4 Mods to Level Up Your GMMK Pro | Before vs After Sound Test!
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Thanks for the patience! Originally wanted to make this my first voiceover video to go over each mod in detail, but work is ramping up like crazy that I had to settle for a quick overview instead.
Specs were kept the same between before and after to provide a more accurate comparison!
- Provided plate and Case foams were used.
- Lubed milky gat yellows (205g0)
- Aliexpress PBT Metropolis clone keycaps
- "Before" stabs: Stock GOAT / "After" stabs: Durock V2s
- "Before" plate: Stock Aluminum / "After" plate: Glorious PC Plate
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0:00 Intro
0:35 Disassembling
2:15 Mod#1: Standoff Removal
3:50 Mod#2: Stabilizer Upgrade
5:51 Mod#3: PC Plate
7:10 Mod#4: Gasket Upgrade
9:06 Assembling
10:50 After mods full sound test
12:23 Back-to-back sound tests between Before vs After - Věda a technologie
I'm definitely going to be using the gasket upgrade!
Loved the intro of your recent voice65 video! Thanks for stopping by :)
i wonder if the gasket upgrade will work on other budget and midrange gasket mount boards like the kbd67lite
Your intros are top tier Hamaji Neo
does it still bend the pcb?
@@arc11honist , tbh, this pcb bends itself if you're using polycarb plate. ever so slightly, but not enough to notice.
Just wanted to give you a shout out. Your video was such a blessing and help when building my gmmk pro. Your mods has made this whole process worthwhile. Looking forward to more content!
I was so happy that I also got a PC plate when I saw that you used one :D gonna get to modding my GMMK Pro soon aswell :) great video!
Great vid! Gonna come back to this when my board comes in!
Aaaah So clean! Fantastic build once again Jaeyou😄
Haha I can’t take too much credit as I am only modding a prebuilt in this one. Thank you though Greg!
This is so helpful, thank you so much for uploading! Subbed:)
Thanks for subbing! I am so glad I could help :)
This video was so good to watch since I’m about to build a GMMK pro and use same plate. Awesome video thanks for breaking it down well
I love your videos, so peaceful and incredible!
Very nice, the mods did wonders! And speaking of the d65, kbd just restocked. I know it's not a direct comparison, but you would recommend the gmmk pro over the d65? Purely on sound and typing feel (as I don't really mind either form factor)
The video I’ve been lookin for for a long time! Ty
haha thanks for watching!
THANK YOU SO SO SO SOOOOO MUCH! THIS REALLY HELPED A LOT ESPECIALLY WITH MY STAB PROBS! Ordered durock v2’s after this video
Glad I can help! thanks for watching :)
Man, I got the gateron black ink v2 stabs and durock v2 stabs at the same time. Put the lubed durocks on for a while, then changed over to the black ink v2 stabs - I really like the black inks tbh. Idk what it is, but the sound is a bit more thocky. Not a lot more, but it's there. Balanced the wires on each and the black inks barely needed any balancing Co pared to the durocks also.
Liked and subscribed. I plan to do these upgrades (sticking to Aura Keycaps and Gat Black v2s as my only variation) as soon as my GMMK Pro. That you for this video. I will have it on as I make this my first build.
thank you for your support! Hope your build goes well :)
Great job! I tried creating a different type of gasket with silicone! Mods do this board justice.
Hi! I've been looking for a few weeks how to get started with the first mechanical custom. After seeing your video I had no more doubts: I want it the same as yours! Really beautiful ... in the next days I get the pieces! Grande!!!
Great looking board, and the sounds are fantastic!
I got mine with the brass plate, and so far I love it. The only complaints I have are that the stabs, even when taken care of a bit, still aren't great, and that the cable that plugs into the PCB in the bottom doesn't line up very well when you're trying to put the board back together so it gets pinched if you aren't careful.
just swap it out for some durocks and you are good to go
Great video! Will definitely try the gasket swap on mine :)
I just reserved my GMMK Pro and the PC Plate isn't in stock ATM, but I will be doing EXACTLY all of these mods as well. Great to hear the difference and know that my plan will provide my desired result!! Keep making great vidz. I am now a subscriber.
