Which Fallkniven Do I Buy?
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2019
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"You don't have one that's like super good value do you"
Yeah we all knew the answer to that one... 🤣
I think the regular F1 in CoS hits a sweet spot for wet/cold weather bushcraft. Still expensive, but worth it to me.
Elmax better. Lam cos is no reason when elmax can take more lateral abuse, which was main purpose of laminating steel. Elmax betger
@@jimlahey5623 Yes but buddy, you have to consider price. It's 100 dollars more..
id say S1. :)
@@jimlahey5623 Elmax,M390 etc, are the last steels you want in a survival knife. They are way to hard and brittle which also brings more disadvantages. 52100 (ballbearing), 50100b (Ka/Bar's steel isn't 1095, it's Carbon V or else 50100b), 5160 etc steels, are far more ideal,that's why Esee,Ka-Bar, Tops, Morakniv,Extrema Ratio,Lionsteel all use softer steels on their survival knives. COS is the better option for Fallkniven, Elmax if you drop the knife, the tip will break easily.
Good videos. As I go back and forth deciding on Bark River vs Fallkniven, your videos are amongst the most realistic, funny, informative and unique. Thank you for putting in the work.
I could probably watch an hour of you and you as the Fallkniven rep character exchanging laughs.
I love your vids, especially your more goofball stuff.
I second that motion
The whole damn thing!
Uncle Randy ain't got nothin' on that salesman
Thanks for the video. Wish there was more of the 'S' series for a comparison to the 'F' as they are the two I was dithering over. However, the bit about their warranty is a bit of an eye-opener and something I hadn't previously considered. Appreciate the time you've taken over this, cheers.
Fore the price point of these knives I personally think they could manufacture them here in Sweden. We have a long tradition of making blades, originally swords and weapon manufacturing but also kitchen cutlery and scissors. Not much of it left but the knowledge is still there, and the steel production in Sweden is also a good one;-) But i also understand the fact that to make something exclusive you have to have a high price point.
Great, great vid. One remark: the NL series (Northern Light) have a stacked leather handle.
I understood from the DBK boys that COS is much easier to sharpen than the VG10 and 3G.
Stoked for your upcoming fixed blade video!
Imagine trying to baton and featherstick in Australia, especially redgum. Any knife that gets through our wood is good enough for me
Same here in South Africa
Imagine paying $1200 for a knife that is only 10% better than $120 carbon steel knife. Ouch!
@@julianpetkov8320 have yoy owned one?
@@jps4737 Fallkniven? No, they are overpriced Cold Steel to me, although Cold Steel is not exactly value for money in Australia either. Their Trail Master knock offs are not much different to Cold Steel's. The one with the flat grind is the only sensible. The one with the saber grind is just a sharpened log splitter tool - useless. I now collect folders and have moved away from overpriced big knifes.
Man I always think this haha these DBK guys and their soft pine !!! someone should mail them some red gum and ghost gum slabs. I whittle faces and figures out of it with a beaver craft theyre great whittling knives from Ukraine .
That tang meat makes a difference! Maybe they'll discover skeletonization in a few years. Thanks for the great video Pete!
Agree with your points here; if money is no object, I'd have several of these knives, but it is, so I don't. I do know a couple people that swear by this company, however there is plenty of other knives out there that are just as good and without the issue of price and a weak warranty. Appreciate the review, Pete.
I've got the 'standard' F1 with a left handed zytel sheath.
I really like the unobtrusive low profile sheath, means I can EDC the knife without getting too weird looks...
and it's left handed too!
Let's not talk about the price ...
Nice videos! Looking forward to see how carbide tungsten will look after some wear and tear.
I fell in love with the S1x over the last weeks... thanks to feeding the addiction, Pete. Dammit, I've got to buy it soon...
I'd love to see a comparison between S1x and the Lionsteel T5 !!
thx a lot for all the advises ! i will go with the S1X. can't wait for your review
LMAO at the "Super Value" Joke 😂
Great video. Appreciate your sharing your funny thoughts with us. Well done all the way around.
