Primitive BowHunting Bison. The Secrets and Science of Primitive Archery
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- The Secrets and Science of Primitive Archery is an in-depth, 423 page book about the entire primitive archery system. Contextual bows, arrows, stone points and natural materials strings come together and are used in actual hunting application. The Primitive Bison hunt, is just one cog in the wheel of this extensive project which closes the loop on the practicality of early archery systems.
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Amazing video, you have inspired me to hunt primitive. I will be targeting rabbit this year with stone arrows and then I want to kill a deer in a year or two.
Nice man
I love your channel man you make some great content
awesome, I am really glad to hear that. Best of luck hunting!
I am subscribed to your channel and look forward to each video. When you take your first deer with a bow, firearm hunting will loose some of its appeal. I have been taking deer with a bow in Minnetrista, and Plymouth for over 50 years.
@@NORTH02 He shot trap on our team at Watertown. He shot a 25 on his 80th Birthday two or three years ago. Are you a member at the Mtka. Sportsmen?
Great video.
And I agree it's sad you probably really needed to give that lecture on perspective at the end for so many people who seem to forget what hunting is, and why and how it was done. Ultimately hunting is about survival of the fittest, and we are the fittest because we have successfully hunted for thousands of years.
I think I'd much prefer dying by being pierced by multiple arrows rather than being torn apart by carnivorous predators.
And that is what real nature is. Absolutely brutal.
thanks very much. I think it's just time to start giving people that perspective since so many people are disconnected from nature and think there are little deer families that live in little deer houses and love each other for 60 years
100% agreed. I will go even further: the predator (coyote or human) actually makes life BETTER for the prey (bison, deer, etc). It just turns out that wild animals with no predators mostly all die by processes that incur much longer periods of suffering (either starvation and/or disease). If you just take away predation, any animal species will quickly reproduce to a point were available resources (food) start limiting their population growth. Any wild animal species in such a case scenario (population stable) are in a position in which 1 animal dies on average for each newborn, and therefore the pouplation as a whole is bound to be suffering of an enormous "hunger stress" for almost all individuals. That is the true reality of a overly fantasized wild animal life without predation. In a healthy ecosystem without prey population decline, extant predators are guaranteed to be helping aleviate the hunger stress that the envyronment poses on individuals. Councious hunters that know and respect this fact by hunting animals of non-threated populations are definitely doing more good overall to animal welfare than harm, even if individual animals are killed in the process. That is just the way nature works.
Your channel is always putting out top tier content this is a hidden gem on CZcams can’t wait to get my hands on your new book
Thank you very much. I greatly appreciate that.
@@huntprimitive9918 you’re welcome brother keep up the good work I’m looking forward to the next video.
Thank you for all your time, lessons, and devotion Ryan. Your tireless persuit keeps life interesting for many. Keep hunting...
Thank you for the kind words and for following along!
One of my zoo work friends said, years ago, "Nature is cruel, rapacious and unforgiving, with every species working relentlessly for the extinction of every other species that it competes with. Bambie grew up to fight, breed and die. Marvelous video.
yes, without a doubt! thank you very much
Damn what an amazing video and experiment with the lighter grain arrows. So so thankful for this! Can’t wait to read the book!
Awesome video and hunt. My Father taught us that as long as the animal is in range and alive, keep putting another arrow or bullet in to to kill it the quickest and most humanly possible. He and I have seen many a deer get up and run away, gone forever from someone who shot it once and let it run off or dropped it and watch it later get up and disappear too many times.
yup, I understand that perfectly. I truly expected this to be a 1-2 shot ordeal based on other experiences. We were all pretty amazed even after having a few other bison under our belt. It was a tough one for sure but nothing else to do in this situation but keep after it until the job is done
Thank you for your hard work, ethics, and public education. Rock on!
much appreciated. thanks for following along!
Absolutely brilliant Ryan, keeping it real as always. Thanks for all the hard work you've put in to document this & thanks for your generosity in sharing your findings 😀🙏🙏💪👍👊
Thank you very much, and thanks for following along both here and on Instagram. Nice seeing you around
@@huntprimitive9918 Ryan, your book arrived today. It is excellent.
Can't wait to get my hands on this book
Makes me want to go hunting! I'm not proficient enough with a bow yet, so will be sticking with my rifle till then. But your videos are really inspiring and make me want to get out there with a bow, so thank you!