Glad I can help Tim! Hope your build goes well :)
@@JaeyouPark Glorious only just got the stock in on my reservation, so I should have the board in about a week. Can't wait to get to this stuff. BTW, I had to wait for the PC plate to be in stock, but I was able to get that weeks ago and have it ready for when the GMMK Pro is delivered.
@@JaeyouPark It took a little longer than a week to arrive, but I now have it and applied the mods. A couple things: The version I was sent actually already has pads under the stock stabs. Also, the stabs were *heavily* lubed! To the point that the spacebar wouldn't work properly. I had to take them off anyway to clean them and relube them, and that's when I noticed the pads under the stabs as stock now. Also, I purchased new PCB and case foam from StupidFish (stupidfish.design/products/gmmk-pro-case-and-plate-foam) in the 3mm size (the case foam is 2mm and has cutouts for the hotswap sockets). I feel like this foam is an additional upgrade from the stock. Finally, I am using the GMK Godspeed Apollo keycaps set and loving the build. Thanks again for posting these mods!
Thanks for sharing the mods! I did the PC plate, standoff removal, and stabilizer upgrades to Durock V2s. I also removed the case and plate foam.
I didn’t have D65 gaskets, so I went with a triple layer of stock gaskets on the bottom case, removed the diffusers, removed the PCB screws, and only used 4 case screws, lightly screwed in.
Still a bit muted with linears but the added sound and flex is there, if not a bit unstable.
Do the D65 gaskets provide a deeper sound over the stock gaskets or is it just mostly for the flex and feel?
Wow! Definitely made the switches sound much deeper after those mods. I cancelled my reservation after hearing about the ineffective gaskets and how the board kind of nulls a lot of switch sound. Might have to reconsider after hearing your mods.
Oh man I got mine a few days ago and the first thing I did was take it apart about put some lubed Gat black ink v2 stabs in there - but the first thing I noticed was how good the pads still were. I had I only seen videos about how gnarly they are when you open the board up - now they include a big bag of gaskets also. And a big bag of screws. Little off topic, but I didnt strip any screws with a size 0/00 PH. PH1 seemed a little big contrary to everyone's suggestions. It may just be ifixit in particular though.
Good stuff, man! Can't wait to hear your first voice over video too!
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At this rate it might have to be Q4 haha, realllllly trying to set up a proper set up before I dive in to voiceovers and streams! Thanks for the support as always though :)
@@JaeyouPark ay you got it bro! But i totally get where you're coming from haha, I wish I researched more about EQ before doing voiceovers, my first few were rough lmao
@@AnzelLmao I might have to bug you for some tips when the time comes ;) if you’re on discord, would love for you to join the community! Lots of good questions being asked, and your knowledge would be an amazing resource.
@@JaeyouPark count me in!!! Although I'll admit I'm no expert on audio, I just have knowledgeable buddies that help out and too many videography channels I'm subbed to LOL
Not to be picky, but for the before and after side by side, is the mic closer on the before shots? If so wouldn't that be an unfair comparison? Either way thanks for the video. Will likely reference this for future upgrades. If you had to pick one or two of these mods which do you think were the most impactful?
This makes me wanna pick one up! Loved the adding gaskets, board sounds great
Still a little muted to me, but you can’t really ask for much better at $170.
The original bottom gaskets was compressed below the alu lip around them haha so wasn't doing anything! I gotta say, the knob feels 12/10 premium :)
@@lilrowbear mute is better than pingy and hollowness , dont too picky nothing is perfect
@@lilrowbear which is better with a knob my lk67 sounds better
nice video! :)
What kind of dampeners did you use under your stabilizers?
really like the sound :)
I didn't add any screws back in other than the diffuser screws and it gave a keyboard a nice bounce with the poly plate and no pcb or case foam. Worth a try if you dont mind the tedious amount of work it is to take this dang board apart. Great video as always though! That keycap set goes so nice with this board.
That would be a good way as well! Might have to open this baby back up some day...
what screwdriver head size did you use? I have some difficulties in removing the screws
Niceee! Did you screw the PCB screws back? What does removing the standoffs do?
