Bill Walsh: A Football Life - The West Coast Offense
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- Former San Francisco 49ers head coach Bill Walsh highly popularized the idea of the "West Coast Offense". In this segment of "A Football Life: Bill Walsh" NFL Films documents the fight between the old-school NFL ground-and-pound and burgeoning West Coast offense.
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Bill Walsh was a boxer. That's why he was so obsessed with footwork. Anybody who knows boxing knows how important foot work is. So only a boxer could have ever innovated these idea into football. Thats also where beating them to the punch came from.
the annointed one he always had the speed bag at the training facility, and loved the fact that the players would try it and couldn’t do it as well as Bill could
For real?! I didn't that. Well, he did mention Marvin Hagler in this video, so it makes sense.
I've couldn't have said that anyway better
@@maniacmasturbator2411 I’m happy y’all taught me about bill walsh more. I’m a dolphin but these stories make me wana cry how we missed the GOLDEN ERA 🌞
@@cesarcanete3402 Yeah, I didn't know that either. I think it was Mohamed Ali who said "everyone has a plan, until you get hit in the face."
The fate of Cook is so sad. He passed on in 2012 in Cincinnati. Was destitute and living next door to a cafe with a very charitable owner. His story is tragic. One of "what could have been". It's a shame it seemed to come to light after he passed away. I really didn't want to be a downer, but to every football fan of every capacity: take a few minutes and learn about Greg Cook.
The ultimate what if
Corvette06USA This guy Greg Cook was the ORIGINAL JEFF GEORGE in the '70s 6-4 220 he had the ability to throw a ball any direction he wanted.
I'm a huge football fan and I had never heard of him until watching this video, then looking him it. Definitely someone who could have been a star with a long career.
Bill Walsh, Bill Parcels, Bill Belichick.
If you're coach is named Bill, you're in good hands.
You might as well include Bill Cower. Also coaches name Mike have been winners too; Shanahan, Holmgren, McCarthey, Tomlin, Ditka(when he was with Bears).
And Sean’s too..
@Councilman Les Wynan lmao
Bill O'Brien would like to challenge that statement.
Brian BILLick
This guy was an offensive genius, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Unfortunately he had to work for lowlifes like policy and Debartolo.
Bill Walsh, probably the only man more obsessed with feet than Rex Ryan
Damn
Very well played.
Robert Petrea chuck Noll talked about body position too
You god damn savage you!!! Lol
Rex can’t even choose the right QB
4:47
Lott: "I was like, really Bill?"
LMFAO
The Niners defense was always overlooked. Just take a look at where there defenses were ranked from 81-90.
so true.
Daniel Kelegian Exactly...People talk about finesse vs smashmouth...Well yes 49ers offense was finesse but they had tough defenses. Lott, Millen, Fred Dean, Hacksaw Reynolds among a few. Early 90's defenses were not good enough...then in 94 they got back to being elite.
yup...49ers had one of the best team defenses of the 1980's..last i checked, there's nothing "finesse" about having a great defense..
Daniel Kelegian oh you are so right my friends. I always ring my hands when all we hear about these niner teams is "WCO, WCO, WCO" but how about those defenses? They were great units. It's always that way though when a team has a Montana or a Brady. Another example of this is those great NE dynasty teams of the early 2000s. When those teams are discussed, Brady is #1 mention. But those teams won all those rings with GREAT defenses. Look at Brady's stats from that period...he didn't even throw for 4000 yds a season. Coincidentally, those were NEs most dominant teams.
For sure, but the offense made it a lot easier for them by consistently having huge leads
Those tapes are gold.
Timing and precision = perfection
I learned the footwork timing from Madden. Running west coast exclusively.
Bill Walsh is the greatest offensive mind in football history, period. It's pretty amazing and rare for someone to truly change the game like this. He was like 15 years ahead of everyone else schematically
The more interesting part is that he didn't invent the "west coast offense". Fran Tarkenton and the Giants were running that offense in the 60's and early 70's. NFL Films even did a special on that very thing admitting this fact.
Geron Fletcher No that would be the late great Don "Air" Coryell
NIKO SAMUELS Don Coryell never won a Super Bowl. Bill Walsh was an offensive genius who designed what is now known as the West Coast Offense while as a coach in Cincinnati.
