You Will 100% Regret Not Grinding the Midnight Coup
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This is my official Destiny 2 Midnight Coup review. The gun is just a jack of all trades. Excellent in PvE, with multiple God Rolls & combos for every occasion. The gun also shines in PvP, although I have more mixed feelings about it there. Let's go over the Midnight Coup God Roll(s), my thoughts on the Midnight Coup, & more.
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they changed explosive payload didnt they? Ur better off only using it for flinch not for range increase I thought.
Thank you for taking care of my other Hand Cannon Manscaped!
EP no longer helps range. In fact its about 1 meter shorter due to the health and damage changes.
i love that you can see coolguy in the background just smashing shit with the felwinter’s helm build he also just uploaded
Was gonna say this too lol
indeed, i'm a big fan of the DCCCU as well (Destiny Content Creator Cinematic Universe).
Dudes a nobody lmao
@@JohnSmith-uf3yn I smell toxicity
Midnight coup is basically “ let’s take this hand cannon and add crack to it “
Not that’s rose 😂
@@Jason300_for pvp? Absolutely, but midnight looks like it was made with pve in mind (clearly) lol
@@alphakingdp583 He's most definitely talking in terms of PvP but honestly it's pretty good in there despite Rose and Austringer existing.
I love crack
@user-pq8on8bx9gJudgement is a PvE hand cannon, Eyasluna is a PvE/PvP hand cannon, Fatebringer is a PvE/PvP hand cannon, Warden’s Law is a PvE hand cannon, Igneous is a PvE/PvP hand cannon, Word of Crota is a PvE hand cannon, there are definitely quite a few PvE hand cannons.
Firefly + one for all was what I wanted and got a gold one last night with those perks. Now I just need like 4 more gold ones with different perks
Thats would im looking for, not many legendary weapons seem like they can hang with exotics & specials. That rolls seems like it can
You don't really need to get a golden one for every roll.
@@lordgrub12345golden = cool
@@lordgrub12345need no? WANT? YES
I have that roll and its great,loving it so far
Firefly + One For All is a match made in heaven. My one problem with OFA has always been having to consciously shoot three different enemies. I know it's very simple and easy to do but it's something I am literally always thinking about every single time I'm in a fight and it's just annoying to me. Firefly is the opposite, literally shoot enemies the way you always do and get rewarded. Together, you basically get the benefits of OFA with the braindead ease-of-use of Firefly, since Firefly's explosions proc OFA
I agree with this. Shooting multiple enemies isn't hard to do at all, but when you're actively thinking about the perk to get that damage bonus, it makes everything feel weird
I've never used One for All because I never wanted to do the OCD counting game when I fight.
BUT, explosive payload + one for all is STUPID. If you shoot into any group of adds once, explosive immediately hits 3 targets and gives you one for all. You always have OFA up and running as long as you're shooting into any group. Pair that with minor spec + kinetic surge mod and any other buff... Holy crap. It hits like a 140 RPM machine gun.
I got a fire fly explosive tremors roll and that shii is crazyyyy
Explosive payload > firefly for harder content
Dont forget all BRAVE weapons will be able to be enhanced when final shape comes around
Edit: would you all chill the fuck out. It's all shiny and non shiny versions of the brave weapons. Bungie told us that we could enhance all four traits from the shiny ones when the final shape comes around so chill out please. This also goes for Slammer Wild style summoner and the Prophet, tusk of the boar and multimach CCX and all recently added prophecy weapons.
All shiny* BRAVE weapons.
just shiny ones you can enhance? Thought i was normal as well@arkonwolves7192
@@arkonwolves7192It’s only the shiny ones?
@@arkonwolves7192nope, it’s all brave weapons.
@@arkonwolves7192 this is false
Good to see a weapon from the leviathan raid get some love, i didn't use midnight coup I prefered ghost primus at the time now I'm definitely gonna start using it.
