The BEST affordable ANTIQUE "Fighting" SWORD to get?
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I cannot overstate how much I think the 1896 pattern cavalry sword is a great design. Great blade, great guard, great grip. In this video we go into a bit more detail.
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@scholagladiatoria Matt, pls check the upload -- around the 9min mark, seems to fade into a vid of you holding and describing a talwar
@@lemonaid1796Thought the psychadelics were kicking in
You do love your cavalry swords don't you Matt.
if you are really on a budget I recommend a US M1941 cutlass for you can get 1 for under $500 & it is based on a Dutch M1898.
More recent more but with older features.
A 1804 pattern British cutlass will cost about £1300 if you want a more affordable sword from the Napoleonic period as these were made till 1845 if memory serves.
Never understood sword enthusiast getting cavalry sabres when most of them have never ridden much less fought on horse back like my grand father did for a spat though logistic corps being vehicle recovery under fire & such.
Mind he ditched swords as soon as he worked in motors as they just aren't practical for try drawing a knife much less sword in thick of it?
Mind in Korea they ran out of munitions & his dagger got lodged in a few fella more then once so had to result to tearing them apart with his bare hands that were near the size of dust bin lids.
Jim was built like gorilla & honestly if it isn't a firearm only a dagger, bayonet or hanger at stretch is practical in most situations.
He did find wresting & fisticuffs/ bareknuckle boxing same as he taught me was more useful then any training in melee arms as any blade is rather stright forward.
''stick em with sharp end & don't get stuck'' he'd say though that is harder done in practice then said.
Jim didn't like Kenya & said if you didn't know how to fight in a close you would have been ripped apart by an angry mob.
Jim also never understood why they bothered trying to help the natives their as they didn't want to help them self's.
My father isn't great close combat but after having a boa try eating him in central America in places he never was he took wrestling much more serious & acquired a fear of snakes.
Mind both of them always agreed a shovel & box of grenades was more use then a rifle or any small arm ever could be.
Artillery & big weapons platforms is what does the killing in modern war not people with small arms as that just something to scare off the natives that want to eat you!
Have you ever done a video, (or series) of videos on what you do when you take in a new blade, restoration, repair etc? I know I would love to know more about the subject. I know there is a lot to cover but I think people might like to see how a sword that might have seen better days can be bought back.
What's going on with your video man. 😂
It's my headcannon that Matt just made this video to see how much influence he has over the antique sword market.
LOL 🤣
Must... Buy... 19th century swords...
I am in fits, imagining a world filled with people whose heads are literally cannons, cities that are gigantic open air sword markets, and an entire society based on Schola Gladitoria. And whatever weapon or topic that is presented by Matt, their religious figure, determines the balance of wealth and power between the different merchants and manufacturers. 🤣
Well sonny I daresay theirs quite a lot of shite in your head,speak as an adult or go back school
He just so happens to be selling said blades methinks.
8:30, We just witnessed the moment when an alternate Matt Easton from Earth-83029 unintentionally switched places with the Matt Easton from our universe.
Everything everywhere... all at once
8:33 this is art.
I asked Matt what to buy 7 years ago. He said then what he says now. Within a week I bought one from him. To this day it is my favourite cut and dry training sword in a collection of 20 :)
Hurrah! Great to hear. Yes I've long considered this one of the nicest patterns of any nationality.
Sure Matt's already made videos the subject but I'd love to see the full 4 hour director's cut of this video showing the unscripted sidetrack on the 1896 Pattern and ending up with a tulwar in hands.
Many people ask what's better than one Matt Easton talking to the camera. The answer is two Matt Eastons talking simultaneously to the camera.
The bit around 8:36 was super trippy! Thanks!
I was going to comment this as well. @Scholaglatoria what happened?
I feel like being able to sit with your lads and have a pint while explaining how prepared you are for the zombie apocalypse by having fighting swords is enough of a reason to justify wanting a fighting sword.
