We Are Saved By Grace Through Faith Plus Nothing! - Pastor Richard Jordan
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This Message: "By Grace Through Faith Plus Nothing 12-8-13"
Speaker: Richard Jordan - President of "Grace School of The Bible"
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[HOW TO BE SAVED]
After you die do you think you will you go to Heaven or Hell?
We all DESERVE to go to HELL because of what we have done WRONG in this life!
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
(Romans 3:10)
"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
(Romans 3:23)
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The "Good News" is that God LOVES us and wants to SAVE US from going to that terrible place called hell.
Check this verse out from the Bible...
"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:3-4)
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After we DIE it will be TOO LATE to be saved!
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the JUDGMENT"
(Hebrews 9:27)
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God's solution for our sin is THE CROSS...
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)
"...Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures." (I Corinthians 15:3,4)
"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace;" (Ephesians 1:7)
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SALVATION is God's FREE GIFT to us...
"For the wages of sin is death; but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
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The Result of our faith is PEACE WITH GOD...
"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." (Romans 5:1)
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8,9)
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At this very moment you have the responsibility of making a decision.
You can be saved right now:
Simply make the decision in your heart to trust completely and exclusively in the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ as the total payment to God for your sins.
The moment you do, God will forgive you all your sins and save you from spending eternity in the Lake of Fire.
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After we are saved we are SEALED (kept safe by God) by Being given God's Holy Spirit to be with us until we go to be in heaven...
"In whom [Christ] ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise..." (Ephesians 1:13)
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"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth NOT the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." (John 3:36)
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Love Pastor Richard Jordan and his messages!
The only Gospel that SAVES us today: 1 Cor 15:1-4 KJV :)
Believe that Jesus died on the cross for you, Shed HIS blood for you AND the forgiveness of your sins (past, present, and future), was buried and rose again on the third day. Believe this and you are SAVED for eternity!
My hope is that all who watch this would move from religiousness to being covered by grace
We are ABSOLUTELY saved by faith plus nothing!
Ephesians 2:8-9😎
Charles Martel Chapter 2
God has chosen the poor of this world who are rich in faith-Salvation is gained by keeping the whole law-Faith without works is dead.
Chapter 7
Fire comes down from heaven and consumes the sacrifices and burnt offerings-The Lord appears to Solomon and promises to bless the people-The Israelites will prosper if they keep the commandments.
He came to not abolish the law but to fulfill i, now we don,t have to sacrifice animals but we still need to keep some of the law.
You realize there are more than 10 commandments right?...
yep he fulfilled the law...
so i can kill people but as long as i have faith in jesus i can still go to heaven?
what do you mean nice try? faith is just you believing in him and is separate from works
nah when i used to be a christian there was definitely effort involved lol
faith-complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
faith has nothing to do with works but you just trusting someone or something.... please give me one verse in the bible where jesus or god says by grace through faith...
Don't listen to religious cults . By their fruits and teachings , you will know them . Read the Scriptures to check their fruits and teachings .
Salvation is made simple and easy by God because He likes everyone to be saved . All you have to do is to have true faith or to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ . You can check this in the Bible
Being faithful is not a work, it's the fruit of your love for jesus christ
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randy clitus Amen
being faithful or staying faitful is a work, but what are you trying to proof?
we dont get saved by being faithful, we get saved by trusting Christ period.
Jorge duarte , you’re teaching lawlessness. Worse, you’re teaching it to followers of Christ.
Matthew 18:6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones- *those who believe in me* -to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
I’m guessing that might even cause your eyes to get sucked inside out as they’re forced back into your skull before you’re even unconscious. Not pretty. Stop teaching lawlessness.
Bible Basics please dont post scriptures that you dont understand the meaning of.
you are teaching a works based salvation which will not saved anyone, we first come to Christ to be saved, than we serve Christ to be rewarded, we dont serve to get and stay saved. you need to learn to seperate salvation and discipleship.
to say we need to keep the laws and obey God those are works those take efforts from our part. anything you think you have to do to stay and be saved is considered work. stop teaching false gospel friend you will be judged for that because you yourself wont make it to heaven and will receive punishment in hell according to your works
Romans 4 verse 5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
So we are saved by grace, through faith, for good works!
Thank you for preaching PAUL'S GOSPEL only way of SALVATION
rejoice in the good news rest in the finished work of the cross
To sum it all up Jesus says this at the cross..."FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO" Ladies and gentlemen theres the word "GRACE" all because of the power of the blood of Christ!!
Sunset Boulevard This is the very reason theres 40,000 Christian denominations because of mans interpretation. Your right about the scripture in Ephesians but don't ignor all the other scriptures that testify of the importance of works.
If works aren't important then why do we have commandments and a final judgement? Why did Jesus teach us to live a certain way?
Our works could NEVER earn us salvation, it is a free gift. But if we don't live right we could lose access to salvation. Christ's atonement saves us from death.
Our works (repentance,faith and living a Christ centered life)and the grace of our savior Jesus Christ saves us from the final judgement.
naya , you are so right!
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those *who obey him.”*
We earnestly seek God through our obedience, and he rewards us with his Holy Spirit to strengthen and further keep us from sin.
Ezekiel 36: 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 *And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.*
And who are God’s children?
Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of *her offspring - those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.*
Because ...
Romans 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, *but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.*
@@naya9305 aren't most of the books in the bible written by Paul a man's interpretation of God's word?
@@naya9305 AMEN AN NO ONE CAN BE FULLY PERFECT REMEMBER HE WITHOUT SIN LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE THAT IS WHY IN HEAVEN WE WILL HAVE NEW BODIES
@@naya9305 🙄
Christians read the word everyday..but today start in the book of psalm...psalm ONE..Read that...Pray for me...JESUS IS LORD!
Start with Romans! You need to start at where we, the body of Christ, are.
@@loridennis2989 Amen!!!
Excellent preaching pastor, you enlightened the subject well, thank you.
+kenny D and it is so sad that the Adventists think that only the ones that save the Sabath are saved when the bible clearly teaches us that we are saved by grace through faith! God have mercy on them please!
Please pray for my grandmother Teresa Arroyos. She used to go to the same church I go to, but changed to the Adventist movement. God help her!
Thank you, Pastor Richard! Thank you for teaching us. :)
True Christians should post a link to this video on every Catholic, LDS/Mormon, Seventh-day Adventist, and Jehovah Witness thread they can.
@@slfudct Are you saying that the other New Testament writers, contradict what Christ, Himself, says in scripture?
@@slfudctRomans 8 ESV
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.
12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs-heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.
18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.
26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? 33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died-more than that, who was raised-who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 As it is written,
“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Great teaching, thanks to God for giving the body of Christ this gift of teaching.
I feel a tone of real true in this preaching , even I dont now this man, he put forward salvation by Jesus and ONLY Jesus. /Thank you
@Julian Clarke Go ahead there and try to keep that law. See what that gets you.
Great message of the word "grace". The book of Romans is where it gives us an sight of the meaning of grace. Well it's the entire bible. The old testament reveals the kindness of God and will punish "Sin". but at the same time he shows redemption and Forgiveness because he is "slow to anger" ..I Love the book of Ruth. The story of God's perfect timing and appointed time. a true mercyful loving God he is.
@Julian Clarke Also He spoke this parable to some (E)who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee (F)stood and prayed thus with himself, (G)‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men-extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; (H)for everyone who exalts himself will be [d]humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
@Julian Clarke and you quote Romans 10:5 and stop where you want it to... But it keeps going
BUT the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, (F)“Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ down from above) 7 or, (G)“ ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? (H)“The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that (I)if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, (J)“Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For (K)there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for (L)the same Lord over all (M)is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For (N)“whoever calls (O)on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
@Julian Clarke then you quote john 14:15
What are these commandments?
As the Father (L)loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 (M)If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.
11 “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and (N)that your joy may be full. 12 (O)This is My (P)commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 (Q)Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 (R)You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, (S)for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 (T)You did not choose Me, but I chose you and (U)appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father (V)in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another.
DO YOU LOVE AS JESUS LOVES?
you seem to be making yourself something, when you are nothing
@Julian Clarke I am nothing but a beggar at the feet of Jesus ... All Glory to God... Praise his Holy Name for his UNFAILING love... I cling to him - he is my only hope
@Julian Clarke you judge others unfit and unworthy, as though you have earned salvation yourself
TODAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION
Christ is here NOW and ready to take away the heavy burdens
Thank you for this message and all of them.. Amen
No faith, no grace, No death burial or resurrection of Christ no salvation
True grace we don't earn; God is willing to use His Son and His Spirit cannot be earned; nor came by the works ir deeds of the law.
Faith taking God at his word😊
Heres the Word of Reconciliation:"And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.”
Ro.3:22, 4:25
Good works are done and should be done immediately after anyone is saved by grace through faith .
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
I am the women born with a veil and 10 stars upon my head in his Revelation Chapters.
Ephesians 3:6
“That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”
Jesus before He took His last breath before He died He said it is Finish! We don't have to do anything just Believe that He died for us, was buried and rose victoriously 1Corinthians 15:1-4
Amen Brother
Salvation is just a matter of genuine or well-established faith being seen or read in one's heart by God the Savior .
