Johan, Håkan Sandmark and Dave Card😃Thank you guys! 🙏🙏🙏 Truly(!) a dream come through! 🥂 I’ve been looking for the Weck ((this model!) since You Johan made the first shave. Now I’m looking forward to shave with it n take care of it! Thank you a million times!!!🙏☀️😍😃
@@TheTravelingShaver if they are ever back in stock at The Gentle Shave, I highly recommend an Extra soft Zenith horse hair brush. Good backbone and they never tangle.
Congrats to the winner, and great shave buddy! I prefer badger knots and synthetic knots, I use them both to great effect... I do have a couple pretty good boara I’ll use once and awhile, but the precious knots are my go yo’s. Have a good one my man.
Congratulations Valter a well deserved winner. Great shave and comparison. I started with a boar brush that I got from a house clearance which would have ended up in the tip. Thankfully it was already broken in. I like badger too though I have to take a different approach to lathering with each of my brushes to get the desired result. I do like the Simpson Wee Scot the best it works well. Have a great evening. Very best regards Gordon.👍👌
I won the Matti/Frank Boar brush in the 2nd S&B fundraisers and I’ve always been a badger or synthetic fan. The boar is now my favourite and go to brush. Love the ever ready.
Nice comparison, thanks. My first non-synthetic brush was a semogue owners club mixed knot, with 50/50 boar/badger. It had lots of good reviews from folks on forums (best of both worlds) and I’ve found it to be really nice, but don’t have a lot to compare it to
In the beginning , boar brushes are inexpensive so that is where I started as well as horse hair brushes. Like you mentioned ... some boar knots can be quite scratchy. With me being a painter ... I don't notice it as much. Nice discussion.
@@Shave_n_Butcher Decent backbone in my opinion but some folks have mentioned that the bristles have a tenancy to get tangled up into a knot. Since I am a painter I don't experience the same issue. 🤠
Congratulations to the winner! Be careful with that razor, it's a sharp one. Never tried boar brushes. Thought they would be too harsh. Been buying synthetic brushes lately. Easy to take care of. Good information today Johan, thanks.
@@Shave_n_Butcher that just might be the perfect in between brush. Coarser than badger smoother than boar. If you make one let me know. Maybe get Mattie on it? Good luck with driving!!!
When I had my own shave channel running I did a lot of reviews on synthetic brushes as well as badger Silver tip and two bands but now once I found my 2 great 24 mm boar brushes that is all I will EVER use again. Boars lather easily even with difficult soaps. I mix my lather in a hot water filled mug to keep it warm while picking up just the right amount of lather for a perfect shave. My boars don't have those pin like ends the badger hairs do, They do NOT hold on selfishly to the lather which is a waste IMHO. Boars hold heat~! Boar Brushes rinse and shake out easily to be left hanging to dry. For me it is not even close , after my 36 hr break in, there is no better shave brush on earth for the way I like to shave ~! deshavetalkwithkit CZcams Kit
Thanks Kit. I like the few boars I have as well. The process if different depending on if it's a natural hair brush or a synthetic. It's interesting how people have very different preferences.
Boar in my opinion once broken in is the way to go for the straight razor.. Sure I have some great 2 band badger knots, and a few overpriced Simpson brushes,but if only I knew then what I know now I would have alot more boar brushes, the ratio is crazy considering I prefer the boar.. Keep rocking and stay safe.. The tyranny around us now a day's is crazy...
I prefer boar, then badger. Each create their own lather - boar picks up more soap for a thicker lather while badger holds more water for a wetter lather. I'm not excited about synthetics because they all create the same lather regardless the soap, and they generally don't work for me with the triple-milled soaps.
Nice vid. I prefer synthetics....can get 3 passes head/face with one loading (soft and nice). I do have all, even horse....If I had to have one: synthetic. But I use all for now......though animal hair....I need to load a ton....and sometimes run out and then get pissed off and use some sort of cream..... Cheers
hello :) I traditionally wet shave relatively short compared to you, because since June last year and I do not have such a rich experience, hence my question. After how many shaves or broken boar brushes were you satisfied and what assumptions should a broken boar brush meet? Also, I would like to ask about brushes with horse hair. How would you rank them between badger and wild boar brushes? Something in between or at the end? In conclusion, I would like to say that the production of brushes does not have to involve the killing of animals, because the bristles (I think) do not come off together with the skin. Maybe the badger is put to sleep for a while and is like a sheared ram and then runs to the glade to play with other sheared badgers? If there are any mistakes, please forgive me, I use google translate.
