Caedrel Reacts To Worlds 2022 Group Draw

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  • @lopi2784
    @lopi2784 Pƙed rokem +227

    Something Caedrel has overlooked is that FNC is FORCED to be in group A if they get out, because only MAD (LEC 4th seed) is immune to the region restriction rule, which would make MAD go to group B. So assuming DRX and RNG gets out of groups, and that NO wildcard gets out the groups are already decided and FNC is locked A

    • @Meander_
      @Meander_ Pƙed rokem +6

      SGB prolly goes in instead of MAD but it won't change anything

    • @wyrw
      @wyrw Pƙed rokem +5

      @@Meander_ I'd take BYG over SGB personally

    • @peakester3191
      @peakester3191 Pƙed rokem +3

      Something overlooked is the fact MAD is in the same group as DRX and RNG and that 2 teams per group make it out of play-ins so its technically impossible for DRX RNG and MAD to make it out of play ins

    • @aaawa2074
      @aaawa2074 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@Meander_ how is EG not better than SGB

    • @wyrw
      @wyrw Pƙed rokem +23

      @@peakester3191 That's incorrect. 1st in each group goes through, then 2nd will play winner of 3rd vs 4th of the other group, so you can have 3 from one group advance.

  • @maxmustermann5849
    @maxmustermann5849 Pƙed rokem +312

    biggest diffrence this worlds is that playins are gonna be exiting to watch

    • @radekhruby142
      @radekhruby142 Pƙed rokem +42

      Yeah one of major region doesnt make it out.

    • @yurifan2537
      @yurifan2537 Pƙed rokem +15

      Major regions stomping the minor regions? Yep, excited

    • @poom323
      @poom323 Pƙed rokem +8

      @@yurifan2537 atleast in Group A all team has chance to go to main stage.

    • @joangallegoq
      @joangallegoq Pƙed rokem +4

      MAD not making it out is very deserved because they lost two BO5, It seems like they don't work hard, Armut can't even get challenger, Elyoya always streaming and not try harding, I know there are some scrims but a lot of teams don't work hard since they are already qualified.

    • @abdallaosama574
      @abdallaosama574 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@radekhruby142 Aka MAD

  • @vento5314
    @vento5314 Pƙed rokem +601

    People also need to remember. There is one thing DK wants more than winning LCK or Worlds and that is beating G2.

    • @richmont9557
      @richmont9557 Pƙed rokem +21

      Which can be both a good and a bad thing for them

    • @johnnyairplane2896
      @johnnyairplane2896 Pƙed rokem +112

      DK really took that 2019 elimination personally

    • @radmiral9048
      @radmiral9048 Pƙed rokem +14

      @@johnnyairplane2896 ye its korean nerd mentality

    • @ksjsjhss3475
      @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem +84

      @@radmiral9048 what does g2 players sht talking damwon and damwon wanting revenge have to do to being nerd? Sounds like youre salty that eu got humiliated

    • @Caell
      @Caell Pƙed rokem +11

      @@ksjsjhss3475 nah its actually korean nerd mentality XD once korean team loses the team that won is a public enemy nr1 they are the biggest gatekeepers even G2 fans arent that bonkers if they dont win the revenge match they get death treaths XD

  • @unicorneliawild4965
    @unicorneliawild4965 Pƙed rokem +165

    NA soloq will tilt eastern teams more than wildcard regions or EU. Thank you for hosting worlds NA! :D

    • @wanyaisneed3972
      @wanyaisneed3972 Pƙed rokem +3

      Too bad they won't have to play solo queue if they don't want to. Na champions queue is moving with the tournament.

    • @sailing5874
      @sailing5874 Pƙed rokem +23

      Eastern teams are already planning to go to NA late, so that they can scrim each other in asia.

    • @seaweedbanana4663
      @seaweedbanana4663 Pƙed rokem

      100ms lets go

    • @matthewminogue3276
      @matthewminogue3276 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@sailing5874 Exactly, that kind of sucks... There should be a rule that they have to make it to the region 2 weeks in advance if not 3.

    • @ksjsjhss3475
      @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem +23

      @@matthewminogue3276 why should there be that rule tho? Asian teams earned their rights to stay on their region for as long as possible. Its not their problem that other region sucks. Its just like sports you would always wants to practice against good players too. Not like a team C or D

  • @Pookiebear
    @Pookiebear Pƙed rokem +91

    With all the problems with the worlds format, I do think this year will be interesting. Good groups and it depends how the teams perform. Lots of question Marks makes for a lot of intrigue

    • @byochii8197
      @byochii8197 Pƙed rokem +2

      Its feels like atleast to me that only groups will be good the rest will be Rift Rivals Asia. I personally like that but some people dont wanna see that in Knock outs

    • @Ranoiaetep
      @Ranoiaetep Pƙed rokem +1

      @@byochii8197 Personally, I don’t mind watching Asia only teams in semi, with the top 2 teams from each region fighting each others. But having to watch china first seed beat Korean 4th, or Korean 1st beat Chinese 1st is just too much

    • @byochii8197
      @byochii8197 Pƙed rokem

      @@Ranoiaetep yes that’s true!

  • @af9lln
    @af9lln Pƙed rokem +267

    Still have hope that flying oysters will be make it past groups

    • @henpaisentai2294
      @henpaisentai2294 Pƙed rokem +5

      That group has geng and rng how will they do it

    • @af9lln
      @af9lln Pƙed rokem +90

      @@henpaisentai2294 The power of copium

    • @luma7777
      @luma7777 Pƙed rokem +34

      @@af9lln and the power of oysters

    • @jonathanknypstra2137
      @jonathanknypstra2137 Pƙed rokem +12

      Lmao i started dying laughing when i saw their name get drawn couldn’t believe thats a real org and pool 2 😂

    • @fafiteee
      @fafiteee Pƙed rokem +7

      @@jonathanknypstra2137 they're basically machi esports from 2020, their org just got bought out

  • @gregpartridge7554
    @gregpartridge7554 Pƙed rokem +61

    I think FNC is guaranteed group A if they pass play-in, since the same region rule is only lifted for MAD if they both make it.

    • @lazydk2654
      @lazydk2654 Pƙed rokem

      Yup. Thry still have to follow thr rules.
      I mean they could go into D, but that could only happen if RNG didnt make it out đŸ€Ł

    • @ksjsjhss3475
      @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@lazydk2654 rogue have more chance of winning worlds than RNG not making it out of playins 😂 its like RNG is already locked on D 100%

    • @cooldude360an
      @cooldude360an Pƙed rokem

      @@ksjsjhss3475 that is so cap
 Fnatic winning world over CFO or 100T getting lucky with a best of 1 over RNG. Fnatic a 3rd seed from EU has to win series against China and KR, remember FPX
.