There are three kinds of people!! One is charge with the crimes of breaking God laws!! He is escorted into the presence of God , the Judge!! The Judge ask him whether he has a lawyer to represent him!! But he doesn’t need one !! He cares nothing about his crimes nor did he feel any guilt !! He doesn’t care about sins in his life nor did he care about anything of God!! The judge found him guilty for breaking God’s laws and sentence him to eternal separation!! The second kind came before the God and told God, Lord I have made many mistakes in life and I have done many wrongs BUT ever since I try my best to live right for you !! I try to do good!! I attended church !! I became a member!! I took my children to Sunday schools and I try my best to keep your laws! By my conscience of right and wrong, I depend and trust in my work to do good and receive forgiveness from you!! I believe that based on my performance in life of good things, you would accept me and pardon my past and future sins! God ask , did you seek a lawyer to represent you ?? The man say no God, I figure I represent myself because I have change and started to live right!! God reply ... As much as I would like to pardon you , I cannot!! You have broken my laws and is guilty !! You have no one to represent you !! No matter how good you change , you cannot undo the laws you have broken nor can you be pardon!! Only through the shredding of innocent blood 🩸 can I pardon you !! You are wrong in believing and trusting in your own goodness to be pardon!! You have not received and trust my offer of grace to saved you !! You are still guilty and I sentence you to eternal separation!! The Third kind came before the Judge !! He would not look upon the judge face!! God say ... I see you have someone to represent you as your lawyer!! The man say yes ... your honor!! I am guilty for breaking your laws in life and I deserve my punishment!! But I have heard of a lawyer name Jesus that could represent me and offer me a plea bargain and pardon my crimes!! Your Honor, you have made a time period of your mercy and grace , and provided forgiveness to all criminals to want pardon!! The Judge reply ... yes I have!! I gave the nation a grace period to have a lawyer name Jesus that can plea on their behalf for pardon!! God say .. I have see you have taken and received my offer !! Jesus the lawyer approach the Judge and say.. yes this man had come to me for forgiveness and pardon for his crimes!! The Judge to Jesus can you explain why he will be pardon!! Jesus Turns to the man and say... I have took the punishment for you breaking God laws !! I became the criminal and took your spot !! I was punished for your crimes and sins !! My plea bargain is my blood 🩸!! Only through the shedding of my blood can you be forgiven for breaking God laws! I die in your place for you and I was resurrected to give you eternal life as oppose to eternal separation ! My blood is more than enough to forgive and pardon you !! You are not guilty nor is you condemn by my laws!! God say... I am a Just and Holy God!! I must punish sin and crimes for breaking my laws!! But I am also Gracious and merciful!! I have given the nation a grace period to be forgiven to all who accept and receive my Grace!! I am a Just Judge!! At the same time I justified those that receive my offer through Jesus!! You are pardon by my mercy and grace !! You believe in my Goodness that I have offer the nation and you believe and receive Jesus to represent you and give you a plea bargain of forgiveness!! You are forgiven Because you have believe and trusted in my Grace and Mercy for your life!! I find you not guilty in my courtroom!! We as true believers saved by the grace of our Lord Jesus , knows that we are children adopted into the family of a God!! The Holy Spirit sealed us unto the day of redemption!! We are already redeemed in our spirit by his blood 🩸!! Only through blood 🩸 can sins be forgiven!! The gospel is... that Christ die for our sins according to scripture and that he rose on the third day!! His death and blood is our forgiveness!! His resurrection is our eternal life!! We are baptized into his death , burial and resurrection!! We are united in Him, by Him, and through Him!! We are in Christ!! Christ in you , the hope of glory!! The mystery of the body of Christ and the mystery of godliness!! We as believers are under a law!! But it is not the same law that false teachers and pastors are teaching now a day!! They are not teachers of the gospel of Jesus Christ reveal to Paul!! They are teaching another gospel!! Let them be cursed!! We as believers are still under a LAW!! But it is the LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS!! The law of faith ! The law of grace!! The law of the spirit of life has set me FREE from the law of sin and death!! Millions do not know the Word of God and cannot RIGHTLY DIVIDE the words of God !! Why??? Because they don’t have the Holy Spirit of Truth!! Satan transform himself into an angel of light ( God) it would be normals that he would have used people as minsters ( teachers or pastors) of unrighteousness teaching false doctrines!! Seducing doctrine mix with a little truth and error!! Many denomination coming in the name of Jesus are teaching another gospel and doctrine of demons and traditions of men!! Be careful of false doctrines and apostasy!! Apostasy is the falling away from the the message of the Gospel of Grace !! It is teaching and believing ANOTHER GOSPEL other than the only Gospel of Jesus which is Salvation by Faith alone!! Believing in the finished Work of Jesus!! Without the Holy Spirit man is deceived !! No matter how intelligent or wise they think, they will be deceived and confused ! We do good works because the Holy Spirit lives in us!! He produces desires and fruits of his Spirit!! It is the fruits of the Spirit not our fruits!! The Holy Spirit heart ❤️ and our hearts become one united together by Love!! Jesus blood 🩸 mad that unity possible in our spirit!! The Bible say if we believe, we have the witness of the Spirit in our hearts!! This means there are three life changing principles in the Christian life!! First is God FACTS ! Secondly is our FAITH and Third is our FEELINGS!! God Words are FACTS!! 1) God Promises = This is my FACTS! 2) I believe = This is my faith 3) God fullfilled it and I ENJOY it= This is my FEELINGS. God order is always 1) FACTS. 2) FAITH. 3) FEELINGS. FACTS forms the foundation; faith rest on it; feeling comes last!! Most of us put FEELINGS FIRST!! God salvation is here!! But because we have free will , God cannot force us to believe in His Gospel!! When we BELIEVE what God say, we get SAVED by God!! Faith is not what saved us!! It is the means by which God save us!! When we believe , we have the witness of the Holy Spirit within us of what God say!! If God say by believing and receiving Jesus we becomes the sons of God, then it is 100 % a Facts!! We believe that and our feeling of Joy is experience in our hearts!! We at times may not FEEL saved but we are not saved by our feeling but by God FACTS!! We believe and trust what God say we are!! God Facts are God words!! His words are truth !! So We are saved by believing in what God say in the Gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If you confessed the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart God raised him from the dead to forgive your sins and give you eternal life, then you are SAVED!! Do you believe what God say??? Is God a liar??? Salvation is the greatest and most joyful gifts and experience a person can have but they must understand these life changing orders God gives!! 1) Facts 2 ) faith) 3)feelings!! They comes in those EXACT ORDER! a) God say it b) I believe it c) I then experience it in my heart! When God sealed us with the Holy Spirit, He produces news desires and love for Jesus! We want to please God!! And if we sin, our heart doesn’t feel right because the Holy Spirit lives in us!! So he prompt us to confess those sins because His blood 🩸 covers all sins for all times!! But here is the kicker!! We don’t desires to live a sinful life!! The attraction to live a life of sin is diminishing little by little!! Another Word , without Believing the gospel of Jesus Christ, we will not be given the Holy Spirit!! Then we won’t desire the things of God!! So believe in the good news ❤️😊!! We are saved to do good works!! We do not do good works to be saved independently from Jesus !! But that we produce fruits of the Spirit because the Holy Spirit reside in us!! The most liberating message for those that are saved is SONSHIP!! This is your standing and status !! Your new IDENTITY in CHRIST!! You have die with Christ!! All your sins are forgiven and all legal obligations to the law has been canceled by your death!! You have been crucified with Christ!! Now you are marry to a NEW LAW!! It is the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus!! You are still under a law!! But a new law!! The law of faith! The law of grace!! The law of the spirit of life!! When you realize who you are in Christ Jesus, your whole life will change!! Your self image and self worth and how you see yourself will be given a new set of eyes!! You are the Righteousness of God!! But you must receive this status with HUMILITY!! You cannot become spiritually PRIDEFUL and ARROGANT!! You must receive Grace with Humility!Amen
Powerful sermon!!
Ok works people. Which particular works at what time in our life and how many times? How bad can the works be? What is the works cut off point? If you sin, admit that you sinned, repent and thank God for His forgiveness. Carry on...
Sin can open doors that can't be closed. Some of the repercussions of sin over time are lukewarmness, spiritual blindness, spiritual deafness, spiritual drunkedness, demonic oppression or possession, depression, emptiness, desperation, a hardened heart, a loss of conscience, and enmity with God.
I still have 3 stars and the Messiah is coming with all Heaven angels for war against those fallen angels and Resurrections.
Thanks for wonderful message glory belongs to God .from.jenny magat from Paris France
Jenny Magat Mwah! (big kiss and hug) from Colorado. God bless you, Jenny.
@Julian Clarke - You are wrong. Didn't you listen to pastor Jordan. Listen to it again!
Love to you and yours brother. I wish all churches would have a short version of this message every Sunday for the guests and the members who sleep part of the time. One day they might be awake and it sinks in. Heheee
Faith is also a gift of God!
Thankyou so much for uploading this I do need this message so much!
Your very welcome! I'm glad it helped you. More great video's on the way! : )
+Fox Mcloud .......
There are 23 Salvation verses that teach or mention nothing but FAITH to be saved , so are you telling us they are all wrong teachings on salvation?
Bluebird Eagles Chapter 2
God has chosen the poor of this world who are rich in faith-Salvation is gained by keeping the whole law-Faith without works is dead.
Chapter 7
Fire comes down from heaven and consumes the sacrifices and burnt offerings-The Lord appears to Solomon and promises to bless the people-The Israelites will prosper if they keep the commandments.
He came to not abolish the law but to fulfill i, now we don,t have to sacrifice animals but we still need to keep some of the law.
You realize there are more than 10 commandments right?...
eh... the bible says if you break 1 law you've broken all, if you go that route. There are bible verses where the apostles say whats expected of us as christians, yes there is an expectation of change in the bible but does the change save us? no... however, it talks about rewards for good works.
as a christian experiencing heavy spiritual warfare - chasing me away from grace and putting me under the law is one of satans schemes, but if you go that route you arent able to follow the law no matter how hard you try and satan will make sure to manipulate things in your life to prove how useless we are. so thats not the way - faith however - is the way. and one of those barriers to climb over is to trust what Jesus did for us is (more than) enough.
i guess what ive been trough in terms of spiritual warfare is what counts as "works" BTW, so i think Jesus will make sure we are justified and do whats expected from us himself. if he wants me to do something, he'll make sure i end up doing it somehow.