Matthew Hollie Don Coryell was STILL the greater offensive mastermind Super Bowl ring or not the statistics & his impressive coaching tree bear that out.
NIKO SAMUELS Bill Walsh was the better coach who got there 49ers to 3 Super Bowls in his tenure as coach. Don Coryell only got 114 wins, 89 losses and 1 tie (Includes Regular Season and Postseason) to his name whole leading the Cardinals to 2 division titles and the Chargers to 3 division titles and 4 playoff appearances. And all of those appearances he choked. His coaching tree included a Super Bowl winning coach in Joe Gibbs.
Bill Walsh on the other hand has a solid 102-63-1 record under his belt, as well as 6 division titles, and three Super Bowls, all with the 49ers. And his coaching tree includes some Super Bowl Champions and great coaches. George Seifert, Mike Holmgren, Dennis Green, Ray Rhodes, Mike Shannahan, Andy Reid, Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, Gary Kubiak, Doug Pederson, they're all on Walsh's coaching tree because they are WINNERS.
Walsh is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for not only the three Super Bowls and and amazing coaching tree, but also for his offensive strategy and making the West Coast Offense more than just nickel and dime football. Coryell's offense is a copy of his mentor Sid Gillman's offense. It doesn't cut it. That's why he's not in the Hall of Fame.
Therefore, your argument is invalid.
That 1990 loss to the Giants was probably the most brutal loss in Niners history (yes more than the loss to the Ravens). They were so close to a 3-peat.
Jebuiz y'har I think the 90 loss was bill parcels battling it out with George seifert. In that NFC championship game. Lawrence Taylor caused that fumble and the giants took home the gold. Great game.
The worst loss I have ever experienced in my 40 plus years as a 49er fan
@@jamesd6390 L.T. recovered the fumble. He didn't cause it. Erik Howard, the Giants' nosetackle, caused it. Madden called it the greatest play by a nosetackle that he had ever seen.
optimus2g ahhh you are correct. My apologies. LT did recover it. I had to watch it again.
Wasn’t alive for that game but the Niners loss to Seattle in NFC championship was my worst experience even more so than the Ravens super bowl.
Like they say at the end, as much of a genius as Walsh was, as many countless thousands of hours he spent during his life perfecting his craft and his strategies, and as good of a roster of legends that he had like Rice and Montana, they still managed to score just 3 points in each of those 2 playoff losses to the Giants. I don't say that as a knock on Walsh, just pointing out how difficult it is to succeed at this level of football, even for guys who at times made it look easy.
VicInNocal exactly this era was tough
VHS GUY But still manage to win 4 Super Bowls in the 80s.
The Giants were the thorn on the Niners' side during the '80s. The Niners and Giants were the ultimate NFC rivalry during the '80s. They were like the Steelers and Raiders of the '70s. They were exact opposites who constantly battled each other in the regular season and the playoffs.
i mean it was a genius against another genius in belicheick who is also the greatest coach in his own right one mad man against another yea parcells waqs the head coach but bill belicheck designed the defense to beat him its the ultimate game of chess to masters of the craft.
@@cyrillesu Lol, the Giants seemed to become a thorn in the Patriots side in the 2000's, theyre like the party crashers
Brady for sure has this book lol
What’s so funny?
Walsh had the most success out of all the contemporaries that used his scheme. Obviously there has been huge success from those who used his method and it has largely grown in sophistication, however, I believe Walsh’s coaching and attention to details and fundamentals, made it the best. If you read his books he always talks mostly about footwork, drop backs, and rhythm. This is where he had everyone beat. When others use their time on expanding on the W.C.’s sophistication (including personal groupings and shotgun) Walsh kept on with the basics, mastered the basics, played under center (which had a lot to do with its success) and had Joe and Steve always go back to fundamentals (like keeping left knee flexed while throwing) and the drop backs. Joe and Steve even talk about it in this clip. It’s very underestimated and very important - a major reason for its multiple successes. It made for precision timing and decisiveness!
Greatest. Mind. Ever.Bill Walsh is awesome.
"West Coast Offense" was the name given to Sid Gillmans passing attack in the early 60's with the Los Angeles/San Diego Chargers. Although Walsh was greatly influenced by it he had made fundemental changes to where it was no longer the same thing. When a bay area journalist called his offense the West Coast Offense about a year after he took over Walsh was annoyed and said," Don't call it that. That is something completely different" But the name stuck despite what he wanted.
