My brother in Christ... Get the CCNA if you like networking. Network engineers are the plumbers of the tech world. EVERYBODY needs them. It is a great path to get OFF the help desk!
Networking is still a valid career. Data centers, large companies and even smaller companies that have remote locations need network engineers to configure their routers, switches, VLANs, etc. Not everyone wants to be a programmer and a lot of people hate it and/or suck at coding. Things like networking or DBA work use very different skills and require a different perspective than programming. Setting up and troubleshooting routers and WAN links between a dozen different remote sites and getting all the networking (routing, DNS, DHCP, default gateways, firewalls, VPNs, etc) working and reliable can be quite fun. For modern networking careers you'll need to obviously understand a lot about networking but you'll also need to have an understanding of things like Microsoft Active Directory, security (firewalls, intrusion detection & prevention, etc) cloud networking integration (AWS and/or Azure) and should have at least basic knowledge of Windows and Linux operation systems (like how to setup & troubleshoot their networking). Id suggest getting multiple different certifications. Get a couple of certifications that have to do with networking specifically (such as CCNA), get one that covers Microsoft Active Directory and I'd also suggest getting a cloud networking certification.
This is the truth, you have to look what the job wants like NOC, Network Admin, Network Analyst, Network Support, etc and work backwards A+, Net+ isnt enough Ccna is good but it isnt enough either The jobs literally will tell you in your area if they want like Azure or AWS and having the skills for it matters so THOSE matter.
What the hell does he mean the CCNA won’t transfer well if they have Juniper. You go in knowing 90% and have to learn the difference in some CLI stuff but that’s it. This video has some bad advice.
Net+, A+ crap will get you $16-22/hr. This will get you into a help desk. A CCNA will get you $30-40. Vendor specific certs will get you bank. Vendor neutral certs will take you to the public food bank, the IT equivalent of fast food. I should have gotten my CCNA sooner. I didn't because I listened to this guy.
6:10 I got my CCNA in 2000 and CCNP in 2001. I'm not smart or rich but I know which way the wind is blowing and it's worked out well for me. I jumped on the Cisco bandwagon 20 years ago in around 2009 I jumped on the Nexus 2K/5K/7K bandwagon then in 2014 I moved into interworking the legacy world into Azure, AWS, Bluemix etc. Both AWS and Azure are becoming much more sophisticated with their networking capability (Azure vWAN and AWS Transit Gateway), I'm thinking that my next move might be off the interface between onprem and the Cloud and into pure networking within the hyperscalers.
Please - for the love of god - if you don't like or don't want to do programming THEN DON'T. Do not let anyone talk you into being a programmer if you don't enjoy programming. Software development is one of if not the hardest thing to learn and be good at. Being a Physics professor or rocket scientist would be easier. As least in complex subjects like physics, being a lawyer or brain surgery everything you learn to become that remains. In software development 90% of everything you know today will be mostly irrelevant in 10 years and you'll have to re-learn everything continuously. Its very hard to be good at programming. If you don't enjoy it you won't be good at it and then you'll end up being interviewed by someone like me or even worse somehow end up reporting to someone like me and if you suck at programming we won't be nice and show you mercy. A single bad programmer on a project can make a mess of the whole thing. If you don't want to be a programmer don't do it.
Daily blob you always keep telling us how it was back in the day we want to know what's going on now , also for coding , is automation enough or the data structures and algorithms are a must too ?
While true alot of work is going into the cloud, there are still many jobs with big companies that require IT people to manage their on-prem servers, machines and equipment. CCNA is still good, networking is huge! The best programmers understand basic networking to a high degree.
Times have certainly changed. I remember back in the day when the CCNA was the gold standard. I used to do network engineering / architecture (mostly with Ciscos) and people who had one told me it was very hard to pass. Admittedly this was the 90s and a LOT has changed. Cisco used to be the only real choice for great routers then too and that has changed.
I saw the same thing. Mid 1990s, CCNA was VERY big, but declined over time. I think one of the changes is that once Cisco routers and other routers were 'all over the place', it was not such a big deal since everyone came into contact with a router and doing configuration on them. I think also over time a lot of the configurations become more standard or automatic, especially small business or home use; just take the router out of the box, plug it in, and use. I remember in 1998 one of the 'big' upgrades at a publically traded company was that they were increasing the RAM in their Cisco routers from 4MB to 8MB so it could process traffic better by allowing a larger routing table in memory for each unit.