James McCluksey Isn't salvation through believing in the finished work of Christ?
Rejoice rest He rose again the good news, the finished work of the cross, the new covenant ⚘ 🌚 👍
Rejoice rest Christ rose again the finished work of the cross the good news the new covenant 🌷🌑👍
Hold firm to the covenant of Christ.
Being rewarded for what you believe rather than how you behave is completely unfair. I haven't chosen not to believe, I simply find religious ideas ridiculous and there is nothing I can do about that. Fortunately, I don't need 'saving' anyway, neither does anyone else - I am not 'lost'.
Well the problem here Dave is that you actually believe in their words which they say are the words of God but are contrary to what the bible says. You need faith and works to inherit the kingdom of God. The bible says in these last days that you will have professed Christians coming to you saying that Jesus is the messiah/Christ and will deceive the unlearned with their false doctrines.
Matthew 24:4-5 King James Version (KJV)
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Here the following verse is biblical proof that you need both faith and works. You cannot just confess Christ Jesus and continue doing all manner of evil which the bible says that sinners will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Those that preach they you don't need to keep the ten commandments which are good to keep are liars and the truth is not in these people.They literally believe they are forgiven for every evil they commit because Christ paid for all their sins at Calvary but these people are in for a rude awakening come judgement day.Teaching all manner of falsehoods and have many people mock the God of the bible because they think he really said these things these false ministers preach.
James 2:14-26 King James Version (KJV)
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Now here is a verse showing what happens to one who believes in the gospel and is baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and decide they want to do evil.
Hebrews 10:26-31 King James Version (KJV)
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
You sin willfully you are going to the lake of fire, but these people cherry pick the bible having you believe that you don't need to change to inherit the kingdom.
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
I understand that salvation is a gift, but whenever I receive a gift I feel gratitude and when I feel gratitude I want to do things for the person who gifted me. Is that still counted as a work on my part? If someone makes me happy, I want to make them happy. I know comment's on this video are few and far between, but if anyone has insight, share it.
Jesus Christ says that you are saved by believing in Him and being His Follower (a "Disciple"). Christ forgives if you are not perfect but you have to be His Follower. Christ says that man will know that you are His Disciples, *IF* you have love for one another" - John 13:35
Was the thief next to Jesus on the cross a disciple?
@@slfudct Paul brought the final revelation from God for man. The Lord's dealings with men have changed over the millennia. This is nothing new. Christ lived and died under the law. To release man from the law. He was not speaking to us when he preached to Jews before his death, burial and resurrection. None of the Apostles understood this for quite some time after Christ left the earth. And they surely never expected Jesus to use Paul to give out His final truth. Paul is the sole arbiter of Christian faith and practice for us today. If you reject the Truth of Christ given to Paul you reject Jesus. As have most of the so called church for 1900 years.
I am so happy to have found this.....I have been in bondage under condemnation for 11 horrific years and I'm talking and every day almost every minute bondage and fearanyway can someone please explain to me why Paul says in Corinthians if you do this and if you do that you will not see the kingdom of heaven..... Thatt always confused me because I'm like okay did he died for our sins or not???? I'm not looking for a way to sin.... I just simply have been confused by that
Far too many have been deceived to believe in the "idea or concept" of Christ, but not in Christ Himself. This short video explores what it means to fulfill our belief through faith to provide an understanding of what it means to be saved by grace through faith: czcams.com/video/K_XMpazXvLo/video.html
If a non believer can do good works , how much more when he repents and feels / realizes he is created , loved , forgiven , accepted and saved by God because of his genuine faith?
We do not repent faith plus NOTHING ROMANS 4:3
Messages like this grieve me. What about obedience? What about repentance from sin? What baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of that sin? What about the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance? What about living a godly, bible-obeying life? Believing on Christ is just the first step, Pastor.
Donna Morrow Stop grieving , Donna . The Bible has about 25 explicit & straightforward salvation verses that teach nothing but faith to be saved . About repentance , you cannot separate it from saving faith or true faith . In other words , a man is understood to have true faith right after his repentance . About baptism for the forgiveness of sins , true faith or saving faith is one acceptable substitute for the purpose , aside from the fact that baptism can be done after a man is saved ,
Don't mix the teaching on Salvation with the teachings on Sanctification . The former tackles "how to be saved" while the latter "how to live a Christian [saved] life" . Salvation requires just our true faith while Sanctification requires good works , obedience , love , charity , perseverance , patience , forgiving spirit , etc.
BLUEBIRD Thanks for your reply, Bluebird. :)
Faith comes first, then repentance. Two separate steps. Repentance is what God gives. But without first believing in God, or faith, we will not feel repentance, because God will not give it, because we have not pleased Him.
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Based on a sharp feeling of regret, which is sorrow for our sins, we then repent. Here is what repentance looks and feels like:
Acts 2:37
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
After we repent, we are baptized for the forgiveness of those sins that we repented of.
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Notice the conjunction "and." It joins 2 separate things- repentance, and remission of sins, which is forgiveness.
When we obey Jesus's command to be baptized in His name for the forgiveness of sins, then we receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, which is proved when we speak audibly in tongues, which is a language we have not learned.
Acts 2:37-41
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lordour God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Donna Morrow Someone has you bound by legalism... Tongues is not necessary... that is learned behavior, not the Holy Spirit. You must be born again, to see the Kingdom of Heaven. But don't take MY word for it... just ask Jesus.
+Donna Morrow ,,,, You are wrong . Knowing the kindness of God will lead us to REPENTANCE . [ Romans 2:4 ]
Using a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, I did a search on the word, "repentance." It is a noun. It means, compunction, which is a sharp feeling of regret. Scripturally, it is only given by God. We do not just decide to feel sorry for our sins, Bluebird. God gives us that awareness of how we have been wrong. The kindness of God gives us repentance.
2 Corinthians 7:9-11 Notice how they were made sorry. It happened TO them. They experienced a feeling that motivated them to change for the better.
Acts 5:31: ... to give repentance
Acts 11:18:...Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance
2 Corinthians 7:10... godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation
2 Timothy 2:25... God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And very many more.
Now you can call it legalism, but we serve the God of accuracy. So go on and adjust His word to your belief system if you want to. But you will be in error.
I wouldn't want to face God at the white throne judgement, and tell Him why His words were not important enough for me to believe He meant what He said.
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
John 28:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And when it says "not of works". It means not your works, but the works of God you better do.
John 6:29-31 New International Version (NIV)
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Galatians 2:16 ►
know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.
The only work God requires is believe. Jesus told his disciples how to work the works of God. He said believe on the one in whom he has sent.
Amen ♡
Yes, we are saved by grace and faith in Jesus. Yet that is not the end of the Christian walk and growth.
Grace and faith is the root of salvation. And are actions and works of righteousness is the very manifestation of that faith.
James wrote: What does it profit, my brethren, if some say he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or a sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, 'depart in peace, be warmed and filled, but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what doe it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say. 'you have faith, and I have works,' Show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith BY my works." ~ James 2:14-18
"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble!" ~ James 2:19. ~(Many demons and even Satan believe that Jesus died and rose again. They believe that Jesus was the son of God, does this mean that they too will be saved)?
"Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Do you see that faith was working TOGETHER with his works, and by works his faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is JUSTIFIED by works, and not by faith only, likewise, was not Ra'hab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." ~ James 2:21-26
Many Christians today are looking for and teaching any partial doctrine to justify themselves so they will not be required to do any works of faith, nor OBEY God. They are looking for any excuse to stay stagnated in their unfruitful and lukewarm lives as a so called "Christian". They have picked and chosen a few verses and teachings taken out of the context of the whole bible and plan of salvation in hopes to ease their troubled minds from doing any works or keeping the laws of God. They refuse to acknowledge the whole of Gods' word and the many other verses that teach us to seek and obey God, and to live a life of righteousness (right doing).
Paul also wrote: "Now may the God of Peace, He leading up out of the dead, the great Shepherd of the sheep, in the blood of the everlasting covenant, our Lord Jesus, perfect you in every good work, to DO HIS WILL, doing in you which is pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever and ever, Amen." ~ Hebrews 13:20-21.
Colossians 3:5-8 ~ "Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth; fornication, uncleaness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry, because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them. But now you yourselves are to put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,.."
What happen to the preachers decades ago that taught their congregations to OBEY God and KEEP His commandments?
"Fear God and keep His commandments for the hour of His judgment HAS come, and worship Him who made the heavens and the earth, the sea and springs of water." ~ Apoc 14.7
"Here is the patience of the saints, here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." ~ Apoc. 14.12
"Blessed are those who DO His commandments, that they may have the right to the Tree of Life, and may enter through the gates into the city." ~ Apoc. 22.14.
Why can you not understand the very simple phrase/simple English words "Not Of Works" in very clear , direct and explicit salvation teaching Ephesians 2:8,9 ?
the hell is apoc
Zhuellor don't confuse redemption with sanctification.
amen!
Ted Graham.....What!? You can only be redeemed through sanctification......
I have born-again Christian friends who say to me, “You Mormons are trying to earn your way to heaven.”
I say, “No, we are not earning heaven. We are learning heaven. We are preparing for it (see D&C 78:7). We are practicing for it.”
They ask me, “Have you been saved by grace?”
I answer, “Yes. Absolutely, totally, completely, thankfully-yes!”
Then I ask them a question that perhaps they have not fully considered: “Have you been changed by grace?”