Hello! I think maybe the badgers don't survive being made into brushes. From my experience and others, boar brushes take rather different times to break in. If the bristles are bleached, it goes much quicker. Sometimes it takes 50 shaves. When is it properly broken in? When the tips are nicely split so that they effectively make a lather without sucking in all the life of the soap. Horse brushes (I only have two) have very soft hairs so the backbone is much less than other brushes. It is important to get one which is packed hard and that has a large enough diameter (min 20mm or so perhaps?).
I thought the same thing. Until I had a 30mm whipped dog boar knot dropped in a turn and shave handle my friend. I had this brush made especially for Mitchell's wool fat soap. And it is as soft with backbone as my badger brushes from the start. And I own big ticket badger brushes. And as a barber I have been playing with both types of brushes for over 25 years. Fortunately or unfortunately however you look at it. Lol
Darryl, I have never heard of the whipped dog brand before. 30mm is huge. Do you head shave? If a boar brush is soft from the get go, then it must be pretreated by the maker, right? You are smashing all the stereotypes here. Just saying... Q: Did you deep set the knot for more backbone, or stick with standard for max. Splay? I have yet to try a boar brush. Maybe the whipped dog 24mm would suit me. My goto has been the Simogue Owners Club badger; very soft, no scritch, but ample backbone.
@@ivermec-tin666. It is set deep. You would have to ask Milton at turn and shave for the stats. And I headshave every other day. With a straight razor none the less. But before anyone starts questioning me. I am a 2nd generation barber from the infamous 8 mile road in Detroit Michigan. And I have been professionally shaving people for over 25 years.
@@MegaDutch123 Easy now. Nobody questioning your credentials. I just don't think I would want to go to 30mm for face shaving, because the splay is bigger than my cheek, and larger knots hog more lather. It just seems like overkill for my face. I am intrigued by a boar knot that is soft from the get go... As soft as my boar brush was when new, it does get a bit softer with use, while maintaining it's backbone. It just gets better, ime. Boar brushes do intrigue me though, and one is on my radar.
@@ivermec-tin666. I use the brush for my head my friend. But I do believe that the knots come in smaller sizes. Out of the boar knots that I have experienced over the years. I would have to say the whipped dog is the best. And no one paid me a dime to say this. Lol
Good discussion. I have one of those huge Omega boar brushes I got specifically for head shaves. I like them scrubby, so it works great. I’ve actually just bought a second one to try. No badger brushes yet. Is there a particular one that you would think of as a “workhorse” badger brush that I should consider? Hellacious feedback on that razor today! That thing is loud!
Really enjoyed the comparison. I've been experimenting with boar lately and really enjoying them. Just curious, did you soak each for the same amount of time?
@@Shave_n_Butcher You know me, I have to do things differently. I actually found that soaking just the boar tips under running water for about 10 seconds, then loading helps me keep the lather from soaking in & dissipating into the knots base. The feel initially is firm because only the tips are wet & soft which I like but after working the lather into my face the brush progressively gets softer which is also nice after the initial scrub.
@@Shave_n_Butcher If you are only using your SE blades once, try a Treet carbon steel. The Stainless GEM PTFE blades are reputed to be rough for the first couple of shaves, and then they smooth out. A 1912 should not draw blood. It is reputed to be a very mild design... I have my eyes open for a 1912 or GEM Jr.
better then boar cheaper in the long run no break in .my Simpson Trafalgar is the best brush on the market today it's like buying a $200 badger hairbrush, no cleaning the brush, no need for a brush stand, fast drying time, well not fall apart like a badger hair or boar can, cheap to buy, I have owned it for 5 years with no hair loss with no problems wheelchair Larry Merry Christmas
cant beat it 29mm like a real badger for cheap see my post on one? From Las Vegas, USA, Ho Ho, Merry Christmas to all of you. wheelchair Larry @@Shave_n_Butcher
Do any Pucks"? or hard soaps will work? You can mix and match old soaps? to fit in any mug or cup that you like to use. like Mitchells?' Wool Fat? Cut the bar soap up, put in a mug, cover the soap with a small amount of water, microwave for a minute or so? if it foams up, stop ? let cool you just went to congeal' place in the sun, until soap hardens up. use dry brush more water there cheap Dove bar soaps? and good save your money spend it on your wife don't listen to the shave mafia.try to save people money in these inflationary times From Las Vegas, USA, Ho Ho, Merry Christmas to all of you. Wheelchair Larry @@Shave_n_Butcher
IS THE BEST ONE FOR THE MONEY 2500 max light Olight Baton 3 Pro Max 3000 warm lights are easier on your eyes""""""""" wheelchair larry Merry Christmas @@Shave_n_Butcher
I haven't watched yet, but it's a boar in my opinion. Especially for a bowl lather. I find badger doesn't get all the soap out of bowl when lathering. High density badger eats too much lather for me. But this is all my opinion. And you know what opinions are like
Johan, Håkan Sandmark and Dave Card😃Thank you guys! 🙏🙏🙏
Truly(!) a dream come through! 🥂
I’ve been looking for the Weck ((this model!) since You Johan made the first shave.
