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@@Flome810 except, they are. Look straight ahead, focussing on one point. Now notice your peripheral vision without averting your eyes. Now make the “director hands” with both your thumbs and index fingers and put them right at the edges of your view without moving your eyes - so, one hand in the top left and one in the bottom right at the point where they are furthest without dropping out of view. Then notice the shape you’ve drawn. That shit is a square 🤣
@@Flome810 well superheroes are vertical figures. They stand proudly and tends not to back down. Emphasizing the verticalness of the their figure, snyder chose a square frame. But it doesnt mean the sides are cropped. In fact, you could easily make the film widescreen by cropping to top and bottom without losing anything. Becayse zack designed it that way. And in fact the whedon cut used that technique to launch his version
Zach's cinematography feels like he seamlessly pieced together hundreds of epic comic panals into one movie and that is respectable. Marvel makes more faithful movies thematically, but Zach makes movies that actually look like comic books truly brought to life
@@reklem2 took me about a day, after doing research and while posting questions on sms. It's pretty safe in general as long as one follows directions precisely.
“Faith, Alfred. Faith.” I love Batfleck’s character arc from Batman vs Superman to Justice League. In BvS, he was broken, hateful, and alone. But, Superman’s sacrifice showed him that there’s still good in the world. In Justice League, he’s rejuvenated and enjoys the company of others. He believes in the team, the people around him, he cares for all of them. The final scene with Bruce standing outside, smiling and looking at the sunset, that was brilliant. He knew his parents were proud of him, and he finally found peace.
I feel like he was written very inconsistent. I’m BvS Bruce us very secretive and strong but in ZSJL Batman gets beaten up by everyone and reveals himslef to everyone
@@aaronm4841 he was beaten up by aliens and he said it himself. "Alfred for once I am acting strictly on faith." That's not inconstancy... that's growth. You see it at the end of BvS when he makes the "men are still good" speech
@@yeetcity2704 oh really? Bc in the previous movie he was in a fight with Superman then doomsday and that faith line he was referring to Superman helping them. The Batman I KNOW, from any other media would of never been beaten up by a bug.
@@aaronm4841 ...it's a PARADEMON. The reanimated corpse of other aliens. And the faith line was about Superman coming to help them. Also Batman is a regular human fighting against incredibly strong aliens. Ofc he's going to struggle
I disagree with his opinion. But I absolutely RESPECT his honesty. Everybody should have the right to express their thoughts on a movie. Movies are subjective, just like any other form of art.
yeah i liked his opinion its basically "i dont like this film but its my opinion" unlike other people said things like "this movie is trash and everyone should agree with me"
@@nra3zehuti781 How do you determine somethings objective value though? Everyone has a different view on what makes a movie good or bad because everyone is different. I don't enjoy the lord of the rings and I dislike a batman who uses guns but that is my viewpoint. Value isn't something that can be determined objectively when it comes to stories because while people like horror I don't, to them it has value, to me it does not. You can't say whether or not something has value objectively only whether or not it has value to you.
Please don't ever be sorry for being passionate about movies and then passionately sharing your viewpoints on them. Regardless of whether anyone agrees with your critiques (I disagree with about half of them and align with the rest), you always explain your contention articulately and in a logical fashion, and from one film geek to another, I appreciate that shit immensely.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
Can we talk about how neglected green lantern has been? My boy had one bad movie and now he is never to be seen apart from a tiny reference in a 4 hour movie.
WB took out John Stewart, even in the damn Snyder cut, in place for Martian Manhunter. Cool (for me, personally), but put some shame above their heads for this move
@@Frogman1212 a film maker wouldnt care that "he's a Republican" though. Also just about all comic book writers and artists are leftists so maybe if you're so obsessed with politics, you should stop consuming comic movies and books lol
I don’t love Snyder’s Batman, but I can just enjoy him as a badass Batman. I stand behind you that he doesn’t kill, I just view it as a different universe.
people are too hung up that its not "their batman". It doesnt have to be. We have had 6 different iterations, each one very different. Each one refreshing. Even marvel reinvented characters like Thor. Thor 3 was really fun, but its "not my thor". Is it good? yes. Is it accurate. No. Just like Zachs batman/superman are controversial, but he executed his controversial vision perfectly
“He’s just a sweetheart who wants to get home” *throws several horses* Funniest part of the video. Honestly I agree though, didn’t think I’d be feeling sympathy for steppenwolf.
Weirdly, that was my strongest after-thought as the movie ended and everything faded. All that was left behind was a strange sense of unease at how Steppenwolf was slaughtered and discarded in seconds, after having hustled all through the movie. :l
I thought something got better with his character. Then its just get worse, didnt care at all even he's bombarded by supes aquaman and WW. Its the movie about JL anyway, doesnt really matter to me.
@@simonbright2975 I felt the exact same way. His story is pretty tragic and depressing. He gets constantly bullied, taunted, and insulted by his fellow New Gods. All he wants to do is please Darkseid, and go home. And how does his story end? With his head getting crushed by the very person he only wanted to please, as the life in his eyes slowly fades away. "He will be pleased. He will see my worth again." "Please, we have families!" "Then you have weakness."
@@The_Boys_Archive Yeah. I think it was kind of icky. Maybe they'll explain it if they ever make a sequel but for now, his character still felt like it was made for the sole purpose of being a gigantic plot device.
This the best take I've seen on the Snyder Cut. I was also never going to like this movie, but the fact that he got to finish his vision with such passion deserves all the respect in the world. Great video, man.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
Didn't liked it as much as I thought I would. The characters build up of flash Cyborg and Aquaman took too much place in the movie. At the 2nd and 3rd hour I was just wondering where's the action. Its like the story was moving at turtle speed. Didn't liked batman changing his personality, Martian Manhunter introduction. Oh and Jesus batman cowl in the kryptonian ship is just a NO. I thought it was a whedon cut. Nightmare scene was one of the best things of this movie. Flash was great too. Cyborg was great in many ways but in a way leaving flash's story on the side just doesn't make sense to me. Wonder woman was great she did a lot. But the team up work wasn't good. I don't like the recent mcu but hell their team up work is much better. Snyder is better at solo movies then movies with several heroes. I'd rather watch bvs. I know it's contradictory but snyder was able to tell 2 stories in 3 hours while in JL, he wasmaking 4 stories in 4 hours while the plot should be centered not put apart. *THAT'S WHY YOU MAKE SOLO MOVIES* The dialogue isn't great some of them are cringe. And I rarely do. Too much slow mo and song choices are just a NO. I prefer the heroes theme. The only theme I can clearly remember is WW.
@@benedicto2031 lol Im not even an mcu fan but the dialogue could have been improved. Flash is cringe. I like Avengers but I im a Dc fan for life. It doesn't mean Avengers is better it just mean that Avengers was better built. At least the comedy goes with the universe. That's why I prefer Bvs over JL. Bvs is dark and shows the reality of the dc universe. Oh well that's just my opinion. Respect it, discuss it, or rage in npc scream.
I would argue that’s exactly the most important part! When films were first created so many years ago, they weren’t corporate blockbusters with millions of dollars backing the film. They were small, confined artistic stories told on a small budget, usually making no money in the long run. It was about the vision to tell a story first and foremost
Warner bros fucked him over hard and chose defend one of the most vile pieces of shit in Hollywood to bury this movie. Regardless of how you feel about the merit of Snyder's work, regardless of how irritating the fans and cultists can be, letting this movie be released was unambiguously the right thing to do.
He's the absolute inverse of Joss Whedon. Whedon can make a "conventionally good" movie or show, do things formulaic but he's ultimately a piece of animal shit. Snyder makes movies that are genuinely baffling most of the time in every way, but he's a pretty cool dude and the cost obviously LOVED working with him.
@@paulmajano in recent years though after much thought and repeating what people said about Tom Holland being the best Spiderman because "he's young and makes quips" I realized I was wrong and that 30 year old American sweetheart Tobey Maguire is actually the best Spiderman
@Bing Boom Pow bro I think you're mad at the writing and direction. Ben Affleck and grumpy older batman was great to me. Idk what to tell you. Jared Leto being bad is fair, then again that more of a suicide squad problem then a Zack problem.
This version of Steppenwolf is probs my favorite character in the movie. Guy's just trying to redeem himself and be the cool uncle! The problem is that he's trying to be Darkseid's cool uncle, and his redemption consists in enslaving everything to Darkseid. But the intention is there!
Well that's something you can always say about him. He's a better version of Micheal Bay. Amazing visual director. Likes making women look good. Just needs work on character. Only difference is MB doesn't try and Zach I feel does.
Besides the “looking cool” side, the point of Superman’s Black Suit is to absorb more Sunlight than the regular red & blue suit. That’s why he immediately flies to the Sun after putting it on
It would've been nice if they explained this in the movie, like they had time for Darkseids backstory and Lois Lane but couldn't even spare a few seconds to explain why Superman wears the black suit now?
@@maldon3659 they couldn't explain it because WB didn't want superman to dawn the black suit ever so that scene couldn't be shot cause WB would shot it down. Also in man of steel, I believe the black suit was explained as a kryptonian heritage. That's why In the vision with Zod, superman suit becomes black among the sea of human of skulls. the blue custom is worn for more diplomatic reasons. Black I believe was representation of going to battle. If it's heritage then that explains both his dad speaking, signifying superman accepted both his heritage full heartedly.
@@JNeedleVids I don’t think people need to be told the basic science of the color black. Why not have it be visually explained like having Superman immediately fly into space to bask in the sun?
After seeing the REAL Justice League, I'd go as far as to say that I want to see more Batfleck. I want to see more of the tourtured soul his aging Batman has become, and I want to see his dynamic with the Joker. It actually has me hopeful for the future of DC films. Imagine James Gunn and David F. Sandberg teaming up with Zack Snyder for a Justice League sequel. Wishful thinking, I know, but there's a much better chance of that coming to be than there was before this cut of the film.
@@If_Only_I_Knew_Why I love the idea of Ben Affleck’s Batman. I just feel like he suffered due to BvS script, the idea of a Batman that maybe has broken mentally and gone off the rails but eventually comes back to his senses could be cool. I’d wanna see how dark that journey could get before he redeems himself though. The sudden change from I wanna kill Superman to “your mother’s name is Martha” now I wanna be your friend is just pulled off poor in that movie, and I’ll never like it.
@@Harvester88 I agree with that completely. After I watched the Snyder Cut I immediately went back to rewatch BVS (ultimate cut). While there's a few things I don't like about the movie, I feel like understand them a little better. Batman actually killing people was my biggest gripe with the movie, but I shouldn't have ignored what Lex said earlier in the film about Superman "bending the rules to save Lois." Batman bent HIS rules to save Martha... Also, the sheer amount of setup for JL is astounding and just makes it more infuriating that it was ALL scrapped for the Josstice League...
Honestly as bad or good the story was, you can't tell me that this movie didn't have just awesome cinematography. The shots at the end with flash honestly looked fucking beautiful
yep, this is me when I go watch any Snyder movie. If I wanna go watch a compelling story, then I wouldn't watch his movie lol. I watch his movie to be amazed by the visuals, that's it really.
Same. I was hyped af for the Snyder Cut the week it came out, but now I’ve come to the conclusion that even though Snyder’s films are visual marvels, he is not a great storyteller. I still really enjoy his films despite most of them being objectively not good.
I really enjoyed the Snyder cut. I’m the kind of person who likes Snyder’s style of film making. I’d rather have a niche film only a minority of people enjoy then a huge “people pleaser” film made for everyone.
When Batman said he was going to "fucking kill" Joker, the ladder responded with "You almost had me there". I think that means that Batman doesn't kill anymore.