Really enjoying the honesty of experience, and the cooperative efforts. I am of the mind that solo "Manly" "trophy" hunting is a fairly aristocratic/modern invention, and that the community/brotherhood experience is far more ingrained in humanity as a food gathering exercise.
As for the "pincushion" thing; I have personally witnessed smallish/medium Bison & Elk take multiple lung shots from modern rifles, and simply refuse to accept it. Like you said, it is (very) rare, but it does happen, and losing sight of the genuine, very real event of participating in life to feed your clan is easy, and the truth of what we are doing, gets lost in the static of modern life & our disconnection from "How the sausage is made" so to speak.
Keep on doing the things brother.
thanks very much for the well thought out response. much appreciated
Your book arrived today, Ryan, thank you. It is excellent. There is nothing like it anywhere. You should be able to sell lots of copies, because it covers the practical aspects of hunting with primitive archery. No one else does this. Sitting by the fire right now reading through the rest of it.
Hello from Australia 🇦🇺, I only just came across your channel. I must say I couldn’t be more impressed with a hunting channel! I’ve been absolutely hooked for the last couple of days going back and watching. I’ve written down the book tittles and will be getting. Thanks for the time and efforts put in to making and getting these videos out. I have hours to watch but as a longbow hunter it’s all time well spent. Awesome!
[Memo] First video watched on this channel. Subbed 07.05.2023.
I thought it was a very good hunt actually showing what primitive man would have had to have done in order to survive. And the data collected is priceless and if shtf happens and we run out of bullets this information again is priceless. So good job, excellent video and thanks for the video. Y'all have a great day and stay safe and here is where I usually say keep your powder dry, I don't think that fits here so maybe rosin up your bow? Well you get it anyway. Thanks again!
Thanks Terry. Thanks for following along and glad you enjoyed it!
This was an impressive hunt! Thanks for taking us along. I'm looking forward to the bison butchering video.
thanks very much. It's edited and ready to go at 9pm tuesday. It ought to be a good one
Ppl always think life’s a Disney movie, the truth is the closer we live to the earth the more we realize, if you utilize and respect everything nature provides you will live and love in abundance. As native ppl we believe the earth is our mother brings us to life, never disrespect or abuse your mothers kindness
So you've basically just written the encyclopedia of primitive hunting. Nice!
that's definitely the hope! and in a couple years I hope to add another hundred or more pages
Great video, Ryan!
Something worth mentioning to those people who have limited experience with real life animal harvesting is the fact that, if the first shot isn't immediately fatal , subsequent shots, which each may have been immediately fatal had they happened first, can be seemingly absorbed by the animal with little effect, I suspect it is a function of adrenaline or something, I've seen it happen many times, having worked in a slaughterhouse as well as being a lifelong hunter.
This video is reality. You have my utmost respect for showing it!
Yet another amazing video. With my limited mobility you're making it possible to see and (as much as possible) experience things I'd never be able to. Thank you.
thank you very much Craig
Favorite Chanel on CZcams ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks Austin, I appreciate it
I've been so looking forward to seeing this book come to completion. Very good job Ryan, cant wait to read it..
thank you very much
I'm glad you collect this data. It should really be submitted to a larger database so that other states realize that "Primitive Hunting" isn't just throwing sticks and rocks at a living thing - it's an actual viable hunting method. Here in NJ we are not aloud to even attempt to hunt with primitive equipment at least when it comes to what arrows & tips you are using...Even if it was a special license or something. People have bad hunting experiences & failed harvests with modern gear.
There have been a couple people that have used my videos to get state laws changed, so hopefully if folks take this book and highlight important sections and make their case, it might get voted in in more states
Always a good day when you upload
thank you !
This is fantastic! Thanks for sharing Everything You've learned with us.
thanks much and thanks for following along!
Amazing content! bought the book and can't wait until I finish my bow and go hunting with your points!
thanks very much. Best of luck on your hunts!
Wow can’t wait to get the book!
Man what you do is absolutely amazing work! You are an inspiration of a modern day cave man
Thank you very much!
