The Original 1980 Tama Bell Brass Snare Drum - DCP Review
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- We demo and share our thoughts on the original 1980 Tama Bell Brass Snare Drum - The Terminator!
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“Smells like De-Monitization” y’all crack me up😂😂
fair use? you played a drum beat XD
@@treatb09 people have gotten demonitized for playing part of a guitar lead 🤷♂️
@@1thess523 you can’t copyright a guitar solo lol. Ridiculous.
@@treatb09 of course you can
„Smells like De-monitization“ - You guys just won the internet today 😂
A beast. Almost bought one in '84, but ended up getting an 8x14 birch instead. I need to be slapped.
"Smells Like De-Monitization" was a perfect throw-in caption for that portion of the video 😂
My old drummer had one of these. The practice was at my place and he left it on my kit for a bit. I'm a bassist and amateur drummer and I played on it. Fantastic drum. The 2nd edition. Shiny and very heavy. Exspensive is a understatement.
Damn this snare drum in this video sounds just like the perfect studio snare sample. Goes to show so many people shoot for this drum’s sound when looking for that perfect snare sound.
In my opinion, it IS the greatest sounding snare ever. I own a DW 6x14 Collector's Series Cast Bronze snare that i think sounds
really close to it. It didn't cost me too much but for the sound that it has, the price was well worth it. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for this video Shane!!! So glad we got to take a pic of this, and my 1980 Tama Bell Brass side by side. Keep up the great videos guys!!!
The best snare drum ever imo. The king of all snare drums. There’s nothing else like Tama bell brass.
I would put the rare vintage Sonor signature series Bell Bronze 8x14 up there as well
Sonor HLD 590 Cast Bronze 14x8 is the least to say of the same level, if not superior.
I would generally agree but personally prefer the 1989 N&C 6.5x14 Zildjian snare by a c hair.
Not even. Ludwig' black beauty from the 20s. A bronze hand hammered just as good or better
How about the Hard Rock 9 by Premier?
I was hoping to hear a comparison between this and the other versions you mentioned in the video. Amazing video!
Also LMAO at those demonitization stuff and the references. That made it even better
One of the best snares ever.
WOW... that drum sounds in this video are PHENOMENAL! Major props!! ❤🙌👌
You guys make incredible videos and i surely love every piece of gear i bought from you, quality service!!! thanks
The Tama Praetorian Bell Brass is worth every penny. Thank you for your passion. Great channel!
Thanks Shane for this awesome video on an awesome drum.
Really great snare drum.
That’s crazy how it sounds exactly like the Nirvana track. You guys nailed it.
For me, it’s hard to justify the price.
Agreed, it literally sounds just like all of those Dave Grohl parts
Nothing better to a natural snare sound,with no to much post edit.
Yes!!!! Thank you guys! I think many of us would LOVE to also hear the N&C Zildjian snare and original HLD590 recorded by you guys. Pretty please?
We've got 'em here in the shop...
Thanks and Blessings Shane! I'm happy with my DW 3MM Brass that does it for me! You Da Man!!!
"We speak snare drum." Whelp, that puts you a cut above many businesses out there. Keep up the great content!
Hey Shane, Thanks for doing this, great presentation btw! I think if there is any one factor that could bring back the , "Terminator" to original spec, it would be you, and your shop. I'd buy one for Shure. Would be great if Tama brought back some other models, from back in the day as well. I'd like to see the 8" depth come back into fashion again. Hopefully their watching this?! Thanks again for making that Sonor Bronze happen, my clients have been pleased!
Great video guys!.
Can we see a TAMA bell brass review in the near future, comparing all the different models of this drum, from 80s until de 2015 reissue?, that will be amazing!.
I wonder if Tama will consider another type of reissue given the popularity. I would be interested for sure.
the canopus solid brass is an incredible snare too. i wish tama sees this video and decide to bring it back as a regular item. but right now, i think someone could be very happy with a canopus solid brass. but there is no denying those old tamas had the sound. i regret not having bought one when they were available.
Is that a Duluth Shell?
Just listen to Black album by Metallica. Used one of those! HUGE sound!