We are saved by Christ's grace, but only after being judged by our works - Titus 3:5, Titus 1:16, Rev. 22:12-14
Christ will purify unto himself his elect people ("a peculiar people who are zealous of good works") - Titus 2:14
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them
if you believe you have to follow the laws, obey, serve, be baptize and so on to be and to stay saved, friend you are trusting in your works and will not see heaven for you are not saved, we can only be saved by grace without works!
after we get saved we have a second decision to make, and that is to serve and live for Christ which will bring forth rewards here and in heaven, for we will come in front of God to be judged in the judgement seat of Christ where our works will be tested by fire.
the unbelievers will be judged in the white throne judgement where they will receive punishment according to their works and be thrown into the lake of fire "hell"
we need to learn how to separate salvation and discipleship
if you choose not to serve and live for Christ you will lose those rewards you could have had but Romans 4:5 says you will still be saved.
if you backslide into your old ways God says He will discipline His sons and daughters and sometimes take you home early, example of that we can see in the church of corinth.
What do you mean by be baptized? Do you mean being baptized at birth or baptized to be born again?
Amen Duarte, well said bro!
First Name the baptism of water after you trust Christ is a one time thing, and its done to demonstrate your faith in that you have been washed by the blood of Christ, water doesn't take away sin, is symbolic friend. there are many kinds of baptisms taught in the bible, also the baptism of fire which all unbelievers will take part in, the baptism of the holy ghost is one that all believers receive the moment they trust in Christ as Saviour. hope this explanation helped clear things up a bid, God bless
I use to mix works with salvation and it only lead my life to more sin and separated me from my Lord. Cuse the more I looked to the law the more I saw my insufficiency. I ask myself now how can people not see it for themselves? How short they fall. Simple. Pride and fear. The killers of faith. It's easy legalism. People of all races and nations lower the standard of the law so they fit in. But if we look to Gods perfect law we have fallen short and this is what Paul talks about in Romans first couple of chapters.
Rom 3
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
We become conscious of sin by the law it gives us no life whatsoever ot only condemns us and that is what is was meant to do so it is good and holy.
◄ Romans 7:12 ►
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12So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
13Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
Galatians 3:22 ►
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But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
It is by believing in Gods grace than you can grow in Gods grace and the richness of his mercy and you have a loving non judgemental heart just like Jesus who freely and graciously gave us His love on the cross pored out pure and abundantly. That's why Jesus said I have come so that they may have life and life abundant. It seems to us good to add works of many kinds to the simplicity of the Gospel. But Paul's charge is clear against that.
Galatians 3:1 ►
Context
Faith Brings Righteousness
1You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? 2This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? 3Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4Did you suffer so many things in vain-if indeed it was in vain? 5So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
This is the question is he doesnt deny you his very Spirit that is in himself and he does this only through your faith in trust in christ and not the law, how can he deny you heavan wich is NOT greater than he himself(the Spirit)?
I dont say by faith alone because that's wrong. I say by grace through faith in what Jesus did on calvary ALONE are we saved. Now people think this means lawlesness but their damnation is Just.
Rom 3:8
And some people even slander us by claiming that we say, “The more we sin, the better it is!” Those who say such things deserve to be condemned.
Yikes it becomes clear that it is acarnel mind that thinks that God's grace alone means sin. Just like in Paul's time it is now but rejecting Gods grace is carnal and will only make you hide yur true sins yur bitterness ur pride your gluttony your lack of faith your irrational fear your lusts you unforgiveness you're looking down at others who are not in your social class. just like Paul it will make you a murderer in your heart and God forbid in Paul's case an actual murderer. Thats not to say the law is evil or makes you do this but sin takes it's power by it.
1 Corinthians 15:56, “The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.”
Rom 7:7
What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "You shall not covet."
(Another point here some say its just the ritual law but here is evident its also the 10 commandments" you shall not covet")
The power of what Jesus did for us and the liberty we have in him is what gives us power over sin that is that he who bbelieves shal not come into condemnation but has passed from death on to life.
Now after you are saved he cals us to live for him out of love and gratitude for all that he has done for us justifiying us and declaring us rightous by His obedience
Rom 7
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Do not reject the sufficiency of Jesus death burial and resurrection! And His gracious grace towards you!
Mat 19:16 And behold, a man came up to him, saying, "Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?" Mat 19:17 And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. IF you would enter life, keep the commandments."
Mar 10:17 And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" Mar 10:18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. Mar 10:19 You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother. Mar 10:20 And he said to him, "Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth." Mar 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, "You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
Luk 18:18 And a ruler asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" Luk 18:19 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. Luk 18:20 You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'" Luk 18:21 And he said, "All these I have kept from my youth." Luk 18:22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
Joh 14:15 “IF you love me, YOU WILL keep my commandments.
Joh 15:10 IF you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, IF we keep his commandments. 1Jn 2:4 Whoever says "I know him" but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 1Jn 2:5 but whoever keeps his word (Commandments), in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: 1Jn 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.
1Jn 3:22 and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.
1Jn 3:24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
Did you know Jesus gave us over 1,000 commandments in the New Testament! That He expounded upon the law given to Moses, and didn’t change it, as Deuteronomy states:
Deu 18:17 And the LORD said to me, 'They are right in what they have spoken. Deu 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Jesus) like you (Moses) from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command him. Deu 18:19 And whoever will not listen to my words (Commandments) that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
The TRUTH is The Word of God, and NOT the doctrines of men…
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother PAUL also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in ALL his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from your own steadfastness.
2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever. Amen.
Vs. 17 “led away with the ERROR of the WICKED”
G4106 “ERROR” Feminine of G4108 (as abstraction); objectively FRAUDULENCE; subjectively a straying from orthodoxy or piety: - deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.
G113 “WICKED” From G1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of G5087 (in the sense of enacting); LAWLESS, that is, (by implication) criminal: - wicked.
Don’t be “LED AWAY WITH THE FRAUDULANCE OF THE LAWLESS”!!!
“DECEIVED BY THE LAWLESS”
Malachi’s Prophecy of “Great Day of the LORD”
Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, says the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, says the LORD of hosts.
Mal 4:4 REMEMBER YE THE LAW OF MOSES my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet (Repent and turn back to God’s Law) before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Commands from our SAVIOR!
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Grace for salvation without works was not available until given to Paul. It was "hid in God" per Ephesians 3:8-9. Therefore all scriptures before Acts 9 could not save a gentile or Jew without works.
Ephesians 3:8-9, "Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ"
Paul is the example and first to receive it., 1 Timothy 1:16, "Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting."
Obadiah 1:18
Watch my teaching "Warning-Apostle Paul misunderstood causes sin".
Remember the text said a messenger of Satan was sent to him, God didn't send the thorn the Kingdom of darkness did to stop paul
I am an ex Adventist Pastor. Any churches that you recommenced that preach the message of Grace?
If there's a Calvary Chapel in your area, you can try them. They teach verse by verse through the Bible. Their leader used to be Chuck Smith, since he died I'm not sure who is the leader now.
There are many churches that adhere to the salvation teaching in Ephesians 2:8, 9 - and I believe one them is very near your place .
Independent fundamental Baptist
How do we receive faith and grace
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We acknowledge that Christ’s own sacrifice provides us with a clean slate against ALL past sin. We then walk in obedience to his commandments.
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those *who obey him.”*
We earnestly seek God through our obedience, and he rewards us with his Holy Spirit to strengthen and further keep us from sin.
Ezekiel 36: 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 *And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.*
And who are God’s children?
Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of *her offspring - those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.*
Because ...
Romans 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, *but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.*
And what are his commandments?
1. Don’t put anything above or before God
2. Don’t pay homage to idols (whether rock or rock star)
3. Don’t dishonor God’s name as trivial
4. Don’t work on the sabbath
5. Don’t dishonor your parents
6. Don’t murder anyone
7. Don’t commit adultery
8. Don’t steal
9. Don’t falsely accuse anyone
10. Don’t covet something that already belongs to someone else
If we love God with all our heart, mind, body, and spirit and love each other as we love ourselves we will follow all the above commandments and they will be written on our hearts (meaning we will love Gods commandments so much that we will know them by heart). God and his commandments are inseparable for he is righteous and perfect and so are his laws. By our obedience to his laws we are proven to be his children.
And how then do we know for certain we are children of God?
John 14:21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
What about those people who claim grace alone is sufficient to save us? They use Paul’s words to contradict all that Jesus taught. Peter forewarns us of exactly that.
2 Peer 3:16 speaking of this as Paul does in all his letters. *There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction,* as they do the other scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, *beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability.*
I liked the first part of your message because I do believe in God's good grace but please don't teach people not to get baptized. The Bible says this: "When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
Getting baptized is how you get the Holy Spirit and promise of God. You choose God and trust Him and getting baptized IS a work of God (grace of God) (not of man, otherwise men could baptize themselves. We say it in Jesus's name because it's a work of God). If you believe onto Christ you will get baptized in his name and desire His blood (forgiveness). Right? You can't do it without that. Jesus Christ is the way. Please I beg you. God Bless.
If you’re saved by grace alone, you better hope you die immediately after salvation because beyond that you need to continue to obey God’s commandments.
Of course we are saved from past sins through faith. That doesn’t mean you can’t earn damnation again through sin.
We must have the Holy Spirit, be a child of God, AND be in Christ to enter Heaven - ALL of which require continued obedience to God’s commandments.
You are saved by FAITH alone. TRUE. Works alone cannot save you. Also TRUE. What Jesus did on the cross is sufficient. However, if it is by FAITH alone that we are saved, then the question is: How do we know we truly have faith in the first place? I believe that James 2:26 answers this question: "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." Not that works alone can save you, but it is by your works that your faith is either confirmed (proven) or denied. As James says in 2:14-16 (KJV), "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?" If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?" Like the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Your actions belie what is truly in your heart.