    • @ksjsjhss3475
      @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@cooldude360an what are you saying my guy? I said eu chance of winning worlds is much much higher than chance of rng losing at playins

    • @cooldude360an
      @cooldude360an Pƙed rokem

      @@ksjsjhss3475 my bad read it wrong, thought you meant group

  • @Bowserguy62
    @Bowserguy62 Pƙed rokem +296

    Worlds is very interesting this year. A lot of teams will be coinflippy in groups. Then the next stage is gonna dope

    • @flamelibra3362
      @flamelibra3362 Pƙed rokem +7

      this is like the least coinflippy group draw in years lol

    • @Bowserguy62
      @Bowserguy62 Pƙed rokem +9

      @@flamelibra3362 Huh it's B01s a shit ton of teams are gonna be coinflippy. B05s yeah then it'll be less

    • @giorgos346
      @giorgos346 Pƙed rokem +5

      bro worls is not interesting at all thsi year there is a big possibilty that after groups is gonna be only lck vs lpl

    • @mooseroom
      @mooseroom Pƙed rokem +7

      @@giorgos346 that's not the issue with worlds in itself though. lcs and lec just haven't shown the improvement that lpl for example has

    • @aysitalownatlanch1052
      @aysitalownatlanch1052 Pƙed rokem +3

      Yep, besides GenG. Every team are inconsistent af. Also the defending champs are not even top 3 favourite of winning it lmao

  • @ImGonnaOilYouUp
    @ImGonnaOilYouUp Pƙed rokem +26

    Rogue and GAM looks like a really fun match up

  • @rosskasal4166
    @rosskasal4166 Pƙed rokem +629

    All this does is show how badly Worlds needs double elim. Top 3 seeds make it out with Top 2 from each group getting double elim and the 4 3rd seeds making a lower bracket

    • @Jack-yu4vq
      @Jack-yu4vq Pƙed rokem +26

      Double elim does absolutely nothing to change this

    • @reglearnschess2202
      @reglearnschess2202 Pƙed rokem +96

      @@Jack-yu4vq just double the misery for losing teams

    • @haven4304
      @haven4304 Pƙed rokem +127

      @@Jack-yu4vq double elim means that there's at least a Bo3 for the losing team, instead of just relying on Bo1 results.

    • @Markuzz777
      @Markuzz777 Pƙed rokem +69

      @@Jack-yu4vq how doesn't it do nothing? it makes it that there are more teams in the knockout stage(3 instead of 2), which means, there are more teams that are going to play bo5 which are way more exciting than bo1s, the double elimination is good also because there are going to be way more bo5, which is good because we have only 10 international bo5s a year which is a crime. And the last thing which the double elim does better compared to single elim is that the 2nd best team will be in the finals for sure, because in single elim it easly could happen that the 1st and 2nd best team match up in the quarter finals or semifinals.

    • @Wurdox
      @Wurdox Pƙed rokem +18

      You need the DOTA 2 format for TI. Basically, groups determines your playoff seed. If you are top 4 in your group, you get seeded in the winners bracket. Seeds 5-8 get seeded in the losers bracket. Lastly, Seed 9 is eliminated. You can tweak it to suit the Worlds groups, so seeds 1 and 2, winner bracket and seeds 3 and 4 losers bracket or seed 4 is eliminated.

  • @callumanon3917
    @callumanon3917 Pƙed rokem +31

    My favorite thing about analysis for the west potentially getting out of groups is that no one can in good faith say "these western teams look like they'd beat these eastern teams with both teams paying at their best" so it's always intangibles that end up being assessed like "this team could be too inexperienced at bo1" or "this team don't show up when it matters" which are of course all valid analyses, just when you notice that it starts to feel a bit more doomed. You also can't massively compare their play based on eye test because we don't actually know the whole reason teams look and play certain ways regionally. We can make guesses but we can't be sure so it's hard to eye test compare anyway. Eastern teams still seem stronger though

    • @jynxycats
      @jynxycats Pƙed rokem +4

      History is on the side of these LCK lower seeds, until they falter, it's hard to bet against. Only 1 LCK team EVER since Riot used the Season 4 format has ever not advanced. This year the 3rd/4th seed are kinda weak in comparison to T1/Gen.g, so we'll see how they do versus the past trends

    • @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV
      @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV Pƙed rokem +3

      ​@@jynxycats Only if Damwon play horribly, though. If we actually get Damwon with ShowMaker, Canyon, Nuguri all playing well, that would also be scary.

    • @seinti109
      @seinti109 Pƙed rokem

      @@jynxycats LCK teams are good in Bo1s, except for those 2 times when the Final was a series of Bo1s, Rift Rivals 2017 and 2018. They finally won in 2019. Same thing can't be said about them during Bo5s, in recent years.

  • @crispybanana3198
    @crispybanana3198 Pƙed rokem +39

    just sack play ins, make big group stage that goes into a double elimination with more teams, that makes it more games more fun and even more undeniably best team in the world winning this

    • @sashin2661
      @sashin2661 Pƙed rokem +22

      Indeed something like 4 6 team groups where top 4 make it out and we get a 16 team bracket with 1-2 seeded into upper bracket and 3-4 seeded into lower, that would be crazy hype

    • @AkshayPrasadrocks
      @AkshayPrasadrocks Pƙed rokem +10

      I don't even get why playins are a thing. Just let them play in groups, and increase group size

    • @jynxycats
      @jynxycats Pƙed rokem +2

      This 1000%. Take what DOTA does, and run with it. The 'draw' portion of this format is so stupid, when you have teams getting bad/good luck, why is that a thing Riot still thinks makes sense? The group stage event should be as even split as humanly possible, and this 4 team thing is not it.

    • @crispybanana3198
      @crispybanana3198 Pƙed rokem

      @@jynxycats yeah exactly 16 teams into 4x4 into quarters is the most basic, boring tournament format you can have

    • @HeartLancer
      @HeartLancer Pƙed rokem

      I like this, sounds similar to the valorant champions tournament going rn and I am enjoying it.

  • @jynxycats
    @jynxycats Pƙed rokem +15

    The LCK #3/4 seeds honestly feel like they have the most to prove. Both weren't really that special in the regular season or playoffs, but history is on their side. How these LCK squads perform could make or break LEC.

    • @tressil3607
      @tressil3607 Pƙed rokem

      DWK wasn't the most consistent in the regular season but they took T1 to five games in playoffs. G2 has a decent chance to get out, but they usually drop a dumb game to someone. GAM isn't in that group, but I can see G2 dropping a game to the 4th seed.

    • @arturoflash
      @arturoflash Pƙed rokem +1

      @@tressil3607 Buffaloes going to make it out over DRX and go into G2 group XD

    • @potheadesens8725
      @potheadesens8725 Pƙed rokem +1

      thats waht people said about HLE last year and they ended up making into quarters lmao

  • @stairsatop7584
    @stairsatop7584 Pƙed rokem +6

    "I don't think it's that bad. It looks bad" xD

  • @heycite778
    @heycite778 Pƙed rokem +246

    I feel like Group B is most interesting. I think JDG will get out for sure but then it'll have to be either G2 or DK which are both insane teams.

    • @Jack_Gibby
      @Jack_Gibby Pƙed rokem +23

      Group A is the group of death but group B has the biggest opportunity for upsets

    • @tomsnow2872
      @tomsnow2872 Pƙed rokem +20

      Group A is also bloody with either fnc or mad vs edg skt c9.

    • @princesstoni8116
      @princesstoni8116 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@tomsnow2872 I hope its mad, I feel like fanatic would choke but mad looks like they have more life and focus in their gameplay

    • @creatinepowder167
      @creatinepowder167 Pƙed rokem +6

      This worlds meta favours damwon, with the right picks Damwon are a top tier team. I mean they still have the core that reached msi finals/won worlds then worlds finals all back to back to back

    • @bendax693
      @bendax693 Pƙed rokem +42

      @@princesstoni8116 how can you write something like this when Mad Lions did not win a single bo5 this year while Fnatic did Not choke and Made a mirracle run to 3. place?

  • @deathgaming2160
    @deathgaming2160 Pƙed rokem +1

    Worlds this year are super stacked, I'm so excited!!

  • @bpnn2428
    @bpnn2428 Pƙed rokem +11

    So basically we don't know who will win, but we know who will lose.

  • @abdulhafyzhuzairy8315
    @abdulhafyzhuzairy8315 Pƙed rokem +25

    if its really lpl/lck i just want them all to peak. imagine how good that would be

    • @Kruku190
      @Kruku190 Pƙed rokem +1

      They will lpl and lck was so good this year it's insane when Europe was not even Medicare boring games

    • @ovs4744
      @ovs4744 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@Kruku190 lck was pretty bad other than t1 and geng

    • @bowser5388
      @bowser5388 Pƙed rokem

      @@ovs4744 tbh t1 was disapointing in summer too. Zeus mostly 1v9ing and playoffs they had no good teams before finals KT/DK were disgusting bad before gauntlet started.