I can't deny this. One of the great pleasures of life 😅
Buddy 1: "Yeah? And do you have a rotella? A full set of steel plate armor the standard thickness of the 1930s? Didn't think so!" *Takes a sip*
Guy with an AR-15: I killed 30 zombies today!
Guy with armor and sword comes in with several severed hands clinging to the steel: I survived an entire hoard.
@@Benjanuva Guy with AR-15: "What??! How?!!"
Guy With Sword And Armor: "You were only carrying 870 rounds of ammunition."
Guy With AR-15: "Only???! Do you know how heavy that much ammo is?"
Guy With Sword And Armor: "I wasn't finished... You were prepared for enemies who fight in range, but once they closed the distance the blunt punches from dead men's bones shattered that ceramic plate. You had to run away. Your rifle doesn't make a very good club I noticed. Oh well I just kept slashing."
Idk, for zombies, and if I was reduced to a non-firearm main weapon, I think I'd rather have a glaive type weapon than a sword...
I get your point, though. Across the spectrum of the preparedness community, it tends to be the people who dabble in the fantasy perspective that pay attention to having to face *[insert scenario here]* without a functioning firearm.
Regardless, things happen to weapons. No matter what you run, you need backups for if/when something happens to your main equipment. If you can't afford to fight without a particular something, then you can't afford to voluntarily commit to battle with that thing.
Bruh that super long crossfade fucked me up lol
8:33
TY for reassuring me
LOL 🤣
Was the overlapping video at about 8:35 there for everyone and or was it intentional. It was confusing and at first I thought Matt was trying something sophisticated oddly. I have been experiencing a few odd glitches on YT this morning
Am I the only one that ABSOLUTELY DIED at 8:35?😂😂😂😂😂
Not the only one!
My God!!! I thought I accidentally ate my girlfriend's gummies! Thank you for saying something. I was about to call my doctor
Maybe you could encourage Windlass to produce a 1788 model replica. They are beautiful swords, and unlike the older mortuary style hilts, a moulinet is easily accomplished with wear on your wrist's skin.
Why not have Wilkinson itself make it? I know that today they only make shaving razors, but it would be a nice idea.
@@arx3516 True. But, WIlkinson would charge a lot more. And, Matt would be able to set the specifications for Windlass. The most recent version of the Munich Town Guard sword is definitely improved. I have one, and the only flaw is the weight of the pommel and guard. So. I think Matt's influence would lead to a very nice blade.
As a lefty, it’s bittersweet seeing all these beautiful asymmetrical hilts. I like the aesthetically, but they will never be for me.
I know the feeling
Take oride in the fact that lefty swordsmen have a deadly advantage!
There must be some left handed antique swords out there, right?
@@shinjiikari1021 Only symmetrical ones. A sixteenth Century side sword without a knuckle bow would be my choice.
samesies 🤌
I will never not love how much historical info you put into your videos; even talking about just a few examples. Keep up the great work, pal!
Happy and safe Holidays to you and yours. 🍻🏴☠️
Cheers, mate!
Your knowledge and enthusiasm always shine through in these videos. Keep up the good work!
Fun fact, the first and yeah only sword I bought from you Matt was a Wilkinson 1845 blade with a 1895 guard. What a delight to handle- so nimble!- and what an amount of protection. Got a ton of swords since then, especially some French African Armies ones and many other non regular thingies, but that one is something. Cheers
The fact that it's almost symmetrical (alas, only almost) is already a massive bonus for me. As a left-handed, I always find it so frustrating that the majority of 18-19th century swords I see in antiques catalogues have guards shared in a way that would make them so impractical for me to hold.
Matt, I'm looking forward to watching this! This is actually something I've been wanting your recommendation on! Although, if I had to use one of my 2 current swords as an actual, practical fighting arm, it would likely be my Windlass 1796 saber.😁 Btw, I also meant to tell you on your last video about pennants on lances, that Medieval warriors also used fox tails! I believe this was the case in both Occident and Orient. A beautiful example in artwork is the famous Dürer engraving "Knight, Death, and the Devil."