Imma have to try this, but with doubling the gaskets using the spare from the box. I don’t have a d65 gasket to use lol.
love what your doing here ❤ glad I found your videos....may I know what keycaps are those ?
Just finished my GMMK Pro build with Ink Black V2 and Durock V2 Stablisiers. It's an awesome keyboard and at a great price. Some work needs put in from factory, but it's great. I like it a lot
What kepcaps do you have? They're awesome.
Were you able to get the Durock stabs to work clean with the PC plate? Seems that there is not optimal clearance from the PC plate to the stab wires with everywhere I am looking.
Can i cut off the parts on the plate that wraps around the pcb to give it more flex? just curious if the material is easy to cut off to provide more flexibility
Hi sorry I couldn't really tell from the video but where did you put the d65 gaskets on? 2 on the sides under the pcb and the rest on top of the existing gaskets?
I just ordered this and bought the Everclear Aqua King switches but I heard the stabs are horrible.. would you recommend the Durock Stabs or something else?
Hello! The way I see it in the video, What screws did you install in the PC Plate and PCB assembly?
Did I misunderstand or did you add gaskets on the board and the bottom of the pcb?
Very nice. Will try the gasket upgrade on mine. Swapped my stabs out for durock V2's and removed the case foam so far. Running everglide aqua/water king switches which are buttery smooth. Debating removing the PCB foam as I do find the whole setup mutes the thock more than I'd like. More thock the better.
I've also swapped to Durock v2s, holee modded and lubes and installed Aqua King switches (also lubed). I've also installed the aftermarket FR4 plate and removed the plate foam, but installed a thin layer of PE foam over the PCB, instead (it goes between the PCB and the plate, so it sits under the switches). Nice and thoccy now. I have the Stupidfish 3mm foam on the way, so I'll replace the case foam with that to see if it's better.
So to do the gasket upgrade do you just replace ALL of the gaskets or just the ones on the bottom half of the case
this sound... omg... saving this video for my build.
thank you! best of luck with your build :)
I love the PC plate, but man it warps the PCB so bad. Great video!
I finished building mine today and added tape mod and I can't believe how big of a difference it made
did your board bow like crazy with the pc plate on it? im worried to even use it. Idk if its the durock stabs or the plate itself
great video as always
thank you Hai!
I don't get the gasket upgrade mod. is it bad to have a fimr board? it is a matter of preference or that flex bring some improvements? Quite new in the game, tbh not quite sure about the benefitx of the gasket mount iteself
Hey sorry I’m quite the novice at keyboards but I was wondering what it was that made your space bar sound so much better afterwards? is it the stabilizers?
Damn how does your space bar sound so good? Mind sounds quite hollow, though I am rocking the aluminum plate for now. Wonder if the PC plate really makes all big of difference. Do you have any space bar foam by any chance?
How were you able to take out the screws? Mines don’t come out that easily and end up just kind of sliding around as I add in my magnetic screwdriver
Does the thicker gasket actually work? Logically I would assume that as the case and top plate are sooo tight together any gasket you put in there is going to be squeezed to a completely flat hard state…
The RGB difference between the Alu and PC plate is really quite noticable, I imagine the underglow would be quite uniform in dark conditions with the PC plate
i have the exact same build except my plate is making the space bar stuck (it doesnt go back up)
ami doing something wrong?
Can i ask what what is the name of white thing you apply on PCB and under stab and purpose of it ?
Finally got mine, back to use the gasket upgrade.
Very nice video, going to cop your build!
Do you have the name of the vendor for the Metropolis set? Not sure what which one you bought from!
What is the cushion you placed under the stabilizer? Thanks.
How you use gmmk pro with macbook? How you press option and command button on it ? Is win bottun works as command and alt as option? Thanks!
What stabilizer pads are those that you placed on the pcb? I have been trying to find those but havent had much luck.
They are actually just precut doublesided tapes for photo hanging lol and I just use the leftover parts of the deskeys gasket films as the foam portion!
You also earned another subscriber!!
Thanks for the sub! 💛
So you basically changed all the default gaskets into D65 gaskets? Am I correct?
how different was the typing experience using the PC plate vs the stock ALU? interested in getting a PC plate for mine!