I'd been hearing lately that was actually the N&C Zildjian snare and went and watched the making of HD remake and it appears to be.
Smells like a Hit!, testify that classic sound!. Enter the brass shell,
That snare sounds insane! Total rocker.
Definitely a dream snare!
Wow! What a sound
Killer mixing Tony!!!!
Good golly... That snap is unreal
Thank you so much for this quality video. I love the sound that the 1980 Tama Bell brass snare drum has. Thank for the info on where the snare was used. I always loved the snare sound that Guns n Roses had in Appetite for Destruction and now I know why it sounded so beautiful.!! I wish I could buy one of those few valueble snare. Great video!!!
Thanks for watching!
Guns and roses appetite for destruction was a ludwig' snare dude
Bravo! The best snare EVER, in my opinion! (this one looks very familiar! haha!)
Very cool. You can hear the distinct snap which allows it to sit in that bed, with tons of body behind it.
Coincidentally, I was loading some Toontrack drum samples recently, and, well there was this "Tama bell brass" (ok, I didn't really know), And, OH YES, that be a fun thing to hear when I hit my Roland Vdrum snare pad ! Of course not going to replicate the actual playing experience of the real thing, but, still, that puppy sure cuts through !
I'm old enough to have bought the original. I remember they also had a Noble Cooley Zildjian brass shell back there in the 80s too, which was tempting.
Something to remember, if I do get to time travel back and try it 'one more time'....
ive got one of these, wow, never ever imagined it to be so rare our historic
I have a Tama bell brass with the bell brass rims . The bell brass rims sound & record amazing. I love my drum.
OMG thats sounds sooooooo PERFECT!!!!!
Love the sound of that drum. I'm just like you Shane. Hit it once and you can feel it as well as hear it.
Would've been nice hearing Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Demonitization !!!
Love the Sound
Saying this is my favorite snare is kinda like saying my favorite guitar is the '58 Flying V, but both are true. This snare is nearer to obtanium, however.
As I do not have the means to yet acquire a BB drum, I have settled for my second, which is also a Tama: Stewart Copeland Signature. Another fantastic offering.
of course that snare sound is absolutely amazing. But guys, that kick on enter ulrich was right on the point!
Bruce Gary (RIP) played a Tama Terminator on the Knack's debut album, "Get the Knack" released in June 1979.
Really? Did not know that. I better go look up "My Sharona" right now and check that out.
@@Twotontessie
Check this out! Gretsch drums, Paiste cymbals, Tama Terminator.
"THE KNACK drummer Bruce Gary explaining some of his classic beats"
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Curious, what is your source for this? The album was made before the snare was offered. Bruce was a Gretsch guy. I can't find anything that mentions the snare. It has the quality of a 14x5 or 5.5 aluminum or steel snare. But maybe you know a source. I've always been a huge fan of that record and the drum sound. Prescott doesn't remember much of the details regarding the drums but David Tickle and Pete Coleman both reference a Gretsch kit with no mention of the snare. Not arguing with you, just wonder where you heard this?
Shane, you did it with Sonor, you can do it with Tama. Have them sand cast a few the old way. You will make us all happy and become a legend in the process. Screw the reissue, bring back the original, and the first one is mine !!
I was checking out wall coverings and that wooden pattern in the back is what I picked out. ...lol.... it would be so nice if these guys had a small store in Washington State.
Is it the 'best'? I don't think so. Is it absolutely unique? Absolutely! It has a trait unlike any other drum...you know what it is when you hear it! It is iconic in that you know what it is when you hear it, and it has been used in so many iconic songs that you get to hear it a lot!
Brass is and will always be king......nufff said.
This “bell brass” is actually cast bronze.
The most perfect kick in the world. Amaaaazing.
never clicked faster on a video lol..
Great as always. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Sounds great!
I reaaaaaaaaally hope some day you can try and maybe make a video of an Oriollo BellMaker 7.5" deep full edition. You will be blown away... 25lb bell bronze snare, skull cracking rimshots via the also bell bronze hoops. And that tone.... This Tama is for sure a golden standard but this Oriollo is saying 'excuse me, that's my snare stand.'
