Almost whole of Serbia was liberated in 1941. by joint effort of partizans and chetniks. They fought together, because both were serbs, from same towns, same families even, and results were good, but very soon it became obvious political differences between leaders are too big and they started fighting each other, splitting serbian antifascist movement and bringing great misery to our people.
You cant make program to call someone serb, its ethnicity. Serbs are people, not a nation. Its origin, and blood, a tribe, dont know if you understand. You are Serb if your parents, grandparents etc are Serbs, you cant 'become' Serb. My ancestors on mother's side are bosnian Serbs, and they never considered themselves anything else but Serbs, as long as memory goes. Names and surnames of ancestors show that too.
I just told you in autumn of 1941 whole serbia was liberated from germans, except for major towns with large german garrisons. That includes dozens of battles fought equaly by chetniks and partizans.
this is unbelievably inaccurate, the chetniks were rarely the main attacking force and nor did they fight on horseback. They also rarely fought on this mostly flat set terrain but were conceived in the mountains and resorted to guerrilla tactics
@@renzoV33333 I don’t need to be an army veteran to know how the Chetniks typically fought, and what happened at Neretva. Just by taking a quick look at the casualties list you can see that the Partisans had around 4-5 times the Axis-Chetnik casualties, thus the movie totally misrepresents reality.
Largest fight was for town of Loznica on August 31st 1941, which was liberated by partizans and chetniks together. Other big cooperation was attack on Sabac 22-24th september. These were not major battles, but there were many, it was national uprising and guerilla fighting in which most of Serbia was liberated only few months after german occupation of Yugoslavia.
@Ž Š Užice was surrended by Germans to Chetniks of Kosta Milovanović Pećanac(German allies and enemies of Mihailović's chetniks) and then surrended to partisans by chetniks of Kosta Milovanović Pećanac without any kind of fight. When we talk about Battle of Neretva both (Chetniks and Partisans) had moments of tactical cooperations with Axis, everyone did it in different phases of battle. The main difference is the thing that Chetniks cooperation has been more like military cooperation and Partisans cooperation has been more like political cooperation.
@Ž Š That is exactly the case you mentioned now and I mentioned in my previous comment when we talk about partisans political cooperation. Of course that is not cooperation based on ideology but that cooperation came from tactical needness. Both (Germany and Croats on the one side and Partisans on the other side) had feared by possible allies landing, everyone because of their own interests and they had chetniks as a common enemies. It is the case known in history as the March negotiations. That happened during the Battle of Neretva or during The Fourth Enemy Offensssive(operation named like that in Socialistic Yugoslavia) or Operation Weiss(That is how Germans called that operation).
Given your name, I assume you know "Spremte se spremte četnici", so the one you are probably asking about goes like this "Telefonske žice zuje, Kralj nam Petar poručuje, Neretva će ovih dana, bit grobnica partizana. Partizani crni vrani, Dani su vam odbrojani!", but I don't know its name or if it even has one... Either way, it turns out they were wrong, as Neretva became "grobnica" of Chetniks instead.
Actually thats not true. That goes only for croats, who started claiming all catholics are croats somewhere arround 1901, after great bishop conference and actions of pope Leo XIII. Serbian nationality and identity was already well formed long before that. At times of serbian uprisal against Turks in 1801, bosnian Serbs call themself serbs, and supported uprisal, and same was with prior rebelions in Montenegro/Herzegovina. Bosnian 'identity' is local, geographical, and not ethnical.
Nope. There is a problem here. You have to understand one thing here. Serbian and Croatian history is divided. We Croats are Catholics, Serbs are Orthodox. But, we are one. We speak the same language. On their Eastern side, they had their freedom, we were still under Austrian-Hungarian slavery. Finally, after the First World War finished, we could be together. It was because our Serbian bros won that war. Austrians made us Croats fight against them. Finally, in the Second World War, we fought side by side. We won. Never a Croat was better just when he fought with a Serb by his side. When we Croats and Serbs fight together, we are a deadly combination. We go to hell and back. And that was our Yugoslav anthem. Neće nas pakao smest. The hell will not take us away.
@@MladenPostruznik i am over 50 years old so i learn in school that austria was jailor of all slavic people who lived in empire and kingdom. today i think this was over simplified and unilateral view. you have lot of slavic people who made big carriers in military like Borojević (orthodox) and Njegovan in navy. and the main reason for assassination of Ferdinand in Sarajevo was his willingness to reform austro-hungary in some kind of federation of states which would give slavic people and others more autonomy.
nationalist croats and serbs during yugoslavia both did not recognize bosnians as a seperate ethnic group even though we wanted to and macedonians and montenegrins both of which never had their own historical state did become regocnized. Macedonians are more serb then bosnians are. Bosnia had its own alaphabet and culture (STECAKS for example) We even had a bosnian dictionary since 1636, 200 years b4 vuk karadizic's dictionary. His words in the dictionary sound more bosnian then serbian
yeah they did kill innocent people my grandparents were from eastern bosnia and during ww2 they had to move north cuz chetniks were killing muslim and catholics. maybe it wasnt Draza but people under his command did and again it happend in the war and again serbs are denying it
People in my village in Serbia the whole time thought that partisans, that were later announced as heroes were killed by the same DM chetniks, when they were actually killed by Serbian fascist under nazi command. I later checked the facts in wikipedia. So, this is just an example that people actually have no idea who were the killers. Since, chetniks were Kingdom of Serbia and later Yugoslavia special forces, that term was very popular back in the day. In Serbia alone, there were 12 groups that called themselves chetniks, but only JVuO chetniks were portrayed in all the movies as killers and fascists, when in fact the truth was quite opposite. And that's a problem. People who really fought for their country were made into war criminals. Their families can't even receive medals of honor for their bravery in public because a huge number of people still believes communist movies propafanda.
@Daniel K You are a fool for responding to the wrong comment. Did you even read my comment and do you even understand English or you just randomly call people names for no reason? People like you give DM Chetnicks a bad name.
