Choosing the right Bricks for building your Pizza Oven

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  • čas přidán 12. 05. 2020
  • Why not build a pizza oven using pressed red bricks? We went full nerd on the question, building a test rig to show the effects thermal shock on different bricks. Learn more: thefirebrickco.com
    Our custom Thermal Shock Test Rig is effectively a gas heated furnace with a series of pneumatic actuators, controlled by an Arduino Uno. The idea is pretty simple, we know that it's not actually high temperatures that cause pressed bricks to fail, it's repeated cycles of thermal shock - rapid change in temperature from cold to extremely hot.
    For more information on building a high quality Wood Fired Brick Oven that's going to last a lifetime, check out our website; www.thefirebrickco.com
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  • @gregk8246
    @gregk8246 Před 3 lety +146

    I just sat through a 15 minute video about bricks for no particular reason and found it one of the more interesting videos I've watched recently. 🤣🤣 good video

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +7

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @JB1052
      @JB1052 Před 3 lety +3

      Haha, yeah, I wanted to know what fire bricks actually do because I don't really know about them. I sat through this 15 minute because it kept my interest. Still don't know what fire bricks are used for but I know now that the brick can tolerate thermal shock. So, I guess I learned something.

    • @sparkling1one
      @sparkling1one Před 2 lety +2

      Me too, loved it

    • @razony
      @razony Před 2 lety +2

      Me too.

    • @stevegreen65
      @stevegreen65 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah he did a nice job with the test rig too.

  • @quantumofconscience6538
    @quantumofconscience6538 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The old Russian stoves used for hundreds of years in the coldest parts of Russia were composed of 500 to 800 red bricks with (white) plaster over top many of them. They simply didn't have firebricks until a few decades ago and probably still don't use them in "remote Siberia." The reason these ovens lasted for 20 or 30 years is, just like he said, once they were brought up to temperature (say, the first day of October,) they were heated twice a day, every day through the winter, and the bricks were not allowed to "cool down" until, say, June 1. The thermal mass, as a whole, kept way above room temperature. I'm sure they had to do some minor repairs on the firebox every five or 10 years, but not on the rest of the brick stove.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před měsícem

      Spot on - and they would have heated them up fairly slowly too, to avoid thermal shock at the beginning of the cycle. If you used them that way the vast bulk of that construction would last for a very long time, but eventually the brick in the firebox would need to be replaced.

  • @ClosetWorkshop
    @ClosetWorkshop Před 3 lety +54

    Thumbs up for the sheer amount of effort you have put into this! From building a jig, to writing arduino code to automate this jig and making a clear video explaining all these concepts without bias - Thank you!

  • @shaunramadan9515
    @shaunramadan9515 Před 2 lety +5

    Never been so interested in wood fire ovens now,… the bricks, the temperature, the pre cast vs brick decision, and even cooking times amaze me. Great content. Now I just got to save up for one!

  • @joec8915
    @joec8915 Před rokem +6

    Great video. This actually makes me feel better about using regular old red bricks in my outdoor pizza oven. Mainly because it’s temporary and will only be used a few times. If I’m to build a permanent one definitely going with the fire bricks.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před rokem +2

      This is exactly the intent behind this video - glad to hear it was helpful!

  • @galatig
    @galatig Před rokem +3

    Congratulatórios , you just went from "I think" or "I was told" to actual real proof, Hats off on your effort and rigurosity.

  • @anthonykinrade8642
    @anthonykinrade8642 Před 3 lety +35

    This video has given me the confidence to build my domestic pizza oven from the cheaper red pressed bricks and replace them when necessary. Thanks!

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +10

      Good stuff Anthony! Jump back in here and give us an update in a while to let us know how it's going over the years.

    • @kignacio
      @kignacio Před 2 lety +10

      Replace them? You mean rebuild your entire oven right? I’m all for using red brick for an oven but replacing means rebuilding to me.

    • @anthonykinrade8642
      @anthonykinrade8642 Před 2 lety

      Yes, exactly what I meant! Rebuild it when required.

    • @kignacio
      @kignacio Před 2 lety +2

      @@anthonykinrade8642 I would think it would last a generation. Leave the door on while cooling and it would take 2 or 3 days to fully cool. Same with heating, heat it up from morning until night or vice versa.