I'm from México ... I have a king beat Tama, acrolite 67's and Vistalite ludwig and sonor Piccolo brass 70's
Definitely the king. The only drum I’ve ever heard that can hang with it is the DW Sabian Vault Edge snare that they only made a few of.
I owned one of those Vault Edge snares for years. Sold it to a friend a few months ago for what I paid, and just a bit more. It is indeed an incredible (and crazy heavy) drum.
After the 80s Terminator you reviewed, came the Superstar badged Tama Mastercraft Bell Brass in the 1981 catalog, same oversized shell, same extended snares throw-off, longer Superstar lugs and die-cast hoops, Holy Grail #2 so to speak...then came the Power Metal series Bell Brass in 1988 with the bell-brass hoops, the other Power Metal BB you have shown as a picture in your video, came in 1998...
...the recent others are re-issues....
👍🥁amazing sound👋🥇
The best bell brass snare ever made. Sound looks quality.
I like the reissued snare more, super cut and slam. Surprised but thanks for showing both. I tested some brass snares in different size combos once and the singer of my band said I am not gonna let you get one of those, I just can't sing with that near me, so I stick with my cheap Tour Custom wood snare.
John Collins you like the reissue more because you’ve never played the original.
That snare sounds Fantastic but I would have love to hear the Tuning Range on it!!
An older gentleman I met at Guitar Center whose been drumming for a longtime even said that this snare was the best one he recorded with besides a Black Beauty!
By any chance would you have the head pitches (notes) for the recording, both heads? Sounds amazing
My "holy grail" snare. Bucket list No 1.
Great video !!!
Thank you for the videos.
I have a 14x6.5 Toma Star Classic. I your opinion what is the best head for rock music on this snare?
the instant he started played it I heard "Teen Spirit" by Nirvana. Holy SMOKES man!
I really think that supersensitive snares make big difference. I don´t understand why it isnt used anymore
I used this exact snare on our catch without arms album recorded Terry Date
Great video! Love that snare.
What about doing the same with Sonor Horst Link and Jeff Ocheltree?
That pop. Ugh 🤤🤤😍😍
I don’t understand why companies don’t capitalize on the idea of oversizing their shells slightly to recreate that tone. Tama should do another reissue and just make the shell molds a few mil thicker
I have a tama birch superstar 14 x6.5 from 82 and I thought it sounded good. But this drum is like the holy grail
I had a Tama Bell Brass back in the 80's and bought the re-issue Tama BB and although the re-issue sounds warm and full it lacks a certain "mojo" if you will that the 80's Tama BB have. Could be a number factors like bearing edge, throw-off and butt, casting or material who knows? Still enjoy the sound my newer BB delievers.
It’s said to be a different casting method: Sand-cast for the original ones and centrifugal casting for the reissue and even for the mid-late 90‘s models.
The Drum Doctor Ross Garfield owns the original Snare used on Nirvanas Album. He is the definitive expert on this drum.
A. That snare is awesome... B. Can you do a sound sample of the the Ronald bruner jr sig snare.. that has me very interested and theres zerrrrrrrrro vids of it
That drummer was like “nailed it” lol
Imagine Buddy Rich having played on this...😳
It actually reminds me of an expensive, big brother version of the Tama SLP bronze snare.
People look for famous sounding snares of famous records.This one, the Supraphonic...
This snare is fantastic, its possible to know what cymbals are playing in the video? Tnx
"Smells Like De-monitization" Hahaha. Luckily you can't copyright a drum beat!
Also, thanks to this video the 1980 Tama Bell Brass just got more expensive and harder to find. THANKS A LOT DCP! :-D
2 claims so far. :/
My god that Tama sounds good 😎
Greatest snare I've ever heard on You Tube by a country mile.
What snare do you sell that comes closest to it's sound? (I saw the other bell brass video, but would like to hear your guy's opinions.)
Gretsch Bell Brass, Gretsch USA Custom Steel, John Tempesta Signature. That's about it.