+Larry Villano
Are you saying God cannot save you today unless you show your faith and work at the same time today ? Jesus saved the thief on the cross because He knew the thief had true faith . In other words the All-knowing Savior is the one to know whether or not you have true faith . Jesus can know/read your true faith inside your hearth , even while you do no good works , do you agree ?
+BLUEBIRD The timing of faith and works is not part of the process of salvation. Neither is "reading" a person's heart part of the process of salvation according to scripture. Remember, it was only AFTER the thief did two things that Jesus made the promise to save him: (1) the thief verbally admitted that he was a sinner (he confessed his sins) and, (2) the thief verbally confessed with his mouth the Lordship of Jesus. Romans 10:9 (KJV) says: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Because Jesus did not promise the thief salvation until AFTER the thief spoke with his mouth what was in his heart, supports this scripture. This begs the question: If Jesus relied on what was in the thief's heart, then why did Jesus promise him salvation only AFTER he spoke up and not before?
*****
Are you telling me God cannot know or read I have true faith in my heart unless I show my good works ?
+BLUEBIRD God knew Abraham's heart. Yet, Abraham's faith was still tested by God (Gen 22:9 - KJV) when Abraham was commanded to sacrifice his son Isaac. Why the test if God already knew what the outcome would be? In addition, after Abraham proved his obedience to God by lifting the knife to sacrifice his precious son, why did God then say (Gen 2:16 KJV): "...now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son, from me... Notice the key words here: "NOW" I know. If God ALREADY knew what Abraham would do, why would He say, "NOW" I know? If you can answer these questions, please do. But support your answers with scripture. As the bible says, we do not know that mind of God. His ways are not our ways. So when you talk about what God would or wouldn't do, you MUST rely on scripture and not your own personal ideas.
***** Don't go to testing of God . Just answer my question first if God can read the true faith inside the heart of human .
There are various opinions concerning the virtue and requirements of salvation. Misinterpretation of Paul's words has lead to much confusion and rejection of the full gospel plan. Failure to comprehend the two-fold purpose of the atonement has caused many to believe that all that is essential for salvation is to confess the name of Jesus Christ. Works, say others, avail us nothing, for faith alone is sufficient. For their "witness" the words of Paul to the Ephesians and the Romans are quoted:
Eph2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom10:9
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
We indeed agree, we are redeemed by grace. Through the atonement of Jesus Christ all mankind may be saved. The resurrection shall come to all, regardless of the life they may have lived. This is free grace without works; however each individual will stand before the judgment-seat of God to be Judged according to his own works.
Those who teach the doctrine of "faith alone " are searching for an "easy road to Heaven ." "Belief only" is a "lazy man's religion," for worthwhile things demand effort. Someone has referred to them as Bible Christians--- their religion is in the bible and not very much in themselves. Sir Wilford Greenfell said the gospel is a "religion of action, not fiction."
The words of Paul to the Ephesians are not quoted in enough detail by adherents of the doctrine of faith without works.
The 10th verse reads
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Paul was speaking to a class of people who believed that man could not be saved unless he subscribed to the law of Moses. Such individuals were expected to save themselves, not comprehending the saving power of the atonement of Jesus Christ.
Paul does not preach salvation without human effort. "We are created in Christ Jesus unto good works." Genuine faith in the Savior leads to love-inspired works of good works. This faith is " not of ourselves, " but is a "gift of God."
It has come to us through "grace".
Pauls epistle to the Romans was written to members of the church who had already accepted the ordinances and principles of the gospel. He admonished them to continue in their belief, "confessing with thy mouth the Lord Jesus." One need only read all of Paul's epistles to realize that he taught a complete gospel of faith and works. He reminded the Romans in Rom2:5-6
of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
He admonished Titus to preach "sound doctrine,....in all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works." Titus2:1-8
Those who claim that Paul taught the doctrine of "faith alone " are contending against the doctrine of Jesus Christ and the apostle James. The Lord has said that we should live " by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. " Matt4:4
He taught faith, repentance, baptism, and the necessity of the gifts of the spirit."
He said in John14:21
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Paul's doctrine does not contradict the doctrine of James. Harmony exists in the teachings of the apostles yet those who misinterpret Paul's words to teach their view of " saved by grace and not by works" are careful to avoid the more abundant evidences of scripture.
(James2:14,17-22,24,26)
Again James said:
James1:22'-24
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Every soul will be judged by his works
Grace and works unite to bring salvation. We believe that through the grace of Jesus Christ we are saved. He performed for us those things which we could not do for ourselves, but there are certain requirements in the gospel of Jesus Christ which we must obey for ourselves which are essential to salvation. Every man will give an account of his works.
Scriptures teach that such is the case
Rev20:12-13
Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Turn away from your sinful ways and seek our Heavenly Father Yah for help. Ask him to send his son Yashua to be your guide and the lamp underneath your feet. Keep Yah’s Holy commandments including observing his holy Sabbath on the 7th day which is on Saturday. Seek to be sanctified and holy for he is holy. Whatever you shall ask you shall receive as long as you are walking in his statues.
The 10 Commandments
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make idols.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honor your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet.
Jubilees 1:19-21
Prayer for the lost and blind
1. Let thy mercy, O Yah, be lifted up upon Thy people, and create in them an upright spirit, and let not the spirit of the enemy rule over them to accuse them before Thee, and to ensnare them from all the paths of righteousness, so that they may perish from before Thy face.
2. But they are Thy people and Thy inheritance, which thou hast delivered with thy great power from the hands of the Egyptians: create in them a clean heart and a holy spirit, and let them not be ensnared in their sins from henceforth until eternity.'
I pray Yah that you will soften peoples’ hearts so that they can confess and repent of their own sins and the sins of their fathers.
I pray that your people will be obedient to your holy instructions which lead to eternal life. May they turn to you father in uprightness with all their heart and with all their soul. Circumcise the foreskin of their heart and fill them with your righteousness. Cleanse them so that they shall not turn away from you unto eternity.
🔥No you're not.
Jesus said:
" ...... If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” (Matt 19:17)
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)
Sounds like there are some works involved, there.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
[9]Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[10]Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.,, ,... This Bible says you better repent, or you will not enter into the kingdom of God. A person who is saved engages in these behaviors, it says be not deceived, you will not make it to the kingdom of God
They need to call it
THE NO OBLIGATION SALVATION!
Matt 7
13 ¶ Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
This discussion difference is a matter of semantics or tongue gymnastics. If works aren't important then why do we have commandments or a final judgement? Why did Jesus teach to live a certain way if works aren't important?
How exactly did you get "works aren't important"? If somone os teaching that than thats false doctrine. Works are insanely important so much so that God has prepared them for us before hand. But that has nothing to do with being redeemed and saved by Gods grace. It is the justice of one Jesus not yours just like it was the sin of one adam that brought death. So Jesus has brought life and life eternal. If works didn't save you how do they keep you saved?
Relying upon the totality of Bible teachings and upon clarifications received through modern revelation, we testify that being cleansed from sin through Christ’s Atonement is conditioned upon the individual sinner’s faith, which must be manifested by obedience to the Lord’s command to repent, be baptized, and receive the Holy Ghost (see Acts 2:37-38). “Verily, verily, I say unto thee,” Jesus taught, “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God” (John 3:5; see also Mark 16:16; Acts 2:37-38). Believers who have had this required rebirth at the hands of those having authority have already been saved from sin conditionally, but they will not be saved finally until they have completed their mortal probation with the required continuing repentance, faithfulness, service, and enduring to the end.
Some Christians accuse Latter-day Saints who give this answer of denying the grace of God through claiming they can earn their own salvation. We answer this accusation with the words of two Book of Mormon prophets. Nephi taught, “For we labor diligently … to persuade our children … to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Ne. 25:23). And what is “all we can do”? It surely includes repentance (see Alma 24:11) and baptism, keeping the commandments, and enduring to the end. Moroni pleaded, “Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ” (Moro. 10:32).
Once as I can see know how to explain the Bible verses, please answer a Question for me.
My Question
If Jesus is God whom the another being he was calling MY GOD after his death?
*After his death and before being lifted to heaven*
John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to *MY GOD* and your God.'"
*After being in heavens for more than 90 years with God*
Revelation 3:12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of *MY GOD*. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of *MY GOD* and the name of the city of *MY GOD*, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from *MY GOD* ; and I will also write on them *MY NEW NAME*
Isn't Revelation 3:12 should as the following if Jesus is God:
Revelation 3:12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in *MY* temple. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them *MY* name and the name of *MY* city, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of *MY* heaven; and I will also write on them *my new name*.
Notice Jesus for 4 times calls another being "MY GOD" (HIS GOD)
Notice also Jesus saying MY NEW NAME while before he was saying "MY GOD" to show you he is not Godthe one he was calling before as MY GOD
I will explain more:
1) You believe Jesus was 100% human on earth and when he dead on the cross he completed his mission on earth to be cursed and die for your sin.
2) After his death he was lifted to heavens to go back as 100% God as you believe.
3) As you know God CANNOT HAVE GOD
4) Jesus after his death KEPT calling another being as "MY GOD"
5) Since God CANNOT HAVE GOD and Jesus KEPT calling God as MY GOD then Jesus is not God
Also if we read Revelation 1:1 where Jesus still need God to tell him what to speak same as he was told what to speak on earth ANOTHER evidence that Jesus is not God
Also read Hebrews 1:9 where Paul himself says Jesus has a God
According to the bible it speaks about two beings as God. Father God and Son God.
John 1:1-11 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Here you see God with God..
The Word=God the son Jehovah who is the God of the old testament and the new
God= The father who no man has seen nor heard, but the son of God.. He will be revealed on the eighth day.
Genesis 1:26-28 King James Version (KJV)
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Here in the book of Genesis God is plural meaning more than one.
Psalm 110 King James Version (KJV)
110 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Proverbs 30:4-5 King James Version (KJV)
4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Here is speaks about God and his Son who is also God.