Great video! Can’t wait to see the quartering!!
thanks very much. It's all ready to go live This Tuesday at 9pm also. It ought to be a good one for those not too squeamish
Great disclaimer up front. Nothing but respect from me. Big fan of all your stuff and getting ready to try knapping
Thanks very much! I appreciate you following along with my channel for so long
I took a big cow in Wyoming with a 45-70 Sharps that took 3 shots ,all center lung broadside the whole time she was in open range and visible .It took 45 min ,all shots within 1.5 inches of each other but she took all those shots and remained on her feet she traveled a total of about 600 yards from the first shot . They can take a tremendous amount of punishment . Great video
great information there. thanks very much!
great video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Just ordered the book! Love your work
excellent, thanks very much. Hope you enjoy it!
Very very cool! Putting in an order soon!
thanks very much
just came across your channel. I'm moving to Alaska next year and hope to get on a few hunts that are not around down here in WV. you gained a subscriber.
Awesome hunt! Looking forward to reading the book, and seeing the bison butchered with stone tools.
Thanks. I think that video will likely be more entertaining and useful in the long run than this one!
Thanks Ryan. As a hunter, you always want to kill an animal as quickly as possible. But like you said, nature isn't so kind. They could starve to death over weeks. At the end of the day, dying isn't nice. We all have to do it in the end, I myself would rather be stuck by arrows than be eaten while still alive and awake. Life isn't a storybook. Thanks again for your videos.
much appreciated. Thanks for following along. Happy hunting
Excellent video ryan! I plan on ordering the book soon
thanks man, I appreciate it. Good luck this year
Awesome video and amazing contribution
Can’t wait for the book or your next video
Thank you very much!
Really great informative project, thank you so much for your work.
thank you!
Another Incredible video!! Keep up the data collection!! We no longer sit around the fire with our tribe and learn what works and what doesn't!! Some of your "commenters" wouldn't have survived to adulthood!!
Thank you very much David
I just get your book and start and its awesome.
Thanks for the video 👍 Australian.
Amazing. Just amazing. You’re doing good work bro.
thanks man, I appreciate it
Bison are tough. Like you, I've seen every high caliber rifle and cartridge type used on them, and I have only ever seen one that dropped from a single shot. Managed to get it on film luckily because nobody would've believed it otherwise. They're just that tough.
Yeah they are just super tough. One guy was adamant that we wouldn't be able to kill one with the atlatl because he's seen them take a lot of arrows
@@huntprimitive9918 The atlatl kill was impressive. Can you even imagine a mammoth? I gotta think they used the terrain for that. Edges of river deltas, swamps etc. Muddy sticky places.
Excellent video, can’t imagine what you could do on a trip to Africa! I’ll definitely have to grab a copy of this book, seems to be the primitive version of the Ashby studies if not far more expansive. Thank you for sharing Ryan, God bless. 👍🏹
thanks much. I have often thought about africa but I am so far removed from it that I wouldn't know what to expect going into an african hunt. I actually talk about Dr. Ashby's work in the book because its both good information and relevant in some cases, but out of context with stone projectiles. I tried really hard to distinguish between the 2 studies
look at that arrow grouping at 23:00! I can’t even do that good on a paper target. Nice
Ola sou do brazil e gosto muito dos seus videos
thank you very much for following along
Great video
It's how the equipment preforms.as it would have thousands of years ago .cool
Man cant wait for the next video on this bison hunt & also the book! This was super fascinating, educational & really eye opening to get a small glimpse into what it might have been like for the first nations people hunting the same animals in similar ways. What is the draw weight on that bow used in this hunt? Surprised how well the bow & arrows did using that type of material for bow string and a lighter arrow with smaller stone points. I would love to see you do similar videos/content with elk, moose, black bear, collard peckerie/ skunk pigs & then even like smaller game rabbits, squirrel, beaver, wood chuck documenting the same data points.
thanks very much. This bow is about 61# @ 24" . In the book we actually have a whole chapter with close 30 deer/hog kills that are documented in a very similar way so you'll definitely enjoy that.
Nice hunt and good information
thanks Lance, much appreciated
Cara incrível você é o melhor no arco e flecha primitivo
thank you very much
Great job as usual 👍👍🇺🇸
thank you very much
Good video.
So Educated, Thanks Hope This Channel Can Survive, And Making Another Amazing Content 🙏👍
thanks very much. I think we'll be alright because I lean towards the educational side of things so thus far CZcams has been lenient towards me.... the next video coming on tuesday will likely get me slapped on the hand though because it's a full breakdown of the bison with stone tools
So Excited For Tuesday Thanks 🔥
im a handgun hunter and i would love to try something like this but i do know what i have would be totally ineffective against something that large. this was a very interesting video and its amazing how much it takes to bring something that large down
thanks very much. Yeah you would probably have to shoot it a few times with solids... but I bet a 45lc or 44 mag would do just fine overall
Ayy new vid!