Always loved the 1845 blade. It really has that goldilocks zone of qualities for me. Good thruster, decent cutter, stiff, maneuverability, and even has the possibility to do false edge cuts.
And the fact that it just plain looks good is the cherry on top. The slight curve and leaf shaped blade and fuller is near the top of aesthetics for me. Neither boring or over complex.
In America an affordable antique will normally be an 1860 cavalry saber, although there is an 1896 officers sword in Texas for $600 right now. It has a very nicely engraved Wilkinson blade.
Looking forward to your vid on full width tang, I was always a fan, but remember reading when I was still at school that they were not considered necessary in their day.
Great vid very intresting and informative thank you.
For an officer's sword, I think neither cut nor thrust is the most important thing. The most important thing, I think, is the sword's capacity to parry and defend against the likely weapons of the likely enemies. Officers aren't there to kill the enemy, they're there to command the troops who kill the enemy. So you give them a weapon set that serves the primary purpose of keeping them alive long enough for their men to come up and kill the threat. So the sword's capacity to injure the enemy (whether through cut or thrust) is the secondary concern.
Oh, and I agree, the 1845 1896 patterns seems to be a reslly good officer's sword. The strong ricasso makes it great at parrying. The point can threaten and (if necessary) kill. And if the officer "goes caveman" the sword will cut...
Good advice. Thank you.
What fun video. Thanks Matt.
I love that I actually found one of these at a flea market for $100 a few years ago and it quickly became my favorite
When I was serving in the NZ army we were issued these on loan either long term or for specific events or parades. Some of us bought our own, (second hand) because it meant that we could maintain them in good shape and not have to go mad cleaning scabbard etc when issued. I am long retired and still have it and have no intention of giving it up. A lovely bit of kit.
I was hoping you’d cover the 1845 pattern blade sometime soon. It’s been a favorite design of mine for some time now.
Happy you acknowledge the lefthanded among us
I can also reccomend the 1860 Italian Heavy Cavalry Sabre. Unusual6for the period, it has a threaded pummel which makes it a good project sword.
This video is all ‘well and good’ (as usual‼️👍🏻).
However; I’m wondering:
Will there be a Christmas Greetings video from the Eastons this year - full of good tidings, innuendo and double entendres…? 🤔🤞🏻
❤️🕯️🎄🤗
i got my first historical piece a week ago. found them by accident at an antiques market. a couple of very early 20th century fencing eppes. they were extremely neglected and very rusted, but in good condition (minus the rust). i just wanted one, but the guy would only sell the pair, so i got both for a good price. blades are mostly straight, it has signs of wear, especially in the cups which are dented and have several tiny puncture holes from thrusts and leather grip seems to be the original. after cleaning it up managed to get a good look at the makers brand which was G. Pion from France. On the blade seems to have the date 1913 or 1918 (very hard to tell). Small detail i noticed is that both have the name Georges scratched on in the inside of the cups, so im assuming that was the original owner of these. still in the process of cleaning them, one of them is looking much nicer. good for solo practice
Have you ever considered making a video on sword restoration? I picked up an 1899 pattern gymnasium sabre earlier this year which was a real treat and I've been meaning to restore it and maybe sell it on or have it as a display piece
I’d love to see you review a Marine Corps ceremonial NCO sword. They’re obviously not actually a serious fighting sword, as much as some may try to defend them, but it would just be cool to see you give comments on its design and feel compared to your other more purpose driven sabers.
Hi Matt, indeed the 1896 I tried last time we met was a fine piece...but the French 1882 I like it so much better. As to the basket of the 1788 being more protective, I can thrust between the bars, unless the sword is constantly spinning, but the hilt of the 1896 would not let a smallsword pass through.
I know I love my 1845 artillery officer's sword you sold me earlier this year.
A good solid 3 bar hilt and 1845 blade is hard to beat for practicality. Probably why they remained almost unchanged for so long.