Here in the book of psalms it speaks are about two beings that are Lord.The Father and The Son.
Isaiah 12 King James Version (KJV)
12 And in that day thou shalt say, O Lord, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me.
2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
Here it tells you that Jehovah is our salvation he is the one who sent by Father God to die for the sins of the world. Jesus is also called Emmanuel meaning God is with us.Isaiah 9:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Hebrews 1:6-8 King James Version (KJV)
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Here you have The Father God commanding all angels to worship his son who he sent to the world.And the father called his own son GOD! You have in the verses you've quoted that the son of God is calling the Father his God and you have the father calling his son God because they are both God.
It was the father who gave his son the word and it was the son created all things as the bible says. When Jehovah became a man he had to depend on the father because the bible says he came not to do his own will but to do the will of the father that sent him. He retained Godhood when the father resurrected him.
Matthew 28:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
John 1:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Here it says that nobody has ever seen nor heard the Father but the son of God so therefore The one that was speaking in the old testament was Jesus. It is written in the bible that the children of Israel saw the God of Israel as did Abraham this is Jesus says this..
John 8:56-59 King James Version (KJV)
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Mr Black #12TribesAllNegroes
Next you quoted Genesis 1:26(KJV) saying "And God said, Let us make man in *our image* "
God address himself as “WE” and "US" in the Bible and in the Quran and this is known as "The plural of majesty (royal plural)". The plural of majesty (royal plural) “US”, “We” is clearly attested to in writing from royalty through the ages. The majestic plural emphasizes something or honors someone in a stylistic way. When a member of royalty, referring to himself, says, “We” or “Us” instead of “I” he/she is using the majestic plural. For example, the plural of majesty is used in Ezra 4:18
Ezra 4:18(NASB) the document which you sent to *us* has been translated and read before me.
As you can read in the king of Artaxerxes reply to the men of the Trans-Euphrates, the king said in his letter “you sent US”, he is after all one king but he used the plural majesty “US”.
The majestic plural is found in one of God’s most common names in the Old Testament, Elohim. Elohim is plural for the singular word Eloah. The Jews as determined opposes of the doctrine of the Trinity who believes in the existence of ONE and only God without any partners or sons addresses God as Elohim when referring to one and only God. The Bible translators translate Elohim(plural) to God ( singular) too.
In Genesis we read God say *I* and *ME* which = ONE being
Genesis 17:1(NASB) Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, " *I am God* Almighty; Walk *before Me* and be blameless.
Genesis 35:11(NASB) God also said to him, "*I am God* Almighty; Be fruitful and multiply; A nation and a company of nations shall come from you, And kings shall come forth from you.
Read more in Genesis where God addresses Himself as *I*, Genesis 26:24, 28:13, 46:3, and 31:13.
Moses who wrote most of Genesis emphasized that there is only ONE GOD and no others beside Him:
Deuteronomy 4:35,39(NASB) 35"To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, *He is* God; there is no other besides *Him* 39"Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that the LORD, *He is God* in heaven above and on the earth below; *there is no other*
Notice Moses refer to God by saying *HE IS* he did not say *THEY ARE"
Let us read what Prophet Isaiah says, he use *I* which = ONE
Isaiah 46:9 (KJV) Remember the former things of old: for *I am* God, and there is none else; *I am* God, and there is none like me,
1- God address himself by saying "I am God" The word "I" is singular
2- God says “there is none else” means there is only ONE GOD.
3- God says "there is none like me", He did not say "there is none like us"
This makes it very clear
1 Corinthians 8:4 (KJV) ..., we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that *there is none other God but one*
1 Timothy 2:5(KJV) *For there is one God* and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV) Hear, O Israel: *The LORD our God is one LORD*:
And many many verses in the Bible to show God is ONE BUT still God address himself with plural in some verses in the Bible
So either God is using the plural of majesty (royal plural) “US”, “We” in Genesis 1:26 or He is contradicting himself, and since God does not contradict Himself, then GOD IS USING The plural of majesty (royal plural) “US”, “We” in some verses.
Allah say in Quran 112 (Interpretation of meaning)
Say He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah the Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks);
He neither begets nor was He begotten;
And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.
Mr Black #12TribesAllNegroes
Last reply for your LONG reply
To better understand we must read John 8:58 in its context. Let us start from
Now let read from John 8:25 - 59
*25* "Who are you?" they asked. "Just what I have been telling you from the beginning," Jesus replied.
What Jesus was telling them from the beginning? He was telling them in verse number 12 God sent him with a message that will takes the people from the darkness to the light. Whoever followed him will have light in his life. Also he was telling them in verses 16 and 18 “The Father(GOD) sent him”.
*26* I have much to say in judgment of you. But *he who sent me* is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.
■Jesus clearly say God sent him
■Jesus says he speak what God tell him to say ( *Does God need to be told what to say* )
*27* They did not realize that He had been speaking to them about the Father.
*28* So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
■ Jesus testify his weakness and he only do what God order him to do
■ Jesus testify that what God tell him to speak
■ John 8:28 clearly prove without any doubt that Jesus is not God. Why would Jesus make such a statement if he later on wants to claim he is God?
*29* The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."
■ God was with Jesus same as God is with us
■ Jesus ALWAYS DO WHAT PLEASES GOD, if he is GOD why he seek to please another being?
*54* Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.
■ If Jesus God HE ALWAYS GLORIFY himself and no another being will give it to him
Isaiah 48:11 "For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And *My glory I will not give to another*
*55* Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word.
■ If Jesus is God then he is telling them HE KNOW HIMSELF!
■ If Jesus is God then he will NOT OBEY anybody!
*56* Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
■ WOW Was Abraham exist alive during Jesus time (HE SAW IT)
*57* "You are not yet fifty years old," they said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" 58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
■ For Jesus saying I AM, this does not prove he is God
■ Where in this verse Jesus say he EXISTED before Abraham
By reading the verses from 8:25 until 8:58 and keeping in mind John 8:, in no way Jesus say I am God, because if he to tell people he is God, THEN he was lying in what he said in verses before 8:58.
*Let us talk English wise*
This sentence the way it is constructed does not make any sense. The basic of English rules to have a complete sentence is to have subject and predicate and the predicate modify the subject. And every predicate must have a verb. Let us analyze the John 8:58
Subject: “before Abraham was”
Predicate: “I am” in Ancient Greek: ego eimi
Christian are not using “I am” as a verb, they using it as proper noun.
Let us try to substitute “I am” with Jesus, we read it as following
"Before Abraham was born, Jesus!" Does not make any since? Jesus what?
Let us try to substitute “I am” with God, we read it as following
"Before Abraham was born, God!" Does not make any since? God what?
This is not a complete sentence and it is grammatically wrong. Jesus was a good speaker and will never make this simple mistake. There is a problem in the translation itself. For example read what Adam said to the sons of Heth:
Genesis 23:4 "I am a foreigner and stranger among you…".
This is a compete sentence.
What is missing from “I am ….” Was Jesus interrupted and did not continue the sentence? Did Jesus want to say “I am he” or “I am the one who is being referred to“? In Greek language it is a common expression to say “I am he”. “I am” statement is a totally different construct from the one which God gave to Moses when God said “I AM WHO I AM” which means God is the self-existing one.
Again, By reading the verses from 8:25 until 8:58, in no way Jesus say I am God, because if he to tell people he is God, THEN he was lying in what he said in verses before 8:58.
The problem here is that you're quoting scripture from newer versions of the bible.I came out of the kjv but you're trying to use other versions of the bible to prove your point.Trying to be slick I see..The newer versions of the bible are tampered with rearranging words that bring different meanings.They have added and taken away from the book which the bible says that if any man take and add from the book they shall be damned to the lake of fire.
Revelation 22:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Jesus says that no man has seen God at any time meaning they have never heard the father nor seen his shape.
John 5:37 King James Version (KJV)
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
So if it is written that no man has seen God then who was the God of the old testament that the children of Israel seen? it was JESUS..
Acts 7:38 King James Version (KJV)
38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
1 Corinthians 10:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
As far as the Quran it is a false book anyway because God did not give his word to the Arabs but to the children of Israel and the Quran even states that to be a prophet you must be from the seed of Jacob which Muhammad was not thus he did not hear from the God of Israel who is in fact Jesus.
Mr Black #12TribesAllNegroes
Even I use any Bible I get the same result, I can copy what I gave all over again with any version of the Bible. BUT WHAT BIBLE IS THE BEST and a COPY OF THE ORIGINAL SCRIPTURE. Let us ask this PhD American non-Muslim Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill says about the Bible he himself teaches for years czcams.com/video/pfheSAcCsrEt/video.htmltt
Faith alone is not enough. It is *_through_* faith that we realize we must make a decision: to obey God and seek to do His will, or else to remain separate from God and continue on our own path. It is faith that makes the choice real to us, then we must choose. The verses below feature obedience, not "faith alone":
"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17)
"In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ." (2 Thessalonians 1:8)
Abraham's example illustrates the difference between "faith alone" and faith followed by obedience. Abraham was promised blessings if he would leave home and journey to the promised land. Without any faith, he would have shrugged off the promises as unreal and that would have been the end of the story.
But even with faith Abraham could have said to himself, "Well, even though I trust God's promises I'd really rather stay home, in my comfort zone, so I'm not leaving." Would he have received the promised blessings? Of course not.
Abraham *_obeyed._* He acted on his faith. He left home, journeyed to the promised land and received the blessings:
"By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went" (Hebrews 11:8).
*_By_* or *_through_* faith he realized he had a real choice to make, and he *_chose to obey._* The Lord explained to Abraham's son Isaac that Abraham received the promised blessings because of his *_obedience:_*
"Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws" (Genesis 26:5).
