Scaler 2 + Melody Sauce 2 = NEXT LEVEL!
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In this video tutorial, Joshua Casper shows you the insane power of combing Scaler 2 by Plugin Boutique with Melody Sauce 2 by EVAbeat. Make your chord progression and bass line with Scaler 2 and endless melodies for them with Melody Sauce 2.
Along the way you will learn about Scaler 2 chord progressions, bassline creator, routing Scaler 2 to an external instrument, Melody Sauce 2's new features, routing Melody Sauce 2 to an external instrument, and a review of Melody Suace 2's key features.
About Melody Sauce 2 by EVAbeat - The Future of Melody Creation
Please Note: This is the full version of Melody Sauce 2. There is also an upgrade option for those who already own Melody Sauce 1. If you have purchased Melody Sauce 1 on or after 28th February 2022, please contact support@pluginboutique.com with proof of your Melody 1 purchase (e.g. a screenshot image of your order invoice receipt) to receive a FREE upgrade.
Melody Sauce 2 is your new must-have music production assistant. This supercharged upgrade is a massive overhaul of the original version, with a set of powerful new features to inspire you and your music making.
Now a complete melody creation tool with a new Sound Engine of nearly 100 sounds and 3 built-in FX so you can hear melodies straight out of the box using internal instruments, with no need to route MIDI to other instruments.
New Style Mode with over 300 style settings, create melodies by genre for Hip Hop, Trap, EDM, House & Techno, Pop, Reggaeton, and R&B.
New Advanced Editor lets you select specific chords for your melodies to follow, and make detailed edits to your melodies bar by bar.
A host of additional controls including more options for loop length, octave, speed, and more targeted output with the new 'Extra' buttons.
A new fully resizable and redesigned UI.
Improved algorithms, powered by EVAbeat's AI-powered Phrase Builder EngineTM.
Now compatible with all major DAWs, including those that don't allow MIDI routing like Reason, Maschine 2, MPC Beats, and Garageband.
Melody Sauce 2
If you've ever struggled to come up with melody ideas or needed some melodic inspiration in your music-making, Melody Sauce 2 will speed up your workflow with an unlimited and instant supply of unique, high-quality melodies created for you in a few clicks.
Melody Sauce 2’s simple interface helps you create MIDI melodies in your DAW using the internal Sound Engine and FX, or by easily connecting to any software instrument. Simply drag and drop your MIDI melodies inside your DAW or work on them further using the new Advanced Editor section.
None of the melodies are pre-programmed, they are created for you based on the parameters you control using complex algorithms that are capable of creating a near-endless supply of melodic ideas.
And you don’t need in-depth music theory knowledge to get the best out of Melody Sauce, just your ears.
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The Advanced Editor needs an option to control the length of the chords. It would be nice to have diminished, augmented, suspended and extended chords as well.
Just FYI... 8vb in the harmonize section stands for Octave Below. 8va is Octave Above. It's a lot more common to see 8va in sheet music, so 8vb is generally less known by musicians.
I use Scaler 2 with Remidi 2 and I'm just about purchasing FluidChords, they both communicate with Scaler. Here the process is simpler, since the softwares work together but don't communicate. Melody Sauce 2 has many less chords than Scaler, so it can't follow the most advanced chord progressions in Scaler, but I understand that we can use it for the simpler duties. There's many "melody makers" out there, finally I chose to purchase RD Melodya and use it with Scaler in the same way as you show here, with more freedom than Melody Sauce (I like Melodya's theoretical approach to melodies, similar to what Scaler does to harmony). Melodya's interface is old and funny, but I find it powerful enough and instructive.
Thanks man for your suggestions!!!!
These two plugins work as a fantastic combo to come up with chords, melodies, basslines. I just tried it after watching your video and it worked like a dream!. Thank you!
Next, design a voice activated interpreter that can follow verbal instruct sets and with exacting results, as verbal instruction sets can be very individualized like as if a word becomes a entire formula, or gradients thereof on demand depending on the additional words used when asking it.
Just like a real person, and less vulcan so it understands things such as slang and lingo plus regular english. A a.i. that is a high definition thesaurus interpreter that can use verbally activated commands.
The digital musical interface of tomorrow..tomorrow..tomorro..tomorr..etc.