Splendid choice of music for the show in hand . Good video . I do not own one but they look very nice . Cool t-shirts etc !
I love my A1 over all my high-end knives. Just need a custom kydex sheath for it and you're set.
Carry a smaller carbon knife or a ferro rod in combo, no need for a high carbon blade.
That Fire Emblem soundtrack, you sir are great with your choices - knives and music!
One of the earliest knife reviews I seen of yours was a fallkniven
I’m always so close to buying being a sucker for a drop point and they have done a sexy career of using it right. The price is never warranted compared to the steel they use. The hype of the new x series and finish would be where I’d buy but still won’t. Just been in the custom world for several years. Fallkniven also has some great folders. I want one of the budget versions.
Good video Pete.
Also Fallkniven use 3G steel in some knives such as the F1.
Just got the s1x. Very nice knife! It feels like it can take anything
Couple things... I’ve used the warranty twice. It was incredible. Shipped me a new knife to the USA in 3 days! And paid for return postage. They will send clips and washers for folders free as well. I have fucked up the finger guard on an a1 standard. The pro is a welcome upgrade. Next cos is the shit! Awesome stainless steel. It’s expensive to make knives in Japan, but they have the BEST steels. Also the pro kit, as in the box sheath stone and knife is warranted for life. I guess only if you buy the set. With the waterproof box
I used a lil wax paper in my FK plastic sheath to get rid of the rattle. Worked great.
Loved the intro. Greetings from Texas.
F1 Pro is so pretty! Love the bolster.
I own the smallest one and love it and it is sharp I strop it and off I go!
I have the Modern Bowie which is more than many of my firearms still deciding if it was worth it.
Hovered over the down thumb in case Cedric dint' get pats, but good boy, Pete! Thumbs up, and you get a biscuit!
Hi Cedric, thank you for the cool video and comparisons/explanations. I would like to mention that Fallkniven does have a life time warranty on their Pro line of knives... I just purchased the A1 pro and the MB Pro and both come with a waterproof plastic case, sharpening stone and sheath with a life long warranty. You can opt to spend a bit less and loose the case and downgrade to a 10 year warranty on the pro line as well, but then that is your own choice.
F1x is no life warranty? I like it themost
Very funny intro. I like the F1 as a survival knife because of it's slim profile but the handle is to thin for me for prolonged use. In fact the only handle I like so far is that of the H1. I like the beefy handle for my XL size gloves hands. Also the H1 is not tapered down and has no swedge making it a strong point. I have no real problem with zytel sheaths but preferred the old kydex ones. There are kydex sheaths available for the F1 (different maker) but this adds to the price of course on these not cheap knives. Good review.
I have a standard F1 and A1. Given what they cost me ($100 and $120 US) and the full convex grind I think these are the best overall performance relative to cost. "Better" is the enemy of good.
Great video would love to see this with the other brands
I own a f1 pro and love it but I agree, They need to stand behind their product better with a lifetime warranty. For the amount of actual replacements they would do they would get many more purchases and multi knife owners
I was thinking of getting the "simple" A1.
Now, i want them all...… And especially the X series......
Just got my F1x and love it, love it so much I'm selling my standard A1 as I got it years ago and never really had a use for it. Fallkniven are expensive but you only need to buy it once. I have also owned a A2 and a S1 but have sold the A2 as it was too big for any practical use for me if I need to get into log I use an axe I mostly use my knives for hunting not bushcraft or survival. I think most people including myself got carried away with survival and survival knives its just not realistic if I were lost or injured while outdoors in the bush I would just hit the PLB gps beacon and just wait for rescue is more realistic scenario for me. Great videos really enjoy them keep up the good work.
So only need to buy it once and you bought 4 already by my count?
You OBVIOUSLY are just not Murican enough. Zombie apocalypse get-home, bug-out, insurrection against the government prepped phobias are real bro!
@@Guide504me thinks there’s a difference between need and want… lol.
@@pomegranatepip2482 yeh just a bit of self reflection for me...!
