$200 NBA Swingman Jersey? | Retail Jersey Rant | Mitchell & Ness Hardwood Classic Review
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- $200 NBA Swingman Jersey? | Retail Jersey Rant | Mitchell & Ness Hardwood Classic Review
In this episode of Man Cave Stuff with Jakkbox Creations, I ordered a jersey from a NBA team's official website. What I received was not what I expected. I go on a mild rant about swingmans and the de-evolution of retail jerseys.
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I think my favorite part about this is the Nets shop rep saying “it’s not a swingman jersey” and right under that Mitchell and ness tag it says “HWC Swingman” clear as day 😂😂
Right?! Like c'mon man. Peak over at your product and get familiar with it. The consumer shouldn't have to feel like he's rolling the dice when he hits the "purchase" button. 🤦♂️
Part of the problem is the nomenclature that they use for jerseys because a swingman is usually listed as an “authentic” jersey. Which is obviously confusing because most people consider authentic to be the closest thing to what the actual players wear. If you go to the official NBA store website and filter by “authentic”, you will see that the M&N swingman jerseys are still included. 🤦🏽♂️
Sounds like we’re gonna get a 🔥 custom Coleman Jersey video!
😆 Can't get what I want, so I may have to take matters into my own hands, bruh. Appreciate you man!
$200 for screen-printed Mitchell & Ness trash is CRIMINAL
This is exactly the reason I got into customizing my own jerseys, I spent 218 dollars on a heat pressed Raiders Jersey off of the nflshop... found your page and never looked back
Bro, I legit love your comments. You hit it right on the head. People get fed up and just say, I’ll do it myself. I wish I could work more with customizers. I can’t share all my secrets and methods, but maybe I’ll hold a seminar. Lol.
It's true the quality isn't the same when peter capolino ran Mitchell and Ness. I got a newer bird authentic and a bird authentic from mid 2000's. The newer bird is made of polyester when the game worn Celtics jerseys are nylon just like the early 2000's Celtics bird jerseys. Even the tailoring is not the same anymore and yet they charge more money
Yo Jakk. Good thing you returned it. That was badly produced jersey and for 200 bucks! I got a Robert Horry Lakers Swingman jersey and the jock tag was all stitched. The description also pointed out that it was a Swingman. Got it for $100. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a video on your own custom Derrick Coleman stitched jersey weeks from now. Lol
See, it sounds like some teams’ stores have it figured out. Maybe the Rockets can share their notes with the Nets. 😆 Btw, $100 for a classic Big Shot Bob is a deal! Good find bro!!
Oh man! I really feel for you brother in this video! The same exact experience happened with me with a recent purchase that I made on the Official Warriors Team shop! I ordered a draymond green authentic (paid authentic price) and they sent me a swingman! 🤦♂️
Nike/M&N and even fanatics really need to step up their game with the quality, because it’s unacceptable!
P.S. thank you for the shout out as well 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
A swingman for authentic prices?! That blows my mind. You’d think you’d be safe ordering from the teams’ website. And I don’t know what it’s gonna take to hold these manufacturers accountable, but we’re a few steps away from swingman t-shirts. Love your stuff bro, thanks for the inspiration!
@@JakkBoxCreations it’s nuts, but sadly it’s the reality with today’s supply and demand. I think it’s safe to assume swingmans make more sales than the authentics we all love so much 😞😭
And I’m humbled man. Your work / videos are amazing! Keep grinding & inspiring 🙏🏽
I’ve been a fan of Mitchell & Ness for a long time and historically speaking, they have always made great, high quality products. That said, clearly something changed during their partnership with the NBA/Nike where it was determined that it was in their best interest to reduce the quality of their swingman line. Perhaps the reason is because they offered a much better product at the same exact price point of Nike’s own swingman line (coincidentally around the time that Nike became the official partner for NBA jerseys). It’s very unfortunate for hardcore consumers because we all know how limited most of these throwback uniforms are and now there is seemingly no option to acquire them affordably unless you get lucky and purchase from a third party vendor (who are quickly running out of stock).