@Daniel K Well, obviously there's something wrong with your perception. 🤔 as you are atacking the wrong commentator and wrong comment. I never said they're fascists.
@@Monnah Chetniks weren't fascits, that's true, but they were fascists servants. They were "useful idiots" for Germans. Not all of them, of course, but that was their result at the end of the war.
The 500 pilots btw were rescued by rouge Chetniks who stayed as a third faction. This group was really small and was mainly made up of Montenegrin Chetniks. Bosnia never officially existed before the Yugoslavian Republic and was always considered a part of Croatia. Macedonia has its own separate culture. What you're saying really is that Ukraine belongs to Russia or Poland and Austria belongs to Germany. All the prove about Chetnik Nazis is just type it up and it will show them together
maybe some ppl called themselves Vlachs but they still existed otherwise that law wouldnt be called the Vlach Statute. and they still exist in parts of serbia who have a smilar language to romanians and they are starting to call themselves as such
Don't bring up the Vlachian question, please. Romania has a dispute with Serbia about Vlachians in Serbia and it already caused diplomacy problems for the Republic Of Serbia. Romania basically treats them as Romanians but in my opinion, our Vlachs are less Romanised than theirs. Also, some Vlachian customs are pretty weird and ancient not to mention Vlachian magic...
100 000 ? lol you are crazy through the whole war chetniks didnt kill 100 000 soldiers even maybe we can talk for noumbers around 5000 civilians killed by chetniks that were not under the direct control from Draza Mihajlovic, so you cant judge all chetniks, also one milion civilians were killed by croats in ww2 so you cant compare chetniks and ustashe... and that declaration is bullshit, prove it send me the resourse of that statement!
A Bosnian's identity as a Bosnian - even if it originally referred to his geographical homeland or state membership - has roots going back many centuries, whereas the classification of any Christian Bosnian as a Serb or a Croat goes back barely a century. The idea of being Bosnian Muslim in a "national" (as opposed to a religious) sense is even more recent. ” -Robert J. Donia and John VA Fine, excerpt from their book- Bosnia and Hercegovina: A Tradition Betrayed
@@gensunasumus101 Wrong. Bosniaks are the descendants from Bošnjanins who were the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Bosnia and most of them were followers of the persecuted Bosnian church before they converted to Islam. Bosnian however is a geographical term, everyone from Bosnia is a Bosnian, thus the term Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Croat etc.
@@coolekikker4454, Bošnjanin, Bosnian and Bosniak are geographical terms. Beguiling that you're referring to don't prove or disprove anything. One example is Tvrtko Kotromanić, a ruler. His official title was the ruler of Serbs, Bosnia, Primorja and Humske land. No other ethnicity is mentioned. Ever. We in Bosna, Herzegovina, Dalmacija, Montenegro, Serbia etc. are from the exact same ethnic trunk.
@@gensunasumus101 Yes we are the same ethnically, that is to say, we are all south Slavs. Serbian, Bosniak, Croatian aren't really ethnicities rather nationalities with different religions and slighly different cultures. Tvrtko was a Bosnian king that ruled over Western Serbia.
yeah u can cuz its all based on politics. Chritian population didnt like the muslims aristorcracy (who owned lots of land on which mostly chritians worked) Muslims lived mostly in cities.Ur right, why do bosnian croats, serbs and bosniaks have a similar set of genetics ,culture and dialects then the neighboring states. in 1830s a book by serbias Minister Ilija Garasanin wrote how in bosnia there are bosniaks of 3 faiths and that serbia will through the church bring them serbian consciousnesses
The Chetnik commander is Dušan Bulajić, the great Serbian actor. People often mistake him and Uglješa Kojadinović, also a great Serb from Croatia. Well, Uglješa was born in Bosnia Herzegovina. To be honest here. Uglješa je bio iz Srpca, Glamočana, naš divni Srbin, Dušan Bulajić je bio naš Čačanin. Ja kao Hrvat volim te ljude. I, as a Croat love those guys.
@@mixa4238 they ve aided americans and before just 1 year they've saved Nazis against Partizans They've saved americans just to be themself saved from americans cause they have seen that their freinds Nazis would lost the war!!!
Nisu partizani pobjedili četnike nego ih presvukli u svoje jedinice.Malo skratili brade i mjesto kokarde zvezda na čelu.Zato su kasnije napravili pokolje nad nesrpskim stanovništvom isto tako i 1991 do 95.Partizani i četnici su iste zvjeri sve metode zvjerstva su iste.
Thats nonsense. The declaration called for preservation of Yugoslavia but with clear borders between nations within yugoslavia. It included Bosnia in Serbian territory because bosnian Muslims were at that time considered Serbs of Islamic religion (which they are). It didnt even mention occupying Croatia. Also it didnt mention murdering anyone, it called for exchange of population. Besides it was not written by Mihajlovic, it was written by lawyer named Moljevic and it wasnt official ideology.
е ово је снимљено у селу равно код купреса у том селу су живели само срби одатле је пореклом и моја супруга сад тамо готово да и нема срба а стећце су припадали богатим трговцима србима који су трговали са дубровчанима а сад те стећке својатају хрвати из купреса и дувна - штаћеш данас се својата туђа историја и нико за то неће поцрвенити од стида ето такво је време дошло
Unfortunately political differences appeared very early in regard to organizing the government in liberated towns, partizans were communists, and chetniks royalists and soon they started fighting each other in late autumn/winter 1941. However, all these people raised against germans to liberate Serbia, so putting chetniks in same perspective as croat ustashe, albanian and muslim who willingly greeted Hitler, formed SS units and sent troops to Eastern front to help Germans is wrong.
yes and serbs and croats are two of the many tribes that came, its just those 2 tribes became powerful so their whole region started to be called serb and croat. not to mention slavs came in two waves serbs and croats came in second. also lots of bosnia is gothic, celtic and illyrian we know by names of places and genetic testing and some documents
Every Chetnik fought for one fascist power or another. The western allies didn't ditch them until later in the war when it was obvious the Partisans would win. Mihajlovic may have been a little anti-German at first, and he was supported by the Italians. He later openly declared that his goal was not to fight the occupiers, but merely the Partisans. For the most part Mihajlovic's only major accomplishment was killing civilians.