The Legend The Great Bill Walsh 49ers HC 1979-88 R.I.P 1931-2007 ‼️
Something that doesn't get mentioned here is the fact that the rules were changing to open up the passing game. Timing routes are a huge part of the West Coast offense. Prior to the rule changes, they were not really possible, as receivers could not be counted on to be in a certain spot, at a certain time, because DBs could mug them all the way down the field, and O-Lineman could only block with their forearms, not their hands, which gave the quarterback far less time to throw. The WCO was a genius philosophy, but the rules changes in the late 70s that opened up the passing game are what made it possible.
Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.
it's amazing it took them that long to figure out how to make the game better...that said, offensive lineman were blocking with their hands for a long time, but it was rarely penalized...
But a lot of the philosophies of the WCO was incorporated well before the rules changes in 1979. It still would have been successful whether they occurred or not.
Dennis Gadulka Have you watched football the last 20 years? You can't hit unless you do it softly, oh too hard hit softer!
WCO was made before the rule changes and it was ran in Cincy with Ken Anderson and he ran it quite well. Also you can trace back to 1957 with the days of Sid Gillmans vertical offense
God bless the genius and the best head coach in the history of football ever mr. Bill Walsh rest in peace!
@Damien Jones
never heard of such thing??
Happy birthday bill walsh 84 years young
All Hail Bill Walsh.
Thank you thank you. You can refer to me as your holiness the anime pope.
@@binkbonkbones3402 he wasn't talking to u idiot
6:10 what a run by Craig. Such a great concept that he created, it really was beautiful
Craigs high knee kick brutalized tacklers!
Why isn't Roger in the HoF?
Brilliant, coming up under Paul Brown, the original genius. You hear the words of Steve Young, a smart guy listening to a smart guy, and that's a formula for great success. I know times have changed, most QBs work out of the gun now, but I wonder why more teams don't use that short passing game.
Bill Walsh was a man ahead of his time!
Dat short passing game got me to high-school yo!
I idealized Walsh's concepts of offense. I coached football back in the 80s and designed an offense around what I could devise by watching video tapes of 49er games. I drew up 7 plays which when flipped left to right became 14 plays. These were the most effective I could come up with and simple enough for each offensive player to grasp without spending hours on end learning 100 complex plays. After all these were amateurs with 9 to 5 jobs. In our first game on the very first drive we drove down the field and scored a TD. The plays (and concept) worked. They worked so well, the team went 11-0, winning the championship the first year. The second year with the exact same plays, a few new players, the team went 10-1, losing in the championship game. I moved away from the area the next year and never went back to offensive coaching. I did coach on the defensive side, going 11-0 and winning the championship the first year and losing one game the next year; no championship was played that year. I moved away from football after losing my wife and family to divorce after those stressful years. I understand how the pressure of perfection can effect a person. It consumes your every waking thought and you're always waiting for the shoe to drop, so to speak. R.I.P Mr. Walsh, a true genius of the game.
God damn this was a good watch. Thank you for all of the work.
Footwork Footwork Footwork!! Great video, especialy the footage with the legendary Bill Parcells.
Amazing the West Coast is still being run today. 2020
What teams run it today?
@Jay Thompson i mean both offenses have west coast base concepts but are two very different variations of it chiefs is more to use the timing of the system on vertical routes and having the halfback to be more or less the primary read if the deep shot isn't there which is more of bill walsh's offense influence now blocking and the quaterbacks ability is what separtes he shanahan west coast offense relies on the running scheme and timing of blocks to open the run game and create holes for a running back with elite quickness can exploit
@Jay Thompson dont have to be a dick just was giving some in depth info
@@MakaveliRaiderYou watch football or what?
@@reivang7196 not that much.
He really paved the way for offenses today
I met Bill Walsh at Cattlemens steakhouse in Roseville CA back in the mid 90s when the 49ers used to have Training camp in Rocklin. Got his autograph on a menu haha
The one and only... with the greatest players ever... ❤️
Agreed Tom Brady.
2:49 where can’t I get that jacket? That shut clean
Well engineered offense.
Thank you very informational.
"I was like.....really Bill" xDDD
The West Coast Offense started in Cincinnati.