Now I’m looking forward to shave with it n take care of it!
Thank you a million times!!!🙏☀️😍😃
Congratulations. I am very happy for you. The panel made an excellent choice
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Boar knots are great, once fully broken in. I tend to use badger, boar, and synthetic knots. I have yet to use a horse hair knot though.
I have a VieLong horse but it is too floppy.
@@Shave_n_Butcher the Veilong brush i have is a horse/badger mix.
@@TheTravelingShaver if they are ever back in stock at The Gentle Shave, I highly recommend an Extra soft Zenith horse hair brush. Good backbone and they never tangle.
Well done Valter! Enjoy you wonderful Weck!
You were on the short list as well.
@@Shave_n_Butcher that is lovely to know.
Congrats to the winner, and great shave buddy! I prefer badger knots and synthetic knots, I use them both to great effect... I do have a couple pretty good boara I’ll use once and awhile, but the precious knots are my go yo’s. Have a good one my man.
Thanks Justin. You have a good one too.
I prefer badger. But then there are the various types of badger. A Silvertip is totally different than a fine
Badgers are classy and the best looking.
The cheap five Quid Omega brushes with 18mm knots seem to break in very quickly and become super soft, in comparison to a new pig wig.
That is ridiculously cheap really. Almost nothing costs 5 quid anymore.
Niece video
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You rock bro.
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We all know who rocks!
Congratulations Valter a well deserved winner. Great shave and comparison. I started with a boar brush that I got from a house clearance which would have ended up in the tip. Thankfully it was already broken in. I like badger too though I have to take a different approach to lathering with each of my brushes to get the desired result.
I do like the Simpson Wee Scot the best it works well.
Have a great evening.
Very best regards Gordon.👍👌
I have seen you use the Wee Scot with elegance.
I won the Matti/Frank Boar brush in the 2nd S&B fundraisers and I’ve always been a badger or synthetic fan. The boar is now my favourite and go to brush. Love the ever ready.
There you go! Always keep an open mind, right!
Johan nice video 👍, like everything else in life it all depends on what YOU like
There is no best ever only what works for you.
Very true!
Nice comparison, thanks. My first non-synthetic brush was a semogue owners club mixed knot, with 50/50 boar/badger. It had lots of good reviews from folks on forums (best of both worlds) and I’ve found it to be really nice, but don’t have a lot to compare it to
That sure sounds like a winner.
In the beginning , boar brushes are inexpensive so that is where I started as well as horse hair brushes. Like you mentioned ... some boar knots can be quite scratchy. With me being a painter ... I don't notice it as much. Nice discussion.
Thanks Jeffrey. I think I may have asked you before, but have you found a horse hair brush that has a decent backbone?
@@Shave_n_Butcher Decent backbone in my opinion but some folks have mentioned that the bristles have a tenancy to get tangled up into a knot. Since I am a painter I don't experience the same issue. 🤠
Thank you for the video! It was nice to get your thoughts!
Thanks for suggesting it!
Great video, I like both as well, depends on the mood.
Cheers Erik.
Congratulations to the winner! Be careful with that razor, it's a sharp one. Never tried boar brushes. Thought they would be too harsh. Been buying synthetic brushes lately. Easy to take care of. Good information today Johan, thanks.
Thanks a lot Ken. Synthetic brushes are great. What I would love is a horse hair brush with backbone. If there is such a thing.
@@Shave_n_Butcher that just might be the perfect in between brush. Coarser than badger smoother than boar. If you make one let me know. Maybe get Mattie on it? Good luck with driving!!!
Thanks Ken! I hope I live to see the day after tomorrow...
When I had my own shave channel running I did a lot of reviews on synthetic brushes as well as badger Silver tip and two bands but now once I found my 2 great 24 mm boar brushes that is all I will EVER use again. Boars lather easily even with difficult soaps. I mix my lather in a hot water filled mug to keep it warm while picking up just the right amount of lather for a perfect shave. My boars don't have those pin like ends the badger hairs do, They do NOT hold on selfishly to the lather which is a waste IMHO. Boars hold heat~! Boar Brushes rinse and shake out easily to be left hanging to dry. For me it is not even close , after my 36 hr break in, there is no better shave brush on earth for the way I like to shave ~! deshavetalkwithkit CZcams Kit
Thanks Kit. I like the few boars I have as well. The process if different depending on if it's a natural hair brush or a synthetic. It's interesting how people have very different preferences.