The love and passion Zack has for his work is something I have always admired. He went through so much after losing his daughter. But he still came back to deliver his vision. Whether this universe continues or not I'm still still grateful that a filmmaker finally got to show his vision.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
I'll be honest I'm not a huge fan of Snyder's work, but I am in love with the visual style of this movie. Every one of his shots is like a painting that you could put up on a wall.
so in a way, given his visual style is his work...you actually like his work. What you dont like is this take of the story. Which was co written by others and meddled by studios
I never felt your Snyder rant in the ‘Batman Does Not Kill’ video to be childish and petty. I mean, sure, it played up the humor and the fanboy angle, but it was not unfounded criticism that some others resort to.
I still think that this video for me, had more value, it talks about some things that I think could use some spreading around, the understanding that not everyone has to agree with you.
Tbf I used to HATE homecoming and FFH. Even though I still think FFH is filled with plotholes I accept the version of Tom's spidey now. Just wish he gets better writers.
I think he (and honestly, I too) is never gonna get past the fact that ultimately, both Homecoming and FFH feel a lot like products and entertainment more than the vision of a real person behind the cameras. From I've seen on his videos, Alex in particular is all for movies and cinema being a form of expression for artists, and that's something that Disney's Spider-Man movies have always lacked and will probably always lack: a soul. In this video he basically said it: he might not like Snyder's version of the characters, but at the end of the day is SNYDER'S. Who is Iron-Boy Jr. version of? Certainly not Jon Watts, Kevin Feige? Maybe, but I don't think so; people like to applaud to Feige and everything for doing a successful cinematic universe and I agree, he did an amazing job with that, but ultimately he still responds to the suits on Disney and everything he does is gonna be aimed at pleasing them. Zack Snyder, in the other hand, had little to no interference (until JL, of course) and you can see that both his movies and the interpretation of the characters in them are HIS, and I think, again, from what I've seen from Alex, that that's why he will have a hard time accepting MCU's Spider-Man. He is a character that is not only far from his comic book self (if he wasn't he could probably like him at least), but also written by a corporation, not a person, and he feels as such.
@@theankh2872 I don't know how to feel about Far From Home but Homecoming was a great movie. It felt like a teenage coming of age drama in the skin of a superhero flick. A lot of good movies have done this genre bending/mixing thing - TDK trilogy, Logan, etc. The most memorable scene to me is when Liz's father opens the door and Peter beholds the Vulture. There's that moment of 0.0 and a creeping tension permeates, lingering till the end of the car scene - it then immediately translates into another tonal shift as a shell-shocked Peter numbly abandons Liz in pursuit of her father, only to end up buried under tons of rock, at the peak of his emotional turmoil, as if the world's weight was crushing him spiritually and physically. Jesus fuck is that such a brilliant bit of cinema. So - idk if that's comic book accurate, but I loved it as a movie-goer's experience. It had character and depth, and I feel that there were real people behind creating it, rather than a corporation.
@@c3phCD was it a comment I made on the Spider-Man 2 theme song about referring to Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire as Spider-Boy, Spider-Teen and Spider-Man?
12:32 disagree with this point. According to the lore the Black suit is a healing suit. And having that he basically was just revived it'd make sense that he'd wear the one that's better for recovery. I still like alot of the points in this video but this is just a small thing.
@@MugdhaMahdiShams there's no way it would've been explicitly stated since the studio didn't want the suit in the first place. The black suit was created by color correcting the normal one. It's only hinted at when he absorbs sun energy in it
They couldve just kept the iconic suit and the movie wouldn't change one bit. If you're changing the suit without any explanation as to why, then it does seem pointless.
I loved the film but quality doesn’t matter,a director who lost one of the most important things in his life got something amazing back in return and got to make his vision
HiTop literally started this video saying I (the viewer) had already made up my mind but joke's on you, I never even saw the Snyder Cut! I just wanted to watch this video to get your option because I happened to like your opinions! *SO WHO'S LAUGHING NOW HITOP??!! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!!!*
The warehouse scene in BvS is one of the greatest action scenes in super hero movies to date, you don't get that with the no killing batman. This is a broader, bigger, more battered batman than we've seen on films prior, you took the grounded ninja approach with Bale already, this Bruce is twice the size why wouldn't he be a body builder gun slinging batman, realistically? He strikes you and he's easily breaking a bone, thats why all his opposition has been stronger or more equipped weapon wise. Makes you wonder how he would've matched up against Deathstroke.. With all said,, I loved the trilogy. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I have a defense for Batman threatening Joker "I will FUCKING kill you": look at the setting. It's the post-apocalyptic Knightmare future, where Darkseid has taken over the Earth and destroyed human civilization. This is a Batman whose morals are pretty much thrown out the window for the sake of making sure he and his fellow survivors get Flash to successfully time travel into the past to change the future.
The way I took it, he was "merely" trying to mentally torture / scare Joker in that scene, because he is really, really pissed at him. Joker calls him out on that one. And I believe Joker nailed it there. He knows Batman will never do that. That's why he keeps taunting him.
@@bruhman1094 He still kills all the way through bvs and didn’t stop killing even after his supposed ark was finished (which being the Martha moment) and he continued to use guns in the justice league and didn’t fight crime so he didn’t get to kill anyone human but if he did he still was never implied that he would stop killing (no the Martha moment isn’t implying that at all as he literally commits homicide the scene directly afterwards just in case u were thinking that) and he also kills parademons but parademons is debatable if that’s considered breaking his role so he technically does still kill because he’s never been given a actual reason to stop or said himself or at least hinted he would 🤣 also we got no clue if he killed before bvs so u can’t really make that statement 🤣 Sorry if this came off as if I’m getting mad or something I’m genuinely not 🤣
@@JoshuaR9763 in justice league the scene where batman is standing on top of the bat tank if you look closely there are some mutant gang members tied and beaten up on the bottom left corner and that leads us that he stopped killing and btw his arc in bvs ended after superman died then he realised what he has done and that his ways were wrong. you may ask why did he kill the criminals that were in the warehouse fight scene he killed them because he was trying to stop a boy getting his mother killed so he saw the reflection in superman that his mother (martha) is like Clark's mother (also martha) so he did everything he can to prevent a boy getting his martha taken away from him. Sorry for my bad English im not used to talk english often
I get it. You respect the artist just not the art. I know how that is. I have a friend who used to have his own youtube review channel. And I would disagree with a lot of what he said. (and I do mean a LOT) But I always kept watching because it was authentically his thing. It was unique and I appreciated that.
I’m just happy that Zack finally got to fulfill his own film the way he wanted to after going through a tough loss. (BTW Guardians of Ga’hoole is really good)
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
I have to say that I agreed with you. As much as I wanted to be ready to hate your opinion, I agree with you. It wasn’t made for you but it serves the same artistic expression that we both can get behind. It is as you said, “It is 100% Zack Snyder.”
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
At this point, I feel like it’s inevitable that we see the SnyderVerse restored. These movies have generated more noise and garnered more attention than any of WB previous films, and future DC movies to come. If Warner don’t capitalise, it’d be one if the biggest missed opportunities in film history. The money is literally there for the taking.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
Tbh, I wouldn't call it biggest opportunity in film history. HBO max still has less than 100 million subscribers at the moment (only around 40 million at the start of this year). It is hard to say that the amount viewers of Snyder Cut will even match the amount for the theatrical version, especially so when you consider the international markets (many Asian countries are filled to the brim with their own streaming services). I saw the Snydercut, and I didn't like it, but it was certainly better than the theatrical version. Many of Snyder's polarizing style is certainly still there and will remain polarizing to the general audience. WB has already tasted some success with their non-Snyder styled films in Aquaman and the new Joker film, and based off of their upcoming slate of films, I don't think that WB is leaning towards the restoration of the SnyderVerse. Affleck has also departed and Pattison is already under contract to play Batman in the upcoming solo flick, and based off of WB's cartoon history (They absolutely hate having two different versions of the same character at a concurrent time). Cavill's status is also up in the air.
Does Superman need to absorb Yellow sun radiation more easily after he defeated the entire justice league more easily than Steppenwolf ever did? I honestly don't think so.
@@jammygamer8961 fair point, but it doesn't change the fact that Superman didn't need the black suit to absorb Yellow sun radiation faster. In fact between Superman being revived because he is needed, and how he easily defeated the entire justice league, Superman knew to an extent that he could most likely deal with the threat before he even put on the black suit.
@@jammygamer8961 even if that were the case, Superman should have stopped wearing the black suit after the threat of Steppenwolf was stopped. Superman continuing to wear the black suit only foreshadows something darker.
This was honestly the best DCEU film Zack directed. It actually feels hopeful for me and not everything made me miserable 90% of the time. Well done Zack. Well done man. May Autumn rest in piece.
I felt the same way. I was pretty shocked how little of the brooding, depressing bs there was in this compared to his other DC films. Aside from the epilogue anyway, that part felt like BvS all over again, I'll probably just skip it on future rewatches.
@@guspeixoto7740 Yeah, like I said, it felt like BvS all over. The CG looked worse, the sepia tone cinematography was obnoxious, the dialogue was deranged and Jared Leto's Joker was...well, Jared Leto's Joker. It was pretty bad in my opinion, and the entire sequence felt very hamfisted and unnecessary since the whole Knightmare thing was already alluded to much better earlier in the film. I think once you get to the part where Clark opens up his shirt to reveal the Superman logo, you can just turn the movie off and not miss anything noteworthy. The rest of the movie had a pretty good combination of humor and serious stakes, but that part just went completely off the rails again.
@@marvelfannumber1 the only dialogue between Leto and Batfleck I liked was: You wouldn’t kill me, I’m your best friend. That part kinda says their history in 3 seconds.
@@kartikadewi3270 lol it's ironic when phase one that is heavily focused on drama and character study and development. People hates the movie and almost every phase one movie doesn't meet the expectations. only when they became playful is when the mcu finally sells
I personally loved ZSJL, but I can absolutely understand why you or anyone wouldn’t!! I’m just happy that Zack finally got to release his version of Justice League.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
@Gentleman Murk “This movie sucked cause Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and flash got racebent.” So...... you go onto a comment section from a guy who said he personally liked the movie to tell him it sucks because they changed the race of the characters? Now you’re saying they aren’t WHITE ENOUGH. First of all a movie isn’t degraded by race changing what affects a film for it to be worthy of it to “suck” is plot, story, and execution (but that comes to personal preference) secondly saying they aren’t white “enough” is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read I’ve read dumb comments but I’m genuinely serious this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. Ezra is white so you’re wrong there. Aquaman has a shade more darker then that blonde hair dream boy but nothing of his race affects the movies, Wonder Woman is also white so you are wrong again. Honestly man lol.
I’m not sure what his problem with Superman’s return is. The black costume, aside from being a callback to the comics also makes sense from an in-universe perspective because it allows Superman to absorb more of the suns energy more quickly. Along with that, I’m not sure how they want him to be a “beacon of hope” when fighting Steppenwolf. Superman beats the shit out of him because it’s necessary to stop his plan for terraforming the earth and allowing Darkseid to invade. There’s no compromise with villains like these so I’m curious how these two would’ve changed Superman’s role in that final fight scene
Beautifully put. I also never liked Zack Snyder's previous DC work and I didn't like this movie all that much, but I'm glad it was made and I'm glad it was able to be released completely uncompromised.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
Even if Zack Snyder’s DC movies aren’t MY DC characters... these movies made me feel something that Marvel hasn’t made me feel in a while. I love what Zack did, he brought his vision that no one else can EVER do with their movies. Honestly, I’m kinda speechless in how I love the film. It isn’t perfect, there’s still things I wish they did, but it still gives me hope for what other film makers can do. And I want them to #restorethesnyderverse
I will continue watching all marvel tv series, movies, etc. that they make, but all their stuff is just fun at the end of the day. Zack portrays all his heroes as gods - fallible, human, and yet gods. His vision is something quite different than what you expect from a comic book movie, but I think that it matches the vibe of actual comic books, which also sometimes on the same issues as Zack
@@joysanghavi13 Exactly How I feel After Watching TFATWS For some Reason Marvel doesn’t Feel Like Marvel to me,It feels Oversaturated and Kinda Boring I will Keep Watching But I won’t see Every Marvel Movie/Show Anymore Like How I used to before
@@user-vn7tm5ht5g if zack ruined dc, Then he will make them fake chris reeve, fake chris bale, fake lynda carter, fake grant gustin OR juvenile comedisns
He doesn't care if this movie was great or bad, he's cares about what filmmakers do for passion in films and make that storytelling great as much as possible they can.