Yeah, plus Cincinnati is where it originated
The West Coast Offense started in Cincinnati and then Walsh goes to SF and gets to stick it to Cincinnati not once but twice in the SB!
John Unitas invented it. Bill Walsh named it.
Parcels calls it West Coast in a playoff interview....the rest is legend.
God Bless Bill,as a Native San Franciscan and a person who bleeds red and gold,I'm still distraught that he passed; to me and you can take this whoever you'd like the man is a diety
*however
+David Mazzini Deity*
+JaLomangino lol ,thanks,grammar has never been my strong suit,a God not a go who diets freequently
+David Mazzini *guy,it's this Samsung
I'll always be a Don Shula fan, but I agree Mr. Walsh was a genius. Maybe it helps that I'm a SF Giants fan from Mass. Been a fan since John Montefusco.
2:58 *ahem* "It- it's tertiary, Jerry. Tertiary."
Back when coaches looked sharp on the sidelines
Ya, now they look like they just got outta bed lol
greatest coach ever no question
1burnman Lombardi?
@@Raboon1062 Lombardi haha shit
Lombardi is the greatest coach it’s no contest
This is cool. Very interesting insights on their offense.
It should be called "The Ohio River Offense".
RIP Bill 49er fans are forever FAITHFULL to you ❤💛❤💛
I love stuff like this. The footwork. 1-2-3 throw. God is in the details. 😎
A true class act
"Defenses couldn't respond..."
I'd argue the Giants defense of that era "responded" pretty well.
Dennis Williams
Yep. Parcells' defenses were game planned defenses. That 3-4 they ran was a beast. Had the 86 Giants played the Bears that year?! OH MY GOD,the Bears probably would've repeated as Super Bowl Champions
Matt Beeman
Yep.I think the 86 Bears ran a 4-3 Over front with some 46 sprinkled in after Buddy Ryan left to coach Philadelphia. Both the Bears & Giants finished 14-2 that season & I think the Bears had the #1 defense while the Giants had the #2 best defense
Matt Beeman
Found the defensive team stats from the 86 season:
Bears #1 total, #2 vs.pass & vs.the run #16 in points allowed
The Giants #2 total, #19 vs.the Pass #1 vs.the run #21 points allowed
Craig Smith II the 1986-87 Chicago Bears were #1 in points allowed not #16 giving up a then NFL single 16 game season record of only 187 points (since surpassed by the 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens defense which still holds the current record of allowing only 165 points in a 16 game regular season).
Those Giants defenses held the 49ers to 6 points total in the playoffs in 85-86. From 1984-1986 they met 5 times including the playoffs, SF scored a total of 3 points total in the 2nd half of those games
1:24 I have seen this Jim Lynch tackle so many times, but never knew the significance
A real coach
Al Davis actually was one of the pioneers of the precursors of the West Coast Offense- Al just called it the Vertical Game... Spreading the field vertically. He allowed Daryle LaMonica to sling it for the Raiders in the late 60s/early 70s. Then Ken Stabler and Plunket did it before the Niners ever won their first lombardi.
Completely different and unrelated offenses. Vertical game was typified by the bomb and deep passing to stretch vertically. West Coast offense is based on shorter passes that spread the field horizontally, relying on run after the catch and long drives.
Both great offenses but very very different
DangeRoss is correct. You look at the vertical game it was all downfield long passes. The West Coast was used, if you watched this, as a necessity because Virgil Carter could not go vertical so they used small pass plays that eventually would get the yards but also mess with defensive timing because the passes came out so quick. But you did bring up the word "precursors" which is fitting because of small passing plays it set up LaMonica to throw those bombs.
Not true. Davis liked long passes and quick scores, that's why he chose Lamonica as his quarterback. He never liked Stabler as a quarterback because his didn't have a strong arm.
Guillermo Sanchez I said "precursor". Of course it's not the same.
Bill Walsh worked for the Raiders in 1966 as the running backs coach and credited Davis for many innovations. Davis made sure to have scramble drill rules and how a play would develop late when it breaks down. Nobody else was doing that. The game changes slowly over the years, but sitting here in 2017, it is easy to look back and simplify ideas.
I'm a Cowboy fan ... But I always liked Bill Walsh ... He was a great coach HOF 💫
if i was a coach i would run west coast offense and wing t but i hate the spread offense.