    • @DormantIdeasNIQ
      @DormantIdeasNIQ Před 2 lety

      That's short minded if not stOOpid... enjoy the redbrick crunch on your pizzas.

  • @Stevef2234
    @Stevef2234 Před 2 lety +2

    Respect for this mans building potential. Such an awesome rig. Dont forget the steel going in and out of that oven. Another modern marvel. Thanks for putting together this video.

  • @petematthews7303
    @petematthews7303 Před 4 lety +6

    Awesome content. I just viewed a video recently about building a pizza oven using the pressed red bricks. A lot of the comments mentioned that these bricks would explode if used in this way. Your demonstration was good to see, so that I would feel more comfortable knowing the bricks won't explode during use but develop cracks over time. I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation!

  • @razony
    @razony Před 2 lety

    Straight forward, to the point and honest. Very few can pull this off. Thanks, my friend.

  • @TheGebrano
    @TheGebrano Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the info. I am just about to start my oven so this will be so useful. Much appreciated.

  • @jerebuck
    @jerebuck Před 2 lety

    Very useful and instructive. I'm just building a masonry stove and tossing up between fire and pressed brick, I get what you're saying. Excellent presentation by the way, good, clear and down-to-earth: very Oz. Thank you!

  • @RameshNayak-bg3ew
    @RameshNayak-bg3ew Před 3 lety

    Thank you. I was making a wood fired oven in the garden and i came across your video. Now i know what is thermal shock and flaking.

  • @Grandwich
    @Grandwich Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this information. I have wanted to build a brick oven for quite some time and any new information I find is very helpful. Thanks again! Very much appreciated information! 💞

  • @ITACHI_UCHIHA11161
    @ITACHI_UCHIHA11161 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for your time and expertise to educate us on this.... really appreciate your efforts.
    Thanks

  • @nathanieljoseph3863
    @nathanieljoseph3863 Před 4 lety +22

    thorough and concise - good well done. whenever i get around to building an outdoor pizza oven, i think it's safe to say the investment in fire bricks are well worth it. cheers!

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @nerdgamer6047
      @nerdgamer6047 Před 3 lety +3

      Ive been looking into making one as well theyre not too much more expensive than a regular brick thankfully unless youre building a really big one and even then you could get away with the structure being clay and the internal cooking part being fire brick

  • @markhisted3320
    @markhisted3320 Před 3 lety +2

    Love the test rig ..... well done 👍

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      It was SO much fun to build. Definitely want to play around with more of that kind of thing when we get some more time...

  • @ToddAndelin
    @ToddAndelin Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this video and explanation!

  • @djcichlid7746
    @djcichlid7746 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you. Very informative! I bought red concrete bricks for my small outdoor oven, i hope it will do ok. And as you said, i will slowly acclimate the hot temperature to them before i cook them pizzas😃

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety +1

      See how you go DJ, feel free to report back here in a few months with how it's all going!

  • @chomp54321
    @chomp54321 Před 2 lety

    In a way, this video alleviates my concern with using regular bricks to build a pizza oven, since I really don't think it would be used for more than 5 or 6 times a year. Thank you for the really helpful information.

  • @jepnidera
    @jepnidera Před 2 lety

    as someone interested in making my own pizza oven, this video helped me a lot! Kudos!

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety

      You are very welcome! Thanks for the encouragement!

  • @johanmalmberg6838
    @johanmalmberg6838 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video! Really helpful for my upcoming project. Thanks!

  • @RamkrishanYT
    @RamkrishanYT Před 3 lety +2

    Loved the honesty, amazing video

  • @buridah328
    @buridah328 Před 3 lety

    This was very helpful. Thank you.

  • @floyd-head
    @floyd-head Před 6 měsíci

    Coolest test tig.. tests done very nicely. Enjoyed your full video though watched it without any context. Glad i watched it. Cheers mate. Keep up the good work.❤

  • @ohvnaq
    @ohvnaq Před 3 lety +7

    great video! love the amount of nerd in this! you've sold yourself some fire bricks (metaphorically speaking)!

  • @Hecvillanueva
    @Hecvillanueva Před 3 lety +2

    Great presentation,you really educated many views on this subject.👍

  • @martymartinez9410
    @martymartinez9410 Před 2 lety

    This was very informative and probably will save me some heartache when I finally get around to building that pizza oven. Thanks for making it!