The apostle James wrote "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and *_not by faith only"_* (James 2:24). Abraham's obedience was his "works." He *_believed_* in the true, complete sense of the word _believe:_ he committed himself, he *_acted_* on his faith. In the source New Testament Greek texts, "faith" and "believe" are different words; "faith" (pistis) is a noun, "believe" (pisteuō) is a verb.
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also" (James 2:26). Faith without commitment, without action, is useless. Nothing changes. If Abraham had stayed home, his faith would have been dead, useless. Abraham acted on his faith; his works, his obedience brought life and completion to his faith, making him a believer. James wrote:
"Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God." (James 2:22,23)
So what does God want us to do today? How do we believe, how do we "act" on our faith? God "now commands all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30). This is how we can receive mercy:
"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)
With the ransom Jesus made available on the cross, we can be redeemed from the death penalty (Romans 6:23) we have earned for our past sins. That redemption is mercy and is available by grace IF we'll choose to turn from sin, turn from sin that earned us the death penalty to begin with.
If we choose not to turn from sin, we'll remain unredeemed from the death penalty earned for our past sins and will surely perish in death for those sins. That's why Jesus warned, "except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:3,5).
At first glance "except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" appears to contradict John 3:16 which says we have to believe in Him: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
If "believeth" means no more than "have faith," or think something is true, then there certainly *_is_* a contradiction with "except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." But "believeth" goes beyond just "have faith." It is *_through_* faith that we realize we have a real choice to make: whether or not to believe, to commit ourselves and act and obey. We must truly "believe," we must act on our faith, obey and repent to avoid perishing.
The Bible Says
Well said. God bless you.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
@@tyronegooch5251 *_through_* faith . . . *_not_* by just *_having_* faith . . .
The scripture that states "We Are Saved By Grace Through Faith" has been taken out of context and it is now a huge satanic deception thereby preventing you from being saved according to scripture.
You need to know this before you can understand the scripture.
1. You need to know who is talking. - Paul is talking.
2. You need to know whom Paul is speaking. - He is talking to the church in Ephesians
Based on the above information why do you think that scripture applies to YOU?
3. Paul is talking to a specific group of people that are at one of the churches that Paul established.
4. You need to fully understand what Paul said about salvation.
5. Paul and all the members of the church (the body of Christ) are all baptized into Jesus Christ and filled with the Holy Ghost.
6. If you have been baptized into Jesus Christ and have received the Holy Ghost then you and ONLY you can apply that scripture which further explains your salvation.
Lets break it down.
Paul is saying to the people at the church in Ephesians - You and I are saved by the grace (love and kindness) of God. Because you all agreed to be baptized into Jesus Christ showing your faith and trust in Him.
Just look at the first verse in chapter two - Paul clearly identifies the people whom he is speaking.
Ephesians 2 (KJV)
2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
- To be quickened means to be made alive (converted) from death to life by the Holy Ghost. Even Jesus was quickened just before His resurrection. HAVE YOU BEEN QUICKENED? Jesus said the Holy ghost is the good seed of life - he also said if you have this seed then you are the children of the kingdom. NOTE: Jesus said these three words in regards to salvation and they all have a process to follow. Born again - Regenerated - Converted. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
What did Peter tell 5000 people what they must do to be right with God to enter God's kindom?
Acts 2:38 Peter told them to be baptized into Jesus Christ for remmision of sins and receive the Holy Ghost.(Born again - Regenerated - Converted). In verse 41 it says 3000 people were added to the church the body of Christ and kingdom bound.
Paul teaches the same message as the desciples and he established all the churches this way.
Do you want to be saved by God's grace? You may if your faith and trust in Him leads you to the waters of salvation.
NOTE: Of the five thousand people Peter preached to that day only three thousand got baptized and were saved. Read it.
Pastor Richard Jordan and many others have taken that chapter out of context and in doing so have lead millions into believing they are saved when they are not yet saved. This is what Satan has achieved through the twisting of scriptures.
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wilby1414 Paul said he came not to baptize but share the gospel
With all respect and love dear brothers and sisters:
I see many of you in today's world being deceived with the Bibles in your hands. (exactly like I was...)
If you go along with this false philosophy of "saved by faith trough grace" while ignoring the commandments you are doing a very big mistake. The faith will help you because based on it Jesus will forgive you when you fail 7x70times/day like He taught Peter... (that's the grace by faith that you and many of you misunderstood)
I'm not here to argue or win arguments!
I'm here to win you all over!
I'm here to worn you all, that if you don't humble and try to respect what the Bible truly says you will end up having Lord Jesus in your faces telling you:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’
Lawlessness = a state of disorder due to a disregard of the law. (you have the definition dear brothers)
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord," = not everyone that has faith.
"he who does the will of My Father" = that type of person that humbles himself to respect the law, the 10 commandments.
JESUS HIMSELF MAKES IT CLEAR HERE THAT THE LAW MUST BE RESPECTED!
Jesus Himself said he didn't come to brake the law but to fulfill it! THE LAW STILL APPLIES! Whether you like it or not...
For the last time: faith alone = not enough.
Bouns:
Revelation 14 New King James Version (KJV):
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and THE FAITH OF JESUS.
My job is done here! Amen! God Have mercy!
We are saved by grace through "the faith": that is, God's faith system. You eliminate repentance and baptism and you fail to be forgiven. Read Acts 2:38.
+Roger Leonard ,,,, But because of my faith in God , He has not only saved me but also cleansed my heart and forgiven me Read Acts 15:9 / 26:18
Jesus said, "he who believes and is baptized will be saved" in Mark 16:16. When one is baptized with a correct understanding (that salvation comes at the point of baptism into Christ's death; Cf, Romans 6:3, 4), then, and only then are they God's child. Christ's blood washes away our sins when we are baptized. (Acts 22:16) Baptism is not all there is to it, but these texts are undeniable that in demonstrating as to when one is saved from their past sins.
+Roger Leonard...But why Mark 16 :16 did not say the one who is not baptized will be damned also ?
Why do people reject the essentiality of baptism in man's salvation from sin? The problem is NOT baptism. Not really. It is because they deny the authority and Lordship of Jesus. Read Matt. 28:18, where Jesus said in His parting words: "All authority is given to Me in heaven and on earth." Then He said to His apostles, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." (v. 19). Now, by who's authority were the apostles to go, make disciples, and baptize? The Lord Jesus Christ's. Which of these commands could they refuse to obey and still be subject to His authority? None. Now, what did Jesus say to them according to Mark's account in Mk. 16:15-16? "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned." NASB
Now, the authority of Christ is here as well. The commands are also here. But Mark says something Matthew did not say. Jesus connects belief and baptism to salvation with the coordinating conjunction, "and". But people say, "Well, Jesus did not say, 'he that is baptized not shall be damned.'" Well, yes He did. How? When He connected both belief and baptism to salvation. And since He did so, it is logical to conclude that any person who denies the essentiality of baptism in the Lord's plan of salvation is an unbeliever! Why? They do so by undermining the Lord's words, and, therefore, His authority. How? Because they do not believe what Jesus said, and will be damned because of it! How do I know? Jesus said so.
the thief was not baptised.
Repentance (metanoia in greek) means to have a change of mind. According to Romans 2, gentiles were never given the law or gentiles were never guilty of seeking our own righteousnes Romans 10. The law was given to Isreal and isreal said it would be THEIR rightousness if the obeyed the law Deuteronomy 6. What were we (as gentiles) to repent of according to the scriptures?? Being dead in our sins and the uncircumcision of our (gentiles) flesh seperated us from God. Ephisians 2 says we were without hope, having no God in Ephisians 2. If gentiles were without God period, what do we repent (have a change of mind) about according to the scriptures???
Faith without work is dead - James 2:14
God did not wait to see my good works first before He saved me , for He had foreseen the kind of FAITH inside my heart would surely & immediately lead me to do good works and His will .
WOLFNBEAST a car without gas is still a car. if we r saved by faith then weather there's works or not our faith still saved us.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8,9 is not the plan of salvation. The Ephesians were not saved here. They were saved in Acts 19:1-6.
No one is saved until God comes! Grace is the facilitator to salvation! Faith is just belief. So grace the free gift gives us the opportunity at eternal life however we have to believe (faith) that God will do whatever He says He will do!
Once we believe then we have to do what God tells us to do.. like keeping his commandments, dietary laws and his feast days(works)
If not all we are doing is giving God lip service... We are saying...Thank you for the opportunity at eternal life (grace), yes God we believe you. (faith) but God what you are asking us to do is impossible so we cant do it( no works). The guestion then becomes if you believe why didnt you act?
Pauls writing presents works and faith together.
Should we make void the law so that grace may abound....God forbid!
It has always been about Faith and works from the beginning. Example:
The children of Israel were told to put blood on their door post so the angel of death would spare their houses in Egypt.
They had faith...they believed God. They also had works...they put the blood on the door. Their faith and works saved them. Had they not done so their firstborn would also have been kilked. The angel of death was not looking for Israelites..he was looking for the blood on the doors.
Any pastor, teacher or friend who teachers you that you can just believe and not do what God tells you to do is a liar and will lead you to the lake of fire.
Only with God we choose to believe this fairy tale that we can say we believe and do nothing.
People like to believe that somehow is so benevolent that he will accept anything from us..So not true!
In everything God says there is always an IF.
God is a God of contracts.
Here is the cobtract we have been given to obtain eternal life........
So IF you believe that I am Christ, the only begotten son of God, the lamb slain from the foundation of the world for your sins and accept the free gift of grace that I have given you...repent and be baptized in my name, obey and keep my commandments, my feast days and my dietary laws then I will give you eternal life when I come.
justmyopinion TV Wrong..
m Du The fact that you think the bible is wrong means you lack understanding. Please I beg you read your bible dont just read one verse and listen go your pastor.