@@Shave_n_Butcher So true that why I always say "for Me" because people get very defensive sometimes on what they prefer to shave with ~! Kit
Boar in my opinion once broken in is the way to go for the straight razor..
Sure I have some great 2 band badger knots, and a few overpriced Simpson brushes,but if only I knew then what I know now I would have alot more boar brushes, the ratio is crazy considering I prefer the boar..
Keep rocking and stay safe.. The tyranny around us now a day's is crazy...
I think I will have boar, badger and synthetic periods.
I prefer boar, then badger. Each create their own lather - boar picks up more soap for a thicker lather while badger holds more water for a wetter lather. I'm not excited about synthetics because they all create the same lather regardless the soap, and they generally don't work for me with the triple-milled soaps.
Thanks Pat. Always the same lather with synthetics - very interesting.
Nice vid. I prefer synthetics....can get 3 passes head/face with one loading (soft and nice). I do have all, even horse....If I had to have one: synthetic. But I use all for now......though animal hair....I need to load a ton....and sometimes run out and then get pissed off and use some sort of cream..... Cheers
Well now we don’t want you to use cream!
hello :) I traditionally wet shave relatively short compared to you, because since June last year and I do not have such a rich experience, hence my question. After how many shaves or broken boar brushes were you satisfied and what assumptions should a broken boar brush meet? Also, I would like to ask about brushes with horse hair. How would you rank them between badger and wild boar brushes? Something in between or at the end? In conclusion, I would like to say that the production of brushes does not have to involve the killing of animals, because the bristles (I think) do not come off together with the skin. Maybe the badger is put to sleep for a while and is like a sheared ram and then runs to the glade to play with other sheared badgers? If there are any mistakes, please forgive me, I use google translate.
Hello! I think maybe the badgers don't survive being made into brushes. From my experience and others, boar brushes take rather different times to break in. If the bristles are bleached, it goes much quicker. Sometimes it takes 50 shaves. When is it properly broken in? When the tips are nicely split so that they effectively make a lather without sucking in all the life of the soap.
Horse brushes (I only have two) have very soft hairs so the backbone is much less than other brushes. It is important to get one which is packed hard and that has a large enough diameter (min 20mm or so perhaps?).
I thought the same thing.
Until I had a 30mm whipped dog boar knot dropped in a turn and shave handle my friend. I had this brush made especially for Mitchell's wool fat soap. And it is as soft with backbone as my badger brushes from the start. And I own big ticket badger brushes. And as a barber I have been playing with both types of brushes for over 25 years. Fortunately or unfortunately however you look at it. Lol
Not hard to spend money on those babies. Brushes was going to be the last thing I collect, I used to tell myself.
Darryl, I have never heard of the whipped dog brand before. 30mm is huge. Do you head shave? If a boar brush is soft from the get go, then it must be pretreated by the maker, right? You are smashing all the stereotypes here. Just saying...
Q: Did you deep set the knot for more backbone, or stick with standard for max. Splay?
I have yet to try a boar brush. Maybe the whipped dog 24mm would suit me. My goto has been the Simogue Owners Club badger; very soft, no scritch, but ample backbone.
@@ivermec-tin666.
It is set deep. You would have to ask Milton at turn and shave for the stats. And I headshave every other day. With a straight razor none the less. But before anyone starts questioning me. I am a 2nd generation barber from the infamous 8 mile road in Detroit Michigan. And I have been professionally shaving people for over 25 years.
@@MegaDutch123 Easy now. Nobody questioning your credentials. I just don't think I would want to go to 30mm for face shaving, because the splay is bigger than my cheek, and larger knots hog more lather. It just seems like overkill for my face.
I am intrigued by a boar knot that is soft from the get go... As soft as my boar brush was when new, it does get a bit softer with use, while maintaining it's backbone. It just gets better, ime. Boar brushes do intrigue me though, and one is on my radar.
@@ivermec-tin666.
I use the brush for my head my friend. But I do believe that the knots come in smaller sizes. Out of the boar knots that I have experienced over the years. I would have to say the whipped dog is the best. And no one paid me a dime to say this. Lol
Boars work great brother!!
Sure do. I never thought I would like them as much.