I miss my dawg Ghost Primus
Explosive Payload + frenzy is an insane roll for endgame pve. You have an almost permanent 30% dmg buff, max handling and reload, and tons of extra range for free, no kills required
Na considering you can get the same roll on the timelost fatebringer so getting it on this is worthless
@dfillio8993 not at all, midnight coup has better stats, has one of the best origin traits in the game (fatebringer has none), can be enhanced, and is way easier to farm. This gun made fatebringer worthless, not the other way around
@@dfillio8993 I would say timelost fatebringer is the guaranteed good roll. While midnight coup if you grind and get lucky with the roll is better due to origin trait.
@@TDKR21104 easier to farm? Na not even close I take it you’ve never done master Templar it litterally takes less than 2 min per run and you’re guaranteed the timelost fatebringer onslaught 10 waves of legend take 10 minutes at a minimum and you’re not even guaranteed the midnight coup even with atunements I’ve had multiple 50 wave runs where I only get 2 weapons im atuned to
@@dfillio8993 farming Templar is so lame and nobody wants to lfg to farm one boss for that long
Explosive payload currently hurts your damage falloff, even after the changes. (you can still 3 tap, just not as far) Bungie didn't change anything with explosive payload directly, they just buffed the base handcannon damage. You do 78 damage with the perk on, and 81 without the perk. I could literally take my fatebringer, barely miss the 3 tap with explosive payload, but then swap the perk to something else and get the 3 tap slightly out of optimal range. Would recommend looking into this, this will hurt damage perks that help make your gun more forgiving. The optimal range reduction is very slight, only about half a meter but it still matters.
No one has been talking about this. Until bungie adjusts this, I'm probably staying away from the perk.
Yup. It's especially bad on 120s like Bottom Dollar, True Prophecy, Targeted Redaction etc since they didn't do anything about the perk and only buffed 140s. The perk basically just makes guns worse now.
Payloads still geeked for PVE and that’s really where it shines. The PvP roll doesn’t involve payload and imo is moving target, opening shot
@@scrotumscratcher2474 for pve yeah its fine. Also for pvp I'd 100% go for zen moment. Opening shot's range increase is nice but you're losing out on the extra aim assist. Zen moment helps offset the lower stability by reducing flinch. Stacks up faster on handcannons too. Moving target is great tho.
@@Narfwak Yeah. Imo it doesn't need to extend falloff since it already provides extra flinch to enemies, but hurting the range and resilience checks feels terrible.
No, they fixed that
In the middle of my quest to unlock the Midnight coup attunement...and had a kinetic tremor/firefly drop and I'm like "okay, I'm done!" it feels so good
I took one with Enlightened Action and Zen Moment into Crucible and immediately became everyone's problem.
Really?
Pretty sure you was getting shredded left and right from smgs lol🤣
My favorite video on rolls, short & sweet with clear need to know info. Thanks
I never raided back before Beyond Light but I've grown to love this beauty of a hand cannon, Explosive Payload and Rampage makes it's firing sound seem accurate to how it hits
Been trying to get that roll. I have ep and frenzy.
Manage to get a Firefly Kinetic Tremors roll prior to this vid releasing and it feels so nice to use in pve. Love ur vids Fallout! 😆
Firefly and Frenzy is my personal god roll, I love it!
My 2 first onslaught missions, got explosive payload with one for all, then firefly with one for all. 🎉
ty for covering this! This will help me narrow down my farming a bit. 👍 Tho this is one weapon I will probably hoard every S tier roll I can when I get the extra time.
Love my Firefly, Tremors combo. It puts in work.
Yep.. except when you're doing easy content.. Then you never set off Kinetic Tremors.. Still fun though
Other creators: the roll you don't want is firefly + kinetic tremors.
Fallout and myself: The roll you want is firefly and kinetic tremors.
Seriously, why are content creators telling people to avoid that roll? Its amazing. Maybe they just want to keep it to themselves.
It's SO good, it feels like an exotic perk that slipped through the cracks and makes you able to tackle groups with a HC from ranges you have no business shooting from even in GM's. Thank God one youtuber gets it. Also only gonna get better once it's enhancable.
because its bad. its fine that u want it for fun but realistically they are the worst combo. firefly requires a headshot but kinetic tremours does not do precision damage and may kill off the ad before u could get the precision shot
@@Kait07_agaisnt mobs, it wouldn't matter because the enemy is either exploding via firefly or getting killed by kinetic tremors.