  • @missyrabbit5250
    @missyrabbit5250 Před 3 lety

    excellent tutorial. I learned a lot, thank you.

  • @SG-pc4sv
    @SG-pc4sv Před 3 lety +3

    Great Video, Very informative!

  • @agnesolry3362
    @agnesolry3362 Před 3 lety

    Nice, I was just about to buy the red ones to make my pizza oven. Thanks a lot.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      No problems! It's not that pressed red bricks won't work, they'll just slowly break down over time.

  • @maheshmehendale9210
    @maheshmehendale9210 Před 2 lety

    Very nice demonstration , very technical.

  • @peterlazos1978
    @peterlazos1978 Před 3 lety

    That was an eye opener!

  • @macbaar
    @macbaar Před 4 lety +23

    Thank you now I know about thermal shock and bricks... 🤓🤓😢🤓🤓🤗🇨🇭 👍👍👍👍

  • @dannydangelo762
    @dannydangelo762 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video. Great explanation.

  • @TecOneself
    @TecOneself Před 3 lety

    Thank you, I'll put on my list to watch it again.

  • @channelm8044
    @channelm8044 Před rokem

    Really thank you for such a quality content with experment.

  • @sumbamotor
    @sumbamotor Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for the information my Friend

  • @somejerkbag
    @somejerkbag Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wow, what a well made informative video! Thank you

  • @jjhallatt
    @jjhallatt Před 2 lety

    Very informative video. Thanks guys.

  • @terrafornopizzaovens
    @terrafornopizzaovens Před 3 lety

    Nice vid Ben. 🍕 Ovens 👍!

  • @safetydave720
    @safetydave720 Před 2 lety

    Excellent. This was very helpful for me to make the right decisions for my design of an oven I am going to build. Btw, lol, I like the sounds in this video.

  • @Vazmenko
    @Vazmenko Před 3 lety

    Excellent video! Thanks

  • @wasanthikoralage8230
    @wasanthikoralage8230 Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much.. really nice job.this video helps me lot

  • @karloskardenas2414
    @karloskardenas2414 Před 3 lety

    Well done brother! 🙏🏻

  • @CC-wq8yz
    @CC-wq8yz Před 3 lety

    Excellent video!

  • @coopersm2
    @coopersm2 Před 2 lety +1

    This is perfect! Next (if you guys do this again) should be testing different "species" of fire brick, i.e. refractory cement vs plaster-of-paris mix vs etc.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Great idea!

    • @nikitast7611
      @nikitast7611 Před rokem

      Also maybe you could test bricks with different alumina. 30% 40% 50% alumina

  • @MsCelestialSecrets
    @MsCelestialSecrets Před 3 lety

    Well done mate 👍🏻

  • @hacksaw413
    @hacksaw413 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the information

  • @hunters36forgingwoodworkin73

    I used red bricks for my forge and it worked well. It was a cool forge but after a couple uses some the bricks cracked. You probably when to use firebricks when making a forge if you don’t want to make one from a truck rotor, 1/4 or 6-8mm plate. Wield it in the shape of a box tapering down like maybe a 6x6in tapering down to a 4x4in. Or a 8x8in tapering down to a 4x4in. That is 20x20cm tapering down to a 10x10cm. Probably 3 1/2 inches deep or 8xm deep.

  • @SglTurner
    @SglTurner Před 3 lety +1

    Very informative, thank you

  • @yasseribraheem294
    @yasseribraheem294 Před rokem

    very important informational video !!! thank you very very much.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před rokem +1

      You're very welcome! Glad you got something out of it!

  • @cyrushenry1909
    @cyrushenry1909 Před 4 lety

    Very informative!! Thanks.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 4 lety

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @cyrushenry1909
      @cyrushenry1909 Před 4 lety

      @@TheFireBrickCo If i wanted to build a ghetto version with old red bricks, I was thinking 100 year old reds, I've got a stack of them, plus cash seems to be a bit tight these days with this corona thing, would you guys do just a floor and flue kit? If so, how much? Cheers

  • @BlueJazzBoyNZ
    @BlueJazzBoyNZ Před 3 lety

    Excellent Presentation. About a question I didn't know I needed an answer to.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Hahaha, glad to hear it was helpful!