Superman is a human who happens to be an alien, that's it. He isn't a god despite there being in universe (and off universe too lol) people who think of him as such. He is just, as you say, a guy who tries to do the right thing but just happens to have incredible abilities to do so; but apart from his gits, he has the soul, heart and mind of a man because he was raised and taught as such, he is a SuperMAN.
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 what are you talking about, the religious symbolism of his last movies has obviously elevated the character to eights never seen before. Clearly Christopher's Reeve boy scout Superman has nothing on Snyder's Superjesus... I mean Superman. /s.
Whether or not you liked the film, you have to admit this is huge not only for hollywood but for the entire entertainment industry in general. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Can you explain why it's so monumental for both Hollywood and the entertainment industry. I liked the film but I think it's safe to say that you are overestimating it's reach and it's quality. I'm genuinely interested in why you think that this movie is so impactful so please reply
@@CD-603 because the audience made a company bring back the director to finish his movie through a hashtag. It's not about if you liked the movie or not, it's about an artist finishing a project he wasn't allowed to finish before. I didn't like the movie that much but #restorethesnyderverse
12:30 Clark wasn’t depressed during the Knightmare scene, Darkseid used the anti-life equation to control Clark’s will and he becomes Darkseids slave forced to do his bidding. If you don’t know why Clark would join the man who kills his pregnant wife, it’s because he doesn’t. The anti life equation can control the will of any being in the universe.
Can people stop with these memes ? Seriously it’s not funny if everybody and they momma do it . Like jus say how you liked the movie . Not oh perfectly balanced as everything should be or the fact hitops films topic on this discussion was inevitable. Like STOP . If you need a picture with a “joke” in order to stay alive seek therapy
One thing about HiTop films is that he’s too obsessed with comic book films being relatable to us, like how the Peter Parker in the Rami films has relatable issues in his life but the reality of the situation is that these are COMIC BOOK movies, they’re about superheroes, gods, mythical creatures, men dressed in costumes, it doesn’t always have to be relatable and have this strong human feel to it. I’m not saying it should have a heartless feel to it or no human type moments but we don’t need to be hell bent on having them in there.
What is not relatable about Alfred worrying about Diana scalding his tea? Or Superman hugging two of the most important women to him so passionately with the dusky sun? I kinda disagree with Hitop on that. background?
True but Spider-Man is not a good example of that because in his personal life he's just a normal kid with the same problems as everyone else. Since his inception he was relatable. Even superman can be made relatable. The only world he's ever known is earth where he was raised from a baby by 2 farmers and had a pretty normal upbringing. Obviously that depends on the writer and to begin with in the 30s he was basically just a god there to save people but I think he's proof that any character can be relatable when you have a good writer. But I agree they don't have to be relatable to be enjoyable. As long as the art is nice, I'm probably gonna enjoy the comic regardless if the characters are relatable
MoS is very relatable, it's a story about an adopted boy who wants to be accepted in a world which is afraid of him. BvS is about unreasonable anger and hate for someone different than you. JL is about being alone and being broken and trying to form your own future by changing your own past. The trilogy is very relatable people just don't perceive them as such.
Spider-Man is not a good example because he’s meant to be just a random no one. Tony Stark is a millionare. Thor is also a god. Marvel has their larger than life characters, but Spider-Man is so successful BECAUSE his character is so grounded to the average normal man. At least the Peter Parker side.
I'm still confused why that other guy didn't like it. So he didn't like the aspect ratio? Where you see more? No wait, he said that he didn't like that there weren't any human moments, so he didn't watch when flash talks to his dad? Or when Cyborg talks to his mother? Or maybe at the end when Bruce buys the bank for Clark's mom?
the whole clark returning to the farm scene alone is emotion. clark returning to the fortress is emotional alone! im sick of people saying theres no emotions in these films. thats a flat out lie
@@simonbright2975 yes thats exactly what he said and meant. But at the same time human moments don't need to be shot hand held for no reason. This shot of Clark Lois and his mom matched the rest of the film and acted as his grand return. One good example of shaky cam would be the ending of infinity war which acts as the starting point for endgame: the dusting of hawkeyes family that was done well hand held.
@@acronvron9665 I don't think so. That shot was also an emotional payoff for Martha and Lois. It wasn't just about Clark. It didn't need to be his grand return. It was a human moment. But whatever, I don't mind because I was never that emotionally invested in the movie, except maybe for Cyborg and the Flash, so that didn't bother me. I can see both interpretations. Just because you feel one way, doesn't mean he can't feel another.
The other guy is fucked af he loved BvS but hated JL? He only want to troll us like always saying he got "depressed" is he fucking serius? why Hitops worked with him if this video was only about his opinion? Alex wtf?
This movement was about more than just seeing some movie that never truly came out, it’s much larger than. This needs to be a message to studios that THEY are not in charge. Their sole purpose is to fund and make sure their movies are making money THATS ALL. No more no less. Artists must make art, and not a bunch of suits who only care about their own corporate agenda. Imagine in 50 years from now the museum owner tells the painter to leave something out of his mural, or the Producer tells the song artist to make his album more kid friendly to sell more record labels even though he/she is trying to talk about a life experience that occurred to them in their music. That’s such a grim world where art is dictated by companies and it’s a world I don’t want to live in. Say what you want about this film love it/hate it/fucking despise it and want it to burn like it’s original theatrical release, IT NEEDED TO COME OUT. This director suffered the worst pain you can on this earth, the loss of a loved one and a bunch of suits had the audacity to take his vision, shit all over it and make a mockery of his art while handing it over to some hack director who didn’t nearly have the same connection to the cast/characters as his predecessor did. Shame on you WB. #RestoreTheSnyderverse #EndStudioInterference. This industry needs to change and with Snyder cuts releasing, and miracles like that Sonic movie getting reanimated there is hope yet. I’m just gonna say it again #RestoreTheSnyderverse.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
@@luiginastro8831 like the "Hack Snyder" people, using whatever excuse they have to hate on Zack Snyder EVEN the death of his daughter? Meanwhile Snyder fans rise money for suicide prevention. Sure I see more people bullying the Snyder fans than them doing all the bullying.
Honestly a little heartbroken that you and Bailey didn't get as much from this movie as others, but still a great video. I think it's really encouraging that the general discourse around these movies - and hopefully all capeshit - is losing that mean-spirited edge that kinda defined it from 2016 onward. I loved the movie personally, though it's obviously not without flaws - but i'm glad we can all talk about it and celebrate it for what it is.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
Snyder cut was never about movie finally being good, it was about letting him finish his project that he had so much passion for. I liked it because it was finally his vision and I'm happy for Zack
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
I'm more interested in the characters getting justice than a director that only does things his way. Ultimately he got what he wanted. What about the icons that were in his movie. What did Zack justice league accomplish beyond himself.... we will see I guess. But Yay for Zack fuck everyone else right
People really undercut this version just because a worse version exists beside it. It's an amazing and epic film to be honest unlike any other superhero film beyond it.
I have a defense for how Lois Lane is portrayed in Zack Snyder's Justice League. She's been on this epic journey with Clark ever since the Man of Steel, through thick and thin, and to see her witness the death of the love of her life is a rather tragic event. Most of her scenes in Justice League are her going through grief, REAL human grief, but is still trying to hold it together by doing something as simple as giving out coffee to a police officer (the way Superman looks out for the little guy) who notices she visits Clark's monument every single day while wearing the wedding ring he gave her. A lot of scenes with her are very intimate and cinematic, relying mostly on visual storytelling and little to no dialogue to showcase her grief. In the larger scheme of things, through Lois, we are also able to tell this world has been losing hope ever since Superman died. Amy Adams excelled well with the little to no dialogue in her scenes. And she still had a role to play in grounding Superman back to his humanity after the Mother Box resurrects him via the will of Bruce and his Justice League. I can understand the criticism of how Lois Lane doesn't do much at all in Justice League, but I just hope you can understand where I'm coming from. Basically Lois had a subtle yet powerful role to play in bringing Clark back to who he is.
i completely agree with you. when i watched her scenes in the film, i could feel her emotions and grief, it must've been really really hard for her. somehow, i could understand what she feels at the moment. it was very impactful.
I know right, and the kinghtmare sequence it self is BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF LOIS and superman losing his humanity and giving in to murdering criminals and Humans alike. I mean Hitop did a video of how batman Killing criminals is not the heroes way for godsaskes and the nightmare timeline takes from the Injustice DC ideas of judging and Executing criminals and eventually ruling the world. Zack has shown in movies the power of Mothers in plenty of his movies and has somehow overlooked.
@@IceCubE4425 i don't think he became like injustice, he is just killing everybody, he truly becomes a villain just serving darkseid, and we all know that darkseid doesn't care about humans, so Superman probably doesn't even get to rule earth
I respect your opinion but I liked it. I’m glad to see the directors vision and also you’re not the only one who doesn’t like Joker I don’t like it either. But regardless of whether you liked it or hated the movie let’s just be glad we got to see Zack Snyder Original Vision for this Trilogy. #ForAutumn #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
i liked the film but i think it could of been significantly better. But i don't think this is Zacks fault but more the studio forcing it to be somewhat kid friendly by very heavily condensing the story and toning down the violence
If it was one thing I was excited for when hyping up for this movie was the characters Zack would provide us with. And Zack did not disappointed. Especially Batman. People will now look at Man of Steel or/and BvS and think differently in a way, saying, "this is what they start out as and this is what they will become."
This video gave me hope for opinions in this and the next generations. I feel like this is how rational people used to react to things they don’t agree with. It’s great to see a perspective like this. It’s so refreshing. I understand people being passionate about these characters and stories like they should be, but I’m glad Zack got to a chance to show us his vision.
The problem with that scene where Batman is threatening the Joker is we don’t have a live action movie of Death in Family to give it context. That was one of the problems with Batman v Superman. Batman was too overdevelopment and too much of his character development was not shown to us. We don’t know why he is so broody entirely because we have not seen his second Robin die yet unless you have seen the animated movie Batman Under the Red Hood. Not all DC audiences have. It is not even cannon with this DCEU. Snyder is trying to make it cannon without showing it to us.
He wanted to show it to us in BvS, Warner says no. Now he sais that if he can made his second Justice League movie, he would show us Robin's death in the Wayne's Mannor.
I disagree with you on a lot of points in this video, but this video wasn't a review- it was a love letter to a director of films you didn't love as much as many of us.
I love Zack Snyder’s DCEU and I disagree with pretty much everything you say about his interpretations but I always enjoyed your jokes,memes and Parodying of his Films and style no matter how much it goes against what I thought about him. Yeah we do exist. Fans who can enjoy both sides of the conversations and different opinions man. We do exist You just gotta look hard for us.
Obviously there is in every single thing in existence someone who likes that thing and see it great even perfect. The problem is that that thing will in a vaccume and in general be always associated to the majority view. In the end it depends on your backgrounds and ideas. Mostly backgrounds because they shape how we viewed heroes and they will subconsciously make us reject when something that should represent our ideas represent something different (which is litterely summerizing every video that criticize anything in phylosophical terms) that is why people who saw Superman and batman through snyder movies have way more chance of liking them than those who knew the heroes before In the end we should all respect all of ideas and criticize them in the correct manner
I feel like Zack Snyder's vision of these characters was so different (especially of Batman and Superman, even tho i've always loved and liked his version of these two characters for the universe he built), original and experimental that people needed time to really start to appreciate it and understand it, not because they're dumb, but because his vision of these characters is very personal, and people needed time to fully understand, accept and like his vision of these characters and of the DCEU, because his take on them was very different.