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII Pƙed rokem +4

      @@ovs4744 ​lol what? Alright I'll just assume that you don't actually watch LCK. Anyone who watches at least all major regions would know that top 6 LCK (DK, LSB, KT, DRX) are still better than ANY LCS-LEC teams, with the exception of maybe C9 and RGE *if* they can consistently perform at their Finals form (their playoff run was not that great).

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII Pƙed rokem +5

      if you consider anyone other than T1 and GEN as "pretty bad" then what do you consider literally all western teams as 😂
      Oh man I kinda feel bad for them tbh, you're being too mean

  • @haoye2413
    @haoye2413 Pƙed rokem +2

    T1 and EDG always face eachother in the same group, its quite funny. On EDG's vod reaction to the group draw, Meiko was like last time it was C9 T1 EDG we got smacked by C9.

  • @baitgoat5879
    @baitgoat5879 Pƙed rokem +1

    By the way guys if MAD and FNC get out of playins, MAD is going group B and FNC group A cause MAD is 4th seed so they join the group which already has an EU team in it.

  • @uclocpham5615
    @uclocpham5615 Pƙed rokem +3

    Really want to see pcs and vcs teams could take down major regions (maybe 2-3 games) cause they are always the underdogs every worlds or msi

  • @WimmieWomba
    @WimmieWomba Pƙed rokem +21

    If Damwon isn't gonna let Burdel play I do see them do well at worlds

    • @Sl4yer17
      @Sl4yer17 Pƙed rokem +6

      Nuguri was undefeated during playoffs and regionals XD

    • @WimmieWomba
      @WimmieWomba Pƙed rokem +2

      @@Sl4yer17 that is what I mean if they let Nuguri play it's gonna be much better for them

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII Pƙed rokem +3

      Unfortunately, they're gonna tell Burdol to blind pick Yone again, *3 times in a row*

    • @agonyamvibalent4148
      @agonyamvibalent4148 Pƙed rokem +2

      you got my word man, DK’s coatching staff have rotten brain or why did they pick burden
oh, no , burdol again and again.
      I CANT UNDERSTAND

    • @potheadesens8725
      @potheadesens8725 Pƙed rokem +1

      Daeny says no. end of

  • @BlockofGrass
    @BlockofGrass Pƙed rokem

    SO HYPED

  • @MrSideeXD3
    @MrSideeXD3 Pƙed rokem +1

    This is going to be the hardest pick em ive ever done.

  • @azrrrrrrrr
    @azrrrrrrrr Pƙed rokem +4

    I mean you either want worlds to be fun or copetitive. If you want it to be copetitive you will be happy if we get all eastern playoffs. If you want fun than sure you can cheer for west but that just brings gameplay level down. Also you had whole year to have fun woth LCS and LEC,worlds deserves to be sacreficed to have best teams possible in playoffs

  • @oraclegenesis1366
    @oraclegenesis1366 Pƙed rokem +23

    C9 has always been NAs only hope so i have complete faith, also they got out in 2017 so, it can happen

    • @AlejandroLamKhoa
      @AlejandroLamKhoa Pƙed rokem +20

      It rained yesterday so I have faith that it will rain tomorrow. Monke logic XD

    • @oraclegenesis1366
      @oraclegenesis1366 Pƙed rokem

      @@AlejandroLamKhoa it's having faith, not guaranteeing it, it's hope, you fucking weirdo

    • @BrendanZanitCoen
      @BrendanZanitCoen Pƙed rokem +7

      @@AlejandroLamKhoa I mean SKT C9 EDG we’re in the same group 2017. With the same midlanders as today.

    • @ImGonnaOilYouUp
      @ImGonnaOilYouUp Pƙed rokem +6

      @@AlejandroLamKhoa C9 has consistently made it out of groups, have made it out of that same exact group before, and have made it out of other "group of deaths" as well, so it's not unprecedented lol

    • @jamesm2441
      @jamesm2441 Pƙed rokem

      @@AlejandroLamKhoa What too much NA hopium does to their brains KEKW

  • @callumanon3917
    @callumanon3917 Pƙed rokem +2

    it's cool to see that playins will actually matter this year since everyone can't promote, going to be a banger worlds for sure

    • @lazydk2654
      @lazydk2654 Pƙed rokem

      Its probably only gonna be one 'exciting' Bo5 between EG and MAD...

  • @TheSayk
    @TheSayk Pƙed rokem +8

    I have thought about all the possible outcomes and RNG and DRX will 100% make it out of Play-Ins, FNC will most likely make it out too and then we have 4 teams that will compete for the final spot, those teams being EG, MAD, DFM and SGB. DFM had made it out of Play-ins in Worlds 2021 and VCS is at the level of PCS and they didn't participate in Worlds 2021 due to Covid restrictions, so SGB could pull it off.
    As for Groups:
    From Group A: T1 and EDG make it out, C9 might not be bad, but compared to those 2, they aren't good enough, even if it is BO1s.
    From Group B: JDG make it almost for sure (almost for sure, because it's JDG...) and DK and G2 fight it out for for the other spot and it could go either way, it will depend on which version of each team shows up.
    From Group C: TES makes it out and the other spot will most likely go to RGE, but we could see an upset from DRX.
    From Group D: GEN and RNG make it out.

    • @Kargl_D
      @Kargl_D Pƙed rokem

      Mate, if DRX and RNG make it out, MAD is out in Play-Ins, only 2 teams from each group can make it

    • @Kargl_D
      @Kargl_D Pƙed rokem

      But SGB, BYG or DFM are able to

    • @eyiri7504
      @eyiri7504 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@Kargl_D
      In fact, you Can have 3 teams from the same group
      1a and 1b are qualified
      2a fight the winner of the match "3b - 4b"
      3a and 4a fight, the winner goes against 2b
      But if 2a and 3a win, that make 3 of the same group (since 1a IS qualified)

    • @TheSayk
      @TheSayk Pƙed rokem +2

      @@Kargl_D First of each Group advances to the Groups Stage. After that, A3 plays vs A4, winner plays vs B2 and winner of that advances to the Groups Stage. Same on the other side, with B3 playing vs B4, winner plays A2 and winner of that advances to the Groups Stage. Thus if MAD is B3 they can still advance to the Groups Stage.

    • @TheSayk
      @TheSayk Pƙed rokem

      @@Kargl_D Forgot about BYG, i should have also included them.

  • @jy4057
    @jy4057 Pƙed rokem +8

    lets be real. flying oysters are gonna win it all!!

  • @Samjie
    @Samjie Pƙed rokem +80

    Can we PLEASE get double elim in the future. It would make the tournament SO much better.

    • @Risicoco
      @Risicoco Pƙed rokem +17

      Double elim is boring af. Nobody really cares about the upper bracket matches, when nothing is on the line.
      FNC stomped G2 in upper bracket in Spring, didn't matter, everyone forgot, nobody cares about that bo5 anymore. Same is happening to the G2 3-0 Rogue series.
      The beauty of worlds is that you only have one shot. Miss it and you're out. That brings tension and makes the knock-out stage so exiting.

    • @ndnd7614
      @ndnd7614 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@Risicoco we should not rely solely on BO1s tho

    • @sailing5874
      @sailing5874 Pƙed rokem +3

      Get rid of BO1s or at least change the group formats eg. let different groups fight each other.
      Double Elim doesnt benefit the winners for winner bracket. If you are out in a BO5, you should be out. No 2nd chances, this is worlds.