The timing of your feet Steve.. I am Like What?? LOL RIP Coach... you were a genius of football.
His real genius came in the 1981 playoff game against the Giants. While Lawrence Taylor was wreaking havoc on defence Walsh said "why not block Taylor with 2 more blockers". Leave the RB in pass protection and chip Taylor" Taylor was a non factor literally the whole game.
We should of won more Super Bowls in the 80's AND 90's. We would be chasing 8 or 9 right now.
So why didn’t YOU? Did you not give it your all?
@@TL2354 Injury's, trades, blown calls, etc... Why you automatically think its not giving it your all? That kind of assuming dumb none thought out suggestion is what gets you a smart ass remark like "your just being a hater". Come with something else besides hate.
@@mfl8276 and yet y’all have 5
And the last two we went to that we lost damn we would have a lot😂
Small things make big things happen
Niner fan all the way! Bill Walsh, Chuck Knoll, Vince Lombardi, Don Shula the big 4 Head coaches of the early days!
❤️ My 9ers!
The most exciting football ever.
49ers need to watch this!
Shanahan seems a lot like Walsh.
Is This Rain? Mike or Kyle
Steve L Kyle cuz he’s the coach for the Niners now lol
Loved Bill Walsh but Parcells/Belichick Was his kryptonite especially in the meadowlands
Johnny Unitas was one of the main inventors of the west coast offense look him up and the influence he had on coaches and players
Your right. He absolutely did . Walsh saw it as an assistant in Cinncy and named it. Ask Tom Matte he will fight you over it.
@Damien Jones True but young Unitas was not a west coaster yet. Older post Eubank was when his deep ball went cold yes. Him and Don McCafferty came up with the scheme now called west coast offense. Ask any Baltimore Colt still alive who played with him. It's true. Short passes.3 step and two step drops and heavy on the tight end finding the seam in zone coverages.
@Damien Jones The west coast was originally Baltimore's 2 minute offense devised by Don McCafferty and Unitas. As Unitas skills grew weak as he aged it became the main offense in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Ask Tom Matte. Ask Danny Sullivan Ernie Accorsi Dick Sysmanski Lenny Moore ask anyone alive from the 1968- 1971 Baltimore Colts. Shula didn't invent it it was the genius of Unitas and Don McCaffery. Ask Mcafferys son he's still alive. Bill Walsh was Bengals assistant and got beat by it in the 1970 playoffs. Lmao
Your right ! I saw it all go down in Baltimore as a youngster. Tom Matte tells the truth nothing against Walsh but he stole it. Its a copycat league to this day
The true goat 🐐 coach 🙏💕🏈
A must watch for football fans
Paul Brown mentioned to other teams that he didn't think that Bill Walsh could handle the ups and downs of being a Head Coach in the NFL. Never assume or underestimate anyone
4:55 Man, I got Aaron Rodgers vibes with that little shovel pass. Good times!!!
we talked about, my footwork and he said...look if you'll just follow the directions, and the footwork that goes with each pass pattern, I can tell you the timing for when to deliver the football and to who on your feet.
and I'm like, what???
lmao Steve young.
Walsh was a genius and shrewd.
GOAT!!
Alot more complex than i thought "Footwork"
I may be a Pittsburgh steelers fan.from Pittsburgh.but the best QB .ever was joe montana
And Joe was from PA.
wolfmanrick Tom Brady. Period.
I'm a Steelers fan, and Bradshaw ain't even in the top five
I will disagree because of this-if you put Steve Young or Joe Montana in the NFL today, and both of them are in their prime, they thrive. You put Brady in the NFL of the '80's, where you could still beat the shit out of the QB and get away with it, Brady lasts 3 years, maybe 4. Also keep in mind that Montana never turned the ball over in an SB. He also never intentionally grounded the ball on the first play of the game, which then leads to a safety. Remember the SB in Indy? Just a few thoughts from a Packers fan and neutral observer.
whatever , you're just saying that because joe was from western PA..
This is totally not relevant but if the 49ers and North Face teamed up again and made the jacket pictured in 2:49 i would buy it in a heart beat
Walsh would have loved Garappolo
Great coaches change the game, of football.
When I talk about footwork to noobie 49er Fans, I always use the quote from Ronnie Lott, which ends in "I was like Really Bill" ??? LOL
49ers forever ❤❤❤
While cowboys and niners rivalry was THE rivalry in the game of football. I really enjoyed the giants-niners rivalry.