Or, hear me out, his idea of dc characters is based off of skimming Wikipedia articles and glancing at the cover of TDKR. “Original” doesn’t mean good.
@@sterling9314 In fact i didn't say it was good, i said it was original and personal, and the fact that it is personal doesn't make it appeal to anybody, love it or hate it, its very clear that his vision of these characters is very personal, because its true that he took inspiration for his Batman from The Dark Knight Returns, but he made his Batman (in BvS) even more exasperated than Frank Miller's Batman was. He made him use guns, he made him kill, he made him brand criminals, and that's the point, his version of Batman (in BvS) was made/thought to be an anti-Batman, because after 20 years spent in Gotham fighting criminals he lost hope and faith in humanity, he basically told you that in 20 years he hasn't done anything that really matters for Gotham or for the world. And that was his point, he was lost, and had lost hope, and at the end of the movie Superman's death gives him hope and faith (which is a word that is very used by Batman in ZSJL) again. But apparently some people didn't quite get that, because (and now here we come to my initial point) his version of Batman was different and because it also had a different arc and development.
@@GabesEdtiz Yeah, exactly, it also depends from the perception people have of these charcaters, i've never read a comic book in my life, so it doesn't really bother me if a character is different from the comics (even tho, especially Ben Affleck's Batman, its not that distant from the Frank Miller's version), but i watch the movie and i analyze the character and his actions and why he does what he does.
As always, you have a wonderful analysis. Joss Whedon's Justice League was a ridiculous offense to Zack as a filmmaker. I'm glad we're starting to see the issues in corporate filmmaking more and more
You know Warner even screwed over Joss Whedon right? His cut I remember was supposed to be 3 hours but warnerbros forced him to cut it further and then used Joss as fodder when it fell apart..
I loved the Snyder cut for not being the greatest thing but the fact that it happened. Although most of the concepts of his story are underdeveloped or half thought through, it's inspiring to see fans who love these characters pressure for the existence of this movie. That the director got his vision out there. It's justice to him as well as the fans. It doesn't need to be perfect, I'm watching it for what it's trying to be and I respect it.
I love the trilogy, it's one of the best CBM trilogies of all time for me and more. It's true that the story can easily can be shown better with 2 movies more but the limits by the studio, zack pulled it off. MoS, BvS UE and ZSJL are genuinely among my favorite superhero movies right with spidey 2, ITSV, The winter soldier, IW, Logan, Batman begins, TDK etc. These movies aren't the best because they're the same, but they're the best because they're so different from each other.
Regardless of ones opinion of the movie, It was good to see Zack finish the project he worked hard on whether he chooses to continue his vision or move on to other things.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut. The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on. Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans, Quote Tweet this thread twitter.com/AlistairPBloom1/status/1375301528446099456?s=19 with the appropriate @s and #RestoreUncutLittleShopOfHorrors
If you didn't love Zack Snyder's Superman, you should watch: Superman Man of Tomorrow (an animated movie from last year) and read All Star Superman (or watch its animated movie). Those are great modern interpretations of Superman
There was also the recent Superman Smashes the Klan comic which was also really good. Also, it's not that hard to find something better than Snyder's Superman. Also, there's this great short film by Jake Thomas titled "One on One" which explores what Superman is at his core: a friend.
Love it Alex. Very cool to see you express positive feelings about something you didn't love. I think that is very important in todays society. Damn I really said society. Also liked to that you used the outro from the Batman Doesn't Kill Video lol.
Thé way you articulate your words in this video is *BREATHTAKING* I was speechless my friend. It’s like a love letter to Zack, to his fans, to us and to your past self. You’re a genius !!!
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Thanks to Bailey for joining me in this Snyder Journey, and Thank *YOU* all for putting up with me. *Much love.*
Hi hitop films :D
Wait what? You gush over Sam Raimi and the Director of Batman Forever yet didn't love Zacks real Justice League?
WandaVision review?
Yo this is like the first time finding your video in 4 seconds
Lovable Hack
"When I was 13yo, I saw Man of Steel"
Why does this guy feel older than me when we're the same age...
a young man who takes initiative to be open-minded, productive, and humble about it will always have that mature vibe around them
Maybe has something to do with being well spoken. Hes super good at sharing his opinion without being a baby about it, at least from my point of view
He always manages to make me feel old as shit.
Ayo I was 7
Yeah I feel the same. I was so confused I thought this dude was older than me
Regardless if you loved it or hated it, I'm just glad Zack Snyder got to finally complete his finished project. For Autumn.
for autumn
For Autumn :,v
True
Very true. While I agree with what you said, I hope this movie will be a hit and AT&T orders the Snyder verse to continue.
My thoughts exactly and on top of that I actually enjoyed this movie over his previous dceu movies
6:20 “The critics, audience, pretty much everyone prefers his FILM to their PRODUCT.”
Dude that line is brilliant🔥
Even though you didn't like it, it's always great to see a director's true vision.
Who cares nerd
@@HistoryandReviews
me and people who liked their comment care
@@HistoryandReviews Please say the use of 'nerd' was ironic.
@@HistoryandReviews are you gonna call him a doofus too?
@@HistoryandReviews if you don’t care then um why are u here? 🤨
This film is presented in a 4:3 format to preserve the integrity of HiTop Film's creative vision.
They really think our eyes are vertical lmaoooo
Black and White version coming soon?
@@someluckyboy76 It is actually coming lol.
@@Flome810 except, they are. Look straight ahead, focussing on one point. Now notice your peripheral vision without averting your eyes. Now make the “director hands” with both your thumbs and index fingers and put them right at the edges of your view without moving your eyes - so, one hand in the top left and one in the bottom right at the point where they are furthest without dropping out of view. Then notice the shape you’ve drawn. That shit is a square 🤣
@@Flome810 well superheroes are vertical figures. They stand proudly and tends not to back down. Emphasizing the verticalness of the their figure, snyder chose a square frame. But it doesnt mean the sides are cropped. In fact, you could easily make the film widescreen by cropping to top and bottom without losing anything. Becayse zack designed it that way. And in fact the whedon cut used that technique to launch his version
Zach's cinematography feels like he seamlessly pieced together hundreds of epic comic panals into one movie and that is respectable. Marvel makes more faithful movies thematically, but Zach makes movies that actually look like comic books truly brought to life
I have a newfound respect for Henry Cavill after I found out he built his own PC. Superman is a gamer.
hell yeah, PCMR FTW.
😂
I mean... It's not really that hard... Anyone can build a pc if they research it enough.
@@reklem2 took me about a day, after doing research and while posting questions on sms. It's pretty safe in general as long as one follows directions precisely.
*I LOVE WITCHER 3*
“Faith, Alfred. Faith.”
I love Batfleck’s character arc from Batman vs Superman to Justice League. In BvS, he was broken, hateful, and alone. But, Superman’s sacrifice showed him that there’s still good in the world. In Justice League, he’s rejuvenated and enjoys the company of others. He believes in the team, the people around him, he cares for all of them. The final scene with Bruce standing outside, smiling and looking at the sunset, that was brilliant. He knew his parents were proud of him, and he finally found peace.
I feel like he was written very inconsistent. I’m BvS Bruce us very secretive and strong but in ZSJL Batman gets beaten up by everyone and reveals himslef to everyone
@@aaronm4841 he was beaten up by aliens and he said it himself. "Alfred for once I am acting strictly on faith." That's not inconstancy... that's growth. You see it at the end of BvS when he makes the "men are still good" speech
*inconsistency*
@@yeetcity2704 oh really? Bc in the previous movie he was in a fight with Superman then doomsday and that faith line he was referring to Superman helping them. The Batman I KNOW, from any other media would of never been beaten up by a bug.
@@aaronm4841 ...it's a PARADEMON. The reanimated corpse of other aliens. And the faith line was about Superman coming to help them. Also Batman is a regular human fighting against incredibly strong aliens. Ofc he's going to struggle
I disagree with his opinion. But I absolutely RESPECT his honesty. Everybody should have the right to express their thoughts on a movie. Movies are subjective, just like any other form of art.
yeah i liked his opinion its basically
"i dont like this film but its my opinion" unlike other people said things like
"this movie is trash and everyone should agree with me"
A Zack Snyder fan who respects an opinion they disagree, holy shit.
@@thefvguy5648 lol
Movies arent subjective, whether you like a film or not is subjective
A film being good or bad has a great objective value that cant be denied
@@nra3zehuti781 How do you determine somethings objective value though? Everyone has a different view on what makes a movie good or bad because everyone is different. I don't enjoy the lord of the rings and I dislike a batman who uses guns but that is my viewpoint. Value isn't something that can be determined objectively when it comes to stories because while people like horror I don't, to them it has value, to me it does not. You can't say whether or not something has value objectively only whether or not it has value to you.
Please don't ever be sorry for being passionate about movies and then passionately sharing your viewpoints on them. Regardless of whether anyone agrees with your critiques (I disagree with about half of them and align with the rest), you always explain your contention articulately and in a logical fashion, and from one film geek to another, I appreciate that shit immensely.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans,
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Can we talk about how neglected green lantern has been? My boy had one bad movie and now he is never to be seen apart from a tiny reference in a 4 hour movie.
read comics. they'd butcher him on screen again anyway. Especially since he's republican.
WB took out John Stewart, even in the damn Snyder cut, in place for Martian Manhunter. Cool (for me, personally), but put some shame above their heads for this move
@@Frogman1212 oh god NOT POLITICS
@@wyattcampbell2077 It's true though.
@@Frogman1212 a film maker wouldnt care that "he's a Republican" though. Also just about all comic book writers and artists are leftists so maybe if you're so obsessed with politics, you should stop consuming comic movies and books lol
I don’t love Snyder’s Batman, but I can just enjoy him as a badass Batman. I stand behind you that he doesn’t kill, I just view it as a different universe.
He doesn't kill anymore since Superman died
in the comics, batman literally wanted to kill joker because joker had killed robin, so tell me what's not comic accurate?
@@Alisalah_24 they don't know a shit about comics
They just know to hate snyder
people are too hung up that its not "their batman". It doesnt have to be. We have had 6 different iterations, each one very different. Each one refreshing. Even marvel reinvented characters like Thor. Thor 3 was really fun, but its "not my thor". Is it good? yes. Is it accurate. No. Just like Zachs batman/superman are controversial, but he executed his controversial vision perfectly
@General Skywalker Who did he kill in Justice League?
“He’s just a sweetheart who wants to get home”
*throws several horses*
Funniest part of the video. Honestly I agree though, didn’t think I’d be feeling sympathy for steppenwolf.
Weirdly, that was my strongest after-thought as the movie ended and everything faded. All that was left behind was a strange sense of unease at how Steppenwolf was slaughtered and discarded in seconds, after having hustled all through the movie. :l
I thought something got better with his character. Then its just get worse, didnt care at all even he's bombarded by supes aquaman and WW. Its the movie about JL anyway, doesnt really matter to me.
@@simonbright2975 I felt the exact same way. His story is pretty tragic and depressing. He gets constantly bullied, taunted, and insulted by his fellow New Gods. All he wants to do is please Darkseid, and go home. And how does his story end? With his head getting crushed by the very person he only wanted to please, as the life in his eyes slowly fades away.
"He will be pleased. He will see my worth again."
"Please, we have families!" "Then you have weakness."
@@The_Boys_Archive Yeah. I think it was kind of icky. Maybe they'll explain it if they ever make a sequel but for now, his character still felt like it was made for the sole purpose of being a gigantic plot device.