And addons to that could include types of personalities that the a.i. works within a framework of perspective. So you could even replicate serious arguments and debates just like in real bands, that has resulted in producing good results even further than when surrounded by only yes type people.
@@truetech4158 interesting concept of things get pushed to the limits during arguments in music... how does a bedroom producer do it then?
@@AI-Consultant What i described, was a solution for individual musicians/songwriters to collaborate with a.i. during the process of writing songs.
The ability to select from databases built up of already existing artists works, and by using that along with your own realtime input you would seem to be jamming improv with famous musicians or styles thereof.
Band in a box sort of does this, but it could really be improved upon with such databases and realtime improv abilities based on what it would hear.
Keep on rocking as you roll.
Already running Remidi2 into Scaler. Can't wait for this!
Would be nice to get sequencer inside melody sauce 2 to edit notes you want change. Grid based
I think you can just record it to a midi track and then edit how you want
why not just use Scaler 2 for the melody?
Intellectually I am fascinated by all this AI in music and want to explore it more, but conversely as a human musician I have a growing sense of unease that we as people are slowly being eased out of this realm of human creativity. The human instrument virtuoso could fade into oblivion. Computers now beat us at chess and now soon music production?What’s the point of learning any instrument or music theory when if not now, soon, AI will best us? Will we be reduced to being like a DJ pushing a button for prerecorded sequences, until that too is bettered by a machine? I think this is where we are heading.
Thanks for the explanations of the different buttons, etc. I was a bit in the dark with MS2 but now I see some light coming!
Glad to hear it!! - JC
Bought Melody Sauce 2 from your video! Never heard of it till now.
Why do "MIDI Chord Pack" ads still persist in bugging my YT viewing when technology like this exists????
'cos they're the only ones who offer "Pro Level Chords", lolol....Scaler only has "chords". I need something that has "Pro Level Words" to help me with lyrics....🤣🤣
@@BaileyJim11 Ahhhh! That’s where I’ve been going wrong all these years!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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This is way better than ai generative stuff specially if you are song writing as well as build pro level stuff with a basic idea
@@BaileyJim11if they printed that on the cover of a Thesaurus, they'd sell more 😂
This is an amazing era to make MUSIC
We agree!! And, it's only going to get better :) - JC
@@PluginBoutiqueOfficial Soooo many options to be expressive!
@@Aliengroover 🤘🤘
School is better
Wow there's an awfull lot of dislike in here for this sort of music making, I as a newbie to music and much older find these kinds of tools helpful, specially since I don't have good sense of rythem. I already have scaler so might have to look at this combo. This is pretty awesome stuff.
Anyone coming through the ads and stuck being addicted to it 😎 awesome really superb
Thanks for the video. I love scaler but tbh the integration possibility of ms2 hasn't convinced me - at least for my purposes
This was really helpful, I appreciate the tutorial. Currently I'm using Melody Sauce with Orb Producer Chords but it's the same logic. Awesome video man.
Hello, I was just wondering how to make it work. I hope you can make a tutorial! 🙂
Oh wow Joshua Casper. I was literally mentioning this dynamic duo of awesome plugins to my buddies 4 days ago and then your video drops. Get out of my head Joshua...it is dangerous in there...Hahaa. Love that your team is still willing to suggest plugins that may have some functionality overlap with Scaler 2. You and your team are always bringing such awesomeness to the table!
That was properly amazing! And I loved the final piece!
Game changer for me, already got it, but thank you for showing us how to do it. Thank you for Sublab update. 😄
I have both and I will Watch this !!!
The best example I've seen. thanks for the showcase
Yall need to buy Eva beats and integrated ms into scaler 3 and add a sequencer grip too like instachord 2 but have one that adjusts to scales so one that's chord notes only then one for scale notes only so we can do chords and generate a melody that we can also adjust to the scale of selected chords. This tool is amazing when I'm working and can't set up my midi controller but need to write
is there a midi drag for the melodies?
bof bof bof... I bought Melody Sauce, some melodies are successful if you don't go off the beaten track of harmony. On the other hand, as soon as a progression contains complicated chords, the plugin is at a loss and the advanced chord editing offers very little latitude. The import of a progression in midi is not proposed either, so it is not at all the ideal companion of the Scaler plugin (which I use) as it is praised here. The Captain Epic suite offers much more flexibility (midi import, pattern editing) and its Captain Melody module does not fare so badly compared to Melody Sauce. Disappointed then...