People seem to forget that Mihajlovic was a decorated veteran from world war 1 as well as the Balkan wars so he wasn't a little bit anti german but a whole lot. His own wife and kids were in concentration camp Banjica at one time. Also what the hell was he doing in a goddamn forrest during the entirety of the war unlike Nedic (Belgrade) and Pavelic (Zagreb) and why was there a warrant issued for him dead or alive in the same amount as for Tito in 1943. by the Germans ? No sane person would believe that Draza would go around his native Serbia and butcher his own people. There was nothing he could realistically do ,since Hitler himself ordered 100 Serbs killed for every German dead and 50 for wounded, except suppresing an evil which is not far from fascism in its cruelty and destruction, that is communism, until ,he thought, the allies opened a front in Greece like they did in WW1. He made huge miscalculations and errors which in the end cost him his life but he kept his word and served honorably till his last breath. He could'be easily run away. That is not to say that some other Chetniks weren't butchers and scumbags. Over most Draza didn't have direct control except their lip service that they serve the king. Chetniks were never a unified group but a legacy from the time prior and during the Balkan wars especially from the various insurgencies in Macedonia. Every Vojvoda could do as he saw fit most of the time.
What is funny how tunes live, but in different peoples and ideologies; Serbian četniks: Kralj nam Petar poručuje; Yugoslav partisans: Na Kordunu grob do groba; Croatian ustaše: Evo zore, evo dana; Bosnian Muslims: Čujte braćo muslimani, džihadom se islam brani ....
Nije mi jasno zasto se srbi zaklinju u kralja jednu pobjegulju koji ih je ostavio i pobjegao u englesku sa svojom porodicom itamo uzivali citav zivot a oovde mu narod umirao od gladi i sveg jada koji ih je zadesio zaista apsurd
It's interesting to think how Jugoslavia/serbia would be now if Chetniks had beat the Communists. Most likely not In aa much debt as tito made the nation. Could there had been peace in balkans I'd the chetniks won? I don't know
You dont get it. There existed peoples/tribes, but states didnt follow them at that time. Area was inhabitted by Serbs, who formed several states, like Rascia, Doklea, Bosnia, at different times. Its historical dutchies, all inhabbited by same people. Prior to forming bosnian mediaval state there is no single mention of bosnian 'tribe' or 'nation' among slavic tribes in blakans, and also no mention after bosnia fell to turks. Clearly its just geographical/historical term, and people are serbs.
Yul Brynner received $1,000,000 at the time the highest amount paid to an actor in a fantasy - while in reality the Yugoslav people were starving at the time. What a tragedy ... how many factories would that have built at the time?
jedini Aleks Yeah sure! My dad grew up in communist Yugoslavia and I know plenty of others who did also. By any chance are these "facts" from the Pan-American Ustasha Movement handbook?
except for the fat-necked communist party-members who could not put a neck-tie around their neck -EVERYONE starved - when was it good? name a year and I will give you the GDP, economic median and how much it cost to have sex with a Yugoslav chicks - easiest in the world -but nice. :-)
why so angry? ... OK your mother was not that cheap ... oh ... when did your village get electricity and sewerage? ...its in poverty even now ...www.ce-review.org/01/20/cetinic20.html
Actually they are Serbs. If they were not, then today there would exist some Bosnian ethnicity who is not of muslim religion. Its not possible all Bosnians converted to islam, some would stay unconverted christian Bosnians, but they dont exist. Truth is much simplier, they are Serbs who converted. Same as in Sanjak who was never part of Bosnia. The mediaval Bosnia means nothing, mediaval countries were not national. Mediaval Bosnia is just historical land, like a dutchy.
It is Serbian land actually! 'Macedonians' are mixture of Serbs and Bulgars,'Bosnians' are islamised Serbs and Croats. Chetniks fought against teo evils of that time Communism and Nazism! They saved 600 american pilots in just ONE action! They defended Serbs from those fasist that you noumbered in your comment!
*kako si glupa ko god je se borio istinski za Srbe dobio je Metak i to od Srba*Nikad Shvatit da se trebate izvuči iz Kože Zločinaca i Priznati Genocid i Zločin u Batajnici*Koprcajte se u Lažnoj Istoriji koju vam Piše Hrvat Šešelj*
really? define "Serb". bosnia was an idependent kindom. pretty sure unbiased and objective professors from usa, russia and uk wrote about it have proof. Mediavel countries were not national, then neither is serbia. u make no sense becuase u have nothing to argue against.
w w Evo me stižem na kafiču i spremi gi bakljave i ljimunadu i picu mladu oho tandrttttan tandrttan sećaš kako je bilo sunce moje milo kad sam te drndao još tandrttttan tandrttan operi si ženi guzu da ga primi u trku tandrttttan tandrttan a ti meko i pre api za jajca bre tandrttttan tandrttan pa kaže Aaaaajmo svi zajedno sada tandrttan tandrttan šipče moje malo nije nam se dalo da te guzimo još trdtdtdtdtdt tandrttan ..Pozz veljiki u tebe tandrttan šipče moje malo tandrttan ĆĆĆĆĆAAAAOOOOSSSSSS
Xaxxaxaxa...Bosnian rulers was Serbs,saying that they ruling in Serbian land,speaking Serbian language! So Bosnia=Serbian region! Croatia bearly existed in medieval becouse they fell under AU empire in 1102! Macedonians never existed as separated nation,they can only be Greek Macedoinians,but by the genes they are Serbs and Bulgars,so what you talking about? Are you communist? Only they ar that blinded with propaganda!
The idea of the chetniks was to fight the Nazi,but they didn't do it for various reasons. the fight of the Chetniks ended in November 1941, after which they made alliances with one enemy and the other.We see them with Italians,after with Germans,in some cases they have fought on their own war(Ideological)with communists,(Ethnical) with Croatians.