Win win
@@acardenasjr1340 you quite literally described the disadvantage. they only work separately and not together. explosive payload and kinetic tremours work at the same time, that's why it is sought after
@@Kait07_ damn. That's crazy.
I got a Fire Fly + Kinetic Tremors Coup and dismantled it when I got those perks on Hung Jury. The faster RPMs on HG allows more frequent KC procs on big targets. And the snappy reload with FF allows you to double down on mag size
I have a firefly/one for all roll and it absolutely shreds in PvE. It's an insanely fun hand cannon and I've enjoyed testing different rolls and just goofing around with it.
“Kinetic tremors and explosive payload don’t mix”
Me - “What! Why!?”
He mostly means in synergy. Players thought EP would add double hit towards KT procs which is not the case.
That said? EP + KT gives a ton of damage and imo is probably the best for high tier content where you have tougher enemies. For low tier red bars? EP helps kill quicker which is almost sort of counter intuitive to KT which needs enemies alive long enough to get hit by 6 shots.
I would definitely hold onto it regardless.
Kinetic tremors is trash on midnight coup
@@JDxxatteis 🗿
Great video Fallout as always. My favorite PvE roll I just got is the one that eluded you. Firefly/Kinetic tremors. Only played a few rounds with it but it slaps. I really want explosive/OFA for PvE and explosive/Zen for PvP. Wish me luck! Good luck in getting that firefly/tremors roll. Took me over 40+ guns to get.
I'm glad I kept my firefly kinetic tremors roll, cause I was going for explosive payload kinetic temors instead and bagged it along the way. Absolutely love this gun makes me fall in love with 140 handcannons again
I have Explosive Payload/One for All and yes it wrecks everything in PVE. I took it into 50 wave Onslaught and it kicks so much ass, just point, shoot, explode, profit. I will try this in a GM next chance I get since we have Unstoppable HC in the artifact this season.
I would run enlightened + zen enlightened gives handling and it maxes out after like 2 hits. kinda like eye of the storm but worse
@@jonathancotter7429 if its worse than why would you want to use it? just use a eye of the storm hc if u want that
@Kait07_ I do. I run a Zen, eye of the storm, austringer, I also run a moving target, Eye, Judgment on smaller maps.
I'm hunting a max range, moving target zen coup though for cope
@@jonathancotter7429definitely doable, but I prefer damage perks
"Good god, that gun f***s" lmao
Firefly/One For All is a lot of fun. Have it on Hung Jury and now on the coup! Still chasing firefly/kinetic.
Keeping the outlaw/zen moment for a rainy PvP day.
I love my Firefly+Frenzy roll sooooo much. Oh how I've missed that thing from back in the days. Was my favorite hand cannon in year 1 PvE and it might become my favorite again. Considering all the competition it has now that's a strong thing to say.
Another point to mention is that with a Firefly+Frenzy roll you can fully spec into range and stability to your liking (and luck ofc) because either one of the perks bumps reload to 100 and Frenzy ofc bumps handling to 100.
I wanted a God Roll Mountaintop and Edge Transit (I like Grenades) but even with attunement all I get is HUNG JURY AND SUCCESSION
same dude
It’s a legendary kinetic hand cannon. Will I farm it? Sure. Would I regret it if I didn’t? Nah
That's crazy bro
Absolutely tweaking. Kinetic HCs are as powerful as exotics with the right perks and it’s opens up energy and heavy to be your exotic. Learn the game smfh
the roll I'd want: explosive / frenzy
do I already have that roll on ANOTHER kinetic 140? yes
do I NEED a different one with a origin trait... naw
@@-CIoud You'll be able to enhance them in time.
@@photosimonson that 's what you would want. Not the best roll.