@@scholagladiatoria my favorite kind of saber, personally, aesthetically and functionally. Certainly the only thing I regret is that I didn't ask you to sharpen it. It was more difficult to hand sharpen at the cutting portion than my longsword due to the flex, but it's getting plenty of water bottle use now that I figured it out. Happy holidays!
Excelent! Thank you! Obrigado!
I’m a left hander watching this video, thanks Matt I feel so seen.
8:30 He is Matt Easton and he will continue to be, unless an alternate Matt Easton replaces him first.
the strengh of wrist on schola when showing swords would fill soldiers of old with dread
I have a very similar non standard sword. A 1845 blade by John Hamburger (rifles volunteers) in almost parade condition mated to a 1895 hilt. The scabbard is also a bit odd, it’s leather but not wood lined so it is flexible. It’s very obviously different sitting next to a 1895 pattern as its about 4-5cm longer
I'd like to boast about my recent acquisition, a 1896 _Swiss_ cavalry trooper sabre which I found in excellent condition with the scabbard for £120!
Swiss swords feel undervalued, I've seen other listings for excellent swords at great prices so this wasn't a fluke, and they seem excellent quality.
The 1896 is quite plain, any British officer sword would beat it in beauty contest by leagues, but still a very functional fighting sword, with a 1945-pattern-ish blade, good hand protection, solidly made, and I am absolutely in love with the large, dished, and aggressively checkered thumb placer. Good alternative answer to this question I think!
Yes, both Swiss and Austrian swords are really nice.
Some people are youtube content makers.
Matt is a CZcams context maker.
Great video. What are your thoughts on the Model 1913 Cavalry Sword, commonly referred to as the Patton Saber?
This seems very close to the current Household Cavalry officer pattern to me.
I also think I've seen a line infantry field officer carrying a very similar blade (albeit with a regulation EIIR hand-guard) on parade in the last twenty years. He was a very big chap (think Nicholas "Chieftain" Moran sized) and it was obvious that the sword he was carrying was better proportioned for him than a regular 1897.
Definitely nice to find some good, affordable antique swords. I usually only see lodge or fraternal swords going for such low prices, along with the odd battlefield-use piece or rando selling something they don’t know what it is. Affordable swords are always worth highlighting. :3
oooh. I have an inhereted french Chassepot sword bayonet. still pretty common
I used. A pistol grip fencing sword back in college. It was more pinpoint on attacks.
The two least expensive swords I've bought are an 1889 Prussian infantry officers sword and a Spanish 1907 cavalry sword.
There both more expensive now, but still on the low end in price. If you're looking for a first sword either would be a good start.
Part of wanting to own a functional sword is some people know that if shit hits the fan, and firearms aren't available or ammo is very scarce then something like a sword (yes axes are common and functional) will be a great weapon for defense and offense
There are only 5 sabre's I like - 1788 Heavy Cavalry Troopers, 1821 Heavy Cavalry Officer & Light Calvary Troopers 3 Bar Hilt, US Marine Corps Mameluke & NCO Swords. All are good ⚔️
If the regulation 1845 blade was still selected as a regulation blade for an updated 1896 sword that is half a century of use! And that the blade saw service with officers, infantry and the navy is a testament to its versatility.
The handle and guard is slightly different, but I am pretty sure I have that sword. Bought it randomly (and reasonably cheap) from a Danish antique weapons dealer. Nice to know what pattern it is. :)
7 minutes in and i hear the Monty Python guys in my head screaming "GET ON WITH IT!"
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Matt, hello,from Tennessee USA. Only sword I have is my US Army ceremonial safe from the 70's. Never learned to fight with it. Can you suggest a reproduction small sword that a 74 year old man in good shape can use for self defense? Thanks. Happy New Year!