Jesu Srbi tukli jedni druge zbog čega?Moj deda je jednog sina poslao u Partizane drugog u Jugoslovensku Vojsku u Otadžbini ispalo je da je poslao brata na brata a Hrvati su prešli masovno iz Domobrana i Ustaša početkom 1945 i postali tkzv prvoborci
točno.Vole kraljeve ,makar i kukavice .Kralj je 1994 .zabranio četnicima da surađuju s nacistima protiv partizana.Velika većina presvlači uniforme i postaju veći artizani od oni iz 1941,od Vardara a do Triglava se roteže križni put gdje usput ubijaju tisuće i tisuće ne nužno ustaša ,nešto četnika i domobrana ,cijele familije odvode u put bez povratka .Hude jame i sl.San o V.Srbiji se istopio i 1995.Kome vjerni ...
Dude everyone knows Serbs declared themselves as Vlachs early in Ottoman rule, because Vlach cattle raisers had tribute exepmtions. Thus this name was used for Serbs ever after and even today they call Serbs Vlachs in Bosnia and elsewhere.
Dragi moj u četničkoj vojsci u bitci na Neretvi je bilo 200 Bošnjaka.nije istorija baš ono što si učio u skoli.www.sedmica.me/cetnici-muslimani-draza-je-najvise-volio-fehima/
Yugoslavian western
Very good !
kultna scena gde se lepo vidi kako jedan oficir ne razume politiku...i kao rezultat tome ostane bez svoje vojske i ostaloga sto ide uz to...
I onda Duško Bulajić izrešeta Orsona Wellesa. Jače od Sergia Leonea. To sam ti htio reć. Pa mislim, kad gledaš, to je tako. Imaš pravo, kultna scena.
3:57 Orson Welles❗☝️😎👌👏🎞️🎞️🎞️🎥🎬
Almost whole of Serbia was liberated in 1941. by joint effort of partizans and chetniks. They fought together, because both were serbs, from same towns, same families even, and results were good, but very soon it became obvious political differences between leaders are too big and they started fighting each other, splitting serbian antifascist movement and bringing great misery to our people.
Na neretvi je tako i bilo, partizani porazili četnike
Uz pomoc Nemaca.
You cant make program to call someone serb, its ethnicity. Serbs are people, not a nation. Its origin, and blood, a tribe, dont know if you understand. You are Serb if your parents, grandparents etc are Serbs, you cant 'become' Serb. My ancestors on mother's side are bosnian Serbs, and they never considered themselves anything else but Serbs, as long as memory goes. Names and surnames of ancestors show that too.
I just told you in autumn of 1941 whole serbia was liberated from germans, except for major towns with large german garrisons. That includes dozens of battles fought equaly by chetniks and partizans.
gillis is a cool dude
Hello. Just a note, chetniks fought alongside axis forces in 1943, 100%. That is a historical fact, 100%. Anno Domini 2023.
i could watch this video over and over again
Wb SS Handzar that terrorist got a slap on the wrist. ISRAELLL
Sameee
ma sisaj ga socno :)
thats not what his document said, although some parts of bosnia, serbs did come in, but not all of them are serb lots are vlach orginally
It takes a special kind of stupidity to have men charge an entrenched enemy armed with machine guns.
this is unbelievably inaccurate, the chetniks were rarely the main attacking force and nor did they fight on horseback. They also rarely fought on this mostly flat set terrain but were conceived in the mountains and resorted to guerrilla tactics
no, it takes a chetink!
@@renzoV33333 I don’t need to be an army veteran to know how the Chetniks typically fought, and what happened at Neretva. Just by taking a quick look at the casualties list you can see that the Partisans had around 4-5 times the Axis-Chetnik casualties, thus the movie totally misrepresents reality.
Chetniks have nice songs
True
But they suck
Largest fight was for town of Loznica on August 31st 1941, which was
liberated by partizans and chetniks together. Other big cooperation was
attack on Sabac 22-24th september. These were not major battles, but there
were many, it was national uprising and guerilla fighting in which most of
Serbia was liberated only few months after german occupation of Yugoslavia.
Loznica was liberated only by chetniks not by chetniks and partisans together.
@@user-uq7dn8ub6y 😂
@@Neo-wy3fl What is funny? That is common- known fact.
@Ž Š Užice was surrended by Germans to Chetniks of Kosta Milovanović Pećanac(German allies and enemies of Mihailović's chetniks) and then surrended to partisans by chetniks of Kosta Milovanović Pećanac without any kind of fight. When we talk about Battle of Neretva both (Chetniks and Partisans) had moments of tactical cooperations with Axis, everyone did it in different phases of battle. The main difference is the thing that Chetniks cooperation has been more like military cooperation and Partisans cooperation has been more like political cooperation.
@Ž Š That is exactly the case you mentioned now and I mentioned in my previous comment when we talk about partisans political cooperation. Of course that is not cooperation based on ideology but that cooperation came from tactical needness. Both (Germany and Croats on the one side and Partisans on the other side) had feared by possible allies landing, everyone because of their own interests and they had chetniks as a common enemies. It is the case known in history as the March negotiations. That happened during the Battle of Neretva or during The Fourth Enemy Offensssive(operation named like that in Socialistic Yugoslavia) or Operation Weiss(That is how Germans called that operation).
Οι Κροάτες είναι γερμανικά φίλα.ειναι απογωνοι των UNO απόδειξη ότι μέχρι σήμερα μιλάνε γερμανικά είναι uni οι Κροάτες
what is the song on the song called
Given your name, I assume you know "Spremte se spremte četnici", so the one you are probably asking about goes like this "Telefonske žice zuje, Kralj nam Petar poručuje, Neretva će ovih dana, bit grobnica partizana. Partizani crni vrani, Dani su vam odbrojani!", but I don't know its name or if it even has one... Either way, it turns out they were wrong, as Neretva became "grobnica" of Chetniks instead.