If only Bill saw Madden nowadays...
This made me laugh so hard watching clowns play Madden in such a godawful fashion hahaha.
Gotta remember this: if I ever for some reason decide to hold up a gas station or some such, and the police are waiting with their guns as I come out, I should freeze, smile and say, "Officer, it was just a bit of gamesmanship."
God damn joe took a shot
Walsh was a genius.
By my count more super bowls have been won by teams running an offense with roots back to the Air Coryell system than the so called West Coast Offense. 1981,1987/1991 Redskins. 1992,1993.1995 Cowboys. 1999 St Louis Rams. 2006 Colts.2007 Saints,2008 Steelers, 2015/2017 Patriots. Actually the 2007 record setting offense 16-0 patriots also used it,but they fell short. The GSOT was a tweaked and very robust version of Air Coryell and both the Colts and Patriots installed their versions of it.
1999 Rams were all about the West coast offense...They had the dual threat RB in Faulk and Wrs in Bruce and Holt that specialized in running after the catch.
@@michaeldelfino1800 False. Mike Martz learned the Air Coryell directly from Ernie Zampese & Norv Turner both disciples of the late great Don Coryell.
@Michael Delfino Also in the Air Coryell offense running backs such as Terry Metcalf of the St.Louis Cardinals, Lydell Mitchell, Mike Thomas, the late great Chuck Muncie, James Brooks, Gary Anderson, & finally Lionel Little Train James who had 1,000 yards receiving during the 1985-86 season for the #1 ranked Air Coryell San Diego Chargers offensive juggernaut in both points & yards joined Roger Craig that same season Marshall Faulk of the '99 Rams as the only running backs in NFL single season history to record 1,000 yards receiving. The dual threat running back wasn't just sole province of the Bill Walsh misnamed West Coast offense as running backs such as Charley Taylor, Lenny Moore, Bobby Mitchell of the Baltimore Colts & Washington Redskins who all 3 were converted to wide receivers later in their respective careers, Marcus Allen of the Los Angeles Raiders, Chuck Foreman of the Minnesota Vikings, Wilbert Montgomery of the Philadelphia Eagles, Paul Hornung of the Green Bay Packers, Jim Kiick, Tony Nathan of the 1970's & 1980's Don Shula Miami Dolphins, & Preston Pearson & Tony Dorsett of the 1970's & 1980's Tom Landry Dallas Cowboys were all dual threat running backs long before Bill Walsh, George Seifert, Roger Craig, Ricky Watters & the misnamed West Coast offense came to San Francisco in 1979 ijs🤷🏾♂️.
I want to see more West Coast in college football
Virgil Carter was the original Joe Montana
"I can tell you when and where to throw the ball based on your feet". "What?"
West Coast Offense my foot. Everybody was too jealous to call it by its real name, the Bill Walsh offense. In that first Super Bowl year the 49ers used what they called "the long handoff" because they didn't have a good running game.
Montana getting hit at the end was brutal ..
That wasn't even the worst hit from the giants he got
best offense ever, look at some of the teams, that are undefeated.
new england is the perfect example of the west coast offense
Not even close
corey thomas nope they achieve similar things but they actually use the “east coast offense” from the video, the Earnhardt Perkins offense. Giants, Pats, Saints, Texans and other Parcells/Belichick-related teams
corey thomas they use elements of the WCO, like most teams do. The pats also use elements of the run and shoot
Smash mouth vs finesse?
Has anyone seen the 49ers defense? Ronnie Lott is just one name of many greats
I love to hear Bill Parcels bitch about the headsets. Walsh knew not to trust Parcels and his defensive coordinator Bill Belichick. He made them start the game by calling plays and not stealing them. Advantage: Walsh. He was always a little paranoid about other teams spying. Before the Super Bowl in '88 he stopped a team practice and pulled his team off of the practice field because a helicopter kept hovering above the field.
What the heck are you talking about? 1985 was Belichick's first year was a DC. He was virtually an unknown. He didn't have a reputation of anything. He didn't do anything really impressive until the 1990 SB game plan against the Bills.