I actually wanted him to win ngl
This the best take I've seen on the Snyder Cut. I was also never going to like this movie, but the fact that he got to finish his vision with such passion deserves all the respect in the world. Great video, man.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
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Didn't liked it as much as I thought I would. The characters build up of flash Cyborg and Aquaman took too much place in the movie. At the 2nd and 3rd hour I was just wondering where's the action. Its like the story was moving at turtle speed. Didn't liked batman changing his personality, Martian Manhunter introduction. Oh and Jesus batman cowl in the kryptonian ship is just a NO. I thought it was a whedon cut. Nightmare scene was one of the best things of this movie. Flash was great too. Cyborg was great in many ways but in a way leaving flash's story on the side just doesn't make sense to me.
Wonder woman was great she did a lot. But the team up work wasn't good. I don't like the recent mcu but hell their team up work is much better. Snyder is better at solo movies then movies with several heroes. I'd rather watch bvs. I know it's contradictory but snyder was able to tell 2 stories in 3 hours while in JL, he wasmaking 4 stories in 4 hours while the plot should be centered not put apart.
*THAT'S WHY YOU MAKE SOLO MOVIES*
The dialogue isn't great some of them are cringe. And I rarely do. Too much slow mo and song choices are just a NO. I prefer the heroes theme. The only theme I can clearly remember is WW.
@@Dimmary the dialogue in the movie is cringe and you fucking like avengers? Lmfao. My guy they were talking about FORTNITE in avengers 😂😂
@@benedicto2031 lol Im not even an mcu fan but the dialogue could have been improved. Flash is cringe. I like Avengers but I im a Dc fan for life. It doesn't mean Avengers is better it just mean that Avengers was better built. At least the comedy goes with the universe. That's why I prefer Bvs over JL. Bvs is dark and shows the reality of the dc universe. Oh well that's just my opinion. Respect it, discuss it, or rage in npc scream.
@@Dimmary you sound like a kid who just uses “cringe” for anything. How is flash cringe?
I dislike these movies, but I'm glad he got to tell his own story.
That's the most important part...right?
I agree, me.
I would argue that’s exactly the most important part! When films were first created so many years ago, they weren’t corporate blockbusters with millions of dollars backing the film. They were small, confined artistic stories told on a small budget, usually making no money in the long run. It was about the vision to tell a story first and foremost
That's right spidey 💪
Warner bros fucked him over hard and chose defend one of the most vile pieces of shit in Hollywood to bury this movie. Regardless of how you feel about the merit of Snyder's work, regardless of how irritating the fans and cultists can be, letting this movie be released was unambiguously the right thing to do.
The problem for people like us is The fanboys screaming for his snyder verse to be restored
I actually thought it was a decent Spider-Man movie
Yeah me too
Eh, it didn't have enough pizza for my liking
@@miguelcastillo3723 Or rent
@@trevorphilips9065 Actually, I think Peter finally being able to pay for rent was great development.
@@miguelcastillo3723 you'll get your pizza when you'll fix this damn door!
Me after seeing the Snyder cut and looking back at BVS and MOS: Perhaps I treated you too harshly.
I actually liked those films haha, I don’t like suicide squad or wonderwomen (the new one) or the birds of prey thing
I loved those movies.
I've always loved those movies
Nah those movies still suck ass
@@ThrawnaDelRey ok 😐
Apparently Zach Snyder is one of the nicest guys in the industry. I’m glad he was able to finish his project.
He's the absolute inverse of Joss Whedon. Whedon can make a "conventionally good" movie or show, do things formulaic but he's ultimately a piece of animal shit. Snyder makes movies that are genuinely baffling most of the time in every way, but he's a pretty cool dude and the cost obviously LOVED working with him.
Zack Snyder’s Justice League was NOT a good Spider-man movie
That’s pretty much what I’m getting from this video, damn you 30 year old senior high schooler Tobey
@@paulmajano in recent years though after much thought and repeating what people said about Tom Holland being the best Spiderman because "he's young and makes quips" I realized I was wrong and that 30 year old American sweetheart Tobey Maguire is actually the best Spiderman
@@paulmajano yeah bro, dude gets way to deep
@@paulmajano age doesn’t matter with quality
@@Spongebrain97 very tru he's literally one of the ppl who helped shape so many superhero movies future
The biggest tragedy that came out of this universe was the wasted potential of the actors as the castings were solid as hell.
Kal-El no
@Bing Boom Pow bro I think you're mad at the writing and direction. Ben Affleck and grumpy older batman was great to me. Idk what to tell you. Jared Leto being bad is fair, then again that more of a suicide squad problem then a Zack problem.
@Bing Boom Pow ben affleck was perfect for batman
Ben Affleck could have been perfect for Batman, especially with the body type. If only the writing was more faithful
@Bing Boom Pow Can you get more subjective? Have you seen any other movie he's been in?
This version of Steppenwolf is probs my favorite character in the movie. Guy's just trying to redeem himself and be the cool uncle!
The problem is that he's trying to be Darkseid's cool uncle, and his redemption consists in enslaving everything to Darkseid.
But the intention is there!
i just realised that if u pause the film at anytime every scene looks like a piece of art
bc it is
Say what you want about Zack’s movies but can we at least agree that his visual style amazing, his shots are wallpaper worthy
Well that's something you can always say about him. He's a better version of Micheal Bay. Amazing visual director. Likes making women look good. Just needs work on character. Only difference is MB doesn't try and Zach I feel does.
I can’t agree. Yes the shots are usually great but he ruins those shots with some really bad and drab color grading ESPECIALLY in justice league.
yes I agree but I think i had a stroke half-way reading you're comment lol
(no offense tho)
@@vjbd2757 I disagree
The amount of overused slo-mo in the shots is stupid, we’re watching a movie not a montage smh
Besides the “looking cool” side, the point of Superman’s Black Suit is to absorb more Sunlight than the regular red & blue suit. That’s why he immediately flies to the Sun after putting it on
Yeah don’t know how hitop missed this
It would've been nice if they explained this in the movie, like they had time for Darkseids backstory and Lois Lane but couldn't even spare a few seconds to explain why Superman wears the black suit now?
@@maldon3659 they couldn't explain it because WB didn't want superman to dawn the black suit ever so that scene couldn't be shot cause WB would shot it down. Also in man of steel, I believe the black suit was explained as a kryptonian heritage. That's why In the vision with Zod, superman suit becomes black among the sea of human of skulls. the blue custom is worn for more diplomatic reasons. Black I believe was representation of going to battle. If it's heritage then that explains both his dad speaking, signifying superman accepted both his heritage full heartedly.
I kinda assumed that's why he wore it so it's kinda cool that it's actually tru
@@JNeedleVids I don’t think people need to be told the basic science of the color black. Why not have it be visually explained like having Superman immediately fly into space to bask in the sun?
Synder’s Justice League actually made me like Affleck’s Batman. He was different from how he was in the other films, and I really liked it.
After seeing the REAL Justice League, I'd go as far as to say that I want to see more Batfleck. I want to see more of the tourtured soul his aging Batman has become, and I want to see his dynamic with the Joker.
It actually has me hopeful for the future of DC films. Imagine James Gunn and David F. Sandberg teaming up with Zack Snyder for a Justice League sequel. Wishful thinking, I know, but there's a much better chance of that coming to be than there was before this cut of the film.
I'm glad you understand that he was just growing because some people ignore him in this and judge him off BVS still
@@If_Only_I_Knew_Why I love the idea of Ben Affleck’s Batman. I just feel like he suffered due to BvS script, the idea of a Batman that maybe has broken mentally and gone off the rails but eventually comes back to his senses could be cool. I’d wanna see how dark that journey could get before he redeems himself though. The sudden change from I wanna kill Superman to “your mother’s name is Martha” now I wanna be your friend is just pulled off poor in that movie, and I’ll never like it.
@@Harvester88 I agree with that completely. After I watched the Snyder Cut I immediately went back to rewatch BVS (ultimate cut). While there's a few things I don't like about the movie, I feel like understand them a little better. Batman actually killing people was my biggest gripe with the movie, but I shouldn't have ignored what Lex said earlier in the film about Superman "bending the rules to save Lois." Batman bent HIS rules to save Martha...
Also, the sheer amount of setup for JL is astounding and just makes it more infuriating that it was ALL scrapped for the Josstice League...
@@Harvester88 The "Martha" moments been explained to death. It makes perfect sense if you infer that Batman was suffering from PTSD.
Honestly as bad or good the story was, you can't tell me that this movie didn't have just awesome cinematography. The shots at the end with flash honestly looked fucking beautiful
yep, this is me when I go watch any Snyder movie. If I wanna go watch a compelling story, then I wouldn't watch his movie lol. I watch his movie to be amazed by the visuals, that's it really.
Heck yeah
Same. I was hyped af for the Snyder Cut the week it came out, but now I’ve come to the conclusion that even though Snyder’s films are visual marvels, he is not a great storyteller. I still really enjoy his films despite most of them being objectively not good.
Just wish the special effects were better. The fighting looked so weightless and rubbery
Idk, I never liked Snyder's aesthetic. Nothing looks real and the colors are so bad. Lots of slow mo as well and I'm never a fan of that lol
I really enjoyed the Snyder cut. I’m the kind of person who likes Snyder’s style of film making. I’d rather have a niche film only a minority of people enjoy then a huge “people pleaser” film made for everyone.
When Batman said he was going to "fucking kill" Joker, the ladder responded with "You almost had me there". I think that means that Batman doesn't kill anymore.
When he’s on the Battank he’s left some people for the police - - so yeah he got his “Faith” back and stopped killing
Though that does take place in the same future where he’s snapping superman’s soldier’s necks and shooting them with pistols
@@wolfen9226 They're corrupted by the Anti Life Equation man, they're basically zombies.
It only reminds me of how pointless him killing was in the grand scheme of things lol
@@wolfen9226 I think Zack framed it as a "dream" sequence on purpose.
it's always so interesting to see alex's opinions because he elaborates his points so well
And they’re always batshit insane
Eww imagine bieng named Alex
@@brawlco3176 ok brawl co
He did a 50 min video on his Batman forever was good 😂😂 credibility out the window
He always has to have to the unpopular opinion for sake of outrage reaction.
This is easily the most mature video you've ever created and it's been a ride to literally see you grow throughout your videos
The love and passion Zack has for his work is something I have always admired. He went through so much after losing his daughter. But he still came back to deliver his vision.
Whether this universe continues or not I'm still still grateful that a filmmaker finally got to show his vision.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
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I'll be honest I'm not a huge fan of Snyder's work, but I am in love with the visual style of this movie. Every one of his shots is like a painting that you could put up on a wall.
so in a way, given his visual style is his work...you actually like his work. What you dont like is this take of the story. Which was co written by others and meddled by studios
@@furythree That's a fair point.
And many stupid people say that "Correction. Snyder used the worst CGI in human history.".
@CYB3R2K30 it’s okay to say this stuff just don’t hate on Snyder or his family (not that you have done this).
@CYB3R2K30 yeah same you still tell a dark story with colors lol
I never felt your Snyder rant in the ‘Batman Does Not Kill’ video to be childish and petty. I mean, sure, it played up the humor and the fanboy angle, but it was not unfounded criticism that some others resort to.
I still think that this video for me, had more value, it talks about some things that I think could use some spreading around, the understanding that not everyone has to agree with you.
this is insane character development for HiTop, but i don’t think i’ll ever see him say the same thing about inaccuracies with MCU Spider-Man
Tbf I used to HATE homecoming and FFH. Even though I still think FFH is filled with plotholes I accept the version of Tom's spidey now. Just wish he gets better writers.