War within a war
Sick film
Actually thats not true. That goes only for croats, who started claiming all catholics are croats somewhere arround 1901, after great bishop conference and actions of pope Leo XIII. Serbian nationality and identity was already well formed long before that. At times of serbian uprisal against Turks in 1801, bosnian Serbs call themself serbs, and supported uprisal, and same was with prior rebelions in Montenegro/Herzegovina. Bosnian 'identity' is local, geographical, and not ethnical.
Nope. There is a problem here. You have to understand one thing here. Serbian and Croatian history is divided. We Croats are Catholics, Serbs are Orthodox. But, we are one. We speak the same language. On their Eastern side, they had their freedom, we were still under Austrian-Hungarian slavery. Finally, after the First World War finished, we could be together. It was because our Serbian bros won that war. Austrians made us Croats fight against them. Finally, in the Second World War, we fought side by side. We won. Never a Croat was better just when he fought with a Serb by his side. When we Croats and Serbs fight together, we are a deadly combination. We go to hell and back. And that was our Yugoslav anthem. Neće nas pakao smest. The hell will not take us away.
@@MladenPostruznik i am over 50 years old so i learn in school that austria was jailor of all slavic people who lived in empire and kingdom. today i think this was over simplified and unilateral view. you have lot of slavic people who made big carriers in military like Borojević (orthodox) and Njegovan in navy. and the main reason for assassination of Ferdinand in Sarajevo was his willingness to reform austro-hungary in some kind of federation of states which would give slavic people and others more autonomy.
nationalist croats and serbs during yugoslavia both did not recognize bosnians as a seperate ethnic group even though we wanted to and macedonians and montenegrins both of which never had their own historical state did become regocnized. Macedonians are more serb then bosnians are. Bosnia had its own alaphabet and culture (STECAKS for example) We even had a bosnian dictionary since 1636, 200 years b4 vuk karadizic's dictionary. His words in the dictionary sound more bosnian then serbian
Ovo je čista mitologija ,realniji su dječiji crtići od ovoga
yeah they did kill innocent people my grandparents were from eastern bosnia and during ww2 they had to move north cuz chetniks were killing muslim and catholics. maybe it wasnt Draza but people under his command did and again it happend in the war and again serbs are denying it
Lays
People in my village in Serbia the whole time thought that partisans, that were later announced as heroes were killed by the same DM chetniks, when they were actually killed by Serbian fascist under nazi command. I later checked the facts in wikipedia. So, this is just an example that people actually have no idea who were the killers. Since, chetniks were Kingdom of Serbia and later Yugoslavia special forces, that term was very popular back in the day. In Serbia alone, there were 12 groups that called themselves chetniks, but only JVuO chetniks were portrayed in all the movies as killers and fascists, when in fact the truth was quite opposite. And that's a problem. People who really fought for their country were made into war criminals. Their families can't even receive medals of honor for their bravery in public because a huge number of people still believes communist movies propafanda.
@Daniel K You are a fool for responding to the wrong comment. Did you even read my comment and do you even understand English or you just randomly call people names for no reason? People like you give DM Chetnicks a bad name.
@Daniel K Well, obviously there's something wrong with your perception. 🤔 as you are atacking the wrong commentator and wrong comment. I never said they're fascists.
@@Monnah Chetniks weren't fascits, that's true, but they were fascists servants. They were "useful idiots" for Germans. Not all of them, of course, but that was their result at the end of the war.
The 500 pilots btw were rescued by rouge Chetniks who stayed as a third faction. This group was really small and was mainly made up of Montenegrin Chetniks. Bosnia never officially existed before the Yugoslavian Republic and was always considered a part of Croatia. Macedonia has its own separate culture. What you're saying really is that Ukraine belongs to Russia or Poland and Austria belongs to Germany. All the prove about Chetnik Nazis is just type it up and it will show them together
what movie is this?
battle of Neretva
Those chetniks look a lot like Sioux or Cheyenne with that long hair wavy hair!
Yeah, real Sioux...with mortars. :)
They swore an oath to not shave or get their hair cut until the country was liberated
@@thelonewanderer2550 They got no country, they're traitors.
They were filty scumbags, worse than in movie
@Jake Dbiop said the Bosnian jihadist
maybe some ppl called themselves Vlachs but they still existed otherwise that law wouldnt be called the Vlach Statute. and they still exist in parts of serbia who have a smilar language to romanians and they are starting to call themselves as such
Don't bring up the Vlachian question, please. Romania has a dispute with Serbia about Vlachians in Serbia and it already caused diplomacy problems for the Republic Of Serbia. Romania basically treats them as Romanians but in my opinion, our Vlachs are less Romanised than theirs. Also, some Vlachian customs are pretty weird and ancient not to mention Vlachian magic...
100 000 ? lol you are crazy through the whole war chetniks didnt kill 100 000 soldiers even maybe we can talk for noumbers around 5000 civilians killed by chetniks that were not under the direct control from Draza Mihajlovic, so you cant judge all chetniks, also one milion civilians were killed by croats in ww2 so you cant compare chetniks and ustashe... and that declaration is bullshit, prove it send me the resourse of that statement!
A Bosnian's identity as a Bosnian - even if it originally referred to his geographical homeland or state membership - has roots going back many centuries, whereas the classification of any Christian Bosnian as a Serb or a Croat goes back barely a century. The idea of being Bosnian Muslim in a "national" (as opposed to a religious) sense is even more recent. ”
-Robert J. Donia and John VA Fine, excerpt from their book- Bosnia and Hercegovina: A Tradition Betrayed
All Bosnians are Bosniaks regardless of religion.
Bosnian/Bosniak is a geograpbical term. Today's Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina are majority of Serb Christian origin.
@@gensunasumus101 Wrong. Bosniaks are the descendants from Bošnjanins who were the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Bosnia and most of them were followers of the persecuted Bosnian church before they converted to Islam. Bosnian however is a geographical term, everyone from Bosnia is a Bosnian, thus the term Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Croat etc.
@@coolekikker4454, Bošnjanin, Bosnian and Bosniak are geographical terms. Beguiling that you're referring to don't prove or disprove anything.
