Q highest video quality option)
@@FaceLens thanks for the tip 👍
I've been using Lexar V60 cards with my A7iii and A7IV and it's been working flawlessly when it comes to photo taking. Funny enough, I bought a ProGrade one and it was so problematic, not formatting, and essentially completely died on me, so not a fan of ProGrade as it's been the only card to ever fail on me
Electronic devices have the potential to fail no matter how well they are made.
Totally agree, I own a Lexar XQD card and they are completely unreliable for card errors and physical durability.
Never had a problem with a Sandisk or Sony card.
Lexar should not be allowed to make cards haha
I see multiple commenters here saying they use Lexar and never had any issues with them. Sounds like you´re not handling them correctly.
I´d take this video with a grain of salt and still buy Lexar.
I got the z6 2 years back. And was disappointed as a long time Nikon shooter because Nikon was not trust worthy anymore. They got the z6ii which was better than the z6 in all ways. which they should have done in 1st go. I spent 18 thousands rupees for a damn 120 xqd.
NOW. IM SHIFTING TO SONY AND WILL NO LONGER LOOK BACK.
fabulous. which camera are you thinking of getting?
Great Info!
Friends don’t let friends buy Lexar
I stay with Sandisk and Kingston. Thanks for the warning about Lexar.
I had problems with Samsung and Adata cards.
Have a good day Jason!
ive never heard of kingston. thanks for sharing my bro
I’ve had no problems whatsoever with Lexar cards. I’ve used them in my A7 III, multiple DJI drones and now the A7 IV. Don’t listen to this.
@@moritzzoellner Me too! Always solid
My SanDisk fell into the drain...
Just bought a Lexar card yesterday *facepalm*
only cards ive ever had corrupt
I work with Lexar and I haven't had any problems, don't fool people
100% agree, Lexar is soooo bad , lost to many photos and corrupted videos because of this card. and yet Lexar put blame on Sony and any other camera with same issue. LOL
i think hes biased...had a bad one at some point or something. i used Lexar in my main camera and have no problem.
Three bad Lexar cards. The only 3 I’ve ever bought. So not keen as a professional to have failing cards
Have you already got hands on the KODAK V90 cards? Lexar is THE WORST! I've lost two or three cards for no reason in my beggining and i'm never trusting them again, the cards just die.
I haven't tried the kodak cards yet
Currently using Lexar for my shoots since I got my camera last year and haven’t had any problems. Should I still switch card brands? I’ve filmed at the highest settings in 4K & 1080 on my A7III and none of my files have ever been corrupted, but now I’m starting to worry since I’ve been wondering abt upgrading to the A7IV in the next couple of months. 👀
that is a tough choice. they just never have been reliable for me or others I know. But you may have gotten a good batch
Honestly.....I've been using Samsung EVO cards forever and they have never let me down
hey hey!!!!
Thanks mate! You just saved my money! Yesterday Lexar reduced the price by 37% for v90 cards. Now they cost $190 for 256GB. And I almost bought it. But an inner voice prompted me to first look at the reviews on CZcams :))
Оn Amazon, some complain about the low speed and the fact that after a few months the card died
I had my Lexar card corrupt in the middle of a photoshoot. Luckily I had my laptop and tether cable so I shot directly to my computer. Lexar is trash.
Clickbait waste of time. You say "Don't buy Lexar cards" and I'm waiting for you to explain WHY you should not buy Lexar.....I gave up after learning that you just went on and on about stuff that had nothing to do with the title.
Should be named - DON"T BUY LEXAR CARDS!!! hahaha
I am actually going to do that haha
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema LOL