I picked up a Spanish Artillery sword of the late 19th C., which is quite similar in form. The very crisp “I-beam” fuller goes almost to the tip, but it is still spear pointed. The guard is very similar in shape but solid and plain, with just some etched crossed pennants and swords on it. Very symetrical, maybe a hint more coverage. Grip has no back strap, more of a scale construction with black composition, maybe gutta-percha scales. Marked Artilleria Hignal although there is a roll pin through the Riccasso partially obscuring the “Hignal”. I had never seen one before, but as it was going for only 200.00, and it looked quite practical, I picked it up. I do find it a little blade heavy, but not remarkably so. I wonder if you recognize it, and what you might think about how this one stacks up to your favorite? Perhaps they are fairly common and might be a good alternative?
To add to that, I looked in your back catalogue and you had one, # EL 6622. 1907 pattern Spanish cavalry.
Fantastic points made. Now then! Where to source one of these... hmm. Also, how could I get the handle recovered fresh and correctly without damaging anything?
Love to see him pushing later century swords, the more he moves people towards the late 19th century, it takes the pressure off off the 18th century and early 19th century swords which are way more interesting
I do have a British pattern 1845 Officer sword, and mark my words, it’s heavy AF. Can barely hold it in one hand for more than 5 minutes 😂
Hey Matt, long time fan of yours. I would like to see if you can find a personal account of hand to hand combat at the battle of Monterrey 1846. Or perhaps at the famous battle of puebla 5 de mayo.
Have you handled any Dutch 1876 light cavalry swords, and if so are they comparable? The blades look quite similar but distal taper and balance are hard to judge.
Loved this video! So, I know you’re addressing antiques, but does anyone make a reproduction that is the equal of the originals? The “Discriminating General” offers an “1897 pattern” ; is that basically the same pattern, & is that vendor offering a “real fighting” sword, or is it a “wall-hanger” for display/ceremony?
Matt, any recommendations for where one might look for one of these 1896 sabers in the US? I'd order from you but I hate to think what shipping from the UK would be like.
What's your opinion on the 1899 pattern cavalry sabre?
As an American who can easily purchase any firearm that I choose, I would also like fighting sword unlike handguns swords never run out of bullets or have jams.
8:45 spirit of future Matt
For me being lefthanded is the main challenge, it needs to be lefthanded or ambidextrous.
If even for just a collection piece, I want to be able to know I could use it properly.
Love the video! I feel as though you've extolled the virtues of this sword before...
As it happens I'm lucky enough to own a Wilkinson patent solid hilt example of this sword from ~1910 made for an officer in the 16th Lancers, but I'm curious about a difference I see between mine and the one you have here. The example I have, and a few others I've seen, has an exposed/protruding nut on the pommel, whereas the example you have here does not. What is the significance/utility of the pommel nut? Do you know why some examples have them and some don't?
Most examples of this pattern have a flushed nut and checkered pommel, but sometimes different makers did things differently for no particular reason. It's strange for Wilkinson to have a standing proud nut on this pattern though.
@@scholagladiatoriaI believe that one of the best aspects of having swords as an interest or hobby is the ability to say ‘standing proud nut’ & not be considered a complete barbarian..
My brother had a pair of cavalry swords (many years ago now) given to him by an old lady for looking after her house and dogs, they were her deceased husbands who had fought in the Boer war, they were his dress sword and his ummm business sword, both with their scabbards and in their leather boots, unfortunately some shitbags burgled his house and swiped them, along with a pair of Katana that he had
My entire antique swords collection is Matt's fault: a 19th century Nepalese army kukri and a 1796. I did sharpen the kukri somewhat in the process of cleaning it up, but given its weight and the size of the hilt compared to my large 20th century European hands, I rather doubt if I could actually use it effectively. The sabre feels like it probably was sharp once upon a time; I haven't dared to take a stone to it, but I definitely would do so pronto if faced with an apocalypse
1788 cavalry sword looks great
Looking forward to see a video non regulation officers swords from the Indian Mutiny
Soon, my friend. Soon 😂
@@scholagladiatoria You're a legend 🙏
Was that blend edit in the middle intended to be there? It seemed like an accidental edit. I was listening while working in the shop and thought i accidentally opened two youtube windows at the same time.