@@Guide504 I know how you feel. . . .
Wow really awesome video!!! :D
Hey! You pronounced Fällkniven correctly in the opening! :p
one of the best videos I've seen
20 years ago I got the standard F1, and it came with a nice wraparound black leather sheath. Then I got the standard A1 that came with a leather drop sheath.
I just recently picked up an S1 Pro, and ordered a leather drop sheath from Lamnia that dresses it up, and added a ranger band and firesteel to it. After I bought it I started thinking that since I have large hands that I should have bought the S1X instead, as I heard its handle is slightly longer. (?). Plus I could eventually add aftermarket scales to it, but agree with you that the Pro seems pretty nice, and I feel it’s strong enough for my use, although I can see why people would like the more balanced 50 gram plus weight of the X series. My sole objection is that with large hands that lanyard hole on the Pro is fairly useless, but that’s not a big thing. I like that I can hold it in cold temps comfortably.
By the way, 20 years ago I was lucky enough to get in on a group buy on a knife site with a Fallkniven rep, and also got an NL5 and NL4, a Frei and an Idun. The 5” NL4 and S1 easily use the same leather drop sheath, although the NL knives both came with wraparound style leather sheaths. I think if I could only choose one Fallkniven it would be the NL4, although in practical applications you could do more hard use work with an A1.
I appreciate your detailed (and very humorous intro!) comparison on the three standard lines, haven’t seen that anywhere else. 👍
Great info! Well done.
I just picked up a standard F1 in COS steel. It's the best of both worlds.
Christopher Ruebsam fantastic choice that’s the next knife I’m gonna get
Hi mate but they are sooooooo thick. Just picked one up in a shop and gave it the good old calliper test. 7 points on the Richter scale LOL! The guy in the shop told me it would be good for tenderizing some tough pork chops, I split my sides open right then and there, nearly had to carried out of the shop!
Two wraps of black electrical tape around the sheath over the locking mech solves the problem immediately. Not that one should have to but its a solution that has retained my limited edition SGPS f1 since I bought it many years ago.
I bought the basic VG-10 F1 when I found one for half the price in a local sporting store. I just couldn't walk past the grail knife of my teenage years that had a 50% sale tag on it. 6 months of use and I've loved it, though I am a bit paranoid about chipping every time I use it. I feel I got good value for my money.
I cant decide which one i like the most, so i dont wont buy any. I dont know how good is the CoS steel when compared to other, there are too many of them
I have one of the earliest versions of the A1. It has a non-laminated VG10 blade and a kydex "dangler style" sheat. I also have the F1 and S1 w/leather sheat. My choice would def. Be the S1. The F1 is to thick to be that small (what she said) And the A1 is to big and heavy/clumsy, without offering much more than the S1, due to it beeing "short for its size. (Here we go again) I think the S1 is a perfect do it all knife, that could do fine in a emergency/survival role. Like that would ever happen... I don't quite get the steel choice for the A1, as it is more of a chopper style knife. But then again, it's what Hattori makes i guess. GREAT customer service btw. I mailed them some questions, and Peter answered me personally, whit a long, informative and polite mail.
I changed my mind on the coating. It looks good
Great overview! I have a fair collection of Fallkniven knives. What I really wish for is A2X or A2pro.
True, A2pro in elmax would make my peepee hard
I think the most worth it knife of all is the F1X it is my dream knife.
If you put a small peace of packing foam in the sheath it stops the rattle and helps hold the knife.
Hi. I have an F1 pro in the basic sheath, and a S1 in a leather sheath. I like both. No rattle in my F1 pro sheath. I love these knives.
I do like that new coating.
I got the s1x in the black coating, quite nice and enjoyable
The non X models are definitely not a “stick” tang.
Yes they are, I have the A1 pro and it has snapped twice just cutting an apple with it.
@@CodgersUnited For anyone wondering, this guy is obviously lying. You can also see photos of the exposed tang on plenty of forums in case anyone is doubting the knifes full tang.
The Intro still hitting strong every time I see it 😆
Very useful video. Thank you.