Lol. I love how at the end you show the REFUND! 🤣🤣 The rep should've known their product. NO EXCUSES.
😆 You saw that, right?! I agree. They really should educate their people so the consumer doesn't have to feel like he's rolling the dice when he hits the purchase button.
How in the world did I just find this channel now? Great content bro. Newly subbed from a fellow jerseyhead!
I’m glad you found the channel, brother! 🙏 Welcome! Loving the BK bridge icon, BTW
Thanks for the insight, very informative✌👍
Absolutely. And thanks for watching!
They only cost that much for the royalties and licensing of the logos. And it screws teams from using their own retro logos. That's why Spurs had to change the font on their 2020 Fiesta jerseys.
Oh wow, that’s why some logos look different. I didn’t even realize that. Thank you man!
New subscriber here! Great content! Thanks for sharing!
It’s the fact that the rep you spoke to works there and didn’t know it literally says “swingman” on the tag for me …
Bro, I thought I was the only dude that paid this much attention to the details on swingmans and authentics. I get so disappointed with swingmans. If it ain’t tackle twill, please sell them at $75 like back in the day.
This sucks Jakk, Nets selling ironed on swingmans for $200 is crazy!
Bro, right?! I’ve got the Nets store over here selling mystery boxes. Took a month to get back my moneys too. Smh
Can swingman 2nd generation Mitchell and ness jersey stitch? As the alternative way? Just like the 1st generation.
Awesome vid bro! New sub here 🤙🏽 I fear that one day, the swingman jerseys will be sublimated...I will not pay $110 for sublimated jerseys 🤦🏽♂️ I would have to start buying authentics more
What's the most to pay for a swing man?
@@scottglover1371 Retail? $130 for M&N
@@scottglover1371 $110 for a Nike Swingman
If you look at baseball’s minor leagues, their game-day uniforms are completely sublimated. It’s awful. See, but informed consumers, like us, know the differences and we can choose to push back. Welcome to the channel, bro! Thank u for the sub
I DEFINITELY understand your pain,I am just baffled at how Swingmans are nowadays with heat pressed twill,it's beyond infuriating.Since the last Adidas Swingmans version they went into this new method and Nike/Mitchell have only made prices higher while durability takes a hit. Two years ago M&N Swingmans were stitched and GODLY with the heavy fabrics too!
As far as the price of your specific jersey,that's definitely the Team Store upcharge,idk if you could buy that anywhere else but as for example,the spurs have Sean Elliott jerseys for $175 instead of the usual $135 at the malls.
Only through their site is it $175....and is heat pressed too..
Great point! It was actually during Adidas’ time as manufacturers that the swingman’s lost their stitching. You’re right. And thank you, I didn’t realize other teams, like the Spurs also did this. I guess if a few people are willing to pay the up charge, then the team stores will have buyers for these types of jerseys.
They see what’s done in Europe and all over the world and realize how much money can be saved in production, and try to bring that here. While charging more and more for a cheaper product
Hey what’s going on? I just purchased the Reggie white m and n green Jerome brown patched Reggie white Jersey. Question are the numbers supposed to be heat pressed or sewn the shoulders are seen but the front and back are heat pressed if I’m not mistaken!? Please get back to me. Thanks.
Hey Johnny! So I'm guessing it's the 1992 throwback. Back then the Eagles used screen printing, but that process makes for difficult manufacturing. So M&N went with vinyl graphics for their reproductions. All that to say, they're shouldn't be any sewn numbers, letters or logos. Hope that helps.
Such a shame :/ I used to order a Rondo bulls jersey from the Europian NBA Store and that was the same: a customised blank jersey. After that I realised that all the jerseys are blank there. I'll never order from that store again.
Oh wow, so it’s a global thing. That’s amazing. It might be time for some retail quality control for the NBA.