Another factor is that bandwidth availability has exploded faster than applications could keep up with it. Back in the 90s the network was a significant bottleneck and performance was a major issue. Routers had to be very clever and complex with QoS policies like prioritisation and traffic shaping to squeeze every last drop out of tiny links. Now 100Gbps is becoming the default uplink speed we can solve most problems by just throwing bandwidth at it. I've been deploying 10Gbps since about 2007 and im yet to see a problem with congestion in 10Gbps land never mind 100Gbps land. This means the network can be 'fixed' a lot quicker by throwing some hardware at it, and once its 'fixed' you can probably forget about it for 5-10 years instead of the 2-3 year upgrade cycles we were all chasing our tails with back in the day.
@@Tech-49 One things that I do wonder about, at what point is most of the speeds going to household going to really be mostly used. As an example, the local ISP, that is town run has speeds of 100/5, 150/10 and 300/15 (download/upload in Mbps) plus fiber is coming online this summer 150/150, 250/250 and 1GB/1GB. I upgraded from 10/5 to 300/15 but found that 'nothing seemed faster over the line' so I did a few tests. While having all kinds of devices on I ran an online game, streamed video, etc. I found my computer was only really using or pulling 20/2 or 20/3, so having extra speed to the house was doing nothing. It systems that internet wide there is a lot that needs to be done so people can use and benefits from all the extra line speeds.
@@thecompetentman5384 yeah 20/3 sounds like HD streaming maybe some gaming, to get the benefit of anything over 50 you really need to be uploading and downloading large files. Applications like maybe syncing large local libraries of media photos etc to an offsite location. Downloading Linux Distros and other completely legal large files using torrents or newsgroups. Uploading large video files to CZcams like our friend Eli does once every 2 weeks. Downloading large game updates. If you are doing interactive stuff like browsing you are not going to benefit much from speeds greater than 50/10 to benefit from higher speeds you really need to be doing something that involves large file transfers
Coding is not that bad, once you learn the logic and the functions of one language, you will learn how ALL languages work. Start off with C++, you will learn other languages easily.
A common misconception is just get ccna = job. You can skip helpdesk but you have to work backwards and get a mid level job like NOC, Network Admin, Network Analyst, etc The reality is ccna + whatever your area whats for the job you wants (technical). Ex. AWS, Azure, Python, Linux (Rhcsa), Vmware, etc A lot of IT is becoming Cloud based. Somrthing like ccna w/ AWS + Azure or AWS + Azure alone
CCNA may or may not be the best network cert to get too. I'm not familiar with the CompTIA Network+ but maybe that is a good choice. But if starting out you would want one to show that you understand all of the networking concepts (brand of gear does not really matter). Plus, frankly, if you're brand new you don't know what you don't know so being forced to study for all the areas a certification may test you on forces you to learn those concepts. IMHO the individual tests for these certifications are only like $300. If i was starting out from scratch I'd buy study guides for and take as many certification exams as I could. Show up with 5-8 different certifications covering an array of over-lapping subjects and not only will that show you have at least a basic understanding it will also show you have motivation and drive. One thing to remember about the cloud. The cloud isn't magic, the cloud is driven by large data centers. There are people working at AWS, Azure, Google and Oracle data centers doing all the same things that people used to do in typical businesses (networking, server racks, SAN storage, etc). If that type of work really interests a person - its still being done its just done in more concentrated places.
@@Me__Myself__and__I the CCNA is the best well rounded stating off cert for networking *Literally 85% of internet traffic goes through cisco* and other certs copy it. Net+ is entry level, CCNA is n Cert chasing is useless because most people get side step certs and most certs arent lab based like the rhcsa. *The point of a cert is to get you an interview* The point of an interview is to show your willing and able to get the job done. A misconception is its hard to get into IT, it is if you do the thing everyone else does Literally most people do this A+, Net+, then MAYBE ccna or Microsoft,, then Linux+ then like Sec+ This pathways is a waste of time and money. A ccna + whatever your area wants, + labs (you need labs), and skills (like active directory, Linux admin, virtualization, or can you learn internal tools quickly and how?") . Its especially true to security and cloud or design or devops. People think a magical degreee or cert will get them a cloud engineer or incident reporter job meanwhile they literally dont know shit like a mac addrress or vlan or how to configure an ip address.
