Silicone mat vs gel plate!
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2022
- An experiment with a silicone mat as a monoprinting surface vs the usual gel plate surface that I always use. It yields interesting but disappointing results as you will see!
Blickcrylic paint, Artist's Loft acrylics
Blick watercolor paper (medium weight)
Somerset English paper
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This print gave me the idea to use my Silpat silicone mat for cookie baking! I had so much fun. Love the process. Thanks so much.
When gel or other may is sticking to the paper, it's often easier to turn it upside down and gently curl the mat away from the paper. Amazing huge print!!
I have been using a remnant from the silicone sleeve from my husbands prosthetic leg and it works fantastic
Hello Fulton, I had wondered how a silicone mat would work. Thanks for showing us. Also, beautiful ghost print. Another idea I found when I searched, “alternatives to Gelli plates”, was to use a smooth, garden kneeling pad from a discount store. I haven’t gotten one yet, but thought I’d mention it. Thank you for calming, meditative, informative and very creative videos. ❤
I just got a silicone mat for printing. My idea was to put a piece of old yoga mat under the silicone mat to add cushiony effect.
great idea! Let me know how it works out in the comments!
Good idea!
Excellent idea. Also maybe those spongy play mats.
I think that you can try the silicon mat on the other side... the sticky part is the trick, you will be surprise!
Maybe the plate needs conditioning with mineral oil. Loved the print on the silicon matt. It had a wonderful quality.
Such interesting experiments! And wonderful prints too.
What a GREAT video!
Thanks for taking the time to do the comparison. I think if you want to do another comparison video between the gel plate and the sicilon, next time use a sicilon banking sheet, the kind you'd use to line a cookie sheet.
It's more rubbery and pliable and has more "give".
Thanks for sharing 👍
Will do, I bake and have always wanted one 🙂
That ghost print you pulled is beautiful. It reminds me of old Chinese landscape paintings that use black on tan colors.
Do you think that tan background in the pieces of art you refer to may have been rendered on Burberry paper or even raw rice paper? I love the calligraphy-type effects Asian art reveals with papers and other substrates used since antiquity.
ps resin and paint skins comes off the slicone mat ( and are useable as collarge in paintings or jewellery) resin and paints come off transparent sheets A4 A3 size
those rubber mats and craft foam both also come off
ya welcome ✌️👍
Well, you have me going through my kitchen for a silicone mat....can't wait to find one to try our your "new process".
Thanks for sharing… especially love the gel plate print.🙂
Very nice to see your experiments. Love the textures you achieved. I plan to try using a cushiony type knee Matt (used for gardening that you kneel on for comfort) that I found at the dollar store. It has a smooth side so I’m hoping it works.
Thank you for posting your experiment. I enjoyed watching you assemble your collage.
Thanks for watching!
Always good to experiment in order to grow.
I really like the organic look of the 1st print you made on the silicone mat, it’s even more random than the gel plate, cool! Boy that paper really grabbed that gel plate but it was very deep and beautiful!💕🇨🇦
Marvelous video.
Love the idea of shapes and layers.
This is great! I have the very same silicone mat. I was about to invest in a gelli plate but, I think I’ll try this first. Thank you!
No way! Great idea!
Interesting experiment. In your collage I really like the effect from the brayer roll-off sheet.
Glad I stumbled on this video bc I was wondering if silicone would work. I didn't hate the pull from the mat though. It had some great texture. Looking forward to going through your videos. TFS!
I've finally found my ppl on CZcams! I don't make prints but love to create and now might have to add a gel plate to my arsenal 😅 I'm glad i found your channel
Go for it!
I do like your first try with silicon mat. Thank you for sharing your experience.
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How amazing and what a great idea.
Thanks so much!
Thank you.
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Interesting video and it answered my question, thanks.
The final piece looked great!
Cheers!
Thank you! Cheers!
Your first print made me think of birch tree texture.
Do you change the speed of your videos before you upload them to make them longer? I ask because I don’t always have time to watch a 30:00 video, so I changed the speed of this one to 1.5 faster than normal and it’s perfect for impatient viewers like me! Your voice doesn’t drag, there are no really lengthy pauses and the video is reduced to about 15 minutes. Wish I had thought of it sooner.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO.... NOW i KNOW !! Love and Peace to you.
Thanks Precious, loved this comparison. Silicone mat still offered interesting texture. Gelli final piece is gorgeous! 🥰
Thank you! 🤗
This was cool. Thanks!
I Enjoyed the video it is very informative 👍🏼🤩, thank you ! If you turn your silicone matt over & use the shiny side I have heard that it works a little better than the Matt side for this technique, although I really liked the images that you pulled from it. As the Matt side definitely achieved a cool look what with the grainy textures ect. I don’t think you can beat a gelli plate but it is always good to have other ways to add interest to pieces & a silicone Matt is a very handy & versatile item to have, they really come in so handy. 😊
I have used the shiny side and it is much more successful! I am going to be running a holiday school program for 20 children and the silicone mat will be a great alternative without the fear of destroying such an expensive resource (particularly in New Zealand).
es genial que transmitas tus experimentos pictóricos, creo que es fantástico para que no cometamos los mismos errores, o por el contrario aprovecharlos es un trabajo estupendo de investigación, siempre son fenomenales... gracias
Gracias por mirar!