    • @BlueJazzBoyNZ
      @BlueJazzBoyNZ Před 3 lety

      @@TheFireBrickCo Does it also apply to terracotta tiles.
      I suspect Yes.
      Thinking about a Pearlcrete Pizza Oven on top of an insulated j hook rocket stove.

  • @JimHensel
    @JimHensel Před 3 lety +4

    I built an Alan Scott design (the Bread Builders book) wood-fired oven 10+ years ago. I would guess I have fired it more than 100 times since. The hearth is fire brick but the dome and end walls are used red brick (probably 80-100 year old brick). I take 3 1/2 hours to fire to 800F 1" below the hearth or dome surface), cook the pizzas over the next hour and then it takes 24 hours to cool back to ambient. I have not had any spalling of the dome or end walls. The red bricks may have cracked, but nothing has fallen on the pizza or the hearth. I wonder if the slower cycle times accounts for the lack of spalling. Also the Alan Scott Design has a cast concrete cap over the dome to hold everything in place.
    I don't know of any pizza oven that cycles as quickly as your test rig. I realize that a 24 hour test would take a long time to complete multiple iterations but your current test seems to not mimic reality.
    A topic I would like to see explored is thermal mass. The Alan Scott design is really a high mass bread oven designed for multiple bakes in succession. Pizza does not need that thermal mass. It just needs high heat on the hearth to cook the bottom and the fire to cook the top. As a consequence of the thermal mass, I use a lot of wood to heat up the oven .

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Hi Jim - thankyou for the very well thought out response, much appreciated! The test rig was designed not to try to mimic the exact conditions experienced by a brick in a wood fired oven, but to show the effects of thermal shock on different materials.
      Your longer cycle time is definitely going to be protecting the bricks from severe thermal shock - I'd be interested to hear your firing method and whether you build the fire in one location inside the oven, and how that particular area is faring compared to the rest of it.
      Your heat up time at 3.5 hours is fairly long, but it's the cool-down time that has me interested - 24 hours is very short, is that with a door sealing the oven opening? I think that Alan Scott has done a great deal of good for the wood fired oven community, however his design doesn't incorporate much insulation, and focuses on thermal mass. The thing is, you can have BOTH. If you had the same thermal mass that you have in your oven, properly insulated, it should take around 3 days to cool down, and even then it would be well above ambient. Any suggestions of an experiment/video that we could put together around the Thermal Mass topic?

    • @JimHensel
      @JimHensel Před 3 lety

      @@TheFireBrickCo My ASD oven has the following features: Hearth is fire brick laying on top of 3 1/2" of reinforced concrete slab that is thermally broken from the slab support walls. Under the concrete is 5 1/2" poured in place perlite/pumice and cement insulation ; Dome is one layer of red bricks with a 3 1/2" poured in place reinforced concrete cap with 6-10" of perlite/pumice insulation over that.
      I start the fire at the door and push it back as the fire progresses so that by the 2 1/2 hour mark it is in the center of the dome (it is actually a barrel vault). At the 3 1/2 hour mark I rake out the embers all over the hearth and let it soak. I keep at least one piece of wood burning during this so that when i push all this to the back, I still have a fire. I add a couple of sticks of wood, at that point, swab the hearth with a wet rag on a stick and probably wait another 20 minute for things to even out. The first pizza is always a flat bread to test the heat (don't want to waste toppings). If it is too hot I wait some more, if not we are good to go. I think Alan Scott thought this oven took 5-6 hours to fire to get enough energy in the mass to cook 4-5 batches of bread.
      i remember being on a forum before he died and he quit the forum due to exasperation with us pizza makers complaining about how long it took to heat up. His point was this is not a pizza oven, it is a bread oven. I think he said something like " if you want a pizza oven, get a 200l barrel, cut the end out, lay it on it side and build a fire". His point was you don't need the same thermal mass for just quick cooking pizzas.
      I leave the door open for cool down. If I close the door (uninsulated) I am sure it wouldn't reach ambient for 48+ hours.
      I buried 5 thermal couples in the masonry at the time of construction so I could learn how quickly it heats up. What I found is that even with my 3 1/2 hour firing, the concrete below the hearth and above the dome was barely 200F and continued to suck heat out of the bricks after I stopped firing. I" from the surface was 800F
      The next one I build will be much less massive - maybe just bricks and some insulation.
      i was hoping you could maybe show how quickly heat builds up (or not) in bricks. Some folks have wanted to used insulation bricks for their oven but miss the point that the retained heat in the bricks is actually helping cook the pizza.
      I do like my hearth size -30" x 40". there is enough room in the back for the fire and room for a couple of Pizzas. It could be shorter than 40" - maybe 30x30 and do the same thing although working closer to the door is less convenient handling of the pizza.
      I have been half tempted to build an oven that is fire brick with an insulated metal dome. Get the hearth hot and then rely on a good fire to radiate the heat off the metal dome to cook the top.
      Enough for now