I just got a shiny last night with hammer-forged, flared mag, explosive/moving target and one4all/opening shot with a range masterwork. Can’t wait to try that sucker out when I get home from work. 😊👍
First one i got was a firefly/kinetic tremor roll. It is indeed a slapper and a clapper. Im finding that i really love kinetic weapons on arc subclasses, and ive been using arclock a lot for onslaught. This and mountaintop with auto/recombination has been great
Blew my RNG load on a Coup with Smallbore, acc rounds, explosive/enlightened, Zen moment shiny. Havent taken it for a spin in PvP yet, but cant wait to do so.
thats trash lmao
@@woodybeastin no it isn't lol. explosive payload + zen moment is the pvp godroll. smallbore and acc rounds are also the best perks in slot. you have no idea what you are talking about. if he has a range MW it would be a 5/5 pvp godroll
@@woodybeastinWhat’s he bragging about lol
@@woodybeastin ...that's a god roll if it has range masterwork lmao
Then people can just use a crafted austringer and probably dump all over it@@Kait07_
also for Pve DO NOT SLEEP ON DESPRETE MEASURES, its going to go insane when prismatic drops and already is going nuts if you run a void devour build seeing you just throw out a nade and you pretty much have max stacks that is 30% and its able to be refreshed. don't sleep on it.
its cope relax
Problem with Desperate Measures is it's 30%, which sounds like a lot (that's Bait and Switch!) until you realize exotic primaries get 40% extra damage to red bars just for existing, which is the enemy you'd most care about shooting a primary at in the first place.
@@life-destiny1196 i didn't even know that was a thing, thank you for the info. however, you still can make use of a good legendary primary like that if you want an exotic in another slot.
The issue with this is you have to jump through hoops to get a 7 second 30% damage buff. One for all in the same slot just needs there to be 3 enemies to get a 10 second 35% damage buff. I don't see why you wouldn't just want one for all.
@Shawstins not saying it's worth the tradeoff, but desperate measures is refreshable, one for all isn't, so once you get it going, you can basically keep it up 24/7 vs one for all will fall off and you have to refresh it
Favorite pvp roll zen moment and moving target or opening shot with a range masterwork
Got mine golden with Firefly/Shoot to loot and Tremors. Just what I wanted. Easily the best legendary kinetic PvE HC and probably the best legendary kinetic weapon in general.
I hate grinding 😃
Then don't play looter shooters...
@@StuffedFlumpyea but there is grinding and then there is destiny grinding XD
@@StuffedFlumpever think he enjoys the other aspects of the games?
@@StuffedFlump but I love this game
@@JPooger Sure, but that's not what the comment said😉
You will 100% regret grinding this game
Tru
Was watching and loading up. Next thing I know that outro hit, holy smokes happy 420
I got Enlightened Action + Kinetic Tremors and it’s so nice, as long as I hit shots I get a reload speed buff and kinetic tremors is amazing in harder content
In PVP Midnight is niche who can't compete with Austringer, Eyasluna and Fatebringer this guns just has more better range, stability stats and 90 AA on Midnight can't nothing)) Especially when Eyasluna and Fatebringer has 85 AA.
And also we will get in 30th April Luna's Howl which be also much much better than Midnight.
So if to grind this gun it's only for PVE.
Yeah and ppl don’t understand that with mods u get 90 plus aim assist on most hcs 😂
Sure if only anything other than MOTHERFUCKING EDGE TRANSMIT, HUNG JRY, and fucking recluse would drop anytime soon. Ran 4 level 50 runs and thats all I fucking get
I legit got double hung jury while focusing on edge transit. 0.5% of happenning btw
You do have Midnight Coup attuned right? In case you don’t know, you need to attune whichever weapon you want to drop more often.
why you putting edge transit in the list lol, respect the glowup
Have you tried attuning to it and looting the chest next to Shaxx? It costs 10 trophies every time you dip into the chest and if you're attuned it has a much higher chance of dropping. I had hundreds of trophies stored up from running onslaught and I got like 15 different rolls. I'd really recommend not focusing it for PvP though. It feels good, and in PvE it's absolutely S-Tier, but Austringer, Eyasluna, Rose... they are literally all better.
Plus it's basically going to be instantly left in the dust the moment Luna's Howl is available.