I think he (and honestly, I too) is never gonna get past the fact that ultimately, both Homecoming and FFH feel a lot like products and entertainment more than the vision of a real person behind the cameras. From I've seen on his videos, Alex in particular is all for movies and cinema being a form of expression for artists, and that's something that Disney's Spider-Man movies have always lacked and will probably always lack: a soul. In this video he basically said it: he might not like Snyder's version of the characters, but at the end of the day is SNYDER'S. Who is Iron-Boy Jr. version of? Certainly not Jon Watts, Kevin Feige? Maybe, but I don't think so; people like to applaud to Feige and everything for doing a successful cinematic universe and I agree, he did an amazing job with that, but ultimately he still responds to the suits on Disney and everything he does is gonna be aimed at pleasing them.
Zack Snyder, in the other hand, had little to no interference (until JL, of course) and you can see that both his movies and the interpretation of the characters in them are HIS, and I think, again, from what I've seen from Alex, that that's why he will have a hard time accepting MCU's Spider-Man. He is a character that is not only far from his comic book self (if he wasn't he could probably like him at least), but also written by a corporation, not a person, and he feels as such.
@@theankh2872 I don't know how to feel about Far From Home but Homecoming was a great movie. It felt like a teenage coming of age drama in the skin of a superhero flick. A lot of good movies have done this genre bending/mixing thing - TDK trilogy, Logan, etc.
The most memorable scene to me is when Liz's father opens the door and Peter beholds the Vulture. There's that moment of 0.0 and a creeping tension permeates, lingering till the end of the car scene - it then immediately translates into another tonal shift as a shell-shocked Peter numbly abandons Liz in pursuit of her father, only to end up buried under tons of rock, at the peak of his emotional turmoil, as if the world's weight was crushing him spiritually and physically. Jesus fuck is that such a brilliant bit of cinema.
So - idk if that's comic book accurate, but I loved it as a movie-goer's experience. It had character and depth, and I feel that there were real people behind creating it, rather than a corporation.
@@simonbright2975 Correct, Peter getting buried under rumble and saving himself is a famous comic moment.
that he dosent like it, but is okay since is made for other people besides him?
i think he pretty much said that in the far from home video.
*Why Zack Snyder’s Justice League was a Bad Spider-Man Movie*
Hey I remember seeing you on the Raimi soundtrack a couple years back
*Why Zack Snyder's Justice League is a good movie but a Bad Spider-Man Movie*
Wait what dc is marvel waa I didn’t know
@@c3phCD was it a comment I made on the Spider-Man 2 theme song about referring to Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire as Spider-Boy, Spider-Teen and Spider-Man?
@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX I think so!
The scene that moved me was Cyborg giving that family money and then you see in his facial expression how happy he was to help them.
I'd love to see more of this cyborg
Out of all the movies i have seen, This was definately one of them.
I have no idea how to understand that statement right there🤣
I disagree, it didn’t feel like one of them to me
It may be a controversial opinion, but I would say Justice League is one of the films ever made.
Whatever you’ve watched...you’ve seen.
@@literallyaspider1508 not even close bro it's just one of the films
the funniest thing about alex is how he’s most definitely the zack snyder of his youtube style
💯
LMAO
Exactly when he sees Zack he’s just looking in the mirror lol
@@kloserlook he’s a Younger Version of Zack
Nah
HiTop’s character arc has been as nice to see as Batfleck’s
ZSJL gets a 5% because of a house
Wwe
Never thought I’d see pllana on a hitops film vid. Also Jim cornette is wrong and Kenny is a great pro wrestler
Exactly I thought I missed something 😂
lmaoooo
@@leo_omega3736 he’s great but yah I agree with Jimmy
Thanks so much for letting me crash into your video for a bit, king. Unreal to work with you as always! Until next time 🙏
12:32 disagree with this point.
According to the lore the Black suit is a healing suit. And having that he basically was just revived it'd make sense that he'd wear the one that's better for recovery.
I still like alot of the points in this video but this is just a small thing.
Was that ever stated in the movie?
@@MugdhaMahdiShams more un the comics, the black suit make superman stronger. He can more absorb the sun energy
@@MugdhaMahdiShams there's no way it would've been explicitly stated since the studio didn't want the suit in the first place. The black suit was created by color correcting the normal one. It's only hinted at when he absorbs sun energy in it
They couldve just kept the iconic suit and the movie wouldn't change one bit. If you're changing the suit without any explanation as to why, then it does seem pointless.
@@dutchplanderlinde2779 it doesnt hurt the movie or character to change it either. personally i dont see an issue with it
I loved the film but quality doesn’t matter,a director who lost one of the most important things in his life got something amazing back in return and got to make his vision
Really true, I love the story behind the movie more than the movie itself, and the movie itself is also nothing to sneeze at
HiTop literally started this video saying I (the viewer) had already made up my mind but joke's on you, I never even saw the Snyder Cut! I just wanted to watch this video to get your option because I happened to like your opinions!
*SO WHO'S LAUGHING NOW HITOP??!! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!!!*
Obi-Wan calm down...
Emotional explosions are one step to the abyss of the Dark Side
I sense a disturbance...
The warehouse scene in BvS is one of the greatest action scenes in super hero movies to date, you don't get that with the no killing batman. This is a broader, bigger, more battered batman than we've seen on films prior, you took the grounded ninja approach with Bale already, this Bruce is twice the size why wouldn't he be a body builder gun slinging batman, realistically? He strikes you and he's easily breaking a bone, thats why all his opposition has been stronger or more equipped weapon wise. Makes you wonder how he would've matched up against Deathstroke..
With all said,, I loved the trilogy. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
"I was never going to love Zack Snyder's movie"
"Unless Spider-Man was in it."
(This is just a joke not taking shots at HighTop)
I never loved Spiderman movie either
Except for that which was tobey's first
Mcu fanboy
@@jonts7 _Sam Raimi's Justice League._ Now _that_ would be interesting.
#ReleaseTheRaimiCut
@@The_Boys_Archive
An entire scene of batman dancing in the streets while wearing a red and blue suit.
@@maddoxlacy9072 Haha, yeah. Don't forget the finger guns.
I have a defense for Batman threatening Joker "I will FUCKING kill you": look at the setting. It's the post-apocalyptic Knightmare future, where Darkseid has taken over the Earth and destroyed human civilization. This is a Batman whose morals are pretty much thrown out the window for the sake of making sure he and his fellow survivors get Flash to successfully time travel into the past to change the future.
That’s not really a defense since Batman kills in the present day timeline anyway.
The way I took it, he was "merely" trying to mentally torture / scare Joker in that scene, because he is really, really pissed at him. Joker calls him out on that one. And I believe Joker nailed it there. He knows Batman will never do that. That's why he keeps taunting him.
@@JoshuaR9763 no he doesn't he only kills in bvs he didn't kill before nor after
@@bruhman1094 He still kills all the way through bvs and didn’t stop killing even after his supposed ark was finished (which being the Martha moment) and he continued to use guns in the justice league and didn’t fight crime so he didn’t get to kill anyone human but if he did he still was never implied that he would stop killing (no the Martha moment isn’t implying that at all as he literally commits homicide the scene directly afterwards just in case u were thinking that) and he also kills parademons but parademons is debatable if that’s considered breaking his role so he technically does still kill because he’s never been given a actual reason to stop or said himself or at least hinted he would 🤣 also we got no clue if he killed before bvs so u can’t really make that statement 🤣
Sorry if this came off as if I’m getting mad or something I’m genuinely not 🤣
@@JoshuaR9763 in justice league the scene where batman is standing on top of the bat tank if you look closely there are some mutant gang members tied and beaten up on the bottom left corner and that leads us that he stopped killing and btw his arc in bvs ended after superman died then he realised what he has done and that his ways were wrong. you may ask why did he kill the criminals that were in the warehouse fight scene he killed them because he was trying to stop a boy getting his mother killed so he saw the reflection in superman that his mother (martha) is like Clark's mother (also martha) so he did everything he can to prevent a boy getting his martha taken away from him. Sorry for my bad English im not used to talk english often
I get it. You respect the artist just not the art. I know how that is. I have a friend who used to have his own youtube review channel. And I would disagree with a lot of what he said. (and I do mean a LOT) But I always kept watching because it was authentically his thing. It was unique and I appreciated that.
I’m just happy that Zack finally got to fulfill his own film the way he wanted to after going through a tough loss.
(BTW Guardians of Ga’hoole is really good)
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
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We will use the old ways.
Ready the hashtags.
#restorethesnyderverse
It’s #restorethesnyderverse but I get where you’re coming from
@@randomknowledgeperson2872 changed it I’ve been used to the other for so long lol
@@greengoblin4life lol
Your pfp is good, your opinion is good
No
12:32, the movie literally shows him going to the sun to absorb it more (black suit, black, sunbeam...)
that was the point i stopped watching
I have to say that I agreed with you. As much as I wanted to be ready to hate your opinion, I agree with you. It wasn’t made for you but it serves the same artistic expression that we both can get behind. It is as you said, “It is 100% Zack Snyder.”
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans,
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At this point, I feel like it’s inevitable that we see the SnyderVerse restored. These movies have generated more noise and garnered more attention than any of WB previous films, and future DC movies to come. If Warner don’t capitalise, it’d be one if the biggest missed opportunities in film history. The money is literally there for the taking.
To do that would mean bringing him back on and how everything went down I wouldn't blame Zack for not coming back
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
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Tbh, I wouldn't call it biggest opportunity in film history. HBO max still has less than 100 million subscribers at the moment (only around 40 million at the start of this year). It is hard to say that the amount viewers of Snyder Cut will even match the amount for the theatrical version, especially so when you consider the international markets (many Asian countries are filled to the brim with their own streaming services).
I saw the Snydercut, and I didn't like it, but it was certainly better than the theatrical version. Many of Snyder's polarizing style is certainly still there and will remain polarizing to the general audience. WB has already tasted some success with their non-Snyder styled films in Aquaman and the new Joker film, and based off of their upcoming slate of films, I don't think that WB is leaning towards the restoration of the SnyderVerse. Affleck has also departed and Pattison is already under contract to play Batman in the upcoming solo flick, and based off of WB's cartoon history (They absolutely hate having two different versions of the same character at a concurrent time). Cavill's status is also up in the air.
It's not just about WB, it's also about Zack. I don't think he's currently willing to work with them again.
It's gonna need to make a lot of money at least 700 million dollars to get a similar budget to his previous films.
12:28 Superman is not wearing black costume for no reason. Black costume helps him absorbe more sunlight than the regular one.
Does Superman need to absorb Yellow sun radiation more easily after he defeated the entire justice league more easily than Steppenwolf ever did? I honestly don't think so.
@@StareachValcin did superman know what threat he was facing?
No he did not.
@@jammygamer8961 fair point, but it doesn't change the fact that Superman didn't need the black suit to absorb Yellow sun radiation faster. In fact between Superman being revived because he is needed, and how he easily defeated the entire justice league, Superman knew to an extent that he could most likely deal with the threat before he even put on the black suit.
@@StareachValcin Yep you are right he could most likely beat the threat.
But its best to increase that chance as much as possible
@@jammygamer8961 even if that were the case, Superman should have stopped wearing the black suit after the threat of Steppenwolf was stopped. Superman continuing to wear the black suit only foreshadows something darker.
Snyder Cut was a good movie, it just wasn't a good Spider-Man movie
Hi-Top in a nutshell
This was honestly the best DCEU film Zack directed. It actually feels hopeful for me and not everything made me miserable 90% of the time.
Well done Zack. Well done man. May Autumn rest in piece.
Not in piece bro.. Fix it!
I felt the same way. I was pretty shocked how little of the brooding, depressing bs there was in this compared to his other DC films.
Aside from the epilogue anyway, that part felt like BvS all over again, I'll probably just skip it on future rewatches.
@@marvelfannumber1 speaking of the Knightmare sequence, notice how crappy the CGI looked in comparison to the rest of the film?