    • @goranpetrovic2321
      @goranpetrovic2321 Před 2 lety

      My is build the Same way, except I used the ones with 3 holes in it, filled with mortar. Used for about 2 years to cook pigs and lambs, no crumbling yet. Heart is fire brick

  • @byLokie
    @byLokie Před 2 lety

    Nice Demo Mate. I have a Wood fire BBQ (for a better word) which I built from ordinary bricks I had laying around. Its been in service for over 5 years but it only gets used 3 times a year as I have a Normal gas BBQ.
    I had never thought about a house Fire place.I guess they do last a while. I can recall some old Pubs with fires every night. Blood Fire heats up the whole Pub!

  • @ricardogbravo
    @ricardogbravo Před 2 lety +1

    congratulations, a very clear and explanatory video! perfectly clear and very good to learn from those who know, thank you very much, again my sincere congratulations and thanks!!
    Thanks to the advantages of virtuality, I am writing to you from Colombia, I had to thank you for your great pronunciation, for people who have another language as their mother tongue, it is much easier for us to understand when a person pronounces English so well, thank you very much that's why too

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety

      Oh thankyou Ricardo! My mother would be very pleased to hear that my pronunciation is on point!

  • @mikehartley2592
    @mikehartley2592 Před 3 lety +1

    Really informative vid, thanks.
    Is it possible to use the bricks from storage heaters instead of fire bricks in a pizza oven? Could you test them like this to see?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      I'm not certain but I had a feeling that storage heat bricks were very similar to fire bricks?

  • @georgesantis1078
    @georgesantis1078 Před 2 lety +2

    At last someone who knows what they are talking about. Great video.

  • @huttjos85
    @huttjos85 Před 3 lety

    Very informative!

  • @hazlox
    @hazlox Před rokem +2

    Cracking is all about the COE alumina and fire clay have relatively very little movement within their thermal expansion whereas red brick have lots of iron which is less dense and Ferris non- Crystal Inn

  • @joesue3890
    @joesue3890 Před 3 lety +2

    I like your experiment way, great job👍🇮🇩

  • @sustainwind9340
    @sustainwind9340 Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much for this video

  • @joning82
    @joning82 Před rokem +1

    Thanks, very usefull video

  • @singhA1968
    @singhA1968 Před 3 lety

    excellent experiment sir,

  • @rarestgem1021
    @rarestgem1021 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for sharing

  • @boblode9716
    @boblode9716 Před 3 lety

    Cool Geek

  • @ryancarper595
    @ryancarper595 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video! thanks for doing this - excellent demonstration. Just a question, will covering the front of the bricks with a centimetre or so of fire clay stop this rapid deterioration?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +4

      Good question Ryan - the issue with that will be that the fire clay wouldn't bond permanently to the brick, and would delaminate over time. Otherwise it would definitely make a difference, by reducing the severity of the thermal shock experienced by the brick.

    • @ryancarper595
      @ryancarper595 Před 3 lety

      @@TheFireBrickCo Good point, didnt think about delamination. Thanks for that :)

  • @MultiTut69
    @MultiTut69 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Do you use your fire brick for floor also or do you have a recommendation on a floor refractory for a home wood fired oven?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      We definitely use them for the floor - the floor cops thermal shock just as badly as the dome so you want to use the right material there too.

