The Worst Space Marine Terminators for Warhammer 40k 2nd edition?
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2024
- The worst* terminators GW made...
Painted as Imperial Fists
Rolling a turd in glitter
With a poem at the end instead of a song
*if you know my sense of humour, you know how serious I am about this statement
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Averland Sunset
Contrast Imperial Fist
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Fenrisian Grey
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Trollslayer Orange
Flashgitz Yellow
Vermin Brown (old series)
Caledor sky
Drakenof Nightshade
2. Vallejo
Tan Earth
Dark Vermillion
Dark Sand
Black
White
Orange Red
Golden Yellow
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Gun Metal
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Miniscape, Scape of Minis.
Ha
Imo the main problem with them, besides their terrible proportions, is that GW made a multi part plastic kit giving them LESS diverse poses and options than even the first edition terminators that came 4 or 5 years before that
They came out over priced, as the multi part kits came out in almost the same timeframe... They were leftover sculpts from the '95-96 version of Space Hulk, back in the infamous days of the plastic invasion....
Nefarious bottom feeder Chucks were out there putting the 50.00 price tag on them, alongside the exact same figures, still out in Metal.
They are still better than the first edition Space Hulk ones.
Back in 3rd edition, Terminators were the worst unit in the game,
Isn't that GWs MO right now?
Leave my lovely 1st edition chonky Bois alone.not sure why I love them so much. I wasn't around for 1st edition and didn't even realise they were a thing until recently now I have 20+ to paint. @@Octarinewolf
It was thanks to that space hulk game I even got interested into Warhammer.
We were having a "bring a toy to school" day at school, one kid brought his box of space hulk and another of his friends brought some of those old monopose plastic reptile skinks, I had no idea what any of this was but I just knew it was cool as can be 😎, so a few years later my mum bought me the 3rd edition starter set and the paint set for 40k, i then immediately spilled Bad Moons yellow paint on my trousers
for me it was some guy at scouts doing his hobby badge and brought his tau army lol.
That was like 20 years ago now.
Gun metal grey all over my school trousers haha
Ahhh, Miniscape. Exactly what I needed in the background while I did a bit of baking.
In the background eh? That's fine but your undivided attention is preferable 😜
@@Miniscape-wh40kI have never watched while baked. The seems interesting to do.
@@robinblackmoor8732
Don't, lol. You get the urge to impulse buy all the cool 40k stuff you see.
What did you make?
@@farseerflore9512 Just some bread. Came out nicely.
Man I miss low price blister packs for single minis to customise a squad. Oooh and the catalog. I had the GW catalog where you could order individual bits... That takes me so far back
Look cheap now, but do remember buying a Bad Moon Nob with the best part of that week's paper round money.
Bring back the Mail Order Troll supremacy. I only used the service once or twice Back In The Day™ and it was the greatest thing. It blows my mind that GW don't make new moulds for some of the most in-demand early sculpts and just sell them in blisters for community good will. They clearly know considering how well the Tribute Noisemarine sold.
Hey I recognize those lamenters terminators! Honored to have them on a video great work as always :)
The 'worst' Terminators, painted them as Imperial fists. How fitting! Haha! Iron Within!
Edit: Hope you get back to Chaos and paint some Iron Warriors.
I never really leave chaos. Don't hold your breath for iron warriors though. Sorry. They're just not on my radar at all.
Space Marine Terminators.
Terminator Space Marines.
Space Terminators Marines.
Marines Terminators Space.
🤣
... and a poem to finish! I snap my fingers to you sir *clicking sounds*
Space Marine Terminators, Terminators of Space Marines. I bought that edition of Space Hulk from discount books and arts and crafts store; The Works back in the day. Myself and a few friends got a copy each, I'm sure they were about £5 each, brand new and sealed. I remember going back a few days later and asking if they had anymore, and the guy behind the till telling me that as soon as the local Games Workshop found out, everyone had come down to clean them out!
Best £5 you ever spent, I reckon!
The yellow armor looks absolutely fantastic.
Oh man. The first model I ever had for anything tabletop related was a metal Terminator with assault cannon (Albeit the metal version of these sculpts). They were under the glass counter at a local game/comic shop, having been already painted pretty nicely. I had no idea what it was but I loved how it looked, it was so unlike anything else. I believe I paid $7 for it, around 1999. I didn't learn it was part of a game until I brought it to school to show a friend, and another boy in class looked over and say "Do you play Warhammer?".