Excellent informative video!
I'm curious though,, would a larger point have yielded quicker results? Or would the penetration have been less because of the greater diameter of the shaft/point junction?
Great Video. I use primitive equipment except stone points
thanks very much. Best of luck hunting!
What are the relevant specs of the bow and arrow?
Draw weight, draw length, arrow grain, weight of the Broadhead?
And what is the avg arrow speed at release?
Just placed my order, and first!
Yep, its been documented that indians turned their buffalo into pincushions. Its gotta lose a lot of blood before it expires, and the best way for us to do that was lots of holes
Thanks very much!. Yeah they are just unbelievably resilient
My all time favorite video of yours is you killing that bison with atlatl, that still amazes me.
Does Roy Miller, knapper from Ohio still set up and sell flint at the knap-in there in Florida?
Hey Ryan, I love your videos and can't wait to get my hands on your book, I have watched every one of your videos for the past year and a half. I noticed that when you shoot you have your bow almost horizontal, is there a reason for that? I would love to know as it is almost turkey hunting season here where I am so i am wondering if I should shoot horizontal too.
It's just my shooting style and how I lean into it. It's just a natural stance for me and nothing intentional. Shoot however you feel most comfortable. Good luck hunting!
Man you got beautiful bows but for that price I have to pass. Thanks for the uploads missed ya on yt. You are one of my favorites 🍻
thanks much for following along
Loved your vid, wish I had skills like that. I love to bow hunt. What is the draw weight of this bow?
Man imagine any other creature taking like three arrows and still being able to run
yeah they are just crazy tough. Out of all the animals I have shot over the years, this one was by far the toughest
Love this video, thanks for sharing! Where can I find you book?
thanks very much. There is a link to the book in the description, or you can find it on www.huntprimitive.com there is a link on the home page as well
Woot!
Thanks for the vid, this more than any of your other videos has me chomping to get out for a hunt. I could just about feel being out there and smell the animal.
I tried to order your book, but there's no option for international shipping. WHat are the odds of getting one sent to Australia? Plus a few a few other things.
Hi there. There is an option for an email PDF or if you want to shoot me your address I can get you a shipping quote to send to Australia. There are some places we can't ship to but so far Australia is still good. 👍
@@kellygill6255 no
No worries, Kelly is my wife. She handles all the office stuff and international quotes
Amezing video sir
Please make an video on flintlock birdshot loads and hunt . thanks 😊
that's actually something I probably will do at some point. I don't film as much with the flintlock anymore, but making powder and shot for a video is likely going to happen
Sad for the suffering caused by not hitting a large blood vessel in the lung on first try but this way you got a lot more data.
I guess I will never hunt something as big as a bison but a hog or a dear I'm willing to give it my best shot.
Yes. Well a lighter arrow will fly faster and speed adds to impact energy and penetration.
i think i counted 3-4 arrows and at the end of the video before the bison died i seen a arrow stuck out the backside of the animal what the hell happened there..seems the animal was shot while running ?
I explained those in the video... just inconsequential hits due to particular scenarios... but it's in the video and explained well in the book as well
When I click ad to cart on your page it won’t actually put it in my cart
Not sure why that would be other than a generic glitch between computers. If you shoot an Email to huntprimitive@gmail.com Kelly in the office will get you squared away, thank you
Ever see what Tim wells did to a troop of baboon with a blowgun? Better go check it out, it's undeniable proof that arrows hurt much less than perceived.
One of the craziest videos to ever be out on the internet.
Just like the Atl-atl hunt Ryan did!!!!
no i haven't seen it. thank you very much
Subsistence hunters in the past maybe didn't care too much if an animal died in 10 minutes or 2 hours. If they knew they had landed a killing shot would they bother breaking more arrows in it just to get it on the ground faster or just sit down and have a snack while they wait, possibly even carefully chase the wounded/dying animal into a convenient place for butchery and then leave it in peace until it goes down?
Should’ve done it plains indian style on horseback. Be pretty hard to ride through all that brush. When the plains indians did it with a bow they would aim for the diaphragm and with a spear they would aim for the liver.
I believe that Woodsland Bison were in Florida, not the Plains Bison. Hope that someday we can have wild Woodsland Bison to eat.