I agree with everything, especially the warranty which is the worst in the business. Now that they have the super rugged A1X I have finally come around to purchase one. I also purchased a Bark River that is 1/2 the size and is still more expensive but to me presents a better value.
Perfect. What I needed to know.
So glad you’re not slow to point out the ridiculous bullshit in the knife world. A warranty more than anything just tells me what the knife company thinks of their own product. Bark River also has an unconditional warranty on their blades.
I’ve been on a Bark River Knife kick as of late, but one of these days, I’ll pick up a Fallkniven.
That would be a step down.
I don't own any. I do own a lot of Bark River and LTWK though and I'd say you get a much better warranty from both. It doesn't hurt that I live an hour from BRK too so that makes warranty work and spa much easier.
Jesse Adams what’s ltwk
jojojaykay LT Wright Knives.
@@JesseAdams Thanks bbycakes
dirtime I guess we all have different experiences. I live close so I just bring mine in and I've always had great interactions talking with Mike and Jim and several others.
Intro had me dying 😂
My first is an S1 pro and it is a monster love it. Looking at f1 and bark river gunny as my next one s
2:03 I think the A1 standard is good value actually. I own it myself and it is one of the best ones I've ever had. Currently cost around EUR 210, AUD 345, USD 250.
I own knives twice the price and are not better than this one. Not a tiny bit. The thickness is just perfect for it's lenght and is very well made.
Anything else is just too overpriced and not even better. The pro series is too thick in my oppinion. They should have stayed with the same thickness but updated steel. A1 standard is CoS, 3G or CPM 3V, man, I would get it no matter the costs.
They have years of good design history, but I won't climb that price mountain to obtain one. The view isn't 'that' good.
Esee is so great. The 5 and 6 are all you need
Brilliant, thanks a lot
Bad impersonations are the best 😂
I was drinking water when he said GET THE FOCK OUT! I nearly spit it out!
Why is your music choices always amazing??
Edit: hey Pete have you ever heard of Down Under Knives? I've always wanted one but they are kinda spendy for me. They make an exact working replica knife of crocodile dundee but they also have a ton of cool fixed blades with awesome aussie names! I would love to see you review one!
They are Euro owned Asian made yet marketed as Australian, I'd like a Dundee knife but not like that.
@@xONEWINGx oh wow I didnt realize that...good to know...I would still like to see some tests on their knives but yah that's a bummer.
Survival knives, a very personal decision which will vary with age and experience. So, a self designed and self made knife guaranteed what I wanted. Trouble is, when it came time to use it in earnest, I couldn't bring myself to batter my baby. Enter the S1x which came closest to my design brief. No problems here with beating the crapola out of the CoS. Positive value is when the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, but because we all put a different value on the components of benefit and disadvantage, the equation will be different for each one of us. Or am I just blowing wind from the distal part of my alimentary canal?
as a steel nerd i find it very hard to get to grips with fallkniven's line-up - because A2, F1, H1, S1, SK1, SK2, SK6 and V1 are all steel grades, and i find myself attributing spurious qualities to the knife models through association with that steel. for example, you say A2L and i think "wow, A2 steel's the bomb when given the right heat tr- ...wait, that's one of the VG10 ones".
Hi! As a swede i did not take an offense if he tried to impersonate a swede. Good prenounciation on Fällkniven. A stands for Arme' as in army and L for lång as in long. S stands for Skogs as in wood/bushcraft. An last F stands for Flygare as in Aircrew. This was their first knife in this series.
They changed the edge from the beggining it was flat with a coarse V. Changed to flat with a convex edge. Have both, redid the older one to convex, it is not so sharp as the later one. But the edge will be more sturdy. I hope this will help You a little.
@@dmg4415 oh cool! nice one Dan - interesting and helpful.
I just can't get past the price here in the US. When a NL3 is $400 right now and I just picked up a Bark River Bravo II in 3V for $280, it's hard not to wonder.
Both are great convex grinds from companies that build top tier survival knives, one just costs a third less with premium steel.