As a fellow auto rifle fan boy (not been into hand cannons since D1) I've been enjoying the recently. The trust is still a little gem imo. Got an incandescent roll that puts in work. Also got one from crota with the wombo demo/adrenaline.
Going to farm out a great MC for future playing
It feels great. I’ve tried multiple rolls. Zen explosive feels best. firefly and a dmg perk for legendary ace feelings. Needs 2-3 meters extra but it’s solid for dueling
Its a primary. Not much can make it game breaking in either game mode
Kinetics are getting buffed on TFS by adding progression on both light and darkness for Transcendence
@@guiltyspark3434 That's only if you use Prismatic subclasses tho
@@cerulean5032Why wouldn’t you use the class? Lol 😂
@@V8ER88 Might not be that good. We'll see on launch.
@@guiltyspark3434 prismatic gonna be ass except on hunter, and hunter will just be grapple melee spam to solo 1 phase raid bosses. Elemental primaries like sunshot are just so dominant with subclass synergy specifically with resto, combined with every best special being in the kinetic slot, legendary primaries are already in a tough spot, kinetic ones especially
last night i got a shiny midnight coup with smallbore, accurized rounds, and range masterwork. the perks were swapping between either zen moment + moving target for pvp or firefly + kinetic tremors for pve. needless to say i will never be taking it off. i recognize that i may be the envy of many players right now
First drop I got was hammer forged, tac mag, firefly, kinetic tremor and I haven't stopped using it since. Just feels incredible
I got a fluted, flared with range mw firefly, kt roll.. pretty godly
I've been lucky enough to get both explosive payload and firefly kinetic tremor rolls multiple times. My go-to loadout has been Scatter Signal, Epochal Integration, Dragons Breath on Solar Titan, but Ill probably be running a new build shortly and I'm really looking forward to running Midnight Coup
EP and KT are really good combo. i usually play GM, so it's the best kinetic hand cannon so far.
Also, FF and Rampage for usual PVE contents. Both are really easy to proc
I just got a Firefly + Kinetic Tremors this morning. I don't like hand cannons (aside from Sunshot), but this has made me open my mind about using weapon archetypes I don't like using... like sniper rifles. I also got a Succession with Recon + Box Breathing & somehow I like using snipers. It's not the best roll, but shit - I'm never gonna have the chance to craft Whisper because I'm not good and I don't really have the time to get good (all I can muster is "meh," which, to me, is better than "bad").
I was actually really intrigued on the attrition orbs roll with tremors and damn that thing gets your super back so fast on star eaters. Goodbye bad juju!
I just got a shiny payload/moving target and one for all/opening shot!!! Really happy with that roll
Im in love with the Midnight Coup again. I used it when it was an incredibly rare drop from the Leviathan raids, I missed it for years and IT FEELS SO GOOD to have back. I missed it more than fatebringer tbh. (Btw thank you for Pronouncing it Correctly)
I got the Firefly+Kinetic Tremors on my first non-curated drop. Can’t wait to try it out!
I have a coup with 70 range, firefly and tremors. Its amazing.
And a blast furnace with those perks too.
this convinced me to swap atunements from elsie’s rifle for the weekend. gotta get that firefly roll.
I got a firefly + one for all along with decent PvP perks on the same gun. I haven’t thought I’d enjoy this gun this much in pve 😳
I just got the Firefly/Tremors roll last night - I had it on the HJ SR4 and really wanted it on the MC.
I'd also throw in Explosive Payload plus Desperate Measures. It's a 30% but you can keep it up as long as you get kills and you can get the x3 off of a single grenade or melee rapid kill. For anyone who doesn't really like that one for all timer.
I managed to get a Shiney attrition orbs/Explosive payload, kinetic tremors/ rampage roll, pretty happy with that
Best one I've gotten is an Explosive/Zen Moment with Range MW and that'll be a favorite goto for PvP.
My first shiny was explosive payload | attrition orb / rampage | kinetic tremor. Pretty satified with it but I'll still look for a firefly one.
I have the kinetic tremors and firefly roll, feels amazing. But my favorite has been my shiny one with explosive and frenzy, free damage for just using the gun lol
Yeah that's what the frenzy perk does
In my first couple of onslaught runs, I got a shiny Coup with Explosive Payload/Firefly in column 3 and Kinetic Tremors in column 4 lol
Good info, thank you.