"Not trying to sell you the 1896 Light Cavalry Sword because I've only got *a couple* at the moment" - Don't ever change, Matt. :oP
How does this grip and guard compare to the more classic rapier grip (with the over the quilon finger) for point work?
I love info about swords I happen to have an ancestor hin name is Brando spatha or spada apparently he was a swords man in sicily I'm still trying to find out more about him do you know any thing about him ? Lol thanks very much
Could you make a video comparing sideswords and sabers? I’m interested in the design elements that seem to make most 19th century sabers lighter than most sideswords.
Sure, good idea. Though I'll have to look up some stats of a range of originals, because I'm not actually sure there is necessarily a difference in the weight ranges.
@@scholagladiatoria It's something I've noticed a lot with training weapons. The really light and simple sideswords tend to always be between 900 and 1000 grams and more complex hilts bring them up to 1250-1300.
Could you please do a video on good fighting katanas that can be had for a good price?
Thank you.
Question: It there anywhere a booklet outthere like an ordonnance Manual which describes how to fight with this sword?
That's precisely the sword that I am after. 1845 blade on a 1897 style hilt. I have the 1897 thrust only but this 1896 has cut/slash with no less thrust. Also surely with a thumb forward grip, is there not the possibility of breaking your thumb thrusting into a target as the sword naturaley is sent backwards?
I Matt A question on left handed Calvary men were they ever put together in one fighting unit? They could go against the weakside of the enemy.
Love non regulation swords, fascinating topic. That said, I still think the Osborn Gunby 1796 Light Cavalry sword might be the ultimate compromise fighting sword.
Would like to see a video on brass vs steel hilts . Was the lighter material adequate or just a compromise?
Brass is actually heavier than steel. And since it’s not as strong, is usually thicker than equivalent steel. So “lighter” isn’t the best way to describe it.
Would you be able to recommend a good place to purchase a 19-20th calvery sword, American and British.
I've used a couple of mortuary swords and find the basket to be too small for very protective gloves... seems like they are made to be used with a thin riding glove etc.
Like my 1853 Cavalry Troopers Sabre, but would like a "prettier" one.
Where are the leather sword knots ? Could you do a video on British sword knots? I had one that looks like a pine cone.
I'm beginning to suspect he is into 1896 British cavalry sabres.
We have a late 1800s French infantry sword for sale
The apocalypse
A fighting sword (dedicated)
A Survival blade (Parang Machete) with some possible fighting ability
My USMC NCO sword looks similar to the sword you shown and it was realitively inexpensive. I did not get the more expensive Wilkensin sword since they did not impress me and honestly were of low quality when I used them in NCO schools. I remember during parade manuevers I went to draw my Wilkinson sword and only got the handle and hilt. So after that miserable performance from that sword I was gifted a Cold Steel NCO sword and it was way better quality. It also had a functional cutting edge and looked to be fully functional on the battle field too but sadly i never got that oppurtunity since swords are not allowed on the battlefield anymore.
Is that long transition around 8:36 intentional?
It actually did really feel like you were talking over yourself at one point
I cant believe I spent 6 hours today watching sword fighting videos and more hours looking for swords on the local ebay equivalent. Until I started watching your videos recently i never gave swords, knives, or shields a second thought... I mean its fun to watch tony curtis and other skilled actors do their sword thing in the movies, but these people i saw today who fight in competitions shame hollywood.
The bad news, however, comes in several flavors: First off I cant see myself being able to talk my good wife into owning a saber... we just couldnt afford one on the local economy... and two, other than a few home grown sword-like implements, and some poor samurai copies in wood and cheap metal, there are no swords in the Philippines where i reside as an expat..
If you run into any wealthy sword lovers who might like to send an old man a belated christmas gift in the form of an 1896 Wilkerson saber.... Ill be waiting patiently... :)
Thanks for getting me excited about something new. 🏹🏹🏹 - sorry, i couldnt find any swordsmen emoji.
So where would I buy one from?
What about the Briquet sabres/swords?
What would the price be on the 1788 HC Sword ?
How do the swiss swords compare?