@@kingplutoxiao1 But you're thinking like someone who already knows IT. A brand new person who does not have IT skills or knowledge doesn't even have a clue what they need to learn. These people will be doing self-study, but how do they know what to study or in what order? They don't. Honestly the best reason for studying and earning certifications as a brand new person is that they provide a framework in which to learn along with milestones and goals. From that perspective starting with something very simple like A+ or Net+ is very useful if they have no existing knowledge. Even if an A+ cert is basically useless for getting an interview, it can be very useful as a first step to get the person on the right track and provide a fairly easy first goal they can achieve. Trying to jump into studying for a CCNA when you don't even understand basic computer, systems and networking concepts would likely be very ineffective.
@@Me__Myself__and__I and Net+ are paperweights. *Literally it comes down to knowing to what the industry wants and needs and working backwards. Ive seen too many people time and time again in the last two years no experience in 6-9 months first job is not entry level at all no degree* Someone brand new could study the material for A+ and Net+ but literally having them in 3 weeks tops. Having those on your resume hurts you a lot. Having a CCNA does not These certs are expensive. Spending a 1k on those to hope to get some tech support job at best at 17 an hour is illogical and a waste of time. If they do ccna + whatever the industry around them wants 1. They stand out 2. Its faster 3. Its cheaper This is why people get stuck in helldesk for many years as well. People think they have to do helldesk or field support for "experience" which literally wont help them at all. Your first real job should be around networking so 1. Network/System Admin 2. NOC Tech/Engineer 3. Network Support Tech 4. Network Analyst 45-60k (or sometimes higher) After that it depends what do you want to do next? Security? Cloud? Design? Data center? Etc Those jobs literally tell you want they want. Especially if you reach out to recruiters and senior level. This is why a company i talked to literally i talk to regularly is waiting for me (im switching companies). They literally told me "yes linux, AD, and mysql" It comes down to aligning yourself to the wants and needs of the industry not literally doing what most people do. Here's also myth "Its harder now to get into IT especially since rona", its literally the opposite its EASIER to stand out now. Why Because literally more than ever its A+, Net+, Linux+, Sec+ and occasionaly ccna EVERYWHERE Literally people arent doing Ccna + azure, aws, rhcsa, python, vmware, etc at all. Having 2-3 certs, labs, and showing your ability and will gets you jobs. Not cert chasing .
@@kingplutoxiao1 1) Obviously CCNA isn't that great because Eli relates it to a roll of toilet paper. 2) You're still COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT. Someone with zero networking experience is going to have one hell of a time learning the CCNA. They aren't ready. They need SIMPLE, BASIC networking stuff before they can move on to more complex networking stuff. 3) I said someone brand new should use things like A+ and Net+ to LEARN. Basically as a structured study system to get them started. I never even said they had to put them on their resume. You're very much over simplifying and being unrealistic. Most people interested in an IT career who don't have any experience can't just jump straight into something like a CCNA. They need easier stuff first. Plus, they may find doing the easier / more generic things that they don't like networking and get an idea for something else they would prefer.
"Learn coding because everything is in the cloud now! No need for hardware" Except the cloud is just a cluster of hardware (servers) and networks. Guess which certification gives you a great foundation on networking? CCNA. Network+ is just a vocabulary test for middle schoolers. However, anyone should know some coding in at least python to make things so much easier.
I mean you could make money swapping hard drives, installing servers, and desktop support… if 15 to 20 dollars an hour is your goal. If you want to make the big bucks, learn to code!
But people aren't going to make the "big bucks" unless they are GOOD at coding. And most people won't be. Most people aren't cut out to code and would hate the job. That matters. Its better to make $70k+ a year doing a job you like and are good at than trying to get into something that could pay $100k+ a year that you're not good at and don't like.