One example is Tvrtko Kotromanić, a ruler. His official title was the ruler of Serbs, Bosnia, Primorja and Humske land.
No other ethnicity is mentioned. Ever.
We in Bosna, Herzegovina, Dalmacija, Montenegro, Serbia etc. are from the exact same ethnic trunk.
@@gensunasumus101 Yes we are the same ethnically, that is to say, we are all south Slavs.
Serbian, Bosniak, Croatian aren't really ethnicities rather nationalities with different religions and slighly different cultures.
Tvrtko was a Bosnian king that ruled over Western Serbia.
8:18 shot by one of his own men.
Yes.
Treason
Chetnik guy got fragged.
Chetniks forewer
Ofc..... !
THIS IS DARNLY GOOD!
То је ипак само филм.Молим малоумнике да се не заносе,јер ништа није онако како изгледа.
Molimo maloumnika jeli Tito stvorio Jugoslaviju ili usrani Draža! hahahaha
@@elicvrcak8773 Пријатељу нешто си се препознао?
Bro this is Serbs and chetniks is the best
Which kind of books you have red?
yeah u can cuz its all based on politics. Chritian population didnt like the muslims aristorcracy (who owned lots of land on which mostly chritians worked) Muslims lived mostly in cities.Ur right, why do bosnian croats, serbs and bosniaks have a similar set of genetics ,culture and dialects then the neighboring states. in 1830s a book by serbias Minister Ilija Garasanin wrote how in bosnia there are bosniaks of 3 faiths and that serbia will through the church bring them serbian consciousnesses
45 godina pranja mozga.
У ВЕШ МАШИНУ
De "CICIN GROB"!!!
PISA MI SE!!!
I'm foolish OK..just show me what you say about chetniks?
Bitka za ranjence,poglejte si cel film😢lp iz Slovenije ❤️😊
gledo bre uzivo 1995...kuku lelee bre.bre..breeee.🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜
The Chetnik commander is Dušan Bulajić, the great Serbian actor. People often mistake him and Uglješa Kojadinović, also a great Serb from Croatia. Well, Uglješa was born in Bosnia Herzegovina. To be honest here. Uglješa je bio iz Srpca, Glamočana, naš divni Srbin, Dušan Bulajić je bio naš Čačanin. Ja kao Hrvat volim te ljude. I, as a Croat love those guys.
Fight but Chetniks even fight when it isn't needed and I wouldn't sell myself to occupiers either
That's literally what partisans did, not chetniks...
@@renzoV33333 They were fighting against occupation.
"We attack...Thats chetnick politics" xD
lets not forget that chetniks killed ORSON WELS!
Sure, but they also murdered thousands of civilians!
@@deekaye25 and?
@@deekaye25 so?
@@mixa4238 they ve aided americans and before just 1 year they've saved Nazis against Partizans
They've saved americans just to be themself saved from americans cause they have seen that their freinds Nazis would lost the war!!!
@@Kiddoworld584 no
Rasprava između dva Srbina na engleskom jeziku o tome dal' su bolji četnici ili partizani. :-D
jedno jezik jedno govno koe razlika
BRAVO za komentar!!!
Plačem :D :D :D
Četnici su bili heroji i koji su pomogali ljudima a partizani zločinci ubice i silovatelji
@@MajorPavle222 ma kud tebe ne nađoše
@@MajorPavle222 ISTINA!!
Nisu partizani pobjedili četnike nego ih presvukli u svoje jedinice.Malo skratili brade i mjesto kokarde zvezda na čelu.Zato su kasnije napravili pokolje nad nesrpskim stanovništvom isto tako i 1991 do 95.Partizani i četnici su iste zvjeri sve metode zvjerstva su iste.
Toje. Najveća Titova greška bila trebo sve izdajnike streljat
Thats nonsense. The declaration called for preservation of Yugoslavia but with clear borders between nations within yugoslavia. It included Bosnia in Serbian territory because bosnian Muslims were at that time considered Serbs of Islamic religion (which they are). It didnt even mention occupying Croatia. Also it didnt mention murdering anyone, it called for exchange of population. Besides it was not written by Mihajlovic, it was written by lawyer named Moljevic and it wasnt official ideology.
Браво :-)
Zašta Bravo nepismena glavo .što su se Srbi ubijali zarad nećijih interesa ?!
Гдје ископаше стећке? Nice touch.
Stvoru nepismeni po cijeloj Bosni imas stecke
@@bosnaihercegovinasarajevo6254 malo sam se raspitivao...rekoše mi da je snimano na Blidinjskom jezeru...to je negde oko Tomislavgrada ex Duvna.
е ово је снимљено у селу равно код купреса у том селу су живели само срби одатле је пореклом и моја супруга сад тамо готово да и нема срба а стећце су припадали богатим трговцима србима који су трговали са дубровчанима а сад те стећке својатају хрвати из купреса и дувна - штаћеш данас се својата туђа историја и нико за то неће поцрвенити од стида ето такво је време дошло
@@slaanjovanovic2336 Sasvim ste u pravu gsp Jovanoviću
@@slaanjovanovic2336 Samo Srbi zivjeli u selu Ravno hahaha oprosti im Boze izgubljeni su, ne znaju vise ni sto govore ni sto cine.
SLAVA I HVALA JUNACIMA-VITEZOVIMA -SRPSKIM ČETNICIMA !..👍❤🍀🍷
Prva pjesma??
Telefonske žice bruje ktalj nam petar poručuje, neretva će ovih dana bit grobnica partizana
@@lukapodgorelec8610 Evo Zore
Dobar muvi
SLAVA SRPSKIM JUNACIMA I MUCENICIMA SRPSKIM CETNICIMA
You're getting confused with Bosnia, Ustashland and Chetnikland have always been around
Unfortunately political differences appeared very early in regard to organizing the government in liberated towns, partizans were communists, and chetniks royalists and soon they started fighting each other in late autumn/winter 1941. However, all these people raised against germans to liberate Serbia, so putting chetniks in same perspective as croat ustashe, albanian and muslim who willingly greeted Hitler, formed SS units and sent troops to Eastern front to help Germans is wrong.