@@guspeixoto7740
Yeah, like I said, it felt like BvS all over. The CG looked worse, the sepia tone cinematography was obnoxious, the dialogue was deranged and Jared Leto's Joker was...well, Jared Leto's Joker. It was pretty bad in my opinion, and the entire sequence felt very hamfisted and unnecessary since the whole Knightmare thing was already alluded to much better earlier in the film.
I think once you get to the part where Clark opens up his shirt to reveal the Superman logo, you can just turn the movie off and not miss anything noteworthy. The rest of the movie had a pretty good combination of humor and serious stakes, but that part just went completely off the rails again.
@@marvelfannumber1 the only dialogue between Leto and Batfleck I liked was: You wouldn’t kill me, I’m your best friend.
That part kinda says their history in 3 seconds.
Znyder movies are basically a wallpaper. It’s beautiful.
@samy if that is true, then his characters will be juvenile comedians
@sommy ben sadly, phase 2 and 3 start to be more childish in my opinion
@samyy I totally disagree
@@kartikadewi3270 lol it's ironic when phase one that is heavily focused on drama and character study and development. People hates the movie and almost every phase one movie doesn't meet the expectations. only when they became playful is when the mcu finally sells
@@Shoegazebasedgenre0. and for me,
Phase 1 is surprisingly art in general.
I am even surprised that no one see mcu phase 1 and 2 as art in my opinion
I personally loved ZSJL, but I can absolutely understand why you or anyone wouldn’t!! I’m just happy that Zack finally got to release his version of Justice League.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
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@Gentleman Murk What the hell is racebent
@Gentleman Murk ..They are still white what are you talking about
@Gentleman Murk Yes MIXED with Caucasian and it doesnt matter that much anyway because they look mostly white
@Gentleman Murk “This movie sucked cause Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and flash got racebent.”
So...... you go onto a comment section from a guy who said he personally liked the movie to tell him it sucks because they changed the race of the characters? Now you’re saying they aren’t WHITE ENOUGH. First of all a movie isn’t degraded by race changing what affects a film for it to be worthy of it to “suck” is plot, story, and execution (but that comes to personal preference) secondly saying they aren’t white “enough” is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read I’ve read dumb comments but I’m genuinely serious this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. Ezra is white so you’re wrong there. Aquaman has a shade more darker then that blonde hair dream boy but nothing of his race affects the movies, Wonder Woman is also white so you are wrong again. Honestly man lol.
Such a great video. HiTop at his best.
Don't watch this! Spoilers dude you have yet to react to this.
when ks MFW Zack Snyder's Justice League comin?
@@ChikaVelja_ Tomorrow
Unfortunately, can't agree. This video is mostly an emotional gibberish.
Fleyk but what are emotions if not opinions persevering
I’m not sure what his problem with Superman’s return is. The black costume, aside from being a callback to the comics also makes sense from an in-universe perspective because it allows Superman to absorb more of the suns energy more quickly. Along with that, I’m not sure how they want him to be a “beacon of hope” when fighting Steppenwolf. Superman beats the shit out of him because it’s necessary to stop his plan for terraforming the earth and allowing Darkseid to invade. There’s no compromise with villains like these so I’m curious how these two would’ve changed Superman’s role in that final fight scene
Beautifully put. I also never liked Zack Snyder's previous DC work and I didn't like this movie all that much, but I'm glad it was made and I'm glad it was able to be released completely uncompromised.
Fun fact: it was Still compromised. The ending with Martian had to be Jon Stewart
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
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Even if Zack Snyder’s DC movies aren’t MY DC characters... these movies made me feel something that Marvel hasn’t made me feel in a while. I love what Zack did, he brought his vision that no one else can EVER do with their movies. Honestly, I’m kinda speechless in how I love the film. It isn’t perfect, there’s still things I wish they did, but it still gives me hope for what other film makers can do. And I want them to #restorethesnyderverse
I will continue watching all marvel tv series, movies, etc. that they make, but all their stuff is just fun at the end of the day. Zack portrays all his heroes as gods - fallible, human, and yet gods. His vision is something quite different than what you expect from a comic book movie, but I think that it matches the vibe of actual comic books, which also sometimes on the same issues as Zack
@@joysanghavi13 Exactly How I feel
After Watching TFATWS For some Reason Marvel doesn’t Feel Like Marvel to me,It feels Oversaturated and Kinda Boring
I will Keep Watching But I won’t see Every Marvel Movie/Show Anymore
Like How I used to before
Lmao dc fans are so stupid. Even though we didn't like it and he ruined DC for the next five and the last ten years... ATLEAST ZACK IS HAPPY
@@user-vn7tm5ht5g if zack ruined dc,
Then he will make them fake chris reeve, fake chris bale, fake lynda carter, fake grant gustin OR juvenile comedisns
@@user-vn7tm5ht5g My guy who says we aren't happy, this film was loved by a lot of people.
He doesn't care if this movie was great or bad, he's cares about what filmmakers do for passion in films and make that storytelling great as much as possible they can.
I personally think Superman isn’t a god, he’s just a guy trying to do the right thing.
Superman is a human who happens to be an alien, that's it. He isn't a god despite there being in universe (and off universe too lol) people who think of him as such. He is just, as you say, a guy who tries to do the right thing but just happens to have incredible abilities to do so; but apart from his gits, he has the soul, heart and mind of a man because he was raised and taught as such, he is a SuperMAN.
@@theankh2872 yessir, 1000% agreed
I'm starting a new religion wanna hop in!?
@@theankh2872 That's what he was originally meant to be, but now he's just hollywood's representation of the antichrist
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 what are you talking about, the religious symbolism of his last movies has obviously elevated the character to eights never seen before. Clearly Christopher's Reeve boy scout Superman has nothing on Snyder's Superjesus... I mean Superman.
/s.
Whether or not you liked the film, you have to admit this is huge not only for hollywood but for the entire entertainment industry in general.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Snyder Bros ZzZz
Can you explain why it's so monumental for both Hollywood and the entertainment industry. I liked the film but I think it's safe to say that you are overestimating it's reach and it's quality. I'm genuinely interested in why you think that this movie is so impactful so please reply
@@CD-603 its monumental as fans can make enough impact on a movie that they respond and do something about it
@@CD-603 because the audience made a company bring back the director to finish his movie through a hashtag. It's not about if you liked the movie or not, it's about an artist finishing a project he wasn't allowed to finish before. I didn't like the movie that much but #restorethesnyderverse
@@TheCapedArtist Then in that case: #RestoreSpider-Man4
12:30 Clark wasn’t depressed during the Knightmare scene, Darkseid used the anti-life equation to control Clark’s will and he becomes Darkseids slave forced to do his bidding. If you don’t know why Clark would join the man who kills his pregnant wife, it’s because he doesn’t. The anti life equation can control the will of any being in the universe.
This! I don't understand how people couldn't see this
@@TheDarkMaster312 I'd say some people don't read comics, or look up details via wikis. Or they just...can't draw the same conclusion.
HiTop Films : “I didn’t love Snyder Cut”
Fans : “So You have chosen death.”
theyre not fans , theyre just fan boys . big difference
More like brigades
Yeah whatever.. Brigade or fanboy, I just watched it, enjoyed it, forgot it.
You mean Snyderbots
Can people stop with these memes ? Seriously it’s not funny if everybody and they momma do it . Like jus say how you liked the movie . Not oh perfectly balanced as everything should be or the fact hitops films topic on this discussion was inevitable. Like STOP . If you need a picture with a “joke” in order to stay alive seek therapy
One thing about HiTop films is that he’s too obsessed with comic book films being relatable to us, like how the Peter Parker in the Rami films has relatable issues in his life but the reality of the situation is that these are COMIC BOOK movies, they’re about superheroes, gods, mythical creatures, men dressed in costumes, it doesn’t always have to be relatable and have this strong human feel to it.
I’m not saying it should have a heartless feel to it or no human type moments but we don’t need to be hell bent on having them in there.
What is not relatable about Alfred worrying about Diana scalding his tea? Or Superman hugging two of the most important women to him so passionately with the dusky sun? I kinda disagree with Hitop on that. background?
True but Spider-Man is not a good example of that because in his personal life he's just a normal kid with the same problems as everyone else. Since his inception he was relatable. Even superman can be made relatable. The only world he's ever known is earth where he was raised from a baby by 2 farmers and had a pretty normal upbringing. Obviously that depends on the writer and to begin with in the 30s he was basically just a god there to save people but I think he's proof that any character can be relatable when you have a good writer. But I agree they don't have to be relatable to be enjoyable. As long as the art is nice, I'm probably gonna enjoy the comic regardless if the characters are relatable
MoS is very relatable, it's a story about an adopted boy who wants to be accepted in a world which is afraid of him.
BvS is about unreasonable anger and hate for someone different than you.
JL is about being alone and being broken and trying to form your own future by changing your own past.
The trilogy is very relatable people just don't perceive them as such.
Spider-Man is not a good example because he’s meant to be just a random no one. Tony Stark is a millionare. Thor is also a god. Marvel has their larger than life characters, but Spider-Man is so successful BECAUSE his character is so grounded to the average normal man. At least the Peter Parker side.
I'm still confused why that other guy didn't like it. So he didn't like the aspect ratio? Where you see more? No wait, he said that he didn't like that there weren't any human moments, so he didn't watch when flash talks to his dad? Or when Cyborg talks to his mother? Or maybe at the end when Bruce buys the bank for Clark's mom?
the whole clark returning to the farm scene alone is emotion. clark returning to the fortress is emotional alone! im sick of people saying theres no emotions in these films. thats a flat out lie
I think he just meant that a lot of moments were visually/thematically treated in a grander way than they needed to be.
@@simonbright2975 yes thats exactly what he said and meant. But at the same time human moments don't need to be shot hand held for no reason. This shot of Clark Lois and his mom matched the rest of the film and acted as his grand return. One good example of shaky cam would be the ending of infinity war which acts as the starting point for endgame: the dusting of hawkeyes family that was done well hand held.
@@acronvron9665 I don't think so. That shot was also an emotional payoff for Martha and Lois. It wasn't just about Clark. It didn't need to be his grand return. It was a human moment.
But whatever, I don't mind because I was never that emotionally invested in the movie, except maybe for Cyborg and the Flash, so that didn't bother me. I can see both interpretations. Just because you feel one way, doesn't mean he can't feel another.
The other guy is fucked af he loved BvS but hated JL? He only want to troll us like always saying he got "depressed" is he fucking serius? why Hitops worked with him if this video was only about his opinion?
Alex wtf?
This movement was about more than just seeing some movie that never truly came out, it’s much larger than. This needs to be a message to studios that THEY are not in charge. Their sole purpose is to fund and make sure their movies are making money THATS ALL. No more no less. Artists must make art, and not a bunch of suits who only care about their own corporate agenda. Imagine in 50 years from now the museum owner tells the painter to leave something out of his mural, or the Producer tells the song artist to make his album more kid friendly to sell more record labels even though he/she is trying to talk about a life experience that occurred to them in their music. That’s such a grim world where art is dictated by companies and it’s a world I don’t want to live in. Say what you want about this film love it/hate it/fucking despise it and want it to burn like it’s original theatrical release, IT NEEDED TO COME OUT. This director suffered the worst pain you can on this earth, the loss of a loved one and a bunch of suits had the audacity to take his vision, shit all over it and make a mockery of his art while handing it over to some hack director who didn’t nearly have the same connection to the cast/characters as his predecessor did. Shame on you WB. #RestoreTheSnyderverse #EndStudioInterference. This industry needs to change and with Snyder cuts releasing, and miracles like that Sonic movie getting reanimated there is hope yet. I’m just gonna say it again #RestoreTheSnyderverse.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans,
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Sure.
And then there were the bullying asshats.
@@luiginastro8831 Yeah, and the people who raised a LOT of money for suicide prevention.