  • @michaelblack4993
    @michaelblack4993 Před 4 lety +3

    Really enjoyed this demonstration. Will you be releasing studies on Brick mortar?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi Michael, it's definitely on the cards! We will be setting the rig up again soon...

    • @SD_Alias
      @SD_Alias Před 3 lety

      the right mixture of sand and clay works very well....

  • @Arthur-kf5wj
    @Arthur-kf5wj Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for the informative video, very cool testing setup! I'm building an oven but am more worried about food safety of the materials, do you know if there are any health concerns for heating standard red brick vs fire bricks to a high temp?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Arthur - great question! Our fire bricks are made from fireclay, which is a naturally occurring material with a high level of alumina. I don't believe there would be any difference between a pressed red brick and a fire brick in terms of preparing food on either surface, providing the pressed red brick is unglazed (which would be an issue)

    • @maxgarbani6644
      @maxgarbani6644 Před rokem

      @@TheFireBrickCo
      Isn't aluminum bad for our health ?

    • @nikitast7611
      @nikitast7611 Před rokem

      @@maxgarbani6644 well it is probably bad if you eat it, but not if it is inside the bricks.

  • @cusodha1
    @cusodha1 Před 3 lety +1

    Great jo...very scientific.

  • @namelesswarrior4760
    @namelesswarrior4760 Před 3 lety

    Hi there, I was wondering if you guys stock fire bricks suitable for building a DIY forge? I'm a local in melbourne myself! Thanks

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      We do, but in these crazy days we aren't able to ship them out or have customers visit! Sighs.

  • @Al-ms6me
    @Al-ms6me Před 3 lety +2

    EXCELLENT VIDEO

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @Al-ms6me
      @Al-ms6me Před 3 lety

      @TheMelbourneFireBrickCo
      Do you have any videos on hiw to make fire bricks. Ive watched a few and they all seem to be different and seeing as though youve done testing i thought maybe youd know a good recipe

  • @varmintkong357
    @varmintkong357 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting video. Just curious, how much better would normal brick hold up in an open fire pit as opposed to an enclosed oven? Thanks

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety +1

      Now THERE is a good question - firepits don't get nearly as hot as a wood fired oven as they're open, so you have fresh, cold air coming in over the bricks cooling them down somewhat. That's for the sides at least. For the base, it's still going to get very hot beneath the fire. The downside of firebricks in that application is that they are porous, so they'll soak up rainwater if left exposed.

  • @tomnsampgd1
    @tomnsampgd1 Před 3 lety

    Awesome. Love from India

  • @financeman07
    @financeman07 Před rokem

    Thank you, Thumbs Up!! Would you mind giving me your opinion on what sort of problems I'll encounter if my contracter used the SAKRETE High Heat Mortar with actual "Fire Brick" but instead of just using the mortar underneath the brick, he used it underneath and then made grout lines instead of placing the brick next to each other. Can I use that a my cooking surface? Or do I have either replace the whole thing by putting another layer of fire brick. hope this question make sense

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před rokem

      Hi Yuri - it does make sense; your oven floor has mortar joints in it rather than being firebricks pushed hard against each other. It should pose a huge issue - I would want the mortar to be recessed slightly below the brick surface so that you don't end up getting any into your food though

  • @superbreastman
    @superbreastman Před 3 lety +2

    Really cool physics lesson in practice. Thank you so much for giving a demonstration of the real meaning red bricks are not as strong as fire bricks. I guess 99% of us all thought they could explode ore not handle heat at all ! But that is not the truth :-)

  • @miningking70
    @miningking70 Před 6 měsíci

    Well done! Thanks for the video excellent information. P.S. The Higher content of Alumina in the firebrick the better quality the fire brick will be. It's also more expensive the fire brick but will handle more heat!