@@Me__Myself__and__I totally agree. I make 70k and don’t code. My ADHD riddle mind does not make a good coder, and unlike barnacluese I do not do good on alderal. Luckily I’m good at figuring out issues with windows and windows servers on the fly, and have had exposure to managing and implementing a number of phone systems, networking devices, and online accounts. I’m pretty luck to be in my position, but I can tell you when it comes to IT at my company, I am it and their is no plans on getting someone under me to help out. Most things work and when they don’t it doesn’t take a hole lot of time to fix them. I will agree with Eli the regular IT support is a dying field and any young people wanting to get into IT needs to code.
CCNA is dead. The only options are Cloud, programming, cyber security or 1st line IT support. Configuring large networks is no longer needed. Cloud has replaced many jobs when it comes to IT infrastructure. Times have changed, we're now in 2022, not 2012.
@@yg78t76t7 I've done the CCNA and it is not needed for cloud. I'm currently working on AWS and using many of the cloud services on there and none of my CCNA skills are needed for it. I get it, it's hard to let go of something you spent ages learning, but the CCNA is not needed.
This is so unbelievably false. If anything networks are getting more complex. We need network engineers now more than ever but you have to know some VMware, know some coding like maybe json apis but by no means is networking “no longer needed” That is absurd
This guy has imposter's syndrome and he even't started his journey oh boy he is in for a hard time. Coding is hard if you don't know the basics start with pseudo language and study Data structures and algos before jumping to JS javascript is hard because he don't even make sense i mean his creator made it in 10days i can't even find a missing pair of socks in 10days
My brother in Christ... Get the CCNA if you like networking. Network engineers are the plumbers of the tech world. EVERYBODY needs them. It is a great path to get OFF the help desk!
Plumbers of tech is exactly what I was thinking.
Networking is still a valid career. Data centers, large companies and even smaller companies that have remote locations need network engineers to configure their routers, switches, VLANs, etc. Not everyone wants to be a programmer and a lot of people hate it and/or suck at coding. Things like networking or DBA work use very different skills and require a different perspective than programming. Setting up and troubleshooting routers and WAN links between a dozen different remote sites and getting all the networking (routing, DNS, DHCP, default gateways, firewalls, VPNs, etc) working and reliable can be quite fun. For modern networking careers you'll need to obviously understand a lot about networking but you'll also need to have an understanding of things like Microsoft Active Directory, security (firewalls, intrusion detection & prevention, etc) cloud networking integration (AWS and/or Azure) and should have at least basic knowledge of Windows and Linux operation systems (like how to setup & troubleshoot their networking). Id suggest getting multiple different certifications. Get a couple of certifications that have to do with networking specifically (such as CCNA), get one that covers Microsoft Active Directory and I'd also suggest getting a cloud networking certification.
This is the truth, you have to look what the job wants like NOC, Network Admin, Network Analyst, Network Support, etc and work backwards
A+, Net+ isnt enough
Ccna is good but it isnt enough either
The jobs literally will tell you in your area if they want like Azure or AWS and having the skills for it matters so THOSE matter.
What the hell does he mean the CCNA won’t transfer well if they have Juniper. You go in knowing 90% and have to learn the difference in some CLI stuff but that’s it. This video has some bad advice.
Great questions from the dude. thanks for the video, great food for thought!
Net+, A+ crap will get you $16-22/hr. This will get you into a help desk.
A CCNA will get you $30-40.
Vendor specific certs will get you bank. Vendor neutral certs will take you to the public food bank, the IT equivalent of fast food.
I should have gotten my CCNA sooner. I didn't because I listened to this guy.
Depending on the area, CCNA can pay you much more...
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Based comment.
People who crap on continuing education strike me as extremely narcissistic.
6:10 I got my CCNA in 2000 and CCNP in 2001. I'm not smart or rich but I know which way the wind is blowing and it's worked out well for me. I jumped on the Cisco bandwagon 20 years ago in around 2009 I jumped on the Nexus 2K/5K/7K bandwagon then in 2014 I moved into interworking the legacy world into Azure, AWS, Bluemix etc.
Both AWS and Azure are becoming much more sophisticated with their networking capability (Azure vWAN and AWS Transit Gateway), I'm thinking that my next move might be off the interface between onprem and the Cloud and into pure networking within the hyperscalers.
Man that’s so overwhelming to read as a person who is pursuit of their CCNA. So much tech to learn
@@chadwicktyrone8894 Read my top level comment about a networking career.
Awesome video man!!! So you recommend to learn code? I been in help desk for few years already.