I managed to snag a firefly kinetic trimmers shiny roll and was the first time in a long time where I jumped out of my chair and was so excited 😅
Haven't done that since season of the splicer when I finally got my subsistence rampage roll chroma rush.
Got a firefly+tremors roll last night. Threw it in the vault because I wasn't sure. Guess it's a good thing I didn't shard it.
Not a handcannon harold, but got the firefly and KT roll, and, to quote todd howard, "it just works". Which is to say if you want a HC to put out for you when the chips are down this is the play.
EP + Firefly is the roll I run on Zaouli’s, can confirm it’s amazing
The second coup I got had Firefly and One For All a few later, and I got Explosive Payload and One For All.
Both roles are great, but imo I love Firefly more because solar go boom
Firefly counts as solar weapon damage btw, so you can use it for solar synergy
Honestly, the coup's unique model and firing sound are enough to make me use it
Has ALWAYS been my favorite weapon and i even kept it since levi!
Got Midnight Coup with max range firefly and KT and it's such a fun gun!
Firefly and one for all is godly, both perks activate each other! Must have!
It just has always sounded so crisp. And looked gorgeous.
I got a shiny with attrition orbs kinetic tremors, glad to hear it’s has a cool interaction because I tossed it in the vault cause I already had a firefly/tremors shiny with desperate measures
I got a shiny coup with firefly and kinetic tremours in onslought. Love it
I very rarely do PvP and even then I'm not inclined towards HCs, and in PvE it's only when there's a champ mod active, but I'm really enjoying this thing.
the issue i have is that coup is in the wrong slot. My utility special since it's debut has been a disorienting grenade, auto loading, chill clip Lingering Dread. That thing hardly ever comes off, and there are many more tempting options than a 140 hand cannon to take its place
Midnight coup never dropped for me when running leviathan. So I’m glad it’s back, especially with the new perks.
Who's the hand model for the Manscaped ad? The gentle caress of the trimmer is something else.
🤣
Fallout talking about Firefly/Kinetic Tremors, and I have one sitting in my vault that I have yet to try out lmao. Gonna break it out just for you, my guy.
I'm so happy, i've gotten a shiny with shoot to loot, kinetic tremors and explosive zen moment. the all in one package for pve and pvp
Literally got a brave midnight with firefly/attrition orbs and kinetic tremors/frenzy so im pretty happy
My favorite drop so far is a shiny with kinetic tremors/opening shot and firefly/explosive payload. Have yet to try it out though, suppose that's the plan for today.
Got enlightened action and zen moment on one the other day. Going to try it in crucible when I get off work and see how much of an issue I become
I've been grinding it. All night tonight. Three full 50 wave runs, two of them legend. I've gotten so.. many.. rolls, but none of the ones I want. Pain.
The first explosive payload roll I got was rampage... haven't gotten another another one yet. Got a firefly/outlaw roll though
Im Loving midnight coupe. I started using it to complete the quest. And damn its been fun especially in crucible.
I actually got a holofoil Firefly + Tremors last night while looking for a Firefly + Rampage.
Glad to see it's not something I should shard.
Opening and explosive. Awesome, had i not forgotten how to aim due to AR meta
I got firefly with kinetic tremors and it's so fun. Im going for fun perk combos on most of these weapons
This with firefly will free up that secondary slot. Gonna be dropping a few hours tonight I guess.
firefly and kinetic is amazing my new favorite hand cannon
I got the Shiny Godroll with Firefly/Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors/Frenzy. Its a beast.
I would just like to say that the first onslaught run on tuesday i got a shiny midnight coup with firefly/attrition orbs and one for all/desperate measures. I haven't taken it off since lmao
Got an explosive payload, kinetic tremors role. It’s pretty solid
The sheer amount of knowledge this game requires is overwhelming. As a new light who just cameback to destiny any tips would be welcome
Just got a MC shiny last night with Firefly and Kinetic Tremeors. Woot woot.