The pc plate makes the sound a bit louder and less high pitched due to it being softer personally i prefer alu over pc and brass
If I were you, I would personally get a fr4 plate from AXCworks since the polycarbonate will bend your pcb.
Are you using macos? How did you map the cmd fn keys and knobs?
im worried because i ordered the flex batch of the gmmk pro but I also ordered durock v2 stabs and I've heard from some people that the included allu plate is a really tight fit or it wont fit at all .
Is it worth doing burger mod on the screws with a PC plate?
Hello sir, does the durock v2 perfectly fit in PC plate?
How easy did the PC plate fit over the durock stabs? did it require any filing/trimming? Love the vid :)
When I did this I had to file both the standard alu plate and pc plate to fit durock v2's.
arent durock v2 stabs not compatible with the gmmk pro??
could i ask what blue mat you're using for your desk mat?
also, how are the screws? are they solid? saw a few videos saying the screws are prone to breaking/snapping
nvm just saw you listed the deskmat in the descriptions!
i couldnt quite see what was happening in the first one? what were you doing?
can you buy any keycaps for the gmmk pro?
Where can i get new gaskets? can i find good ones on amazon? (It needs to ship to Colombia)
Is there any other way to get the gaskets without buying another board?
what is that tape u used for the stabs?????
From what I have experienced, the typing experience overall is wholly improved after changing from the PC plate to the Aluminium plate with the gasket mod. This is because the PC plate has issues with bowing and the consistency around the board is way off all over the place. Sure it does sound better, but only in the middle. The outer keys sound much higher pitched than the middle and it ruins the entire experience. Of course, this is all corrected with the aluminium plate. This should also apply to the brass plate, too. I will however, try to sand down the stab holes on the PC plate to give them space to move around which might help. Stock PC plate is a huge no no for me at the moment.
I am going to attempt a new type of gasket mod which I will update you here in the near future. I have applied a similar mod in another type of enclosure (nothing to do with keyboards and on a much larger scale) in the past with huge success. If I could apply it on a smaller scale, the result should be the same. If the mod proves to be successful, I will update you here. Back off, man. I'm a scientist.
So, did it work?
can you possibly provide a link to the exact Keycap set please? I would really like to purchase it!
What company is the coiled cable from?
Great video. Next time, try to use timelapse videos to show you insert the switches and other build stuff related. Take care!
What would you recommend for gasket upgrade as I don’t wanna pay for kbdfans shipping for d65 gaskets
What were the pads he put under the new stabs?
Off topic but what are you using to film? Looks incredible
thanks so much! My main set ups is the sony a6400 + sigma 30mm f1.4 :)
Thank god you didn’t put painters tape on the PCB, I just replaced my stabilizers and put in some sea salt silent switches and it sounds amazing just after those two changes
I use the PC plate and replaced stabs with Durock V2's. I left the foam and standoffs but I was going to take it apart at some point and try removing those as its still stiff (but sounds much better).
just remove all the gasket and it will become more stiff , which is very good for me i love stiff typing feel
where can i get the gasket foam?
what keycaps are these?
Can someone fill me in, newbie here. What is the purpose of removing the stand-offs?
i mean is the board decent as is...seems like a ton of work. little overwhelming..... my hands are not very stable either due to medical issuies... i daily drive the Drop CTRL and just got my GMMK pro with pandas and GMK Laser keycaps.... didnt realize the stabs were screw in so upgrading has been less of an option for me
the amazon links dont work :/
what kind of tape or materials did you use under the stabilizers?
Wondering the same thing
What keycaps is that?
@8:30 I didn't know that you're a magician... the gasket has suddenly gone... wow
was the stuff you added under the stabs double sided tape + shelf-liner on top?
doublesided tape + leftover pieces of the deskeys gasket film!
How much does the gasket upgrade reduce the stiffness of the board? Is it a very noticeable difference?
To be honest, it's a marginal difference. Don't expect much flex on this board even after the upgrade, it just gives you a slightly softer bottom-out experience.
I'm curious to know how the typing experience changed after adding the d65 gaskets. Did they help make for a softer typing feel?