My first Space Marines army had a squad of the 1990s era plastic Terminators.
They came as part of the Space Marines Battleforce box for 3rd edition.
They were adorably cute.
Of course, I do also love the two incarnations that came after (the ones still available as the Terminator Assault Squad box, and the newest ones for this 10th edition of 40k).
Don’t go forgetting the slightly taller than assault terminators that you could find in the blood and dark angel specific kits 😝
Was just rewatching some older videos of yours and wondered where you were. Nice to see a new one!
Great. I always release one every two weeks at the very least.
They're only the worst because they're not made any more. Loved these minis myself. But yeah, they were a bit lacking.
Imperial Fist contrast paint really is amazing. It and Magmadroth Flame are my favourite way of basecoating yellow and orange. I love how vibrant and saturated they are.
They gave me so much joy back in the day.
Yeah dude these were great
its kinda funny looking at these sculpts and realize that the basic guys are doing the same pose as the epic scale version (i dont know which came first). I was gonna say that they look stiff and can barely move but maybe that was the point.
0:21 Like father like son
Roll it in glitter. Love it!!
🎶Energy crackles are just enough to slice your foes to apart,
Energy crackles are just enough to show off your painting art,
They are full of deadly goodness,
Your enemies to thwart,
Energy crackles as just enough to slice your foes to apart.🎶
The paint job really makes those janky minis sing.
Thanks buddy 😊
The worst terminators ever made were definitely the terminators in the 1st edition space hulk. So so bad.
I agree but up until last year those were the only terminators I owned since 1989! Early on I did slice the arm off one and replace it with a metal assault cannon. The clip-on heavy flamer was a nice idea. I got Leviathan last year and the difference in size is hilarious, I can't seriously field them together :)
How dare you mock the precious goobers with their cheese wedge guns!
I really thought that was what this video was going to be about. Walking meatball terminators.
So very very bad.
Agreed. This kit was so much better than the Space Hulk 1st edition ones.
A blood angel told me the poem was of the finest quality for a son of Dorn. On reflection I think he was taking the piss.
Recall in 2nd edition you could rock a 19 model wolf guard squad with assault cannon and cyclone launcher on the same model! Gotta love those codex options that the game devs didn't spot!
i think the assault cannon and CML combo was possible even in the 4th edition black templar codex
I've seen someone do that with a Ligtening Claw taken as well! Crazy!!
Yes 2nd edition space wolves. The beardiest of beardy builds you always saw. It was usually some older guy too that had it worked out.
Many of overpriced Wolf Guard have fallen to my mighty Shokk Attakk Gun.
@@mattslucas1521 ha! Second edition shock attack gun was the bane of termies and dreads! My mate had one and turn one it was target priority 1!
I remember being in fifth grade at n 2001, the games workshop employee talking my father and I into space marines instead of any type of Xenos that caught my eye. And thinking how amazing the terminators looked.
Now I must admit they are quite hideous, but we all have something ugly about us. So I will love them nonetheless.
The best channel made for CZcams
Oh stop 😅
Having painted a bunch of these specific terminators, I can't help but agree. They aren't much fun to paint.
Fascinating watch but I do think you made life hard for yourself with the banner. I did the same thing in Word when building my metal mini's in the 90's. The difference is I used colour fill to colour the background on the banner, Ultramarines blue. I then coloured each image that I then inserted into the banner. All of this was done at 6 times the size of the banner required for the marine and once I was happy with everything, I reduced the size of the cell I had built it in and printed it out. The banner still sits on the banner pole today. It is older than a lot players and still has that vibrant colour.
It really wasn't that hard at all, but thanks 😊
Always have a soft spot for the plastic termies because they were my first models along side the monopose second ed. marines from the paint set.
"As if he was a ragdoll my squadmate they did pluck..."
...Is this going where I think it is?
"They thrashed him and they smashed him and his body they did..."
Wait, I was _joking!_
"...chuck."
...Aaaaaand heresy averted. Well played.
THAT kit right there was the beginning of the end for Games Workshop. In our neck of the galaxy, those damned terminators were priced out of reach at $50.00 for a box of 5.
They were all left over plastics from that iteration of Space Hulk, which was, at the time, famously under printed. The Space Hulk game of the time was out for no less then 2-4 months, over ordered, and under released. It was the stuff of legends, how badly GW dropped that ball.