That’s crazy that they’re now charging $200 for swingman jerseys and they’re not even stitched at that. I purchased a Magic Johnson M&N swingman jersey a couple years ago for $100 compared to the $300 authentic. That to me seems a bit more reasonable. Authentic’s are always the way to go, but the price tag does hurt a bit 🥴
Buying options are always a good thing. I'd never knock anyone for buying one over the other. Especially for what they're charging. And $100 for the greatest Laker ever?! That's a win right there!
@@JakkBoxCreations absolutely! For some it’s preference. But it mainly comes down to affordability, which is understandable. The fact that they’ve increased the price on replica/swingman jersey’s is not ok. They’ve always been a good alternative with reasonable quality. But for them to up-charge and cutback on quality is unacceptable. I personally would much rather shell out some extra cash but know what I’m getting, rather than gambling and going the affordable route and receiving mid tier quality. I think the last decent swingman’s the NBA had was right before their adidas contract ended. The year before Kobe retired, those were great! But yes, luckily M&N swingman’s were cheaper a few yrs ago and I was able to snag a Magic jersey for a decent price. It’s not the authentic which I know is 10x’s better lol but it looks and feels good 👍
P.s. I love your content bro! I’m a fan and you inspire me to make my own custom jerseys some day lol fly eagles fly 🦅
I've never seen that jock tag... They always stitch the jock tag...
I've never seen that jock tag... They always stitch the jock tag...
i search for pre-owned adidas swingmans. cheaper and much higher quality. Hope adidas gets the contract back one day
ya man most of us knew this but if u havnt bought it in a while ur in for a shock. i remember when i discovered it a couple yrs ago
SMH. The grey Nets jersey is growing on me. And they don't make an authentic. So, I may have to grab one for keeps.
quick question bro. Is it possible to sew those swingman jersey with their heat sealed tackle twill applique for durability purposes? I mean it's safe and doable right?
Great question. Absolutely! When Nike had the NBA contract in the early 2000s, their “Dri Fit” material was the standard for on-court authentics. They have a new Dri Fit now, but it’s all the same material and it’s 100% sewable. Good luck!
@@JakkBoxCreations appreciate the response and what you do!! Keep it up brother 🤙
2 months ago I got a Kemba Walker Celtics city jersey from Boston pro shop for $175 thinking I got authentic jersey. When I got it was a swingman jersey. So be careful what you order.
It hurts my heart to hear this happening at these team shops. These are the official shops, bro! Travis, it's not supposed to be like this. Someone else said the same thing happened overseas. I'm hoping they shipped the authentic Kemba and let you keep the swingman to hoop in.
You can read and they will tell you what jersey it is I got got like that to we all been there it happens
I ordered the Kevin Garnett timberwolves hall of fame swingman Jersey for about £150 and I sent it back within ten minutes of opening it. Crappy quality, the size L fit like an old Adidas retro swingman small.. I have authentics and I've never been disappointed by a jersey as much as I was that day, sadly the mass majority of buyers now aren't going to kick up a fuss about changes if they never had the older M&N product.
See exactly. That’s terrible. And that whole sizing issue really makes no sense. I think they’re trying to use less material? But you’re right it’s up to the consumer to make a fuss.
I’m only wearing my jerseys once and that’s it
Quality on new jerseys have become worse as well as thinner material used. You know as good as I do, stick to the top of the line authentics. I think you should make your own letters and numbers and stitch them on top of the existing heat pressed single layer twill. Make this swingman into an authentic by using yr skills.
See and you, as a smart consumer, recognize the down-grade in quality. Companies are hoping you won’t notice. I’ve thought about stitching-on the graphics. Good point. But the hem, the jersey material and the cut would all be the same. So I’m not sure it’d be worth it.
I also don't like the new Mitchell & Ness Swingman Jerseys as much as previous year's Swingmans. The new jerseys are not stitched and the numbers are plastic-like. Also, the new swingman Jerseys are about an inch shorter in length than previous year's Swingmans.
I don’t mind the shorter hem. I’m that tall, so a little less length is ok for me. But I agree about the quality. There’s no reason M&N can’t sew their swingman jerseys. It’s just a move to save money.
Anyone else sick of seeing all the m&n fakes on every site with the jerseys in clear plastic bags! But they be like "it's stitched, $300 please."