Nice to see the immortal Cedric!
That shirt is perfect
New coating on folding models?( thought you said they made a folder) DOIRRR! BOINGGG!!!
That Obi Wan quote was masterful.
The closet one to being a “value” I have seen is the basic F1 with leather sheath for a bit over $100. In a bigger knife I would rather either carbon steel or maybe N690 or a well done D2 in a less expensive knife than the large Fallkniven’s.
Great info here. The Elmax they are using now is getting good reviews. I’m curious of your thoughts. ✌🏼
I believe the strongest competitor for Fallkniven is Bark River. Its knives are better off substitutes in most cases.
Fallkniven is expensive because the company does not really make the knives...they just design it and order some Japanese company to manufacture it...the combination of all the costs and the profits for these companies and the retail chain reflects the final price...does not necessary mean the knives worths that much...
That accent, it's like I was really there...
Great video, though. If I didn't already own a S1 Pro I'd go out and get one.
Thinking about getting the Black S1X and gifting it to my son when he comes of age in 20 years or so.
Sent in my damaged Buck folder no receipt. Got my choice of replacement as it was TWENTY years old and they did not make it anymore! That folder would gut and skin out a deer without sharpening.
i have the a1xb and love it
I’m curious what happens if the handle material is damaged, is it user replaceable ?
Witch one? The kraton handles can be sent in to Fallkniven and they send them to Japan for new handle. I would think it's true to thermorun. For the X-series i cant se why not it wouldn't be replaceble buy the user. Hope that helps
great video I actually do agree about the price of the knife itself I don't really think it is worth the money to actually purchase a knife with that blade Steel in that configuration however I'm actually going to be ordering a1x soon just for the sake of having a fallkniven
i got some 3g and lam cos,i like it very much
I love the ''super'' intro.
I have the A1 and put it trough some hard task, batoning thick hard logs : not a problem. Did the same with a Ontario BK9 and the edge/bevel came back all wavy ~~ on a 2 cm spot (the steel actually conformed to the shape of the wood fibers, permanently: too soft 1095? ). Anyways, fallkniven are good knives. Major downside is their prices that go high very quickly.
Blows my mind but, people have it in their minds that 1095 is a “tough” steel, and it’s not that tough haha, many tougher steels out there, they just use it because it’s cheap. Plus your A1 is laminated making the blade more robust.
You did a test with the Bark river bravo 1lt in 3v and it did 198 cuts. Here the Fällkniven lam cos did 270 cuts. Was it a different rope or...? I thought the 3v was supposed to be superior in edge retension compared to the lam cos!!??
@ 6:26 LOOK AT THE GRAIN ON THAT WOOD! Is that stuff suitable for wood working, because it must look freaking gorgeous cleaned up.
I have the F1 with 3G steel. How much better is it than the standard steel?
Intro was hilarious
I haven't owned a fallkniven, but if i was going to spend that much money on an outdoor, heavier style fixed blade i think i would go for another maker. Bark river springs to mind
@@MrJedi5150 Where exactly do they excel in your experience? for comparable prices you can buy knives with more varied design, higher quality steels and handle materials and even fully custom knives in some cases. So what converted you?
Question for you. What can you tell me about Fallknivens laminated COS steel vs. CPM 3V? In toughness and edge holding.
I think edge holding is slightly better in CPM 3v but the toughness is better on COS. I have seen bark river knives with 3v easly chip if there is dust on the logs while battoning. Also you need to keep your bark river knives olied for avoiding corrosion
"So you want the F1, the F1x, or the F1 Pro?"
"Yes"
@@griff7749 If I would get another F1 it would be the 3G version. But given Falliknivens rather unappealing price policy, that's not very likely to happen.
Excuse me, I suddenly need to go play more fire emblem.
p.s. That bowie looks amazing!
I have an A1. Best survival knife? Bradford Guardian 6 in M390. Mate, I'm waiting for your comparative review. :-) Notably: better steel, well-placed big choil (vs no choil on Fallknivens), better price.