What languages do you recommend someone should learn?
Please - for the love of god - if you don't like or don't want to do programming THEN DON'T. Do not let anyone talk you into being a programmer if you don't enjoy programming. Software development is one of if not the hardest thing to learn and be good at. Being a Physics professor or rocket scientist would be easier. As least in complex subjects like physics, being a lawyer or brain surgery everything you learn to become that remains. In software development 90% of everything you know today will be mostly irrelevant in 10 years and you'll have to re-learn everything continuously. Its very hard to be good at programming. If you don't enjoy it you won't be good at it and then you'll end up being interviewed by someone like me or even worse somehow end up reporting to someone like me and if you suck at programming we won't be nice and show you mercy. A single bad programmer on a project can make a mess of the whole thing. If you don't want to be a programmer don't do it.
Daily blob you always keep telling us how it was back in the day we want to know what's going on now , also for coding , is automation enough or the data structures and algorithms are a must too ?
While true alot of work is going into the cloud, there are still many jobs with big companies that require IT people to manage their on-prem servers, machines and equipment. CCNA is still good, networking is huge! The best programmers understand basic networking to a high degree.
The question is do those jobs pay enough and how much longer will they last?
Times have certainly changed. I remember back in the day when the CCNA was the gold standard. I used to do network engineering / architecture (mostly with Ciscos) and people who had one told me it was very hard to pass. Admittedly this was the 90s and a LOT has changed. Cisco used to be the only real choice for great routers then too and that has changed.
I saw the same thing. Mid 1990s, CCNA was VERY big, but declined over time. I think one of the changes is that once Cisco routers and other routers were 'all over the place', it was not such a big deal since everyone came into contact with a router and doing configuration on them. I think also over time a lot of the configurations become more standard or automatic, especially small business or home use; just take the router out of the box, plug it in, and use.
I remember in 1998 one of the 'big' upgrades at a publically traded company was that they were increasing the RAM in their Cisco routers from 4MB to 8MB so it could process traffic better by allowing a larger routing table in memory for each unit.
Another factor is that bandwidth availability has exploded faster than applications could keep up with it. Back in the 90s the network was a significant bottleneck and performance was a major issue. Routers had to be very clever and complex with QoS policies like prioritisation and traffic shaping to squeeze every last drop out of tiny links.
Now 100Gbps is becoming the default uplink speed we can solve most problems by just throwing bandwidth at it. I've been deploying 10Gbps since about 2007 and im yet to see a problem with congestion in 10Gbps land never mind 100Gbps land.
This means the network can be 'fixed' a lot quicker by throwing some hardware at it, and once its 'fixed' you can probably forget about it for 5-10 years instead of the 2-3 year upgrade cycles we were all chasing our tails with back in the day.
@@Tech-49 One things that I do wonder about, at what point is most of the speeds going to household going to really be mostly used. As an example, the local ISP, that is town run has speeds of 100/5, 150/10 and 300/15 (download/upload in Mbps) plus fiber is coming online this summer 150/150, 250/250 and 1GB/1GB. I upgraded from 10/5 to 300/15 but found that 'nothing seemed faster over the line' so I did a few tests. While having all kinds of devices on I ran an online game, streamed video, etc. I found my computer was only really using or pulling 20/2 or 20/3, so having extra speed to the house was doing nothing. It systems that internet wide there is a lot that needs to be done so people can use and benefits from all the extra line speeds.
@@thecompetentman5384 yeah 20/3 sounds like HD streaming maybe some gaming, to get the benefit of anything over 50 you really need to be uploading and downloading large files.
Applications like maybe syncing large local libraries of media photos etc to an offsite location. Downloading Linux Distros and other completely legal large files using torrents or newsgroups. Uploading large video files to CZcams like our friend Eli does once every 2 weeks. Downloading large game updates.
If you are doing interactive stuff like browsing you are not going to benefit much from speeds greater than 50/10 to benefit from higher speeds you really need to be doing something that involves large file transfers
Get a job at an MSP. Your Cisco, Fortinet, Palo Alto, Juniper certs will matter at an MSP.
Google Launchcode. This and Harvard's CS50 is ground zero.
What coding languages do you recommend for Mac? And also is C sharp slang for c ++ or is it a different language?
they are different mate! C sharp and c++ are not related, well they both came from C but that is it.