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks!! You are correct on both counts - however they will also be more thermally conductive which can be a problem for the oven floor (burning the crust). We find the 38% mark is the sweet spot - high enough for great quality brick, but low enough that they aren't going to burn a pizza the second it hits the oven floor

  • @archierika-rayne5343
    @archierika-rayne5343 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi, do you have recommendation on what to use for the mortar? Would bog standard Portland cement do? Cheers

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hi, great question! Definitely don't just use normal Portland Cement based mortar - it breaks down at around 350C which you are definitely going to exceed. You'll need to find some Refractory Mortar in your region

  • @shawnconnelly1
    @shawnconnelly1 Před 3 lety

    Would you say it would be a longer-lasting design to use red brick on the sides of the over and use fire brick where the wood will burn and the platform you will cook the food on? Or would the bricks on the side also have issues the heat change? Fire brick is 3-4 times as expensive which is why many people stay away from it and use red brick and then pavers for the shelves in a tier oven build.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Unfortunately the bricks on that make up the oven walls will experience a great deal of thermal shock too

  • @keesjanhoeksema9575
    @keesjanhoeksema9575 Před 3 lety +2

    You got A nice pizza oven there Mate!
    I think the pizza will be done faster in Your Nerd oven then in A Neapolitan one!
    BTW what are the bricks in Your Nerd Furnace?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Kees - haha I think those pizzas would burn instantly! The bricks lining the furnace are an insulating firebrick - very soft and porous but incredible insulators.

  • @tommcquade5213
    @tommcquade5213 Před 3 lety

    What about the actual slab the pizza sits on what do you recommend. I've seen guys just use a patio stone which seems suspect to me... Unless there's mesh through it?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      We use fire brick tiles for the floor of the pizza oven if that's what you're referring to?

  • @MrTomkzn
    @MrTomkzn Před rokem

    Thanks so much for this info Ben! I've been scouring the internet for fire bricks in South Africa and they are scarce as well as extremely expensive.
    When using pressed red clay bricks for an oven, should I preferably use refractory cement as mortar?
    I'm thinking that standard cement/mortar will crack and break long before the bricks do.
    And to your knowledge, would clay paving bricks be a better choice than the pressed red bricks?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před rokem

      No problems! Without knowing a whole lot about the pavers I couldn't say for sure whether they would be any better than the pressed reds you have available. Definitely use refractory mortar if you can get your hands on some!

  • @MrMusickey
    @MrMusickey Před 3 lety +1

    So to prevent red brick flaking, how slowly should it be heated? Would they flake if it was brought to temp over an hour?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Hi Jasper, to minimise spalling you would probably need to ramp them up over around 5 hours or more - the big bread ovens take several days, sometimes longer to get up to temperature.

  • @dansw0rkshop
    @dansw0rkshop Před 2 lety

    What sort of disclaimer do you provide for ovens dropping grit onto the pizza? I've thought of starting a wood fired pizza shop but what if a customer bites into tiny fragments of firebrick?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety

      That's a good question - it's not something that we have ever heard of happening with one of our ovens thankfully! I'm guessing that most restaurants would need to have some kind of public liability insurance cover?

  • @mike65120
    @mike65120 Před 3 lety

    So, you ran your test through 240 cycles. And as you mention, in fireplaces the spalling is in the hottest areas, not on the surface of all the bricks. I'm assuming this would be the same in a pizza/bread oven - so in the dome directly above the fire and the floor directly below it. Less spalling (maybe) in and above the actual cooking area. My concern has always been about the comments saying "regular" bricks will explode. You say that's not gonna happen. If I fired it up a few times per month, regular bricks seem like they ought to last a good while before I have to worry about getting brick dust and bits into my food! Thank you so much for this video!

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      No worries! Just take you firings very slowly - don't use our Fire and Forget method that's for sure!

  • @goranpetrovic2321
    @goranpetrovic2321 Před 2 lety

    Question, I built a giant wood fired brick bbq (before seeing your video). It’s all build with similar size bricks burnt with 3 holes that are filled with mortar. It also has 4 inch concrete counter and then more of the brick that goes all the way into the chimney. Inside the bigger size oven opening I layered fire yellow bricks, on the concrete counter and inside oven and only about 4 feet high (inside oven). That brick is about 5 inches fat. Do you think I’m safe?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety

      Hi GOran, what you don't mention is any kind of insulation materials to protect the concrete counter (concrete doesn't survive much past 350C). The bricks with the three holes in them will definitely fail over time, and possible quite rapidly as they are an extruded brick

    • @goranpetrovic2321
      @goranpetrovic2321 Před 2 lety

      @@TheFireBrickCo I understand that it will deteriorate in time, but with once a month use I don't think it will be that problematic. Heart of the BBQ has a 5 inches (12.5cm) fat fire bricks, both sitting on top of concrete counter and inside and around about 3-4 (90-120cm) feet high plus the chimney all brick. Opening is quite big, cook box interior is 4 ft (120cm)wide and 2-3 ft (60-90cm) deep and its quite high. Enough place for heat to disperse. I don't thing my counter will ever reach 350C.