    • @ndnd7614
      @ndnd7614 Pƙed rokem

      @@sailing5874 why not give the winners in the winner bracket a 1 game advantage? I know some esports do that

    • @sailing5874
      @sailing5874 Pƙed rokem

      @@ndnd7614 I've seen a discussion about giving the winner a 1 win advantage. But i personally feel 1 win advantage is quite huge for a BO5. Could change for a BO7 for finals but it will probably just fuck up most strats at a competitive level that some teams have.

  • @jorgegoncalves9137
    @jorgegoncalves9137 Pƙed rokem +1

    If MAD and FNC qualifies, FNC goes to group A and MAD to B because MAD is the 4th seed and by the rule they would be the ones getting in the "double EU team" group

  • @kaiton3141
    @kaiton3141 Pƙed rokem

    If there are no upsets in the playins Fnc can only go to group A. The rule for 2 EU teams in a group is for the 4th seed only

  • @xmchen8034
    @xmchen8034 Pƙed rokem +37

    A little suggestion, would be nice to include chat in these clips as well in the future

    • @bashvash
      @bashvash Pƙed rokem

      No lmao, we're here for caedrel, not the spergs in chat. You really entertained by all the kekw and troll shit?

    • @anders21fly
      @anders21fly Pƙed rokem +5

      The whole chat is spamming xdd anyway, theres no point

    • @jamesm2441
      @jamesm2441 Pƙed rokem +2

      Please no. I'm here to watch what Caedrel thinks not what a bunch of randoms think.

  • @aysitalownatlanch1052
    @aysitalownatlanch1052 Pƙed rokem +4

    I really hope RNG goes to Group D. Just so GenG can have a decent match on their group lmao

    • @CoffeeMonster01
      @CoffeeMonster01 Pƙed rokem +2

      didn't you listen...rng has nowhere else to go other than group d or elimination.

  • @KalEljiujitsu
    @KalEljiujitsu Pƙed rokem

    you are right, about eu goin in the first 2 groups, only if you assume that all major region team get through. hypothetically if say beyond or DFM make it through it could look different

    • @lazydk2654
      @lazydk2654 Pƙed rokem

      They'd probably take EG's spot in group B...

    • @KalEljiujitsu
      @KalEljiujitsu Pƙed rokem

      @@lazydk2654 well i would say most people would put eg on the outside right now behind MAD and FNC but you could have EG make it and both EU teams bomb out or a very low chance of DRX just not showing up, i think there is no way RNG doesn't make it

  • @maxbraun9109
    @maxbraun9109 Pƙed rokem +1

    Did i miss something, i thought LEC 4th seed MAD is treated as a wildcardregionteam cause of them replacing LCL (or sth). So they are the only EU team that can be placed in G2/RGE groups right? FNC should be blocked my the normal regional rules like LCK and LPL teams.

    • @PeoplePleaser578
      @PeoplePleaser578 Pƙed rokem +2

      Yes so if both EU teams make it through then MAD is treated as Wildcard - If only MAD or Fnatic make it through then they aren’t.

  • @lxr1586
    @lxr1586 Pƙed rokem +18

    Kai’sa buff=meta=RNG winning worlds

  • @verySharkey
    @verySharkey Pƙed rokem +17

    I love analysis in league of legends. It's like everyone has short term memory. CLG almost beats C9, leaving C9 to win 2 /5 games only because CLG themselves int and somehow C9 is now okay vs the world elite.
    G2 3/0's rogue one week before getting 0/3'd by rogue and somehow rogue is now magically so much of a better team everywhere I look.
    To be fair Cathedral doesnt do this but I still had to say it xD

    • @TypowyKubini
      @TypowyKubini Pƙed rokem +1

      Lol analysts at it's finest

    • @DZatheus
      @DZatheus Pƙed rokem

      Narrative Merchants.

    • @th3summoner
      @th3summoner Pƙed rokem

      Because that wasnt either team at their peak???? Idk how thats so hard to understand. Both teams have a chance because they showed their peak performances can be competitive. Is it really that hard to understand?

    • @akiltircuit7515
      @akiltircuit7515 Pƙed rokem

      C9 was 3rd seed last year and took out LPL and LEC teams. They look stronger than last year.

    • @MakersMark723
      @MakersMark723 Pƙed rokem +2

      Okay
 then after the CLG series, C9 went onto turbo stomp the rest of play offs with them winning 3-0 in the finals with no game being more than 30 min. Also C9 has gotten out of groups pretty much every year they have went to World’s so pretty L take my guy
.

  • @danielcho8124
    @danielcho8124 Pƙed rokem

    Kinda excited about group B and C.
    Want to see how G2 and DK match each other and how Rogue performs against Eastern teams.

  • @svryc
    @svryc Pƙed rokem +1

    so excited to see berserker vs guma

  • @Marco-qt5nv
    @Marco-qt5nv Pƙed rokem +9

    Group B looks like they are very similar power lvl in my opinion, would love to see g2 and dwn

    • @chiidybang370
      @chiidybang370 Pƙed rokem +5

      i think JDJ is #1 and G2 and DK battle for seat 2.

    • @Nikolaj2nd
      @Nikolaj2nd Pƙed rokem +2

      Homeboy tried to label the LPL champs and tournament favourites JDG as "same level" as DK and G2. I can't. Lmao.

    • @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV
      @FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV Pƙed rokem

      @@Nikolaj2nd Bruh. JDG choked in groups in 2020 and lost a game to PSG. You really must be a fantard, if you think JDG is immune to choking. And we have absolutely no idea how good ShowMaker, Canyon, Nuguri, Deokdam will look at worlds... if they all play their best, there would definitely be a mid and top gap, probably a jungle gap, too. Point is, as much as I like JDG, they have a bot lane that hasn't been to worlds before and, despite Hope and Missing being insane this year, that doesn't mean they can't choke.

    • @Nikolaj2nd
      @Nikolaj2nd Pƙed rokem

      @@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV I never said they couldn't choke, but if you're gonna use the logic that Hope and Missing will play their first Worlds and can choke, then you have to apply it to Deokdam and Kellin too as it is the same case for them. Also have to factor in that they have been terrible all year, so they're even more likely to choke on the big stage.

    • @lplgoatofgoat576
      @lplgoatofgoat576 Pƙed rokem

      JDG 2020 is not JDG 2022.
      GenG(ay) get destroyed in World 2018 so you said what for that ? :)
      You are fangay of LCKekw.
      JDG 2022 = Samsung White 2014 , same playstyle.

  • @nisantharemanda7289
    @nisantharemanda7289 Pƙed rokem +3

    damwon is completely reliant on the daeny gambling factor

    • @iodidesodalite8099
      @iodidesodalite8099 Pƙed rokem

      He almost ruined T1, and now he does it in DK. He got so much credit for winning 2020 worlds with DK, but obviously it wasn't his talent but players'.

    • @worts9157
      @worts9157 Pƙed rokem

      @@iodidesodalite8099 Deany wasn’t the head coach in 2020 tho, it’s Zefa

    • @ksjsjhss3475
      @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem

      No need. I think even daeny put burdol in showmaker would still destroy g2. Thats his main goal since 2019 after worlds 😂😂

  • @gotgame4059
    @gotgame4059 Pƙed rokem

    Can someone tell me how he draws on the website and in games sometimes when he’s watch partying?

  • @perryrhodan4648
    @perryrhodan4648 Pƙed rokem

    Don’t forget that Not eastern Teams have the advantage of knowing best of 1s. Just remember Gigabyte Marines vs fanatic or g2 2 years ago with nocturne funnel

  • @hatembahri4314
    @hatembahri4314 Pƙed rokem +9

    all i can say :
    RIP EU & NA teams
    LCK & LPL players are just aliens

    • @rickyismyuncle4485
      @rickyismyuncle4485 Pƙed rokem

      EU made recently 2 World finals and won MSI. They will be fine. lol

    • @axelcisneros7679
      @axelcisneros7679 Pƙed rokem

      @@rickyismyuncle4485 recently : 2019 and 2018

    • @rickyismyuncle4485
      @rickyismyuncle4485 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@axelcisneros7679
      thats like almost 2 outta 4 finals lol I will take those odds for EU to progress. Im a betting man.