Read the bible according to Isaiah 28vs 10 and you will have better understanding.
Eph 2:8-9 never says faith only the only time faith only is in the bible is in James 2:24 that says not faith only yes we are saved by grace by faith but not only grace by faith just like we haft to confetti Christ rom :10:9 to be saved but not confetti only not belief only not even baptizem only we haft to have all that stuff to be saved
The plan to be saved You must hear rom 10:17 so then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God so are faith in God comes by hearing and faith means belief so that comes to are next thing we Ned that is to believe John 3:16 for God so loved the world so that whoever beliefs in hime shud not parish but have etrno life so we must believe and wen we believe we repent acts 2:38 Luke 13:4 we must repent or parish and we haft to confetti christ rom 10:9 and then we must be baptized acts 2:38 gal 3:27 mark 16:16 acts 22:16 1 Peter 3:21 and baptizem hast to be by being buried in water col 2:12 rom 6:4-6 get saved
The new testament conflicts the covenant with Christ and our Heavenly Father sent prophets and there purposes like Moses was in direct contact with Our Heavenly Father and delivered him out of Eygpt and wrote the commandments with his own hands and Jesus Christ came to fullfill the laws of Moses with his covenant of obedience and reconciliation with repentance to receive his covenant.
I'm just saying that what was prescribed before the new testament.
Grace alone is not in the Bible go to ephesians 2:8,9 then read 10. Line 8, 9 tells you your own ideas as work wont get you there but line 10 tells you that you are to walk in the works of Yeshua. So Grace + the works of Christ Jesus.
Yes, we are not saved by works of righteousness, but that refers to the law of Moses. We are not bound to that old covenant anymore, but there are definite requirements for new testament believers beyond just receiving Jesus as your Lord and Savior. You can't read the new testament and not come away with the knowledge that God requires far more than this message title implies.
+Donna Morrow If you are a learned Catholic , tell me what is your answer to the most asked question , " What must I do to be saved " ?
+BLUEBIRD
When Paul writes, "faith", he means faith in Jesus as the Redeemer (cf.. Rom. 3: 24-25; Gal. 3:13). Before the time of Christ, all Jews believed that full salvation is possible only through the law of the old covenant and affiliation to Israel. Suddenly comes Redeemer and preaches a doctrine that salvation is possible only through Him. Through faith in His redemption, resulting in renewed by His Spirit that helps to be obey the New Covenant, while the old covenant God has made obsolete (Hebrews 8:13). The Jews therefore have a choice: justification is in the Old Testament (the old law), or by faith in Jesus, the New Covenant? If the old, then redemptive role of Christ is excluded (cf. Gal. 5: 2,4). With this only rebuttal Paul. He teaches that justification is by faith in the redemption (acting through love: Gal. 5: 6; 1 Tim. 5: 8; 6: 18-19), and not by works (the previous, already inactive Covenant in which some preferred to seek salvation instead of the Redeemer and the New Covenant - it was an expression of disbelief). So Paul did not fight with good works of the New Covenant, because these don't compete with faith. Paul does not condemn one who seeks immortality in good works (Rom. 2: 6-10) fulfilled in the faith and in the fear of losing salvation (Philippians 2:12). Not only does not condemn, but teaches that if believer refrain from good works, is denying the faith and God (1 Tim. 5: 8; Tit. 1:16). Paul says that by good works believers lay hold on eternal life": "Let them do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to give, willing to share, storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life" (1 Tim. 6:18 -19, KJV). Because even though Christians were conditionally saved, they have to retain salvation in order to be saved in the sense of immortality in the Kingdom of God: "Watch yourself and science continue in this, because it's doing, and himself for salvation, and those who hear you" (1 Tim. 4:16).
Works of the New Covenant are linked to the sacrifice of Jesus, because Jesus died to create for himself a people zealous for good works (Eph. 2:10; Tit. 2:14). This is the meaning and purpose of Jesus' sacrifice. Not after it made a sacrifice to have any people, but in order to have people eagerly progressing in love. Others remain in the death (1 J. 3: 14,17-18). If we are zealous for good works, it means that sacrifice of Jesus was not in vain in relation to us. In this way the works of faith and love are linked to the sacrifice of Jesus and are a condition of using this sacrifice. And whether the same can be said about works of the old covenant (commandments that Jesus did not include the new covenant, like circumcision)? Do we read somewhere that Jesus made a sacrifice to make for himself a people zealous in circumcision, in handling Sabbaths and Jewish holidays, in observance of kosher foods? Do we read somewhere that meeting these works is the commandment of the New Covenant, and that it is a condition of your use of the sacrifice of Jesus? No. Therefore works of the old convenant are not linked to the sacrifice of Jesus, and look at them salvation is an expression of contempt for the sacrifice of Jesus, an expression of disbelief in the foundation of the New Covenant. It is this search of salvation apart from Jesus' sacrifice, by works not related to the sacrifice, not aided by the Spirit Paraclete - the only works. It is not surprising that Paul fiercely opposed the search for salvation in such works. But he never fought against the necessity to conduct in love, in good works, when one is a believer in the Redeemer.
We are not saved by works, but by the sacrifice of Jesus, because through the sacrifice of Jesus have been reborn (irrespective of their earlier works), and by the sacrifice we are forgiven mistakes that we still do happen. The thing is that the sacrifice does not include those who, after believing, of their own volition live in sin (Heb. 10:26), and sin is too failure works of love (James 4:17). So after the rebirth works of faith and of love are God's condition for continued use of the sacrifice of Jesus. The sacrifice still includes believer if he does this. If not, if he refrains from works of faith and of love, he must first be converted to good conduct. "But shewed (...) that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance" - said Paul (Acts. 26:20). So sacrifice of Jesus does not include believers who by works deny faith and God (1 Tim. 5: 8; Tit. 1:16), it means that by the evil deeds and omissions believers can lose salvation. Because salvation is through this sacrifice - conditioned by efforts at works of faith and of love. So although it is true that salvation is not obtained by works, but by faith, it is equally true that by the works and omissions believers can deny faith and thereby lose salvation. These two things are compatible. Meanwhile, some people take the first truth to overthrow the other. About such people the apostle Peter wrote, "in which [Paul's letters] are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness" (2Pt 3:16-17).
jaf
Your hokus pokus are too long . Read Acts 16:30,31
Paul says clearly that by evil works believer deny faith and deny God:
"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." (1Tm 5:8)
"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate." (Tit. 1:16)
So someone can have true faith, and then lose it because he chooses sin. God has given us Freedom of Choice. We are not a robots.
Will be saved from hell believer who later deny his faith i deny God? How, if salvation is by faith and he in evil works deny the faith?
+jaf
Is it possible for a very repentant man who is loved , forgiven and saved by God [ by faith ] not to do good works ?
We are saved by grace through faith. Faith is the means to enter into the grace of God. Romans.5:2 Sin can separate you from God if not repented of. Romans 6:16 Hebrews 3:12..salvation is the gift of God . Eph.2 :8,9,10 and we are his handy work. We are to continue to walk in the grace of God and not to be moved away from the hope of the gospel. Col.1:21-23. Faith can be made shipwrecked 1 Tim.1:19 and we are warned of those in the last days will depart from the faith. 1 Tim.4:1 The gift of salvation can be lost as in the case of Hymenaeus and Alexander 1 Tim.1:20 The prodical son who left his fathers house was lost and when he returned the father said this my son was dead and is alive AGAIN. LUKE. 16:24 You don't mention repentance as though it is not necessary for real faith? There is no real faith without repentance. And that repentance is not a one time never-again-needed. By the way there is no one called pastor in the New Testament. Not one verse that anyone is called Pastor! Eph.4:11 are gifts and shepherd is a verb not a noun. There are only plural elders of the church singular. Acts14:23..Paul called for the Elders of the church of Ephesus..Acts20:17 Stop being addressed as pastor.
+Tim Germain Are you saved or are you sure you will go to Heaven if you die any moment now ? If you are unsure or your answer is negative , then what is your purpose in wasting your time here to talk about salvation ?
The danger that you just don't wish to acknowledge is you salvation is by grace through faith. One must continue in the faith grounded and settles and not be moved away from the hope of the gospel. Colossians 2:23. You seem to present a gospel that a disciple can never fall way? Hebrews 3:12-14 CLEARLY the bible teaches you can harden your heart through sin and FALL FROM GRACE. Galatians 5:1-4 Any one who teaches salvation CAN NOT be lost is a FALSE TEACHER.
As far as heaven is concerned. Jesus did not come to bring us to heaven. No where do you find those words in the bible. I challenge you to give a verse that says Jesus came to bring to heaven. The bible teaches that Christ came into the world save us from sin and reconcile us to God. The RESULT is we will be IN HIS KINGDOM now here on the earth and that in the FUTURE when he returns we will rule and reign with him here on the earth. The new Jerusalem in heaven will be part of the kingdom message where he said I go to prepare a place for you. John 14:2,3
+Tim Germain ....You touched on false teacher , how about your false prophets or leaders who prophesied on the end of world three times but never came to pass ?
Do know what you are talking about???
christianity is a drug
Perhaps you are a drug addict !
Google "Salvation by faith alone and Eternal Security refuted by Scripture. The Bible Is CLEAR that Sola Fide is wrong. I've read it all & know. Those teaching Sola Fide quote it out of context. I've read their arguments. Richard Jordan never read The Parable of the sower, for example.
Search for 23 salvation verses that teach one requirement in common to be saved - and that is , FAITH , FAITH , FAITH and nothing but FAITH , FAITH , FAITH .
Jesus is not the savior of all men, only the israelites
+anthony woodson
Your understanding of the bible is limited only to one verse , so you better stay home & sleep .