@Adam Nesbitt FYI : I will be deleting my comments on this from 2 years ago, as apparently somehow my comments were linked to a completely different video, & this is not the snare drum I was talking about, the one I remember in a video I saw was much newer, & had no muffler control knob (& certainly not with presets!) or extended snare wires & this somehow was switched to a different video (weird!), I think the drum demonstrated in this video is actually a very good drum, so I will be deleting my previous comments accordingly. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I'd say a really big part of the legend behind it is the albums it was played on, Appetite for Destruction, Master of Puppets, Black Album, Nevermind; some of the biggest albums in history with some of the most highly regarded drum sounds in history.
Your 61 year old years are just that.. 61 years old.
I marvel at your ignorance when you try to pontificate that your own opinion on what a legend is somehow renders hundreds of other people's opinion invalid.
@@adamnesbitt11 FYI : I will be deleting my comments on this from 2 years ago, as apparently somehow my comments were linked to a completely different video, & this is not the snare drum I was talking about, the one I remember in a video I saw was much newer, & had no muffler control knob (& certainly not with presets!) or extended snare wires & this somehow was switched to a different video (weird!), I think the drum demonstrated in this video is actually a very good drum, so I will be deleting my previous comments accordingly. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
"Smells like De-monitization". You just cracked me up.
Amazing.
What would be the price of such an original 1980 Tama BB-156?
What was the cymbal set up for this vid? Loved the bell of that ride.
Sabian AAX medium ride 21
Hi, what tune bot settings for batter and hazy?
I love the sound of my Supra-phonic, but damn, this snare is amazing! Cuts straight through. I was lucky enough to try one of the reissues, and although it was a nice snare I didn't get the big hype around it. Hearing the original, now I get it.
Hey! Cheers from LA. Adore you guys. I must ask -- is this Ross Garfield prototypes? The actual Terminator? His stated 30 pound one?
This snare with an 83 Tama Artstar Cordia, and imo, ya got the best hard rock drum kit ever made (as long as ya have some 2002’s) The biggest problem is finding this snare, or the Artstar in good condition. Even this snare has some pitting happening.
The original "Voice of God" snare I lusted after as a kid.
Ludwig Supraphonic and Rogers Dynasonic
Iam Noone not even in the same ballpark
Best snare ever ❤
What ride is that? Sounds awesome...
insane. Collectors material x 100.
The 1980 catalog lists the drum as "5mm thickness " and is offered in 5x14(BB155) for $685 and 6 1/2 × 14(BB156) for $750. The 1982 catalog shows the polished finish and only offers the larger drum, for $790. It says
"3mm". I believe the drum we are hearing here, with the original rough finish, is a 5mm thickness.
The host of this video who is the owner of DCP, literally said he never has seen a 5mm thick one. So it would be strange the one in this video is a 5mm thick one. If I was him and got my hands on one, I would check the thickness straight away.
Beefy! Great video! I just ordered an Oriollo. BTW the term "bell brass" doesn't exist. It's always Bell Bronze. As far as I know, there are no bells made of brass, and those snares are made of Bronze, not brass. 👍
I own a ffs pearl 6:5x 14 1981 made in japan l love it extended snare wires can’t live witout it l’d love to own the tama bell brass hope that my dream come thrue🥁🥁🥁🥁🤩🤩
Snap ! : I run with a series1 6.5x14 Pearl Copper ff. A bit finicky when time for head/wire changes; but it always comes good with power and a new sassy attitude. Tried many wires...even PureSound Equalizers. Back to Pearl extended 20 . I love it muchly. :-) :-) :-)
Legendario sonido
Why not show the inside and bearing edge of the snare drum when you showed the drum up close? Is this a 3mm shell or 5mm shell?
Had mine since 1983! Been in the loft for past 20 plus years 6.5. Going to bring it back to life, new skins snare wire chrome rechrome. Brass/bronze just a damp cloth. Would be a mistake to clean . Would I sell? It needs to be played but at the right price
I’d love to play your drum, or buy it at the right price!
@@RustyKnorr I know it's a lot but wouldn't let it go for less than £7000. Might have to leave it to my daughter!
@@marcusdance5068 Yup, that's a lot. I would probably be the same if I had it. Standing on the outside it sure is hard to imagine any drum being worth that though. I have some incredible and rare drums, none commands that kind of price. They really have achieved mythical status.
I'd probably hate it. LOL!
Powerfull!!!