@@luiginastro8831 like the "Hack Snyder" people, using whatever excuse they have to hate on Zack Snyder EVEN the death of his daughter? Meanwhile Snyder fans rise money for suicide prevention. Sure I see more people bullying the Snyder fans than them doing all the bullying.
Honestly a little heartbroken that you and Bailey didn't get as much from this movie as others, but still a great video. I think it's really encouraging that the general discourse around these movies - and hopefully all capeshit - is losing that mean-spirited edge that kinda defined it from 2016 onward. I loved the movie personally, though it's obviously not without flaws - but i'm glad we can all talk about it and celebrate it for what it is.
This is probably the most artistic movie with the highest budget ever made. My personal favorite now.
🥰🥰
I've never been so hype over the flash. That's how I knew snyder did a good job
I am vengeance. I am the night. I am THE SNYDER CUT.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans,
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You say Superman wore the black suit for no reason but we literally saw absorbing the suns rays using it. (black absorbs light better)
@James Howlett Because it doesn't need explaining if you know Superman
@James Howlett well how was they meant to do it?
People get upset when movies just drop exposition
@@jammygamer8961 maybe with a bit of vfx, show the suit absorbing solar rays idk
@@ahmedfawad16 good idea
We also watched Superman defeated the whole League without sunrays. So no, the suit was not needed.
Snyder cut was never about movie finally being good, it was about letting him finish his project that he had so much passion for. I liked it because it was finally his vision and I'm happy for Zack
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
Please help Little Shop Of Horrors fans,
Quote Tweet this thread
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I'm more interested in the characters getting justice than a director that only does things his way. Ultimately he got what he wanted. What about the icons that were in his movie. What did Zack justice league accomplish beyond himself.... we will see I guess. But Yay for Zack fuck everyone else right
Not to those Snyder Fans.
@@user-vn7tm5ht5g *Yes*
People really undercut this version just because a worse version exists beside it. It's an amazing and epic film to be honest unlike any other superhero film beyond it.
I have a defense for how Lois Lane is portrayed in Zack Snyder's Justice League. She's been on this epic journey with Clark ever since the Man of Steel, through thick and thin, and to see her witness the death of the love of her life is a rather tragic event. Most of her scenes in Justice League are her going through grief, REAL human grief, but is still trying to hold it together by doing something as simple as giving out coffee to a police officer (the way Superman looks out for the little guy) who notices she visits Clark's monument every single day while wearing the wedding ring he gave her. A lot of scenes with her are very intimate and cinematic, relying mostly on visual storytelling and little to no dialogue to showcase her grief. In the larger scheme of things, through Lois, we are also able to tell this world has been losing hope ever since Superman died. Amy Adams excelled well with the little to no dialogue in her scenes. And she still had a role to play in grounding Superman back to his humanity after the Mother Box resurrects him via the will of Bruce and his Justice League.
I can understand the criticism of how Lois Lane doesn't do much at all in Justice League, but I just hope you can understand where I'm coming from. Basically Lois had a subtle yet powerful role to play in bringing Clark back to who he is.
i completely agree with you. when i watched her scenes in the film, i could feel her emotions and grief, it must've been really really hard for her. somehow, i could understand what she feels at the moment. it was very impactful.
I know right, and the kinghtmare sequence it self is BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF LOIS and superman losing his humanity and giving in to murdering criminals and Humans alike. I mean Hitop did a video of how batman Killing criminals is not the heroes way for godsaskes and the nightmare timeline takes from the Injustice DC ideas of judging and Executing criminals and eventually ruling the world.
Zack has shown in movies the power of Mothers in plenty of his movies and has somehow overlooked.
@@IceCubE4425 That makes it sound like Superman views Lois as a mother figure. All kinds of wrong there.
You synder cult are so pathetic.
@@IceCubE4425 i don't think he became like injustice, he is just killing everybody, he truly becomes a villain just serving darkseid, and we all know that darkseid doesn't care about humans, so Superman probably doesn't even get to rule earth
I respect your opinion but I liked it. I’m glad to see the directors vision and also you’re not the only one who doesn’t like Joker I don’t like it either. But regardless of whether you liked it or hated the movie let’s just be glad we got to see Zack Snyder Original Vision for this Trilogy. #ForAutumn #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#ForAutumn
#restorethesnyderverse
#releasetheayercut
It's a good Justice League movie, but it's just....A BAD Spider-Man movie...
The revelation that Zack Snyder made the Guardians of Ga'Hoole movie just blew my mind wtf
i liked the film but i think it could of been significantly better. But i don't think this is Zacks fault but more the studio forcing it to be somewhat kid friendly by very heavily condensing the story and toning down the violence
It needed to be an hour longer, otherwise I love that movie as well.
If it was one thing I was excited for when hyping up for this movie was the characters Zack would provide us with.
And Zack did not disappointed. Especially Batman.
People will now look at Man of Steel or/and BvS and think differently in a way, saying, "this is what they start out as and this is what they will become."
I loved this movie, but I understand those who didn't loved it, and its fine, we are not robots programmed for thinking the same thing
This video gave me hope for opinions in this and the next generations. I feel like this is how rational people used to react to things they don’t agree with. It’s great to see a perspective like this. It’s so refreshing.
I understand people being passionate about these characters and stories like they should be, but I’m glad Zack got to a chance to show us his vision.
The problem with that scene where Batman is threatening the Joker is we don’t have a live action movie of Death in Family to give it context. That was one of the problems with Batman v Superman. Batman was too overdevelopment and too much of his character development was not shown to us. We don’t know why he is so broody entirely because we have not seen his second Robin die yet unless you have seen the animated movie Batman Under the Red Hood. Not all DC audiences have. It is not even cannon with this DCEU. Snyder is trying to make it cannon without showing it to us.
He wanted to show it to us in BvS, Warner says no. Now he sais that if he can made his second Justice League movie, he would show us Robin's death in the Wayne's Mannor.
I disagree with you on a lot of points in this video, but this video wasn't a review- it was a love letter to a director of films you didn't love as much as many of us.
Wow, You're really maturing HiTop... And that's awesome!
I love Zack Snyder’s DCEU and I disagree with pretty much everything you say about his interpretations but I always enjoyed your jokes,memes and Parodying of his Films and style no matter how much it goes against what I thought about him. Yeah we do exist. Fans who can enjoy both sides of the conversations and different opinions man. We do exist You just gotta look hard for us.
Obviously there is in every single thing in existence someone who likes that thing and see it great even perfect. The problem is that that thing will in a vaccume and in general be always associated to the majority view.
In the end it depends on your backgrounds and ideas.
Mostly backgrounds because they shape how we viewed heroes and they will subconsciously make us reject when something that should represent our ideas represent something different (which is litterely summerizing every video that criticize anything in phylosophical terms) that is why people who saw Superman and batman through snyder movies have way more chance of liking them than those who knew the heroes before
In the end we should all respect all of ideas and criticize them in the correct manner
I feel like Zack Snyder's vision of these characters was so different (especially of Batman and Superman, even tho i've always loved and liked his version of these two characters for the universe he built), original and experimental that people needed time to really start to appreciate it and understand it, not because they're dumb, but because his vision of these characters is very personal, and people needed time to fully understand, accept and like his vision of these characters and of the DCEU, because his take on them was very different.
Agreed 💯
Or, hear me out, his idea of dc characters is based off of skimming Wikipedia articles and glancing at the cover of TDKR. “Original” doesn’t mean good.
@@sterling9314 well it all depends on your perspective ig
@@sterling9314 In fact i didn't say it was good, i said it was original and personal, and the fact that it is personal doesn't make it appeal to anybody, love it or hate it, its very clear that his vision of these characters is very personal, because its true that he took inspiration for his Batman from The Dark Knight Returns, but he made his Batman (in BvS) even more exasperated than Frank Miller's Batman was.
He made him use guns, he made him kill, he made him brand criminals, and that's the point, his version of Batman (in BvS) was made/thought to be an anti-Batman, because after 20 years spent in Gotham fighting criminals he lost hope and faith in humanity, he basically told you that in 20 years he hasn't done anything that really matters for Gotham or for the world.
And that was his point, he was lost, and had lost hope, and at the end of the movie Superman's death gives him hope and faith (which is a word that is very used by Batman in ZSJL) again.
But apparently some people didn't quite get that, because (and now here we come to my initial point) his version of Batman was different and because it also had a different arc and development.
@@GabesEdtiz Yeah, exactly, it also depends from the perception people have of these charcaters, i've never read a comic book in my life, so it doesn't really bother me if a character is different from the comics (even tho, especially Ben Affleck's Batman, its not that distant from the Frank Miller's version), but i watch the movie and i analyze the character and his actions and why he does what he does.
As always, you have a wonderful analysis. Joss Whedon's Justice League was a ridiculous offense to Zack as a filmmaker. I'm glad we're starting to see the issues in corporate filmmaking more and more
You know Warner even screwed over Joss Whedon right? His cut I remember was supposed to be 3 hours but warnerbros forced him to cut it further and then used Joss as fodder when it fell apart..
@@CayeDaws he obviously drew the longer straw because Warner would rather stand by him than Snyder or the cast
I loved the Snyder cut for not being the greatest thing but the fact that it happened. Although most of the concepts of his story are underdeveloped or half thought through, it's inspiring to see fans who love these characters pressure for the existence of this movie. That the director got his vision out there. It's justice to him as well as the fans. It doesn't need to be perfect, I'm watching it for what it's trying to be and I respect it.
You sure love cheesy movies but I loved the Zack Snyder cut man it's amazing.
"Less heroic less Batman than anything" True. That's the point. That's an apocalyptic vision for what's possible.
No, he’s like he’s like that already. Even without the apocalypse. This Batman is trash
@@DisrespecfulSyrup imahine thinking entertainment is disgusting like garbage
Whether you like the film or not, it is okay. The film was really amazing and became one of my favorite superhero movies and 2021 movies :).
I love the trilogy, it's one of the best CBM trilogies of all time for me and more. It's true that the story can easily can be shown better with 2 movies more but the limits by the studio, zack pulled it off. MoS, BvS UE and ZSJL are genuinely among my favorite superhero movies right with spidey 2, ITSV, The winter soldier, IW, Logan, Batman begins, TDK etc. These movies aren't the best because they're the same, but they're the best because they're so different from each other.
Regardless of ones opinion of the movie, It was good to see Zack finish the project he worked hard on whether he chooses to continue his vision or move on to other things.
Little Shop Of Horrors' "Director's Cut" was not made by Frank Oz and still has all the reshoots and reedits from the Theatrical Cut, with the exception of having the original ending tacked on, so it isn't really the Director's Cut.
The "Director's Cut" we have is like if Warner Bros released "Zack Snyder's Justice League" but actually only gave us the Joss Whedon version with the ending from Zack's version tacked on.
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If you didn't love Zack Snyder's Superman, you should watch: Superman Man of Tomorrow (an animated movie from last year) and read All Star Superman (or watch its animated movie). Those are great modern interpretations of Superman
Agreed. I also recommend the animated Superman film Superman versus the elite. This is one of the best representations of what Superman stands for.
@@StareachValcin yes, can't believe i forgot that one
There was also the recent Superman Smashes the Klan comic which was also really good. Also, it's not that hard to find something better than Snyder's Superman.
Also, there's this great short film by Jake Thomas titled "One on One" which explores what Superman is at his core: a friend.
Superman: TAS was also good
Superman man of tomorrow was bad plus the archer animation style looks bad
Love it Alex. Very cool to see you express positive feelings about something you didn't love. I think that is very important in todays society. Damn I really said society. Also liked to that you used the outro from the Batman Doesn't Kill Video lol.
Thé way you articulate your words in this video is *BREATHTAKING* I was speechless my friend. It’s like a love letter to Zack, to his fans, to us and to your past self. You’re a genius !!!
The dude that said que only liked ZSJL about a %5 is just absurd