How to Hike a High Route | Transitioning to Off-Trail Backpacking

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  • čas přidán 12. 01. 2022
  • Want to take a guided trip with me? I work as a backpacking guide in Yosemite and this August I am offering a 4-day guided high route in the park. If you're interested, check out the link below to learn more!
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    Have you ever had the itch to explore off-trail when hiking or backpacking? Maybe you've done the JMT or PCT and want to try the Sierra High Route but don't know how to prepare. In this video I lay out the skills needed to hike a high route and give you some tips on how to develop them.
    My high route videos:
    Super Sierra High Route - • SUPER SIERRA HIGH ROUT...
    Wind River High Route - • WIND RIVER HIGH ROUTE ...
    Navigation resources:
    Skurka navigation vids:
    • Learn Map & Compass wi...
    • Learn Map & Compass wi...
    Another good one from REI:
    • How to Use a Compass |...
    My most recent gear list video:
    • Ultralight Backpacking...

Komentáře • 65

  • @BigDoeJ424
    @BigDoeJ424 Před rokem +6

    One element you should have included is that you generally are only doing about ~40-60% of millage per day, compared to hiking on-trail for the same amount of hours/effort

  • @OutOnTrail
    @OutOnTrail Před 2 lety +20

    You packed a lot of information into 11 minutes and presented it in a way that was clear and easy to understand ... Nice to see some "in the field" examples of the concepts you're discussing, also 👍

  • @eaferstl
    @eaferstl Před 2 lety +8

    You seriously deserve more subs! No one else posts such unique adventures along with extremely relevant information. You’re the 🐐

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety +1

      Aw thanks. Glad you have enjoyed the videos!

    • @csn583
      @csn583 Před rokem

      Mountain 🐐!

  • @rmoran113
    @rmoran113 Před rokem

    Did Alan’s high route few years back…most incredible,ass kicking trip!! Headed back Wednesday to do skurka’s route….can’t wait! Bringing my dog so plan to take extra slow….. 10 day food carry gonna be a bitch…most dogs I would never attempt but bring a malinois who’s a hiking, climbing machine think he’s definitely prepared.

  • @csn583
    @csn583 Před rokem

    YHR North Loop this August, let's go! I'll be re-re-watching this one a few more times. Love a scramble but never spent full days off-trail with mileage to hit. Living in the Santa Cruz mountains for a decade I often still struggle to understand what I'm looking at from a viewpoint, so getting to know my own neighborhood with topo maps will be good practice.
    Considering Vivobarefoot Magna boots instead of my usual Merrell Trail Gloves so I won't constantly be cleaning out my shoes, even with gaiters, plus some water resistance. Gonna be a high-water year! 🏞️

  • @farbeyonddriven8173
    @farbeyonddriven8173 Před 13 dny

    Great job

  • @aspenadams
    @aspenadams Před 2 lety

    Awesome! Thanks for making this. It was super helpful

  • @ervinslens
    @ervinslens Před 2 lety

    Great work man, beautiful video.

  • @erichobbs4042
    @erichobbs4042 Před 10 měsíci

    Due to the difficulty of being able to put together a full through hike on the PCT (time,fires, permit lottery etc) I've been considering the Sierra High Route. I did the JMT about 10 years ago, and I think that it would be cool to do the high route version of this. Thanks for making this video, because it answered a lot of questions for me. I'm going to have to get out and do a bit more rock climbing before next summer to feel comfortable, but luckily I have some pretty decent climbing around me.

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Awesome, glad the video was helpful. If you already have rock climbing experience, I wouldn’t prioritize that in your training. Anything on the high route is easy compared to real climbing. I’d recommend doing plenty of training with a pack, preferably on steep uneven terrain.

  • @artistic-off-road
    @artistic-off-road Před 10 měsíci

    Clicked on this for the scenery, but wasn't expecting to actually learn something. ;) The topo descriptions are really helpful. Keep trekking!

  • @wanderingoutyonder
    @wanderingoutyonder Před 2 lety

    Very nice! Thank you for sharing!

  • @hiketheworld81
    @hiketheworld81 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Dan, such well thought out content. Another good way to practice compass navigation no matter where you are is to search for local orienteering events. Within 1-2 events you will get much more comfortable with a compass.

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      Great suggestion. That's something I've always wanted to do but haven't gotten around to it yet.