Très inspirant, belle mélodie . Merci
Amazing mate, thx to the Plugin Boutique team.
Let's develop a serious a.i. interpreter for song writing that can bring much to the table for people as creative editors.
A songwriting teamplayer that is digital yet not mechanical sounding unless asked to be.
Templates could be based off different artists and their individual approaches, saved as databases. These can also work in conjunction with other templates of other artists, similar to how the travelling wilburys brought each of their own unique writing styles into the studio.
There is alot of musicians styles. All these could essentially collaborate in a digital form.
I was running scalar2 into a guitar VST. The guitar VST comes with a bunch of strumming and picking patterns that can strum or pick out the notes of whatever scalar2 produces, and i fuel that with a jamstik studio MPE midi2 enabled guitar. Just picked up a older mint condition ableton push, and want to feed that finger drumming and use the ableton push for guitar solos on the fly, and to accent the notes i make with the guitar surface controller at the same time, and with foot controllers. Midi mindscaping or whatever amazing new catch phrase word.
MPE is where it's at, if you want to overcome the mechanical feel of midi recorded tracks generally have due to their lacking of elements that MPE brings to the table of note elements. You want those.
Learned a lot from this tutorial 👍🙏🏿🙏✨🎵🎩😊
Glad to hear that! - JC
you guys rock!! 🔥🔥🦾
very good app here , the melody is indeed cohesive and musical. nice review !
I’d have liked to see the swing in action. Every melody seemed very static like a kid hitting a glokenspiel. There’s a real lack of “complex” in the complex. Barely a passing note.
I mean, couldn't you just figure out what you like, drag the midi in your daw, then Qw/swing?🤷🏾♂️
@@coldskoolbeatz Agree with Cold Skool, same goes for passing notes and such. Someone even familiar with terms like that should have no problem adding spice to whatever MS2 cooks up
QUESTION: Scaler 2 has a crazy amount of keys/scales ie. Dorian, Lydian etc. How would you create melodies to those, I noticed those aren't in Melody Sauce. Any info would be appreciated, I'm looking to purchase both thanks!!
This can be done. It's a little complicated, but might be worth a video as I find the question interesting. Thanks for asking :)
I would say that's when YOU come in. Get your chords, Generate a melody that has a vibe you like then drag the midi in. Adjust the notes from there to match your chords and that sounds good to your ears. These are great tools but we still want to hear your creativity flow through.
I love Ezkeys2 more than everything about midi generators.
Thx for Your video! I am a Scaler user and look for a plugin that creates melodies. But the genres listed for Melody Sauce are not "my style". I am more into Rock, Pop, Folk... I like those melodies. Is Melody Sauce something for me or should I try something different (Melody's...)?
yes u can make memories, but making catchy things takes more efforts and some understanding of theory
Hey, talk to the Melody Sauce dev team, and see can scaler 2, and melody sauce plays together more, to make it official.
5:50 "Absolutey phenomenal". I'm sure Mozart is jealous... What a cr.p. 🤣🤣🤣
The melodies from melody sauce sound a bit random to me. But that's not a bad thing. With randomness comes greatness, at least sometimes.
Its basically a randomizer that stays in key. Something most DAWs already have and is built into the MPC OS which I personally use. Seems like this plugin doesnt offer much.
btw check out the scaler 2 + re midi 2 video.. remidi 2 kills melody sauce 2 for creating melodies.
Sound terrible to me. Not musical in any way and as Retr0Gz said before just random notes that stay in key...
Hello! If I understand correctly, we just use the same key and route the midi signals to one layer? Doesn't it work so that the melody picks up the current chords, like for example with the ujam guitarist program? So I mean, without the scaler, melody sauce would play exactly the same sounds?
Cool thing is, afterwards you can say you created something.
Not for everybody or for different uses.
Producers want a result and these productivity tools are nice for them.
Composers want to be the original creators, may be it could be an inspiration for them, not a result.