    • @harish5724
      @harish5724 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@rickyismyuncle4485 problem is EU looked much stronger going into worlds in those years. The gap has widened since then.

    • @cheshirest9067
      @cheshirest9067 Pƙed rokem

      @@rickyismyuncle4485 Clueless

  • @ballislife9834
    @ballislife9834 Pƙed rokem +3

    as strong as LPL teams are, something about group stages that makes them sus lol. WEST only chance is to pray that LPL keeps the traditions of LPL dropping games in group stages.

  • @leigh-jeanterblanche5833

    It comes down to , if you want to be the best , you have to beat the best.

  • @Linkingx2
    @Linkingx2 Pƙed rokem

    5:30 exactly what I want
    but I know then riot will put all LCK and LPL teams on one side of the bracket...

  • @lemartn8921
    @lemartn8921 Pƙed rokem +7

    Mad have a good chance of qualifying cause they would be 3rd in playins and face either eg or fnc ( the 2nd of the other group) which is doable. FNC just has to get 1st in an easy group.

    • @__-qn8ts
      @__-qn8ts Pƙed rokem

      mad has to beat rng and drx to qualify first

    • @lemartn8921
      @lemartn8921 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@__-qn8ts no they dont.

    • @__-qn8ts
      @__-qn8ts Pƙed rokem

      @@lemartn8921 playins bracket man

    • @lemartn8921
      @lemartn8921 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@__-qn8ts no they dont need to win. As statet in the parent comment they get third.

    • @__-qn8ts
      @__-qn8ts Pƙed rokem

      @@lemartn8921 it's only the top 2 from each playins bracket

  • @tomsnow2872
    @tomsnow2872 Pƙed rokem +6

    I dont even think it should be embarrassing for western teams to not make it out of groups anymore because of how stacked these groups look. I think for EU its sided toward them because you expect at least Rogue to get in but still it will be hard.

    • @sashin2661
      @sashin2661 Pƙed rokem +11

      Well DRX for most of summer looked like the clear 6th best team in LCK and then they managed to clutch up/LSB choke to make worlds, so if EU's best team cant beat what has been koreas 6th best team and clearly the worst LCK/LPL team in the tournament to get out of groups that would be kind of embarrassing, i mean in the context of this tournament its literally the wests best vs the easts worst.

    • @cedriclim6114
      @cedriclim6114 Pƙed rokem

      @@sashin2661 that would really look bad on EU if DRX gets out instead of RGE

  • @Weiqin1000
    @Weiqin1000 Pƙed rokem +2

    Wasn’t MAD not the only one not to have to have to abide to the: no team from same region in the same group - rule? And only if FNC als make it out? FNC doesn’t have that I don’t think

    • @kapristehno5043
      @kapristehno5043 Pƙed rokem +1

      ye, fnc are always group A, if mad get out they can go to B

  • @KhanhNguyen-pl6uh
    @KhanhNguyen-pl6uh Pƙed rokem +1

    Fact: gam and tes training together during summer split

  • @arthurboureau1364
    @arthurboureau1364 Pƙed rokem +14

    I wouldn't mind having 8 teams from lpl and lck in quarters but I would hate if all lck teams or lpl teams are on one side of the bracket.

    • @user-sm8jl8ro5n
      @user-sm8jl8ro5n Pƙed rokem

      Exactly 2020 lpl 3 team 1 side. Then 2021 lck 3 team 1 side. No. No no

  • @aviewerofu
    @aviewerofu Pƙed rokem +3

    dont agree with the take on JDG but I can definitely see G2 beating DK and C9 taking games away from T1 and EDG.

  • @frankzhangpo
    @frankzhangpo Pƙed rokem

    This year is stacked

  • @turnwheelman6375
    @turnwheelman6375 Pƙed rokem

    so fucking pumped for worlds man

  • @herdiyanchaerully1066
    @herdiyanchaerully1066 Pƙed rokem +12

    I believe all LCK teams will qualify for the knockout stages considering they are very strong in BO1 especially in World

    • @hipposheep
      @hipposheep Pƙed rokem

      T1 looks shaky as hell. Even in their undefeated spring, they dropped a ton of game 1s which would have cost them if lck was bo1

    • @herdiyanchaerully1066
      @herdiyanchaerully1066 Pƙed rokem +5

      @@hipposheep mate, after joining in 2013, only gen g(2013,2018) failed to qualify from the group stage, even when they struggled to read the meta they still managed to get at least 2 teams in the first position of the group stage

    • @desjero3157
      @desjero3157 Pƙed rokem +2

      DRX? XDDD drx is bad

    • @Lilmajudi
      @Lilmajudi Pƙed rokem +13

      @@hipposheep T1 looked even more shakier in 2021 summer, that some people were even doubting they could beat 100 sins
      And then they proceeded to top the group like they always do, get off the copium my dude 💀

    • @CrazyAvidGamer
      @CrazyAvidGamer Pƙed rokem +1

      @@hipposheep see thats the thing, they drop alot of first games because they play a bo3, do you really think they would play as recklessly as they did if lck was bo1s? no, they do so because they know they can afford to drop game 1

  • @joshz6289
    @joshz6289 Pƙed rokem +5

    I think western teams have a decent chance cuz they are bo1 and honestly i think c9 might have a chance at beating t1 and edg at bo1, just not in a bo5

  • @rotcoke652
    @rotcoke652 Pƙed rokem +1

    C9, T1, EDG, FNC is actually such a banger group

  • @mattwhelan13
    @mattwhelan13 Pƙed rokem +1

    imagine FNC G2 in the same group at worlds, never thought I'd see that

    • @julesbinder288
      @julesbinder288 Pƙed rokem

      Imagine If they make it Out!

    • @subhajitnaskar6033
      @subhajitnaskar6033 Pƙed rokem

      and u aint gonna see that this time too ...only mad is exception to the regional rule so only they can go to grpb if they get out...fnc is locked in grp a if they get out

    • @mattwhelan13
      @mattwhelan13 Pƙed rokem

      @@subhajitnaskar6033 ah thanks for explaining

  • @xjm23
    @xjm23 Pƙed rokem +5

    People disrespecting DK so much. Rightfully so to an extent tho, but I feel they can beat any team. Also lose to any team lol

    • @21-blade-laaak95
      @21-blade-laaak95 Pƙed rokem +3

      Dk from play off and regional finals is a different beast to regular season, I cant imagine to canyon/showmaker out in groups

  • @oscarmundele1626
    @oscarmundele1626 Pƙed rokem +9

    Bro we say the same thing last year as well “ yea T1 and EDG and DW are scarier in B05” then they all absolutely destroyed their group

    • @fairytoxy2038
      @fairytoxy2038 Pƙed rokem +2

      just cuz they are scarier in BO5 doesnt mean they are weak in BO1 its just that in BO5 you are going to piss yourself facing them

    • @eduardomissi7804
      @eduardomissi7804 Pƙed rokem

      They were in much better shape than this season though

    • @loxmodum8099
      @loxmodum8099 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@eduardomissi7804 Absolutly false... Especialy for T1 they were in a very bad shape (at least it was what people thought)... They were even rated below MAD... BELOW MAD

    • @prajalaksamanabahar8683
      @prajalaksamanabahar8683 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@loxmodum8099 lol mad doesn’t even win Bo5 this year

    • @prajalaksamanabahar8683
      @prajalaksamanabahar8683 Pƙed rokem +8

      @@loxmodum8099 many people so dumb rating on team, T1 lose to geng 0-3 so but win spring and in summer goes 15-3 , so what team should do to get better rating from fans ?