@@artwhisperer88 siempre miro lo que es interesante gracias por tus proyectos
The famous "what if.."of an artist. I think the greatest difference between the two plates is that the silliconemat does not have the mineral oil in it that takes care of the fact that the paint is sort of rejected off the surface somewhat and can be picked up . Nice experiment.
I only use self-made silicone sheets. SOR B with a hardness of 15. I put glycerin in the paint for the sake of lamination.
Silicone is a persnickety animal sometimes. especially Platinum when curing. Mention even the word Latex under your breath in the same room and it might decide not to cure lol. *I've heard a patcher for Immortal Masks couldn't get her patches to stick, they traced it down to her makeup inhibiting the stuff. As a general rule, nothing sticks to silicone, except more/other silicone. I'm really surprised you were able to spread the paint as great as you did, as most acrylics will just more or less bead up on silicone. The more runny craft paints sure do. But, a silicone mat, if it's what you have, can still get some background printed paper for collage so there is that. You could also try off loading your brayers onto that mat, if you have a place it can sit while the paints and stuff you put onto it can dry. Even last paint dregs slightly watered and mixed/swirled in patterns (scribbles lol) to make acrylic skins. They should peal right off. Might wanna test that tho on a small corner of that mat before committing to a large area lol. Then you can cut or tear those for collage elements. They should glue down with MP with no problem. In a pinch I've even used freezer paper over cardboard and a piece of flat packaging styrofoam for some printed papers. It's all good lol :)
Thanks for the tip! Yes silicone is unpredictable! I'll stick to my gel plate for now!
@ChristineARose I love how you multipurpose freezer paper like I do wax paper and plastic wrap.
IF YOU USE FOAM UNDER SILICON?
BEAUTIFUL PRINT USING GELLI!
VERY INTERESTING PATERN WITH SILICON.
Fascinating Processes👌‼️♥️ I love your Narrative 👌‼️. I love your Interaction with the Art-Work. 👌‼️Thank You for Sharing Allll of Above, and Endless Possibilities. 🤲🙏🎁Toom@CapeTown
Awesome...... thanks
Thank you for being so explorative! I prefer the gelli plate but it’s good learning!
That 2nd print is really beautiful.
Thanks so much!
I LOVE both of these--I think better than gelli-plate TYFS
Love your video my first time could you show more what you do to your prints to make the pop. Love what you did on the last one. Thanks👍
I was disappointed that you didn't try the glossy side of the silicone mat to see if it would give you a more satisfying result. You didn't show the original print that you pulled from the silicone long enough for us to evaluate it, but it seemed to have some nice dendritic patterning all over it. I would have liked a longer look.
Also, one feature of commercial gel plates is that they never dry out. which is why paint will not stick to them. They are also completely synthetic and not made with organic materials like homemade gel plates which is why they last so long and homemade plates eventually get moldy.
Thanks for you insight Paul! I was quite pessimistic about this experiment as I know its hard to beat the qualities of a well manufactured gel plate. The dendritic textures of the silicone sheet print can serve as collage elements in another artwork, so it won't go to waste.
@@artwhisperer88 In my own work using collage, I've found that trying to collage thick papers is difficult. Personally, I think it will make a great background for one of your layered prints. And if you think getting colors down on top of it might be difficult you can print the areas in a lighter opaque color first and then without changing the plate or placement of your stencils reprint your desired color on top of the lighter opaque areas you just put down. Your registration system is good enough to do that with pretty good accuracy which is another technique I have enjoyed in your videos.
@@paulfoote7869 Thanks Paul.
You can replay the video as many times as you want or pause it if you didn’t get a long enough view!
I love you ideas how to add designs to your print it makes it pop please show more of what you do with your prints. 👍
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Would you not get a better print by using a simple printing baran? You can pick a simple plastic one of traditional bamboo padded one I favour for a few ££..If your using acrylic paint why not lightly mist water over your second layer of ink when reusing the first print & it should stop the paper sticking like this.If using acrylics it's best working quicker or with a bit of regarding medium to slow the drying down & keeping the paint ' open' to be able to inscribe into to take a print..Only time I.let my ink really dry off is when using oil based block printing ink & I definitely use a baran or burnish with the back of a big spoon to get more definition to my print ! There's no right or wrong way to work of course ...I' m 55 & have been printing since the late 70 ' s & experiment with low tech art techniques recycling household objects to create print s or backgrounds to paint over xx
I like the misting with water idea, will try that! I'm not a fan of barens, I like to feel the plate underneath my hands, that's just me. Thanks for watching!
nice work.
haha thats exactly what i was going to say ! lol but i also use those rubber floor mats that can click together plus craft foam and the mats make good embossing plates you just draw designs stamp or stomp txtures into them on the not txturefd side of the mats the craft fome can take a reausable design on one side and smooth for cheap guys smooth gel plate transparent A4 sheets work too but need a yoga mat or craft foam sheets :)👍🍻
Gelli is Rolls Royce surface for a reason.