  • @livingbythebeach6904
    @livingbythebeach6904 Před 2 lety

    The hiking tour is so enjoyable…Well captured!😀

  • @whistlepig
    @whistlepig Před 8 měsíci

    I love this. It takes some creativity and will power to put a trip like this together, not to mention to execute it! Well done.

  • @IdRatherBeHiking
    @IdRatherBeHiking Před 2 lety

    Some great info here Dan.

  • @stephenmetzler3868
    @stephenmetzler3868 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @richardmarquardt6246
    @richardmarquardt6246 Před 2 lety +1

    Great overview. Most of those skills, as you mentioned, can and should be used on trail hiking. Especially, if you end up having to leave or can't follow the trail due to snow, blowdowns, fires, emergencies etc.

  • @HikingNerd
    @HikingNerd Před 2 lety

    Well produced video Dan, nice job!

  • @peterwinkler5884
    @peterwinkler5884 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this video, Dan! Your SSHR video inspired me to do the section from Tuolumne to Whitney this upcoming summer and these tips makes me feel a lot more confident. Also very well made, as always!

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      That should be an amazing trip! Glad the video was helpful

  • @katherinestenziano3208

    Very helpful video, I even know more now:)

  • @jinsjewelry
    @jinsjewelry Před 2 lety

    Defiantly doing it this summer. Thank you for your very helpful video! 😊

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      No problem! Enjoy it and good luck out there.

    • @nedanother9382
      @nedanother9382 Před rokem

      Im wondering if you were able to get the SHR hike done last year? I'm trying to get the first section done this summer ('23). Looking to tag along with someone - trying not to do my first off trail solo. cheers

  • @sethbeiden1305
    @sethbeiden1305 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Dan. Sierra High Route is on the list, not sure when life will allow it but this video with SURELY be watched again when it's closer. Great content as usual.

  • @michaelb1761
    @michaelb1761 Před 2 lety

    Well done. Once I transitioned to off-trail travel a few years ago, I increase the amount of off trail travel every year. It is such a blast (except for boulder/talus hopping). I get a great feeling of accomplishment, especially on a new route that I couldn't find a description for. You showed a couple of places I've been or plan to go to this summer. I have bad memories from Kuna Lake last year as I got sick the day I hiked there and spent the afternoon illegally camped at Kuna Lake in the rain and hail being sick, bad times. Gabbot Pass is part of a planned hike for this summer.

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      That sense of accomplishment and mental engagement is what makes it so fun compared to trails. Love the area around Gabbot Pass and Lake Italy. Enjoy your trip this summer!

  • @briansaucy4871
    @briansaucy4871 Před 2 lety

    Thanks

  • @kristenspaulding7453
    @kristenspaulding7453 Před rokem

    I loved this video so much! I live in Pinedale and I am planning to solo Big Sandy TH to GRL TH next year, then hopefully solo the Wind River Highline the year after! I have done long loops and treks in the winds, but nothing would compare to the Highline. I saw you also did Texas pass! I am assuming you did the loop into the Cirque and out Jackass? One of my favorites! Thank you for making this such an informative video.

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před rokem

      Thanks! Sounds like fun :) I love Pinedale. We went from Green River to Big Sandy and saw the Cirque on our way out via Texas and Jackass.

  • @jakedewald4109
    @jakedewald4109 Před 2 lety

    Love the infomercial feel when you can't read the map then pull out the compass.

  • @ChadLubinski
    @ChadLubinski Před 2 lety

    THIS WAS GREAT!!!

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! 😀

    • @ChadLubinski
      @ChadLubinski Před 2 lety

      @@DanStenziano quick question: how long would you expect it to take someone to complete Skurka's version of the WRHR that has many miles of thru hiking experience but only a bit of off trail experience? For example: it took us all day to go 13 miles with 7,400 ft of vert on the Alpine Lakes High Route.
      I know that's a very specific question but I'm just trying to ballpark my itinerary! Thanks in advance man!

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      @@ChadLubinski 7400 feet of vert in a day is pretty big. I find it hard to do much more than that whether it’s over 15 miles or 30. On Skurkas blog he’s always recommending basing high route mileage on the vertical. The good news is you generally won’t hit 7k vert in such a short distance on the WRHR (definitely not on Dixon, and I don’t think on Skurka but not sure).
      Navigation can also slow you down especially if you haven’t done a ton of off trail. I usually recommend 50% of max on trail mileage as a starting point, but this can vary day to day.
      All that said maybe aim for ~8 days or less?