They rank up there in hushed tones of discussion of the Beret wearing Storm Troopers... 25.00 for a box containing 6 of the exact same molded figure...
No kidding, GW is GW's biggest obstacle to World Domination 😂. Even early GW, (the best GW) had its stupid moments.
That wasn't even that bad. I just saw bloody termagants are like 60 dollars a box now. This is why I just buy Gundam now.
Great vid, keep em comin ! loved the Poem btw 👌🏽
Thanks bud
Probably the worst, but the only ones I have. I still have the ones my father gifted me back in the day, like 25 years ago
For all the horror of bad proportions they do not compare to the horror of those abominations that was anything slaanesh related. I swear one of those minis was two Barbie legs glued to a lego brick.
I loved these dudes! One of the first boxes I got. Man I miss ordering bits from GW.
These terminators are great and I won't hear them bad mouthed! definitely better than the plastic ones that came with 1st edition space hulk, their only sin is a lack of options for the heavy weapon.
I quite enjoyed the poem. You should do more!
Love these vids! I have a bunch of 3d printed/kitbashed terminators I LOVE for my World Eaters, but I'm afraid of the future codex replacing them YwY
Thank you. Remember you and your mates can play any codex you like if you're in agreement
I finally gave in. You inspired me to dig through my old minis. Found a 2nd edition Space Wolf Wolf Guard, wearing a helmet and pointing a scoped bolter. Only had a coat of primer, so no stripping needed. Very chuffed with how he turned out. Have a massive backlog of primaris, (forgot how small the older minis werd in comparison!), so hope I'm not going to get dragged into my old Orks, Space Wolves and Nurgle marines!😂 Great video mate, and thanks for my foray into the past.👍
My work is done 😜
Ngl, the latest Space Hulk version, with those unique BLood Angel models, is one of my favorite box sets, they just look amazing with the different poses and details.
Excellent job and enjoyable video.
Fantastic. I coveted these Terminators as a young man of 15 years old. However, never actually managed to get some. The first Terminators I ended up owning were the larger plastic Terminators with the ball joints at the hip that were released in fourth edition. You’ve done a fantastic job. Kudos.
Thank you 😊
Love these minis. Great paint job too 👍🏻😊
Thanks man 😍
I swear you and Minisodes are on matching schedules lol.
We're telepathically linked
Me parece que te ha quedado genial la escuadra 👌Una pregunta, para quitar la pintura del plástico que empleas? Muchas gracias!
Wow, they take me back. It must've been somewhere around 2003-2005, I was out on a week away with the Scouts, with my twin brother. We had some pocket money for the week (probably £20) and we saved all of it for the day trip into Poole town centre. I bought a box of Dark eldar warriors and my brother bought this set of terminators. Imagine our glee when we found out the terminators were snap fit.
We played some very small games of 40k (basically proto kill-team) on a table with a 30cm ruler and a single d6 we scrounged from somewhere. Man, that was a fun week (amongst other things got chased into a wheat field by some young offenders camping next door who'd broken curfew and were looking to beat us up, then getting rounded up by our scoutmasters to get traumatised by Sleepy Hollow of all things). Thanks for posting this, really gave me an attack of the warm fuzzies. I must be getting old!
I have a few of these I spruced up with some extra bits from various marine kits and they look OK. I am slightly biased though as Terminators are my all time favourite models (no matter the sculpt).
These were my first models from the Build + Paint kits released maaaany years after their heyday. Got a soft spot for them
I have been binging on this channel this week. Really takes me back to my early teens. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for watching 🤗
I just finished 5 of these for my 2nd edition Blood Angels army! I thought they were quite fine models.
I literally just finished fixing my dad’s old second addition minis in case he wants to collect again and he had these! I remember playing with his army as a kid (Im the reason I needed to fix it) and I used to think the terminators were part robot because their torsos spun around
The fact you could twist these at the torso seemed revolutionary to me at the time!
What a lovely poem.
Thank you 😊
Haha love that the best ‘thrusting pose’ possible for these old bastards is nice and relaxed
I thought this was going to be about the monopose plastic Termies from Space Hulk 1... shudder. You did an ace job, as ever :)
Yeah a few people have said. Sorry to disappoint 😜
@@Miniscape-wh40k Future project eh ;)
@@WanderlustZero possibly 😊
Nostalgia overload!! I love it, keep up the awesome work!