Why the fuck is it dubbed
What whould you do if your country is occupied ? Playing football maybe,genius?
Hahah only way Chetniks lose battle is in fictional movie
They lose to the dinaric aryan literally every time lmao jasenovac 2.0
Eygon Croat (Catholic Serbs) sing Danke Deutschland all day 🤣
They literally lost the whole WWII and we know that with absolute certainty because the communists took power in Yugoslavia xD
they literally lost tho, Yugoslavia, what is this delusional thinking? Yugoslavia literally became communist after the war.
Reof Because of dirty political tactics, not battle
yes and serbs and croats are two of the many tribes that came, its just those 2 tribes became powerful so their whole region started to be called serb and croat. not to mention slavs came in two waves serbs and croats came in second. also lots of bosnia is gothic, celtic and illyrian we know by names of places and genetic testing and some documents
This is the end.... my enemy the end..
Every Chetnik fought for one fascist power or another. The western allies didn't ditch them until later in the war when it was obvious the Partisans would win. Mihajlovic may have been a little anti-German at first, and he was supported by the Italians. He later openly declared that his goal was not to fight the occupiers, but merely the Partisans. For the most part Mihajlovic's only major accomplishment was killing civilians.
There is a doc on utube which has veteran accounts saying completely the opposite!
People seem to forget that Mihajlovic was a decorated veteran from world war 1 as well as the Balkan wars so he wasn't a little bit anti german but a whole lot. His own wife and kids were in concentration camp Banjica at one time. Also what the hell was he doing in a goddamn forrest during the entirety of the war unlike Nedic (Belgrade) and Pavelic (Zagreb) and why was there a warrant issued for him dead or alive in the same amount as for Tito in 1943. by the Germans ? No sane person would believe that Draza would go around his native Serbia and butcher his own people. There was nothing he could realistically do ,since Hitler himself ordered 100 Serbs killed for every German dead and 50 for wounded, except suppresing an evil which is not far from fascism in its cruelty and destruction, that is communism, until ,he thought, the allies opened a front in Greece like they did in WW1. He made huge miscalculations and errors which in the end cost him his life but he kept his word and served honorably till his last breath. He could'be easily run away. That is not to say that some other Chetniks weren't butchers and scumbags. Over most Draza didn't have direct control except their lip service that they serve the king. Chetniks were never a unified group but a legacy from the time prior and during the Balkan wars especially from the various insurgencies in Macedonia. Every Vojvoda could do as he saw fit most of the time.
What is funny how tunes live, but in different peoples and ideologies; Serbian četniks: Kralj nam Petar poručuje; Yugoslav partisans: Na Kordunu grob do groba; Croatian ustaše: Evo zore, evo dana; Bosnian Muslims: Čujte braćo muslimani, džihadom se islam brani ....
Аааа,jесте мало сутра било тако!
Nije mi jasno zasto se srbi zaklinju u kralja jednu pobjegulju koji ih je ostavio i pobjegao u englesku sa svojom porodicom itamo uzivali citav zivot a oovde mu narod umirao od gladi i sveg jada koji ih je zadesio zaista apsurd
It's interesting to think how Jugoslavia/serbia would be now if Chetniks had beat the Communists. Most likely not In aa much debt as tito made the nation. Could there had been peace in balkans I'd the chetniks won? I don't know
You dont get it. There existed peoples/tribes, but states didnt follow them at that time. Area was inhabitted by Serbs, who formed several states, like Rascia, Doklea, Bosnia, at different times. Its historical dutchies, all inhabbited by same people. Prior to forming bosnian mediaval state there is no single mention of bosnian 'tribe' or 'nation' among slavic tribes in blakans, and also no mention after bosnia fell to turks. Clearly its just geographical/historical term, and people are serbs.
Yul Brynner received $1,000,000 at the time the highest amount paid to an actor in a fantasy - while in reality the Yugoslav people were starving at the time. What a tragedy ... how many factories would that have built at the time?
People weren't starving, are you a CD or something?
you fu...g moron, right now at this f......g moment people are starving...
jedini Aleks Yeah sure! My dad grew up in communist Yugoslavia and I know plenty of others who did also. By any chance are these "facts" from the Pan-American Ustasha Movement handbook?
except for the fat-necked communist party-members who could not put a neck-tie around their neck -EVERYONE starved - when was it good? name a year and I will give you the GDP, economic median and how much it cost to have sex with a Yugoslav chicks - easiest in the world -but nice. :-)
why so angry? ... OK your mother was not that cheap ... oh ... when did your village get electricity and sewerage? ...its in poverty even now ...www.ce-review.org/01/20/cetinic20.html
Kad su došli na vlast
Smrt Fasizmu!!!
i tebi sinko
Smrt Burjuvazi,Sloboda Proleteria
I Komunizmu
Četnici i Partizani su u početku radili zajedno u drugom svjetskom
A što su se posvađali to je pitanje?
pa zato sto su komunjare hteli da uzmi vlast i vladaju dozivtno jedno 50-100 godina, bez ikakvih izbora
ha ha those chetnicks look so funy, kind a dummy
Haha ako ti se ne sviđa ne gledaj
They are 😉
@@user-tk6pn2ge1k foca 😉
а неретва причаће док тече како сабља четничка сијече
Chetniks 😎🇷🇸🏴☠️
1990ths
Good afternoon i would like were can hear de complete march song because is a wonderfull song i mean the march song when the movie starts
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Gde si bili partizani 1941 u misijoj rupi da nije bilo cetnika ni srpsko uvo nebi ostalo.
No partisans left...chetniks live forever
Chetniks its a fashist
NERETVA 1943 !!!
Dabogda pao u ruke ustašama, ne volim ih, al kad si zlo to ti želim...