The alternative surface experiment is interesting.
I have seen an interesting CZcams project using agar agar, a type of seaweed alternative to gelatine that made a sensitive home made gelli plate and less in need of refrigeration than gelatine base.
It takes quite a bit of effort, especially to get a smooth top surface.
Many would prefer a set and forget commercial gelli, I suspect.
Art pauvre finds its ways.
Gel medium transfer to get the photocopy on the surface minus the white paper? Really enjoy the prints results!!
Interest video thank you.
I have a vinyl squishy place mat that creates great monoprints.
Might play with placing silicone mat on top to see if I get some of the yummy texture you got.
Love this experiment, would you please try the silicone mat on top of the gel plate, I love the texture you got from the silicone mat.. wonderful idea 😊
Hi dude I love your print I love your new wallpaper lol lol you are a awesome artist guy I love your videos 😀😀😴😴😴😴😴
Hi mate!
@@artwhisperer88 😀
I would have used the slick side of the mat.
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It would have been nice to see you use the same quality and size paper in both to see the exact difference
With all due respect, I don't see the point in doing that. A gelli plate is specifically designed and manufactured as a printing tool. It is far superior to a silicone sheet, which is really meant to be a liner for your work table. If you can afford a gelli plate you should buy it instead of making do with a silicone sheet. The purpose of my video is to provide low cost alternatives, not substitutions.
Hey Fulton, what would happen if you used the silicone mat over the gel plate.? Then you might get the springiness. Might he worth a try.
Great idea! I was wondering if you tried the shiny side of the silicone mat?
Enjoyed your video found it interesting and informative what paper did you choose to use in this video it sounded a bit like mix media paper.?also what color did you use beside black as i really find the other color beautiful...
this was a student grade watercolor paper from dickblick.com. The beige color is unbleached titanium.
I like it! Are those the same mats that can be used for baking?
this particular one does not indicate it being heat safe, (it's el cheapo) but I'm sure a silicone baking sheet will do fine imho.
I thought you were going to use the cushy side of the silicone mat (opposite of the one you used). That side seems more like the gelli plate to me!
there is actually no comparison. A gelli plate is FAR superior as a printing surface!
@@artwhisperer88 I agree!
You used the silicone mat on the wrong side. The transfers go on the slick shiny side. The ink will release better.
thanks for the advice! For now the silicone mat belongs in the kitchen, it is no match for the gelli plate.
Hi Fulton, love the ghost print. What size are your large gelli plates
www.dickblick.com/items/gelli-arts-printing-plate-16-x-20-/
Great experiment. I wonder where did you get a gelli plate at that size? Is that a home made gelly? Thanks.
dickblick.com 16 in. x 20 in is the largest in the market so far
What size Gelli plate are you using? I love that large size!!!
16 in. x 20 in. from dickblick.com
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This Lithograph-like look is really great !! ... may i ask, what material the beige layer ( the last step in both cases ) is? Is it a simple acrylic paint, or kind of a special transfer medium or so ?
Nothing special, it's unbleached titanium acrylic.
Oh, that's cool ... Thanks a lot 😊
What do you use to make your scribbles?
please watch czcams.com/video/UTB1E5gjj8M/video.html
The 'gel' would just be lower durometer silicone.
Grazie per questo interessantissimo esperimento ❤️ i risultati mi piacciono tanto 😍 ma si potrebbe fare un gelli plate con del silicone trattato con acqua e sapone? Come per fare gli stampi in silicone ma dandogli la forma del gelli plate... Potrebbe funzionare? Grazie 😘
Meglio lasciarlo ai professionisti! Grazie mille per aver guardato!
Help ! I used the sharpies and am left. With the lines that refuses to e totally lifted off…..any suggestions please
use a combination of hand sanitizer first, and alternate with baby oil, it should remove the permanent marker
I would be curious try this silicon mat on top of my gelli plate in order to keep the « swinging » feeling I get🎉 when I apply and roll the paint…
There's no harm in trying. It nay work. It may not.
I literally have hundreds of gel prints. What do you do with yours?
please see artwhisperer88.com
Ah, very cool!
Where does one find a silicone mat please?
i got it on Amazon www.amazon.com/Silicone-Resin-LEORBO-Sheets-Crafts/dp/B09YTT5TDD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2H62XIJKLNZP&keywords=silicone%2Bmats%2Bfor%2Bcrafts&qid=1697103034&sprefix=silicon%2Bmat%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1
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It looks to me like you used a different paper w/ the silicone mat as opposed to your gelli print. Is that really an experiment?
It's a test case. Not sure if it was going to work so I used a cheaper watercolor paper.
Looks like a big tree!
I tried a silicone mat, and I got poor results.
A viewer said that the gelli plate is the Rolls Royce of printing surfaces, I believe her! They are 2 different animals.
How is it possible to publish my work here?
Sped up this vid x2.
Good for you! I do that myself.
Me too
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