Thanks very much 😊
When I worked at a LGS back in that day doing paint demos during School Holidays in a major shopping mall, GW gave the store something like 200+ of the plastic Terminators (and other sprues) to give out and demo. For that fact .. our group has a fond remerbrence of them 👍
Worst Terminators....!?
Have you never seen the original one piece plastic Terminators, that came with the original Space Hulk!?
I still have some in my bits box, I keep them only for a laugh.
Great job as always, with an excellent, totally non-heretical, ending. I’ve been going the opposite direction of the simplicity of these with some really over the top Grey Knight HQs and paladins, tho most of them are still just Tamiya titanium silver.
Thanks buddy 😊
I really like them 😆 Recently managed to hold of some more.👌🏻
I was eating an egg yoke over breakfast during the “just egg yoke?” portion of the video😆
Great paint job.
Space hulk 1st ed was the first gw product I ever bought. A true legend of a game
I get so much hobby done when your videos come out. Super inspirational and fun! Thanks man! p.s. I scored some metal Grey Knight terminators on ebay. They're coming from your neck of the woods (England I'm assuming). I'm excited to get in on some of this metal action!
Oh you lucky devil. They are gold dust. Enjoy.
Oh you lucky devil. They are like gold dust. Enjoy.
I really like how you do yellow, and I've effectively stolen your black highlights over Stegadon Scale for my Chaos guns.
Great news. Enjoy.
Terminators have to be my favourite unit and model in all of 40k, and I cant get enough painting videos of the classic sculpts, enough so that I got a bag of metal parts from a friend. And now having watched this I went through the metal terminators I acquired and turns out I have the heavy flamer wolfguard so i will be putting him together soon. I dont have any other wolfguard specific models but I have enough generic to make 5 regular and one librarian.
Sounds great
Termies regardless will always be awesome! Thanks for another fun and relaxing video!
So good.
😊 thanks dude
Well I got into this game back in 1989 with 1st Edition of Space Hulk which I still have along with the Terminators that came with the game.
Really nice video! I actually love these terminators. The new ones are obviously very cool, but I wish they had a bit more of the hunched, compact look that these older ones have.
I had these. (Still do really)
Around 2005 I added a larger base under the existing 28mm base to get them to the same height as the newer plastic kit.
19:10 the main use of the built in homers, in fluff, is to recover the priceless suits, even if the wearer is incapacitated.
I still have a few unpainted metal Terminators from the early nineties. (Even an original 1989 one). A Sergeant, Chaplain, and one with lightning claws. I bought a few dozen minis back then, and never got around to painting most of them.
Give it a go maybe
@@Miniscape-wh40k I'm tempted because of "OldHammer" videos, but they are such rough miniatures!
I can barely muster the energy to paint my modern plastic minis.
You did a nice job on those old plastic Terminators, yellow is tricky if you don't know the secret to painting yellow effectively.
Thanks. I know one method. I don't know the secret though🤣
@@Miniscape-wh40k A pink base coat leads you to success with yellow!
I guess I'm odd-man out: I like these termies. They embody the plodding "tank" I always envisioned.
I still have a couple of the metal terminators, these things still old up pretty well ngl.
One single piece for the body, 2 arms and that's it.
Starting a 3rd Edition Imperial Fists Supremacy Force per chaunce... 😎👌
“Just like the lush landscapes you’d find onboard a space hulk” lol
😉
The Cyclone in 2e has some fairly silly rules, especially compared to the other imperial weaponry. If I ever run terminators for 2e, I’ll be doing it with as many of them as possible just for the fun of it.
A real treat to end my day! 😎
Haha! I somehow expected this to be about the 1ed Space Hulk terminators. ;-P
Sorry to disappoint 😉
@@Miniscape-wh40k oh no, don’t be! You did a great job on the figures in your video.
You can't polish a turd, but you sure can roll it in glitter. Well said. I'm stealing that.
Feel free to. I stole it from elsewhere.
@@Miniscape-wh40k I'd love to trace that down.
You know the models are getting bigger, but seeing the two terminators at 0:22 is mindblowing to see how much bigger they are.
I liked those terminators, i had a bunch of them with a metal ones mixed through the squads
You made them look as good as they can look, Ed, don't despair. Keep improving, keep learning, keep striving! (We all inspire each other...)
Thanks
I'm called Matthew
Sorry, Miniscape and Minisodes blend together in my brain-- for sure I'll keep it straight now!