Are you bringing him up just to make the Giants sound shady? Because it was Walsh and the 9ers who were gaming the system with questionably legal practices. Their phones suddenly stopped working giving them an advantage over New York, who was forced to stop using their phones. Unfair advantage to Walsh. I really think you brought Belichick up as a red herring to make the Giants seem like the bad guys.
Questionable legal practices? Would opening the tunnels in the end zones of The Meadowlands stadium to create a jet stream to effect the visiting team's ability to throw the ball in the red zone or kick a field goal fall under the definition of " questionable legal practices"? What is more of an advantage? You can still coach a defense without using phones for the first 10-15 plays of the game, regardless of what you think is or isn't a conspiracy. Deliberately creating a disadvantage that effects only the visiting team in crucial situations is more of an unfair advantage. Your mother has a red herring for a week every month. Get the fuck outta here.
Okay, I referring to this incident since you were the one complaining about it. Walsh gamed the system. Parcells called him out. You said Parcells was "bitching" about it.
How is that any different from you complaining about the field goal gust.
Obviously having a scripted set of opening plays is a huge advantage for the 9ers if the Giants defense isn't able to properly communicate. Surely you admit that, yes?
There's not one side of innocent victims and one side of evil villains. They both gained advantages through gamesmanship. But you're the one who decided to call one of them out as "bitching". Don't be a hypocrite.
And please keep it civil. There's no faster way to make yourself look like an ass than to act like a fourth grader during an argument.
49ers doing illegal blocks for years...and you accuse the Giants of being shady. The Giants didn't need to cheat...they beat the 49ers ...66-6 in those two playoff games.
Willie Boag
Belichick also did the game plan to stop The Greatest Show On Turf against the Rams in the Super Bowl by running a Bump & Run Nickel package
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That offense to replace runs with short and midrange passing is brilliant. It still had the idea of long drives like a 'smash mouth' approach. These pass heavy offenses after the 99 rams are just garbage. They put too much pressure on the defense. It's not even feast or famine cause a quick score still hurts their own defense
Every coach who has so much success be like “YOUR FEET HAVE TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS!”
So Joe Montana was a product of Bill Walsh he was a system player...
I'm kidding, but that's how you idiots sound when you call Brady a product or system QB. EVERY QB IS A SYSTEM QB. Joe and Tom just have amazing football minds that they took the system their in or were in and made it even better.
Ummm? Manning
Nicholas Pfarner manning played in the same system basically his whole career except his final year when he was trash
absolutely wrong. you just can't assume because he had a pretty bad seaskn doesn't mean he wasn't in a different system. manning never really had his own system he learned the in and outs of the current system he was in and he did this each time he got a new coach and he eventually was creating the offensive game plan and terminology with the coaches. his rookie season although not the best statistically he sat down with his coaches to revamp the system while most quarteebacks struggle to just learn the system. he truly was a student of the game and when your a student of the game for 30+ years and remember everything every coach taught you then your going to be able to tell your coach and offensive coordinator how to beat certain coverages, run against certain fronts, protection from the blitz. after mannings 2011 injury his right tricep never fully recover because I'm pretty sure he had damage in his nerves but his arm strength was never the same and as a result he learned to compensate by getting a stronger core and legs and instead of trying to out gun the defense he just tried to control the ball with more timing routes and plays that would open coverages up such as four very against cover looks. manning in his early years was very interesting to watch because his play action game was so good I've seen move the entire back 7 defenders with a playfake and as a result of the linebackers and even ty law biting so hard down on the fake manning would throw to a wide open Marvin Harrison or Austin collie who was a beast at the time. I'm not saying Brady is dumb but if he were to instantly get a new offensive coordinator I highly doubt he would have learned it fully like the way manning did. I knowbbrady could do it but manning did it so good he would look at it anytime he could even when he was in the hottub letting his body relax after his workout.
Nicholas Pfarner Brady had different coordinators as well not as much as manning. Sure the different coaches had different terminology but the core system was the same.
I trust in Kyle to lead the team for that 6th ring Feb 2.2020
Too bad. I lost a decent amount of money on that game
Man i so wish there was a time flop where Bill walsh vs bill belicheck
David Ruelas Sort of was. Belichick was Parcells O Coordinator
@@thepunditspundit1776 you mean d coordinator
David Ruelas Yes, my bad
@@thepunditspundit1776 no problem
It would be cool to see someone run the full west coast offense today. No shotgun even needed lol