  • @ksjsjhss3475
    @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem +1

    The only solution to worlds format is either make it a bo3 on groups or bo1 but let the 3rd team qualify and make a lower bracket. Fans just dont understand keep on saying its UNFAIR for upper bracket winners. Most players would agree on bo3 and lower bracket I would assume, these players play their entire life literally 12-14 hrs or more a day, they deserve to play more games atleast, and even very strong teams KNOW they can have a bad day, its literally a win for everyone

  • @gernotmessner1948
    @gernotmessner1948 Pƙed rokem

    Have fun my friends

  • @Itsundiscovered
    @Itsundiscovered Pƙed rokem +6

    The rule is MAD can go in any any group. Unfortunately fnatic is forced to be group a, so group b will have either mad, eg or someone like sgb or byg. or CHF (oce copium)

    • @raresanea7585
      @raresanea7585 Pƙed rokem

      what if mad doesn't make worlds?

    • @spongetop2699
      @spongetop2699 Pƙed rokem

      @@raresanea7585 MAD is locked to worlds arldy

    • @youssefhammam6902
      @youssefhammam6902 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@spongetop2699 i think he meant get through play-ins though I may be wrong

    • @kapristehno5043
      @kapristehno5043 Pƙed rokem

      @@raresanea7585 then the team that gets in instead of mad goes to B

    • @phongsen2004
      @phongsen2004 Pƙed rokem

      SGB will smash MAD 3 1 in BO5 so you guys don't have to worry about EU 4th seed

  • @creatinepowder167
    @creatinepowder167 Pƙed rokem +13

    Where is all this copium coming from about C9? T1s slump wasn't big enough to make C9 their equals lmao...and T1 not a BO1 team? They have 89% wr in bo1s across a decade with all different rosters (except Faker). Oh yeah this Meta favours T1 and Damwon too so lets see some more copium about C9 who made it through a similar group 5 years ago when EDG was shit and didn't have Viper smfh

  • @maidinhhao
    @maidinhhao Pƙed rokem

    World gonna be fun!

  • @eirikmydland1619
    @eirikmydland1619 Pƙed rokem

    If the EU-rule apply, and MAD get through play ins, doesn't that mean that one of DRX or RNG don't make it in play ins (since MAD,DRX and RNG is in the same group). Then MAD or FNC could get seeded in group C or D depending on which of DRX and RNG that looses.

    • @seanzano6634
      @seanzano6634 Pƙed rokem

      Even if mad gets out as 1st or 2nd seed for some god foresaken reason,, the 3rd seed crossplays the 2nd seed from the other group so drx/rng can both still make it out.

    • @eirikmydland1619
      @eirikmydland1619 Pƙed rokem

      @@seanzano6634 yeah okey that sucks

    • @PeoplePleaser578
      @PeoplePleaser578 Pƙed rokem

      @@seanzano6634 Because 1 group is infinitely weaker than the other is why they did that - It’s to make things a bit more even because if you get screwed over and land in the group with the 2 strongest teams
 you are essentially playing for nothing because you have no chance of making it out - this at least gives other teams a chance to make it out.

  • @felix2805
    @felix2805 Pƙed rokem +6

    Actually Rogue looked so good in Finals. Maybe they can manage to get out of groups!

    • @aminsoussi2354
      @aminsoussi2354 Pƙed rokem +9

      I mean if RGE loses against the worst eastern team in the tournament, then it would be extremely embarrassing for the west . RGE has to get out of groups it's a matter of pride

    • @JayW-um9rm
      @JayW-um9rm Pƙed rokem

      @@aminsoussi2354 worst eastern team is either saigon buffalo or beyond gaming no?

    • @aminsoussi2354
      @aminsoussi2354 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@JayW-um9rm well you are right but i am talking about the major regions

    • @xKayNee
      @xKayNee Pƙed rokem

      They should be able to get out of groups I feel.

    • @Lolking9
      @Lolking9 Pƙed rokem

      @@aminsoussi2354 I can guarantee you that Rouge won’t gonna win a single game against GAM. GAM has higher chances than rouge.

  • @wakkawakkagaming3710
    @wakkawakkagaming3710 Pƙed rokem +3

    Playins look banger, groups look banger. As an NA fan, normally this is about the time of year I get that "perpetual failure" anxiety for our teams, but idk man our groups look okay. Group A is obviously strong as fuck but C9 has always been the NA team that performs, and the throwback group is iconic, especially if FNC ends up getting out and sorted into A

    • @carloscornejo3010
      @carloscornejo3010 Pƙed rokem

      If it's exactly like the 2017 Worlds group, then maybe C9 is going to quarters

  • @Avvura
    @Avvura Pƙed rokem +1

    I love spicy groups but 6 Best of 1s to decide your whole year make it really unforgiving

    • @quantum_fiziks5491
      @quantum_fiziks5491 Pƙed rokem

      yep, it's do or die for every team, so they better work their ass off, there is no place for bitching in worlds, either you smash or you get smashed

  • @andreeaalexandru7811
    @andreeaalexandru7811 Pƙed rokem +1

    The groups are balanced and really hard.
    There is a possibility that FNC and EG get out of Group 1 and RNG and Mad/DRX get out of group 2. I don't think teams 4-7 in LCK are better then the same positions in LEC so I am not sure about DRX in Bo1. If RNG and Mad get out of group 2 we going to have 4 teams from LPL and LEC and only 3 from LCK in the main stage:
    GrA: C9 T1 EDG FNC/Mad
    GrB: JDG G2 DWK EG
    GrC: RGE TES GAM FNC/Mad
    GrD: GenG CFO 100T RNG

    • @sroyat3316
      @sroyat3316 Pƙed rokem

      Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
      LEC cannot win against LCK

  • @miag4254
    @miag4254 Pƙed rokem +5

    Eu and na isnt the only ones who can choke we seen lpl/lck choke aswell they are not some kind of gods that r unbeatable

    • @jynxycats
      @jynxycats Pƙed rokem

      LCK choked like once ... ever, in the history of the modern Worlds format lol. GEN.G was the only LCK team to not make it past groups. So, it's more on LPL as far as not meeting expectations. I'd say the thing to watch is if an LCK team doesn't get first place, rather than thinking they won't make it.

  • @prodbygrayson
    @prodbygrayson Pƙed rokem +9

    i didn’t realize deft and the boys made the run for his last worlds đŸ™đŸ»

    • @hamxz2
      @hamxz2 Pƙed rokem +8

      I don't think it's his last worlds, he delayed his military service I'm pretty sure.

    • @KK-ln9gu
      @KK-ln9gu Pƙed rokem +2

      He said he's not retiring after this worlds so it's not his last run

  • @samuelstrunk5525
    @samuelstrunk5525 Pƙed rokem +1

    To be fair on the C9 point, if they werent, RGE would have been in knockouts so it wasnt thaaat close from no western teams in knockouts. It was 3 bo1s away :D

    • @chrisk1039
      @chrisk1039 Pƙed rokem

      Or if FPX won 1 Bo1 in groups proper to eliminate them both without tiebreakers.
      It’s a bit of a doomer take when you consider you could also say “we were 2 Bo1’s away from half the field being western” and have it also be true (100t making it out and TL making it out)

    • @subhajitnaskar6033
      @subhajitnaskar6033 Pƙed rokem

      also fnc and g2 were 3 bo1s away from winning worlds in 2018 and 2019

  • @BrendanZanitCoen
    @BrendanZanitCoen Pƙed rokem +1

    FNC is pretty much locked group A. MAD is the only one exempt from the rule. So mad or EG go group B

  • @jasonzheng7436
    @jasonzheng7436 Pƙed rokem +6

    12.18 is Meta for DK and RNG.