100% It’s ridiculous. Type in Kobe jersey on EBay. Bro, page after page of fakes. Smh
There's other websites where you can get a Mitchell & Ness swingman for less. I collect both products so I understand your frustration against the overall quality.
I may have to start doing better research, man. You’re probably right. Either that, or just making all of my own stuff going forward. Lol.
You know any good websites? Tryna find them for the low low
mitchell and ness swingman jerseys are $129. Their swingman jerseys are never $200. That is why i only shop from NBA store or Mitchell and Ness
In this case it was the team’s actual online store, NetsStore.com. Unfortunately they have a steep up charge.
the swingman feels like it should be the replica or third level quality jersey
Almost feels like it's headed there, right?
I hope you can get a refund. Such a shame. Bought my first Swingman on 2004. Chris Webber. Quality was pretty good. Stitched. The last I bought? RJ Barrett. From Nike. Nothing stitched. Just heat pressed. Quality is ok. But more like a replica to me.
Concerning Mitchell and Ness. Only have authentic jerseys. But 2 BULLS Swingman shorts. Bought a red one 2 years ago. Quality is pretty good. Even has a tag inside for the year. Logos are stitched. Bought the white one last year. Everything Heat pressed. No tag inside. NBA logo Heat pressed. Quality is down a lot... only good thing about it pockets. But they are in both. Now thinking about picking up authentic shorts. Even without the pockets. Just for the looks of em.
Oh definitely. Taking all my money back. Lol. I need to pick up some shorts, man. I think you have the right idea. I like the look of the game shorts. I didn't realize some come with pockets. That makes sense. I'd probably go with the classics too: Bulls, Lakers. Can't go wrong there.
@@JakkBoxCreations pockets only on swingman. Good for you for the refund. Forgot to tell you that when I ordered the Barrett jersey it was Also a blank and they Heat pressed it on demand. Really a bad look for brand IMO. Trying to cop these swingman with discounts. Never full price.
@@SneakPick2345 Thats awesome, man. Sounds like you’ve the eye for a good deal too.
How is this Derrick Coleman who priced his jersey for $200.
If you don’t want it I’ll cash you out 😂
You got an Instagram or other social media?!
@jakkboxcreation in IG
Buy the older makes regardless of the price. They’re charging astronomical prices for shit quality jerseys made of recycled bottles these days!
You hit the nail on the head. I remember when a Champion replica with a name and number was $40.
@@fantasticvoyage262 remember $40 Champion replicas, $60 Nike/Reebok swingmans and and authentics were like $150
This is why I don’t touch swing man jerseys. Authentic or nothing for me.
It kills me they don’t offer every edition in authentic. Like the classics are Swingman only. Makes no sense.
Not ok ! a real Jersey is stitched
First mistake you made buying a m&n and supporting fanatics and nike.
Brother, I’m actually getting to a point where I don’t trust any of these manufacturers anymore. It’s a shame.
@@JakkBoxCreations just got an ad on IG for a P. Manning m&n replica for $149. The ads don't have actual photos but look like CGI of the product. Description said screen printed. SMFH.
I’m glad you got a refund. Too bad the rep wasn’t honest with you.
Or they didn't know what the hell they're selling.
Mitchell & Ness once high standards are no longer what they once were. They carried over their overpriced replica crap to the NHL now. Hell no, I don't want their junk low quality replicas for $200.
I don't think that's the official Nets store you have get get it from NBA shop
Each team has their own online pro shop, separate from the NBAStore. It’s actually the only place you can get jerseys with the Ad patch on them
That’s some bull shit they gotta do better smh
Yea man, and once upon a time, M&N was known for its good quality.
It’s just as good as authentic idc what people say it just as good it’s just very small difference
Mitchell and ness getting worst and worst !!!
Sad, but true. Cheaper production + higher markup = Win for manufacturers
Dude it sounds like you was sold a fake cuz even on the new swing mans the tag is always stitched in no matter what it is swing man authentic nfl legend whatever the case is there tag is always stitched