You want Apple Swift or Objective-C if you want to be in the Apple ecosystem
Coding is not that bad, once you learn the logic and the functions of one language, you will learn how ALL languages work. Start off with C++, you will learn other languages easily.
What if you just don’t want to learn coding and classic it is irrelevant? What can you do?
A common misconception is just get ccna = job. You can skip helpdesk but you have to work backwards and get a mid level job like NOC, Network Admin, Network Analyst, etc
The reality is ccna + whatever your area whats for the job you wants (technical).
Ex.
AWS, Azure, Python, Linux (Rhcsa), Vmware, etc
A lot of IT is becoming Cloud based. Somrthing like ccna w/ AWS + Azure or AWS + Azure alone
CCNA may or may not be the best network cert to get too. I'm not familiar with the CompTIA Network+ but maybe that is a good choice. But if starting out you would want one to show that you understand all of the networking concepts (brand of gear does not really matter). Plus, frankly, if you're brand new you don't know what you don't know so being forced to study for all the areas a certification may test you on forces you to learn those concepts. IMHO the individual tests for these certifications are only like $300. If i was starting out from scratch I'd buy study guides for and take as many certification exams as I could. Show up with 5-8 different certifications covering an array of over-lapping subjects and not only will that show you have at least a basic understanding it will also show you have motivation and drive.
One thing to remember about the cloud. The cloud isn't magic, the cloud is driven by large data centers. There are people working at AWS, Azure, Google and Oracle data centers doing all the same things that people used to do in typical businesses (networking, server racks, SAN storage, etc). If that type of work really interests a person - its still being done its just done in more concentrated places.
@@Me__Myself__and__I the CCNA is the best well rounded stating off cert for networking
*Literally 85% of internet traffic goes through cisco* and other certs copy it. Net+ is entry level, CCNA is n
Cert chasing is useless because most people get side step certs and most certs arent lab based like the rhcsa.
*The point of a cert is to get you an interview*
The point of an interview is to show your willing and able to get the job done.
A misconception is its hard to get into IT, it is if you do the thing everyone else does
Literally most people do this
A+, Net+, then MAYBE ccna or Microsoft,, then Linux+ then like Sec+
This pathways is a waste of time and money.
A ccna + whatever your area wants, + labs (you need labs), and skills (like active directory, Linux admin, virtualization, or can you learn internal tools quickly and how?") .
Its especially true to security and cloud or design or devops. People think a magical degreee or cert will get them a cloud engineer or incident reporter job meanwhile they literally dont know shit like a mac addrress or vlan or how to configure an ip address.
@@kingplutoxiao1 But you're thinking like someone who already knows IT. A brand new person who does not have IT skills or knowledge doesn't even have a clue what they need to learn. These people will be doing self-study, but how do they know what to study or in what order? They don't. Honestly the best reason for studying and earning certifications as a brand new person is that they provide a framework in which to learn along with milestones and goals. From that perspective starting with something very simple like A+ or Net+ is very useful if they have no existing knowledge. Even if an A+ cert is basically useless for getting an interview, it can be very useful as a first step to get the person on the right track and provide a fairly easy first goal they can achieve. Trying to jump into studying for a CCNA when you don't even understand basic computer, systems and networking concepts would likely be very ineffective.
@@Me__Myself__and__I and Net+ are paperweights.
*Literally it comes down to knowing to what the industry wants and needs and working backwards. Ive seen too many people time and time again in the last two years no experience in 6-9 months first job is not entry level at all no degree*
Someone brand new could study the material for A+ and Net+ but literally having them in 3 weeks tops. Having those on your resume hurts you a lot. Having a CCNA does not
These certs are expensive. Spending a 1k on those to hope to get some tech support job at best at 17 an hour is illogical and a waste of time.
If they do ccna + whatever the industry around them wants
1. They stand out
2. Its faster
3. Its cheaper
This is why people get stuck in helldesk for many years as well.
People think they have to do helldesk or field support for "experience" which literally wont help them at all.
Your first real job should be around networking so
1. Network/System Admin
2. NOC Tech/Engineer
3. Network Support Tech
4. Network Analyst
45-60k (or sometimes higher)
After that it depends what do you want to do next? Security? Cloud? Design? Data center? Etc
Those jobs literally tell you want they want. Especially if you reach out to recruiters and senior level. This is why a company i talked to literally i talk to regularly is waiting for me (im switching companies).