    • @creatinepowder167
      @creatinepowder167 Pƙed rokem +13

      T1 too, but yeah DK and RNG also. People are writing DK and RNG off early without realising its a great meta for them

    • @princesstoni8116
      @princesstoni8116 Pƙed rokem

      What makes you say that, genuine question cause I haven't seen anything on the world's patch yet

    • @ColonelMeteorz
      @ColonelMeteorz Pƙed rokem

      @@princesstoni8116 kaisa buffs + enchanter nerfs

    • @hsenpai7718
      @hsenpai7718 Pƙed rokem

      @@princesstoni8116 riot basically bringing back the spring 2022 meta with huge buff of Top-side carry and nerfted hard enchanters zeri-sivir..

    • @princesstoni8116
      @princesstoni8116 Pƙed rokem

      @UC4y2GSX3AJnojqD4wb8woPw ohhh that's hype actually, maybe 100t can take a game off gen g then, I did a little looking up and the meta sorta leans towards them too with the lee sin buffs if it's good

  • @Lilmajudi
    @Lilmajudi Pƙed rokem +11

    Viewer : DK is bad
    Also Damwon in groups
    2019 with Nuclear-int 💀 : 5-1
    2020 : 5-1
    2021 : 6-0
    Surely they are bad, and won’t make it through groups this time

    • @superfridge1
      @superfridge1 Pƙed rokem +2

      G2 fans can start praying for DK or JDG to choke. Jankos + Targamas vs Kanavi + Missing sounds like a nightmare. But this time DKÂŽs bot and top will int enough for G2 to win. Copium.

    • @sebastianspyrzewski3147
      @sebastianspyrzewski3147 Pƙed rokem +1

      Mate its 2022, few months can change everything in league of legends and youre talking about results from 3 years ago?

    • @hamxz2
      @hamxz2 Pƙed rokem +1

      For real, they're "bad" but they're not NA/EU bad lol. Same with people thinking Berserker/Zven will beat Guma/Keria

    • @Lilmajudi
      @Lilmajudi Pƙed rokem +5

      @@sebastianspyrzewski3147 in these 3 “long” years you are talking about they managed to qualify to worlds 3 times in a row without missing a year
      They also managed to top every groups these 3 past years, it’s called being consistent as an organization and always meeting expectations you know?
      If few months can changes league of legends like you say, how did Damwon manage to consistently top every group they’ve been in throughout these 3 years in a row
      Same way with how SKT/T1 always manage to top every groups they’ve been in worlds historically, but sure whatever helps you to cope harder

    • @sebastianspyrzewski3147
      @sebastianspyrzewski3147 Pƙed rokem

      @@Lilmajudi ...and it still has nothing to do with current year

  • @yannxoth2878
    @yannxoth2878 Pƙed rokem

    This worlds seems a bit hype, like everyone is just like "All right, which teams are gonna show up or look like hot dog water" but it's also worlds so, the teams should be expected to show up.
    Watching dom's vods on LPL, LPL being bloody as always makes me wonder if the early kills are going to determine the game or they're going to be running it. LS kind of made LCK seem kind of odd/weird as well atm especially with drafts and players being shells of their former glory. People probably going to mostly vote for the more mechanically better teams out of habit but I think we're really going to have to wait for drafts to see which teams did their homework, polished their craft, expanded their champ pools, and see who the hell is just smurfing at worlds. Im hyped.

  • @GlideAndSlide123
    @GlideAndSlide123 Pƙed rokem

    T1 with issues still got 2nd in LCK though. Still expect them to make it out.

  • @llllllllllllllllllllllllIIIIl1

    i secretly wants LPL vs LCK playoffs so that riot's viewership will tank and they will finally do something about the format MAYBE

    • @raidthefridge1966
      @raidthefridge1966 Pƙed rokem +14

      Do you realized lck and lpl viewerships carry riot right ? The western viewership is shit compare to those 2 region

    • @xxmythmakerxx
      @xxmythmakerxx Pƙed rokem +4

      i agree but lpl vs lck will bring in crazy viewership tho, t1 gets guaranteed 2 mil +

    • @ksjsjhss3475
      @ksjsjhss3475 Pƙed rokem +9

      Will tank? Arent DK vs EDG just broke records last year? Most in league? Also had almost 500M viewers from chinese platforms like huya and bilibili.

    • @Tim_Weng
      @Tim_Weng Pƙed rokem

      The only reason I even bother watching LCS and maybe others would agree is that LCS bribes me with in game loot, and even then, I leave it running in the background and don’t event watch it

    • @raidthefridge1966
      @raidthefridge1966 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ksjsjhss3475 cant blame him really cause most westerners think everything revolves around them

  • @goliath_red1102
    @goliath_red1102 Pƙed rokem +3

    Guma + Keria seriously need to step up bcos atm they’re the weakest point of T1 and we all remember what happened to Damwon last year


    • @creatinepowder167
      @creatinepowder167 Pƙed rokem +2

      Its a good job T1's champs are coming back into meta then, and enchanter supports are nerfed, which is great for Keria and ming x

    • @xXWorldgamefunXx
      @xXWorldgamefunXx Pƙed rokem

      @@creatinepowder167 Everyone says this but who exactly got buffed?
      Is the yuumi nerf really the end of the enchanter meta?

    • @tliman1255
      @tliman1255 Pƙed rokem

      well have you seen the meta changes? seems like Guma and Keria should be having a renaissance

    • @tliman1255
      @tliman1255 Pƙed rokem

      @@xXWorldgamefunXx engage supps have been buffed, while enchanter nerfed. its enough to have a good cc supp to counter yuumi

    • @tliman1255
      @tliman1255 Pƙed rokem

      yuumi nerfed, nami lucian nerfed, thresh buffed, caitlyn, tristana buffed, zeri, sivir, kalista nerfed

  • @Theyokesffs
    @Theyokesffs Pƙed rokem

    Didnt Riot took out the restrictions of Regions for the teams that didn't qualify for the worlds directly?

  • @frederikpedersen4396
    @frederikpedersen4396 Pƙed rokem

    Does the rule allowing double EU teams in the same group not apply to LPL teams also, meaning they don't have to go in group D? Or is that a rule which applies only to EU?

    • @maxbraun9109
      @maxbraun9109 Pƙed rokem +1

      its a special rule because 1 region cannot join (i believe russian lcl) and lec got the 4th spot because of this. MAD does count as a wildcard region cause they placed 4th and replace that team drawwise. LCK and LPL have their 4th spots due to worlds+msi seedings and have the normal no double regional teams per group rule applied.

    • @PeoplePleaser578
      @PeoplePleaser578 Pƙed rokem +1

      No it only applies to EU because EU is going in place of LCL whereas China and LCK had 4 seeds anyway.

    • @frederikpedersen4396
      @frederikpedersen4396 Pƙed rokem

      @@maxbraun9109 I thought as much, but wasn't certain, thanks for clear that up!

  • @aeowinh
    @aeowinh Pƙed rokem +5

    I think C9 going out depends on how good Jensen can play he is undeniably the weakest part of C9 and if mid collapses Berserker, Blaber and Fudge don't have chances to carry the games.

    • @lumivoid950
      @lumivoid950 Pƙed rokem +2

      Group A literally all depends on if T1 throws their BO1’s like they do so often. As a T1 fan, I hate the BO1 style, it doesn’t show the full skill set of each team. It does make “content” though, which is all NA gives a shit about.