Good discussion. I have one of those huge Omega boar brushes I got specifically for head shaves. I like them scrubby, so it works great. I’ve actually just bought a second one to try. No badger brushes yet. Is there a particular one that you would think of as a “workhorse” badger brush that I should consider?
Hellacious feedback on that razor today! That thing is loud!
Simpsons are very good but pricy. Maseto makes very good value for money.
Pavlov joke is hilarious
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Hey Johan good to see you again.
I hope all is well.
Thanks Samuel. I hope you are well too.
Really enjoyed the comparison. I've been experimenting with boar lately and really enjoying them. Just curious, did you soak each for the same amount of time?
Yes I did. I find the longer you soak, the better up until maybe 10 minutes. Then it makes no difference.
@@Shave_n_Butcher You know me, I have to do things differently. I actually found that soaking just the boar tips under running water for about 10 seconds, then loading helps me keep the lather from soaking in & dissipating into the knots base. The feel initially is firm because only the tips are wet & soft which I like but after working the lather into my face the brush progressively gets softer which is also nice after the initial scrub.
Of course you have to be different. So you prefer it stiff at first and then softening gradually.
@@Shave_n_Butcher as we like to say here in da Pennsylvania Dutch Country...oh my lands you should try it vunst.
Well I shall need to know.
Too late. I fell off my chair... An Ever-Ready 1912? Sacrelige!
1950’s. Good stuff.
@@Shave_n_Butcher Did you say what kind of blade you used? I hear the Treet carbon steel SE blades are more forgiving on the first use.
@@ivermec-tin666 A GEM PTFE blade.
@@Shave_n_Butcher If you are only using your SE blades once, try a Treet carbon steel. The Stainless GEM PTFE blades are reputed to be rough for the first couple of shaves, and then they smooth out. A 1912 should not draw blood. It is reputed to be a very mild design... I have my eyes open for a 1912 or GEM Jr.
@@ivermec-tin666 I think I have a TRENT carbon blade. Will check. I draw blood because I am rubbish with safety razors.
Anything is better than boar! I have fat legs I have to reload like 4 times to shave with a boar
So you prefer synthetics?
better then boar cheaper in the long run no break in .my Simpson Trafalgar is the best brush on the market today it's like buying a $200 badger hairbrush, no cleaning the brush, no need for a brush stand, fast drying time, well not fall apart like a badger hair or boar can, cheap to buy, I have owned it for 5 years with no hair loss with no problems wheelchair Larry Merry Christmas
Many shavers swear by the Trafalgar - I have not had the privilege.
Merry Christmas!
cant beat it 29mm like a real badger for cheap see my post on one? From Las Vegas, USA, Ho Ho, Merry Christmas to all of you. wheelchair Larry
@@Shave_n_Butcher
Do any Pucks"? or hard soaps will work? You can mix and match old soaps? to fit in any mug or cup that you like to use. like Mitchells?' Wool Fat? Cut the bar soap up, put in a mug, cover the soap with a small amount of water, microwave for a minute or so? if it foams up, stop ? let cool you just went to congeal' place in the sun, until soap hardens up. use dry brush more water there cheap Dove bar soaps? and good save your money spend it on your wife don't listen to the shave mafia.try to save people money in these inflationary times From Las Vegas, USA, Ho Ho, Merry Christmas to all of you. Wheelchair Larry @@Shave_n_Butcher
you my want to look at the google it ? simpsons king charles brush 35mm for your collection hugs larry@@Shave_n_Butcher
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Hey Johan. Rare to see you use a SE razor.
I don’t know what happened
I haven't watched yet, but it's a boar in my opinion. Especially for a bowl lather. I find badger doesn't get all the soap out of bowl when lathering. High density badger eats too much lather for me. But this is all my opinion. And you know what opinions are like
That makes a lot of sense!
Nice job. It wasn't boar-ing:) Enjoy the driving lessons with your son, that should be fun:)
Oh dad joke!! Thanks Chris.
@@Shave_n_Butcher I'm learning from the best!
Interesting. I can't comment, synthetic me. Strange because I am generally a traditionalist in nearly everything. Each to their own I guess. Be safe.
In terms of performance it’s hard yo beat a synthetic.
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I am glad we agree.
Simpson badger 🦡 🙂🦉
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They're literally totally different beasts..... 🤣 🤣 🤣 a badger will probably perform more consistently than a boar IMHO 👍
Hmmm... thanks Martyn.
Boar.
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Neither.
Because Daleks do not shave!
Come on John Doe!
@@Shave_n_Butcher LOL! If opinions are like assholes, what can you make of a person who doesn't have an opinion?
@@ivermec-tin666 As synthetic as Trent Reznor