I thought these were amazing, I had been playing 1st edition space hulk for years, and the 2nd ed ones felt like a huge upgrade, in 1st edition, there was only 1 sculpt, with a clip on heavy flamer, this plastic boxed set was great, because it worked out about 1/3 of the price of the metal ones, and you could actually carry a 30 strong terminator Deathwing army to your mates house on your pushbike, without requiring a back brace when you get there.
Yeah, those plastic ones were mince. I had a lovely set of metal terminators (assault cannon) and a set of metal close combat terminators with both lightning claws and thunder hammer chaps. Heavy, and prone to falling over, but they were great. Still, these plastic ones done the job as I procured them from my pal who had that edition of Space Hulk.
They're a definite step down from the metal Terminators of the time, but let's not forget the Space Hulk v1 Terminators - limited in movement and uninspired in pose as these v2 boys are, they're an improvement. Yours look great too, that effort setting up the base yellow with its underlying shadows really paid off. I still have my Space Hulk complement of these, and with ten to play with I did get a little carried away with poses on a couple of them. All-time favourite remains the first metal Cyclone though, I don't think any of the later bolt-on-box versions look as cool, even the modern ones.
I’ve got to get me some of these!!!
I was convinced he was gonna say "space marine terminators, the mators of ter"
STC discovered by Arkhan Nator.
I was tempted but fancied a day off
Vermin Brown. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time, a long time. He was a good friend.
Hi I've got metal terminators that look like these they seem pretty old, does anyone know what edition they might be?
Rogue trader or 2nd edition probably
@@Miniscape-wh40k Thanks! I've got about 40 of them and a Furibundus all metal, This is a bit of a stretch, but how much do you think those would go for? (I'm not selling them I just kinda wanted to know)
@@oligb1469 probably £5 per model is my estimation but maybe more
@@Miniscape-wh40k That's good means my sister won't try to sell them! Thanks for indulging me!
Just inject that 90s sons of DORN nostalgia in my veins please ! ! ! 👍
I found out these old termies are pretty easy to fix proportions wise if you add an abdominal spacer between the chest and pelvis with greenstuff. It gives them a lot of poseability, adds some much needed height and most importantly, makes them look less stunted. If you put them on the bigger bases it also really helps. Still I do really appreciate you leaving them in their original style :)
Good tip about the spacers. My intention though is to paint old models to use with old rules at their original size.
i still have 10 of these, rebased on 40mm bases they look okay and decently retro. Also some Chaos Terminators that I did similar with that look good.
You should totally make some more Scythes Of The Emperor
Oh and maybe do some Epic scale videos, if you can that is
More scythes of the emperor? I have never painted one. I'm not against doing epic. 😊
I only had the lead versions as I had my deathwing terminators..... but I love this era.... the best thing.... the PRICE!!!! 😂
I know this would be crazy budget but if you could ever get one of those limited edition really old thunderhawk gunships from the 90s like Squidmar miniatures, that would be awesome
I could build one from cardboard? 🤣
@@Miniscape-wh40k 😳😳😳 pls no 😂😂 but I love your content, I can relate to a lot of it because a lot of my collection is reliving or perhaps continuing my childhood dreams. I love all the old models here on your channel
@@JamesStaffthepro awesome
Unrelated question, but what is your opinion of 3rd Edition (and the later editions based on it)?
I played more 3rd than 2nd and I would play it again. I never played 4th. 5th I played 2 games of. 6th I played a lot of. It was fine. Melee armies suffered. Played a couple of games of 7th then quit for 6 years. 2nd has more character which is why I make videos on it now. But I would love to play 3rd again. It was a fast and slick system. Not flawless but fun.
@@Miniscape-wh40k Solid answer, thank you!
I have heard some murmuring online of both 2nd and 3rd having something of a cult revival, as people prefer their "characterful" design philosophy. A lot of old hands seem to find the current game rather soulless - myself included. As such, many seem to be going back to previous editions - partly for nostalgia, but also because the games were just... better.
If the mood ever takes you, I'd love to see some love given to 3rd edition. Also, if you ever decide to team up with another channel for another battle report (such as Minisodes), I'm very much all here for it.
Ahh the joys of trying to stick to a release schedule. If only I could manage that. 😢😅
It's killing me 😅 nah not really
@@Miniscape-wh40k Trying to do two visits a month is a bit beyond me at the moment. Hopefully I'll get there though..
The Russian badger is such big mean by now in the Warhammer hobby
Cool, one the most iconic plastic miniatures i love it