To be completely honest, the gaskets help marginally with the over sound/feel. I think PC Plate actually had a bigger impact on the typing feel as the bottom out feel is much more pleasant.
As im watching this and needed to replace my gaskets on my board and they didnt sound the best but gladly glorious has replacements you can buy -
Gmmk pro build
Polycarbonate plate
Akko cream blues - will upgrade to the new ones
a nice thick foam pad inside
3 layers of tape with even a pe foam from stupid fish foam
and eventually going To get the stupid fish foam plate replacement soon also Durock v2 stabs 👌
What keycaps are beautiful?
Very cool! I've got a GMMK Pro on its way so I'm excited to start tinkering with it. I don't have a whole lot of money so I'll have to do these upgrades slowly. if you were to rank the upgrades from most impactful to least impactful, how might that list look?
I wouldn't try to speak for @Jaeyou Park, but I bet if you did nothing more than buy/add the Polycarbonate Plate and lube/band-aid mod the stabilizers, that would get you most of the way there. Also, not sure what switches you went with, but the Glorious Pandas (what I bought for it) are NOT lubed from the factory. So lube those too. You can get a tube of Super Lube on Amazon for $3 that will make a huge difference (if you are trying to stay on the cheap).
Hey congrats on your purchase! I would probably rank Stabs upgrade/tuning>PC Plate/standoff removal>Gasket upgrade. Definitely would recommend lubing your switches as well as it makes a noticeable difference as well!
@@JaeyouPark I'm glad you commented here. I didn't realize you fully removed the standoffs, but that TOTALLY makes sense. LOL. More flex and thock
Thanks to both of ya'll! Yeah, money's tight with covid going on so it was hard to justify buying the barebones board alone. I'll snag some cheap lube and see if I can grab that PC plate as well. Thanks again :)
@@peetzaBoy this is certainly NOT what enthusiasts would recommend, but I know from personal experience that it absolutely works to lube switches and make them sound thockier. www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-51010-Oil/dp/B000BXOGHY/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=super+lube&qid=1620063898&sr=8-10
Great tutorial and advice! I'm thinking of shaving off the plate screw tabs to see if that helps to improve the gmmk feel. Let's hope it works lol
Haha please let me know how it goes! Maybe I will open this up again to do your tab removal mod...
what if you replace the bottom case screws with slightly longer ones so that when you screw it together, the plate and PCB doesn't press as hard against the gasket?
@@justplainlawr I think ultimately, I might end up filing down the lower case to increase the space for a thicker gasket to fit. I feel like the tolerance is too tight and it's squeezing the poor and already super thin gasket way too tight... kind of defeats the gasket mount.
@@Keybored that’s a good idea! Looking forward to your mod video, I used your foam tape mod to help with my GMMK.
@@Keybored oooh interesting! Looking forward to your mod video when it drops!
link for the keycaps ?
does it actually sounds this good, or is the mic to blame
Bro i just wonder did the durock v2 stabs fit perfectly when you installed the plate? Since i’ve watched several videos stating that durock v2 wont fit into the gmmk pro plate. Nice mod btw!
It doesn't fit with the aluminum plate but works fine with the PC. They have since made a V2 of the aluminum plate that fixed this.
Duddeee,, those keycapsy can yoi get the same ones, but double shot so the letters are tranasparent like normal keyboards
What does the Standoff Removal mod do?
Can you please tell me which is better to choose Varmilo MA87 or Glorious GMMK PRO? Thank you !
I own both. Varmilo is a fully assembled keyboard that needs no modding or tuning out of the box, excellent stabs, thick keys, beautiful colourways, great typing feel and sounds, but it’s not hot swappable so you can’t swap switches easily (although different switch versions are sold), no RGB (only white LED illumination), not programmable in software and there’s no rotary knob. It’s basic, but looks great, feels great and does what it sets out to do really really well.
GMMK Pro is a kit which offers a lot more customisation opportunities, though it needs assembly and some tuning/modding to achieve a really good result, but it’s much more flexible. It has some flaws (bad tolerances on the polycarbonate plate, flimsy and an annoyingly large number of screws, fiddly to assemble and disassemble), but is good value at this price range if you want to build your own board