    • @ChadLubinski
      @ChadLubinski Před 2 lety

      @@DanStenziano exactly what were thinking for days.. thanks dude!!

  • @wellseasonedhiker
    @wellseasonedhiker Před 2 lety

    Kudos for putting together such a concise video on off trail travel. I'd add that high route (cross country hiking) is something you have to try in limited amounts to see if one is even capable. I've trail hiked with some great backpackers who ended up being frightened on loose rock or talus. Off trail isn't for everyone. For avid backpackers considering off trail I suggest adding in a half day of easy off trail backpacking (like Puppet Pass or Shout Of Relief Pass) to really get a sense of whether it's for you before taking in any high route.
    Again, kudos for the great video.

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety +1

      Very true. I still get spooked sometimes on loose rock. It's definitely something to ease into.

    • @wellseasonedhiker
      @wellseasonedhiker Před 2 lety

      @@DanStenziano we all get spooked now and then. Also, as you're aware, exposure is a special thing that takes experience. And even then it's still scary... easing into it is exactly right.
      Again great job on the video. When I think about this topic it's so complex. Covering the basics, well I might add, in 10 min. is an amazing feat.

  • @billjames3148
    @billjames3148 Před rokem

    good common sense video. Glad you did not get off on the gear OMG . I still not sure why people do speed climb and trail travel. I did 20mile in 5 days, why the fishing was great and had time to cook and enjoy it. The Wind River high route is a difficult hike. 10 days if your a speeder or an old fart and do it in 14 with 20 days of food. Again good video.

  • @NhoQue-pj2jt
    @NhoQue-pj2jt Před 2 lety

    So nice video.Thank you for sharing.🙋‍♂️stay connected 💜💜

  • @andyveres3982
    @andyveres3982 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeah boyyyyyy

  • @matthewamedio1786
    @matthewamedio1786 Před 2 lety +1

    Danny!

  • @joez4284
    @joez4284 Před 2 lety

    I'm also in the north-east, Toronto actually. Great suggestion for the Adirondacks. Besides Saddleback - any other peaks you recommend for training?

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 2 lety

      Most if not all of the mountains in the Great Range present some good scrambling opportunities. They're also pretty tough in general, so great for training.

  • @meeskman7410
    @meeskman7410 Před rokem

    Hi Dan, great video! I thought you super sierra video was awesome and that seems like the trip of a lifetime. I wanted to start hiking off trail on high routes and wanted to ask if you knew of any good off-trail routes through the Angeles National Forest/ San Bernardino Mountains (they are not quite as high up as the Sierras, but my local mountain range). More than that though, what tools would you recommend someone use to find these routes?

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před rokem +1

      Hmm, I don’t know of any off hand, and seemingly neither does google or my friend who used to live in LA. You could certainly come up with something, perhaps using areas around the PCT as a starting point and focusing on ridge lines. I think the issue you’d encounter is a lot of trees and brush because of the elevation.
      As far as tools, I would use caltopo to make a route. You can turn on slope angle shading to quickly identify areas that are not steep, and also try to look for areas that are not green on the base map to try and avoid brush.

    • @meeskman7410
      @meeskman7410 Před rokem

      @@DanStenziano Thanks for checking! I'll take a look at caltopo and get out to the Sierras once some more of the snow melts!

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před rokem

      Nice! I saw someone on Instagram do some off trail in golden trout wilderness recently. There’s still snow but it will melt out before the high Sierra and is a little closer to you.

  • @sweetbodhisoul891
    @sweetbodhisoul891 Před 5 měsíci

    Hi Dan! I am wondering about the maps you use, do you make your own using something like CalTopo? Thanks for any info you could provide :)

    • @DanStenziano
      @DanStenziano  Před 5 měsíci +1

      If I’m doing a route I drew up myself then I’ll make maps with caltopo. But if there is a premade set for a route available then I will use that. For each of the routes in this video I bought or downloaded the premade maps

    • @sweetbodhisoul891
      @sweetbodhisoul891 Před 5 měsíci

      thank you! @@DanStenziano

  • @tylerwiessner6891
    @tylerwiessner6891 Před 2 lety

    pepperoni tony wins again