It is actually the opposite. The Wood Bison (Bison bison athabascae) ranged up in northern North America, from Alaska over into the Northwest Territories, British Columbia, and Alberta, with a small leg going down into northern Idaho or Montana. That's as far south as they got.
The Plains Bison (Bison bison bison) overlapped up into Canada, but were the bison which spread through much of the contigual United States North American land mass, including down into the Florida panhandle.
In a search engine you could try writing, "bison range map".
@@josephnebeker7976 Thanks, I will do that.
@@josephnebeker7976 I’ve always thought, because I read about it years ago that in the Appalachia and smoky mountains, like WV and Tennessee that we had the woods bison. Also, I thought they were extinct. Learn a lot from the comment sections lol, thanks guys, I’m going to go do some googling about Buffalo
I understand it must be difficult to get a better film angle, but i wish you could have gotten a better angle on the action so we could see what you saw as it was happening.
Sometimes we get great angles and sometimes it doesn't work out. Normally lately I have been using a gopro so we tend to get more in line shots. I wanted to be able to totally focus on the shot rather than also a camera so we went with oldschool filming. I wished we could have gotten some better views, it was just really thick around there and the bison were surprisingly very spooky so we had to keep well hidden. But in the end, the data collection and also the total breakdown with stone tools were more important to me overall than the kills shots. Maybe next time we will get some clearer shots
First comment! 😁
When do you go on History channel Alone?
I am not a big fan of TV shows and their many behind the scenes restrictions, plus it's way too hard to close down the shop for that long when so many customers rely on me to get their gear built and shipped. I don't foresee any TV in my future unless I am a producer... but never say never
The only real free range, fair chase bison hunt was an Oglala, Lakota, or Cheyenne on horseback with a lance or bow. Otherwise, enjoy bison where we can find them and make no apologies
They hunted bison for at least 13,000 years before the Spanish reintroduced the horse to the Americas, and for the first half of that, they didn’t have the bow and arrow. I’d say the toughest free range hunting was on foot with atlatl.
@@shanek6582 or with a spear and driving over cliffs
In light of possible ww3 these skills might come in handy, lol.
No this would be for WW4
As much it is “entertaining” it makes me a bit hungry to think on the meat when cooked.
It’s still good to hunt for the animal and thank the animal for your feast. I would even use the hide for a coat.
Such good steaks too. I wanted a younger one like this because I knew the meat would be epic. I think I got him about a year before he started getting rank
@@huntprimitive9918 hey did you make an account that was made 2 days ago?
@@Texo_McKevo That is a scammers account. I reported it. you can as well if you would like. thank you
@@huntprimitive9918 same here
@@huntprimitive9918 I already have
The arrow flight on the pig was terrible
It hit that palm frond.. but it sure still killed it.
Yea. Maybe watch ranch fairy if you need data bud.
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Субтитры на русском языке!?!?!? Почему нету?!?!?!
I hate that you have to explain reality. Thanks
This is barbaric compared to a 30-06, but I guess that’s what you’re going for 😑
I guess you didn't watch the video to the end.
28:45 bub.
@@josephnebeker7976 bunch of BS rationalizations. “I’ve seen it take multiple rifle shots to take down a bison” is anecdotal DRIVEL. Growing up I never understood why people hated hippies so much. Now I sure do.
@@veteranironoutdoors8320 meaningless anecdotal hippy drivel. Inhumane 100%. Your hippy virtue signaling doesn’t change that. This is 100% ego-driven:
So, you're saying you took a bison down with a 30-6 in one shot, didn't cause the animal any pain, and were "humane" about it?
Actually you are the one spouting the nonsensical drivel. Go do some research. It's not easy to take a bison down, period. If you're so worried about being humane, don't hunt at all. But don't go condemning other people just because you don't like it. That's not your right.
This is monstrous and should be outlawed. All of your rationalizations for hunting this way are fucking NONSENSE
Not really concerned with your thoughts on it. Why even watch or comment if you don't like it? That's really the only thing that's nonsense. I was pretty clear in the video that it was open to do with the data what you want. If you don't want to do it, that's fine... what do you want me to do?" apologize to you...lol?? I'd do it again tomorrow no questions asked because the data we got was invaluable regardless of how you feel about it... also I'd like you to know that in a survival situation.. I would eat someone like you first.
Haha go sit down snowflake, go look at how you get majority of your meat at the market.