  • @woodonfire7406
    @woodonfire7406 Před 3 lety

    Firebricks, or bricks that's been harden by fire, got it
    . . . What about the binding of the bricks when making an oven? Do I use cement? Or mortar? Or something that's specialized in heat resistant and thermal shock?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Hmmm not quite - technically almost all bricks are 'hardened by fire' - a fire brick is made with a very different type of clay to most building bricks. You would need to use refractory mortar to lay the bricks for a wood fired oven - check out our building series for more info

  • @maxineking5920
    @maxineking5920 Před 2 lety

    Really very informative, clear and useful. Can't add to comments of Subbu below. Thank you.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Před 2 lety

    So could you use standard bricks for most of a wood stove or oven and just use fire bricks for the lining of the fire box?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety +1

      You will find that almost all of the inside of a wood stove will reach the same temperature as the fire box, so you'd be well advised to stick with fire brick throughout

  • @jonathanm9436
    @jonathanm9436 Před rokem

    Well, anything with Arduino is science and therefore is definitive!! Ha. Impressive. Even used the pliers as they're designed. Excellent.

  • @MaTaRu39
    @MaTaRu39 Před 3 lety

    How about using adobe or compressed earth blocks?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Adobe, clay or 'cobb' materials can be quite heat resistant, but they have issues of their own. My conversations with people who are big fans of cobb ovens have all reinforced my understanding that they just don't last very long. They're incredibly cheap to build, but they tend to fall apart fairly quickly. They also really don't like getting wet, at all, as the clay never reaches temperatures high enough for it to become a ceramic material. It's a good question though, I might have to dust off the Rig and do some more testing!

  • @hectordayo8661
    @hectordayo8661 Před rokem

    Any idea what kind of bricks 🧱 do we need to used for fire oven?
    Thanks 🙏

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před rokem

      We recommend using fire bricks for a wood fired oven, as you'll see in the video 😊

  • @marquiswhitsette3555
    @marquiswhitsette3555 Před 2 lety

    How did you cut the samples so cleanly? Are they from the same bricks on the table?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 2 lety

      Good question - diamond blade on a wet cutting brick saw. Yep they were cut from those very same bricks!

  • @mooyee1982
    @mooyee1982 Před rokem

    这实验牛批!推荐给了建筑学院的师弟。哈哈哈

  • @musclestonebricksolutions3059

    building a oven.bristol blue engineering on outside then insoluton then fire bricks with 30mm of render on.blues ok to use?.

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před rokem +1

      Hmmm I'll just re-word that to see if I understand you correctly. Firebrick as the hot face, followed by high temperature insulation (50mm of ceramic fibre blanket would be the ideal) then 30mm of render, with the 'bristol blue engineering' brick on the outside? If that's the approach then it sounds good.

  • @davidcampbell7209
    @davidcampbell7209 Před 3 lety

    Your content is why I love CZcams very interesting and informative. Thanks for your time to make these clips.

  • @zestycleaning8086
    @zestycleaning8086 Před 3 lety

    What about pavers? Are they made differently to bricks?
    Thanks!

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety

      Good question - I believe a pressed paver is quite similar to a pressed solid brick, just a different shape (and sometimes a glaze I think!)

  • @TheRainHarvester
    @TheRainHarvester Před 3 lety

    Can I use red building brick if I line the firebox with rectangular slabs of granite, or marble from counter top cut-offs? Will it be food safe?

    • @TheFireBrickCo
      @TheFireBrickCo  Před 3 lety +1

      I couldn't recommend that - granite or marble will spall even more than pressed red brick in a firebox environment!

    • @TheRainHarvester
      @TheRainHarvester Před 3 lety

      @@TheFireBrickCo oh. From what others have said since I asked, they said granite, a metamorphic rock created from molten rock, would be fine. But I have no experience. Has it spalled for you?
      I did put a slab of marble into the fire to see what would happen and it was still smooth, but it was only 1 fire.