They literally told me "yes linux, AD, and mysql"
It comes down to aligning yourself to the wants and needs of the industry not literally doing what most people do.
Here's also myth
"Its harder now to get into IT especially since rona", its literally the opposite its EASIER to stand out now. Why Because literally more than ever its A+, Net+, Linux+, Sec+ and occasionaly ccna EVERYWHERE
Literally people arent doing
Ccna + azure, aws, rhcsa, python, vmware, etc at all.
Having 2-3 certs, labs, and showing your ability and will gets you jobs. Not cert chasing .
@@kingplutoxiao1 1) Obviously CCNA isn't that great because Eli relates it to a roll of toilet paper.
2) You're still COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT. Someone with zero networking experience is going to have one hell of a time learning the CCNA. They aren't ready. They need SIMPLE, BASIC networking stuff before they can move on to more complex networking stuff.
3) I said someone brand new should use things like A+ and Net+ to LEARN. Basically as a structured study system to get them started. I never even said they had to put them on their resume.
You're very much over simplifying and being unrealistic. Most people interested in an IT career who don't have any experience can't just jump straight into something like a CCNA. They need easier stuff first. Plus, they may find doing the easier / more generic things that they don't like networking and get an idea for something else they would prefer.
What does a ccna cover in terms of virtual networking and zero trust?/
"Learn coding because everything is in the cloud now! No need for hardware"
Except the cloud is just a cluster of hardware (servers) and networks. Guess which certification gives you a great foundation on networking? CCNA. Network+ is just a vocabulary test for middle schoolers.
However, anyone should know some coding in at least python to make things so much easier.
Classic
I mean you could make money swapping hard drives, installing servers, and desktop support… if 15 to 20 dollars an hour is your goal. If you want to make the big bucks, learn to code!
I’d love $20 an hour now but I’d get tired of it when inflation catches up like it did when I got bumped to $15.
But people aren't going to make the "big bucks" unless they are GOOD at coding. And most people won't be. Most people aren't cut out to code and would hate the job. That matters. Its better to make $70k+ a year doing a job you like and are good at than trying to get into something that could pay $100k+ a year that you're not good at and don't like.
@@Me__Myself__and__I totally agree. I make 70k and don’t code. My ADHD riddle mind does not make a good coder, and unlike barnacluese I do not do good on alderal. Luckily I’m good at figuring out issues with windows and windows servers on the fly, and have had exposure to managing and implementing a number of phone systems, networking devices, and online accounts. I’m pretty luck to be in my position, but I can tell you when it comes to IT at my company, I am it and their is no plans on getting someone under me to help out. Most things work and when they don’t it doesn’t take a hole lot of time to fix them. I will agree with Eli the regular IT support is a dying field and any young people wanting to get into IT needs to code.
@@Me__Myself__and__I the only thing I really like is writing and it doesn’t even pay $30k a year let alone $70k
CCNA is dead. The only options are Cloud, programming, cyber security or 1st line IT support. Configuring large networks is no longer needed. Cloud has replaced many jobs when it comes to IT infrastructure. Times have changed, we're now in 2022, not 2012.
Do you even know what cloud is?
No one is gonna hire you as a cloud or cyber security engineer if you have no idea of how networks work, and the best cert for networking is CCNA.
@@yg78t76t7 thats a fact!
@@yg78t76t7 I've done the CCNA and it is not needed for cloud. I'm currently working on AWS and using many of the cloud services on there and none of my CCNA skills are needed for it. I get it, it's hard to let go of something you spent ages learning, but the CCNA is not needed.
This is so unbelievably false. If anything networks are getting more complex. We need network engineers now more than ever but you have to know some VMware, know some coding like maybe json apis but by no means is networking “no longer needed”
That is absurd
This guy has imposter's syndrome and he even't started his journey oh boy he is in for a hard time. Coding is hard if you don't know the basics start with pseudo language and study Data structures and algos before jumping to JS javascript is hard because he don't even make sense i mean his creator made it in 10days i can't even find a missing pair of socks in 10days
What do you mean by "imposters syndrome"? He's just asking questions.