@@almirhajdarevic8752 ako si ti zaista za partizane neka ti bude prosto
A dozen drunk unshaven lowlives waving flags i such a pride for chetnik movement
@@kitosjek9541 said the Nazi lovers
Na kraju se videlo ko je završio u grobu
Actually they are Serbs. If they were not, then today there would exist some Bosnian ethnicity who is not of muslim religion. Its not possible all Bosnians converted to islam, some would stay unconverted christian Bosnians, but they dont exist. Truth is much simplier, they are Serbs who converted. Same as in Sanjak who was never part of Bosnia. The mediaval Bosnia means nothing, mediaval countries were not national. Mediaval Bosnia is just historical land, like a dutchy.
What name is song they sing?
"Spremte se spremte cetnici" is second song but in start i don't know what is name of the song.
TheSpitfire109 telefonske žice bruje!
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Hey YOU beauty girl!
Sam se džaba ginulo
It is Serbian land actually! 'Macedonians' are mixture of Serbs and Bulgars,'Bosnians' are islamised Serbs and Croats. Chetniks fought against teo evils of that time Communism and Nazism! They saved 600 american pilots in just ONE action! They defended Serbs from those fasist that you noumbered in your comment!
Na tribinite na Zvezda Ucese Istorija? / Ucio si istoriju na Zvezdine tribine?
Vi I vasa propaganda daj ba manite vise usvojavanje mi Bosnjaci smo I tacka vi niste postojali u Bosni prije 150 godina
Jedini koji su se istinsku borili za svoju bracu Srbe Slava im
*kako si glupa ko god je se borio istinski za Srbe dobio je Metak i to od Srba*Nikad Shvatit da se trebate izvuči iz Kože Zločinaca i Priznati Genocid i Zločin u Batajnici*Koprcajte se u Lažnoj Istoriji koju vam Piše Hrvat Šešelj*
really? define "Serb". bosnia was an idependent kindom. pretty sure unbiased and objective professors from usa, russia and uk wrote about it have proof. Mediavel countries were not national, then neither is serbia. u make no sense becuase u have nothing to argue against.
Jest ih bata maklja
Косово е Сербия! Мы с вами, братья!
Kosovo njet srbija jos od kosovske bitke
@Marko Bordijasevic ajde na kafu tamo ako smijes
w w Evo me stižem na kafiču i spremi gi bakljave i ljimunadu i picu mladu oho tandrttttan tandrttan sećaš kako je bilo sunce moje milo kad sam te drndao još tandrttttan tandrttan operi si ženi guzu da ga primi u trku tandrttttan tandrttan a ti meko i pre api za jajca bre tandrttttan tandrttan pa kaže Aaaaajmo svi zajedno sada tandrttan tandrttan šipče moje malo nije nam se dalo da te guzimo još trdtdtdtdtdt tandrttan ..Pozz veljiki u tebe tandrttan šipče moje malo tandrttan ĆĆĆĆĆAAAAOOOOSSSSSS
alall ti vera VELJKO DOBRO SI TO ODRADIO
Xaxxaxaxa...Bosnian rulers was Serbs,saying that they ruling in Serbian land,speaking Serbian language! So Bosnia=Serbian region! Croatia bearly existed in medieval becouse they fell under AU empire in 1102! Macedonians never existed as separated nation,they can only be Greek Macedoinians,but by the genes they are Serbs and Bulgars,so what you talking about? Are you communist? Only they ar that blinded with propaganda!
Jedva ste porazili malu grupu partizana zar vas nije sram
Pogresne knjige citas idiote ustaski djavole 👹
Комунистички је филм шта си ти мислио
@@user-pk5ze3jj9h glupi su oni sta da radis
Pobednik pise istoriju, bitka se desila drugacije ali nekim maloumnicima to ne mozes objasniti
Typical Chetniks never won a battle in history
Yeah and the earth is flat
I LOVE YU.
The idea of the chetniks was to fight the Nazi,but they didn't do it for various reasons.
the fight of the Chetniks ended in November 1941, after which they made alliances with one enemy and the other.We see them with Italians,after with Germans,in some cases they have fought on their own war(Ideological)with communists,(Ethnical) with Croatians.
My point exactly.
Komunisticka propaganda kakva laz covece
Justifying chetniks would be just as justifying German Nazis.
(They coolobrated btw)
No they didn't they were just using the enemy
@@thelonewanderer2550 Yes they did.
@@smjesniagent5552 why collaborate with a side that murdered 500,000 of their own people.
Chetniks what a guerilas!
war criminals and bandits
Jesu Srbi tukli jedni druge zbog čega?Moj deda je jednog sina poslao u Partizane drugog u Jugoslovensku Vojsku u Otadžbini ispalo je da je poslao brata na brata a Hrvati su prešli masovno iz Domobrana i Ustaša početkom 1945
i postali tkzv prvoborci
80 godina kasnije, komunizam je prihvatila samo politicka elita. Srpski narod je u ogromnom broju ostao veran Kralju i Otadzbini.
točno.Vole kraljeve ,makar i kukavice .Kralj je 1994 .zabranio četnicima da surađuju s nacistima protiv partizana.Velika većina presvlači uniforme i postaju veći artizani od oni iz 1941,od Vardara a do Triglava se roteže križni put gdje usput ubijaju tisuće i tisuće ne nužno ustaša ,nešto četnika i domobrana ,cijele familije odvode u put bez povratka .Hude jame i sl.San o V.Srbiji se istopio i 1995.Kome vjerni ...
@@snowinsummer603 Aj ćuti kolko je samo ustaša prešlo u komuniste,pa kako neće; komunizam i ustaštvo dvije bratske jevrejske ideologije.
Dude everyone knows Serbs declared themselves as Vlachs early in Ottoman rule, because Vlach cattle raisers had tribute exepmtions. Thus this name was used for Serbs ever after and even today they call Serbs Vlachs in Bosnia and elsewhere.
@bungurovic e poserem ti se na "armiju" ....
Poslije su masovno presli u partizane.Mislim nakon ove propasti u Popovom polju.
Dragi moj u četničkoj vojsci u bitci na Neretvi je bilo 200 Bošnjaka.nije istorija baš ono što si učio u skoli.www.sedmica.me/cetnici-muslimani-draza-je-najvise-volio-fehima/