    • @bandito6782
      @bandito6782 Pƙed rokem

      @@lumivoid950 I wouldn't worry, T1 found their feet last year at worlds in BO1 group stage and I think get a little complacent at times knowing they are always playing in BO3's domestically. Seeing them get challenged is the best thing for them to improve

    • @anaepeot
      @anaepeot Pƙed rokem

      @@lumivoid950 T1 is a literal god in Bo1, they got top 1 last year even tho people are doubting them as they are having issues with their coach

    • @tliman1255
      @tliman1255 Pƙed rokem

      lets not forget the T1 vs C9 highlights where Jenssen got schooled by Faker

    • @tliman1255
      @tliman1255 Pƙed rokem

      @@anaepeot they just promoted Bengi to headcoach. Plus the recent meta changes are in their favor

  • @ironspartan117
    @ironspartan117 Pƙed rokem +7

    Mark my words. no western team will get out of groups.

  • @BB-em4qr
    @BB-em4qr Pƙed rokem

    i don't know what happen, but since yesterday KR player seems step up massively, especially some of the jungler. it seems like they step up mentally because they win a lot scrims lately

  • @Azqalihm
    @Azqalihm Pƙed rokem +2

    If Riot doesn't want League to completely die in the west before they can cash in on the name recognition with the mmo, they really need to either change the format or let other orgs make international tournaments. We barely see our teams play in BO5s. BO1 has been said to be bad for a game like league since before I started watching in late 2012.
    Right now at Worlds we kinda rely on 1-2 LPL teams to collapse in groups and 1-2 LEC/LCS teams to hyperbolic time chamber up during bootcamp for top8s to not be lck civil war on one side and lpl civil war on the other.

    • @Lolking9
      @Lolking9 Pƙed rokem +1

      we wants to see the best teams play the game, wtf is this reservation system for west. Just because you shitty system cant produce good teams why other teams from other region needs to be punished.

    • @Azqalihm
      @Azqalihm Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Lolking9 Double elim and getting rid of BO1s doesn't punish shit. Worlds is the only time teams from all over the world can play other regions in a competitive capacity. Seeing more matchups is good for everyone.

  • @markushubmayer3995
    @markushubmayer3995 Pƙed rokem +6

    Now just imagine this: *breathes hopium for breakfast*
    EG, FNC and MAD make it out
    C9 and EUteam1 make it out of Group A
    G2 and EG make it out of Group B
    RGE and TES make it out of Group C
    EUteam2 and 100 make it out of Group D
    And TES still win worlds xd

  • @nisantharemanda7289
    @nisantharemanda7289 Pƙed rokem +4

    Its so fucked up for minor region teams to play against rng and drx in play ins, I personally think that having 4 seeds for any region was a massive mistake.

    • @Linesweeper
      @Linesweeper Pƙed rokem +2

      Yeah we need more garbage teams in quarters so half the international bo5s we get per year are low quality stomps. I personally fondly look back at H2K stomping Albus Nox Dumbledore before being stomped in the semis. That was peak entertainment

    • @hipposheep
      @hipposheep Pƙed rokem

      Tbh if its so outrageous for minor region teams to play juggernauts in the play ins, what's the point? I understand there's sentiment and pride to represent their region at worlds, but in the end it boils down to the major region teams. If minor region teams are representing at worlds, they should have to prove themselves imo. What's the point in them showing up every year and getting crushed? Worlds is also one of two international events we get in the year, surely seeds should be given to the teams showing the highest level of competition over inclusivity for the sake of it?

  • @nottodayjimmy851
    @nottodayjimmy851 Pƙed rokem +2

    We know how good DW at world 🌎

  • @worstjgleuw6658
    @worstjgleuw6658 Pƙed rokem

    The thing is I want 10 team make it in groups. The 1st and 2nd in their group would make it out, and every 3rd and 4th on their groups play Bo3 to face each other then the 4 teams who won battle it out; the winners will be placed on the lower bracket.

    • @sashin2661
      @sashin2661 Pƙed rokem +2

      sounds great but what the fuck would a 10 team playoff bracket look like?

    • @worstjgleuw6658
      @worstjgleuw6658 Pƙed rokem

      @@sashin2661 it looks like LPL format but with a twist

    • @sashin2661
      @sashin2661 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@worstjgleuw6658 Sure but with 4 groups how do u decide the seeding for a similar format to the LPL, cant run a gauntlet type format like the LPL playoffs when 4 teams will come into it as the same seed. And u said the last 2 get placed in a lower bracket so top 8 with a lower bracket of 2 teams on the side?

    • @worstjgleuw6658
      @worstjgleuw6658 Pƙed rokem

      @@sashin2661 well 1st the format would be all the 2nd would faced each other in round, then the all the 1st seed will face each other in a BO1 or BO3 match and the winners takes the higher seeding in the bracket. Then the ones who lost in the battle of the 2nd seed will go on the looser bracket which will they face the winners of the wild card rule.

    • @worstjgleuw6658
      @worstjgleuw6658 Pƙed rokem

      @@sashin2661 as for to know who's facing who in the pool 1, it's gonna be a group draw but when perchance two of them are on the same region they'll have to face each other to avoid cannibalism and the looser will go to other winners lower seed.

  • @martinhoang9217
    @martinhoang9217 Pƙed rokem +4

    G2 fnc will made it out from groups and meet in finals.

  • @chaddude5471
    @chaddude5471 Pƙed rokem +3

    C9 will win Worlds

  • @doniherald7745
    @doniherald7745 Pƙed rokem

    Im waiting some crazy peformance from GAM

  • @nicl1076
    @nicl1076 Pƙed rokem +1

    Let's say FNC, MAD, RNG and DRX make it out. Wouldn't FNC have to go into group A since they count as EU 3rd seed whereas MAD count as the Russian seed? Or am I wrong. Im confused since Caedral did this example just having FNC in group B and MAD in group A.
    I do not think that's possible tho, but I could be wrong. Idk anymore

    • @MrDanistophan
      @MrDanistophan Pƙed rokem

      Yeah, lets say DRX and RNG make it out, then if FNC make it through they go Group A, if FNC and MAD make it out its Group A for FNC and Group B for MAD, and if only MAD make it, its group A for MAD. The ruling that MAD can go into a group with another LEC team, is only in effect, if both LEC teams make it through play in.

    • @newyorknewyork933
      @newyorknewyork933 Pƙed rokem

      You are right,

  • @vivianyouify
    @vivianyouify Pƙed rokem +4

    even T1 playing bad still better than lot of team....

  • @TheChreezyy
    @TheChreezyy Pƙed rokem +4

    we can all agree that the gap between west and east has never been so large as in 2022.... thats kind of sad...
    and i have to think... what will riot do if there is a quarters with only lpl/lck teams? like worlds format change, league change (na,eu), something to make the west more competitive... because if there is a quarters with no western team... the views will go down... and thats something riot would not want... pretty complicated situation...
    its the same as in regular sports, f.e. football... premier league is the most viewed, most money making and most interesting league because it is the most competitive.... its simple as that....less competition = less interest = less views = less money.....

    • @IsomerSoma
      @IsomerSoma Pƙed rokem

      In season 5 and 6 the gap was even larger.

    • @ooooneeeee
      @ooooneeeee Pƙed rokem

      No worries, T1 will boost viewership even w/o NA EU

    • @TheChreezyy
      @TheChreezyy Pƙed rokem

      @@IsomerSoma season 5 fnc and og were in semis....season 6 h2k was in semis.... better than 2021 were only 2 western teams were in quarters by a bit of luck....

    • @LuxuryBall13
      @LuxuryBall13 Pƙed rokem

      @@TheChreezyy Ah yes, beating FPX twice in a day the ultimate luck move

    • @BestMomentsHD
      @BestMomentsHD Pƙed rokem

      they trying to mimic format from actual sports but don't understand it's bad for competitiveness in esports, league pro circuit outdated so much it almost feels like it's from the game 10 years ago

  • @FleyEnder
    @FleyEnder Pƙed rokem

    Quarters is gonna be all lck / lpl

  • @lk7760
    @lk7760 Pƙed rokem

    So in Short the major region is locked in and the minor region is fck and when I say minor, we include LCS and LEC