Hi there. I'm confused about the Melody sauce 2 pricing. On Eva website it's $59.00, On Plugin Boutique it's $39.00. So which is it.
the final result here is generic and clumsy - but that's mostly due to the chosen I-V-IV progression... make that AI work harder dammit! it can indeed do wonders and lead you where you wouldn't go yourself :)
lol find me a tutorial where the result is actually good
I just bought the plugin in plugin boutique. I have a question. Why Melody Sauce 2 doesn't show in "all channels" slot? I only see "Post FX" and PreFX. I did what you did in the video but The plugin doesn't show
Free or comes with scalar 2 ?
Can you drag/drop MIDI from Melody Sauce 2 to DAW?
Yes!
This plugin does not follow in 3/4 time. Only follows in 4/4 and 2/4. This plugin is not entirely useful. I'm very disappointed!😒
So how you put that midi note into the Daw for further editing? Thanks
You can drag and drop them from both plugins or record the MIDI into a MIDI channel in your DAW. :)
스케일러2 다운로드한 다음 더블클릭하여 설치 진행이 안됩니다. 문제를 어떻게 해결하나요?
How are you using both plug-ins cohesively? I’m a Logic Pro user and I wanted to know how you set up this combo which was super dope.
1. Add the chords from Scaler into the chord section in Melody Sauce
2. Click 'Chord Adjust' in Melody Sauce so that it only generates melodies that conform to the chords you brought in from Scaler.
This plugin is a midi effect in Logic
@@truthknox3432 Really? What effect? let me know been using logic 10 years.
Whats the Drums ?
Make them yourself?
Anyone else not getting melodies that are in the time signature for your song?
Can someone explain how I can change the length of a chords, f.e. playing one chord only half a bar and the next 1& a half?
I have the same question, were you able to get an answer?
If I have the first melody sauce and I want melody sauce 2, do I just need to update it?
Greetings!
Yes. You would need to upgrade. You can check that out here - www.pluginboutique.com/product/3-Studio-Tools/93-Music-Theory-Tools/8878-Melody-Sauce-2-Upgrade-From-Melody-Sauce-1
So wait, is the melody randomly generated? Or are you playing it with a pad or midi controller?
Can you output Melody Sauce 2 into Scaler 2.7 so you can alter what Melody Sauce is playing?
You sure can. Check Key-Locking - JC
Scaler 2 and Melody sauce 2 y’all need to work together and make something.
Is melody Sauce2 free when i have melody Sauce 1
No. But, it's not a big price to upgrade. Here is the offer - JC _ www.pluginboutique.com/product/3-Studio-Tools/93-Music-Theory-Tools/8878-Melody-Sauce-2-Upgrade-From-Melody-Sauce-1
What the beat machine ypu are using?
I am using drum loops from loopcloud.com :) - JC
Frustrating that cinematic, fantasy styles aren't part of this. Not sure why it's all edm, house, r&b stuff. Otherwise I'd buy it.
Hello Nick. Good news!! Scaler 2 has a number of chord sets for cinematic and classical styles, among many other variations as well as chord sets from composers who work exclusively in cinema. I hope that helps change your mind :) - JC
@@PluginBoutiqueOfficial Thank you, JC. It would be awesome if there was a 'reshuffle' chords button for the themes, because if I wanted help composing a travel RPG theme I might pick 'Journeying" but there's only one chord set for that (I mean I understand I have the ability to play around with it). The same is true for 'Movie Theme' there is only one 'Fantasy" chord set to choose. So just an idea, being able to choose one theme and then reshuffle for different results would be great. I don't know who are the cinematic composers and who are not, but that route sounds good, any chance you could reply with a list of them and I'll check them out?
"UrBAn"
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Hmmm. Looks interesting.
A drag of a demo. Put me to sleep. Locked in on a ridiculously slow tempo and super simplistic sounding 'melody' (ha!). Nothing is shown that would indicate this software can make interesting melodies, and no other genre was demonstrated.
melody SUS 😳😳😳😳😳😳📮📮📮📮
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The music industry has been killed by streaming why do guys persist on creating these sweet plugins.
しゃべり多過ぎ
早く実演してくれ
just press the button and let the computer make music and perform and collect money for you. you just chill and eat until oblivion. humans are worse. computers forever!
Was the Melody Sauce 2 developed for mentally challenged people or just for the ones who are completely deprived of any musical talents?
Can be useful for getting some inspiration to start a track.
This is the biggest joke ever
Toy music... so non-musicians can call themselves such... great for elevators and dr. offices though...