Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial | 30 October 2023
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- Lt Colonel Solomon Raphadu will continue to be on the stand during the Senzo Meyiwa trial within a trial. He is another police officer who has told the High Court in Pretoria that accused number 2, Bongani Ntanzi, freely and voluntarily deposed of a confession on 19 June 2020. This is separate from the confession Ntazi allegedly made to the Magistrate Vivian Cronje.
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Why was the accused transported with private cars instead of a state car. This witness agreed that a fortuner was used, which means the accused is telling the truth.
U can hear that the witness is rehearsing."i met the suspect at moroka" he makes sure he repeats that even when he is not asked
The defense should kanvas the tracking records of these cars, to see which areas these cars travelled on the day of the assault and also ask for camera records of Baragwanath hospital if any.
I agree with you
Exactly my thought. I think they do
Mayb they are busy behind close doors. On their submission they might surprised you.
Lol about cctv, in most cases they get deleted within a month and most of them don't have backup
Camera records only kept for 90 days
This is sad, for someone especially a man to feel like crying because of torture he suffered in the hands of the policeman, this is unbearable
Uyibambe ngakho Baba uMngomezulu.abenze lutho labantwana babantu.ibuhlungu lento .kubuhlungu webafethu ukuboshelwa into ongayazi 😢
Ku buhlungu ngempela🤞
Yey 😢
Bathong, this witness is a Metro Police and not an SAPS member? I thought metro is only responsible for transgressions relating to violation of by laws
metro police have crime prevention and elite units, they dnt only deal wth traffic violations,
arrest/ing statement/report book/occurence book/logbook DOLOLO
Defense should not back down mapodisi a are playing hide&seek a life is robbed here ga re mo matshamekong ijaaaakg 💪🏿
#justice4senzo
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Imbude nje
@@buyixaba6024 what do you mean please?COMMUNICATION BARRIER 🙆🏿♀️😘🫤
Ntanzi must be sooo disgusted by this lying devil. They humiliated him, beat him and treated him like trash.
Baloyi is smart.The line of witnesses he wants Gininda to come and cover all the holes.He will come knowing what to say.
I share the same sentiments with you Ķlenjie.
When is the court Resuming
Tomorrow
Why did they feel that, when miss Cronje asked for appointment, they felt intermediated
Mshololo's questions are very relevant
Interpreter today is pure Zulu but he is somewhere not saying the correct things
He also cuts the sentences
😢bophani oKelly Khumalo
This is chilling and hard to listen and hard to believe
The judge has an attitude when Mshololo stands up to cross examine the witnesses. He sighs loudly. That is unbecoming behaviour.
This judge has reached his sell by date!
I wonder what the JP is saying with the behavior of the judge.. someone must stand up for the defense, it's too much now, or else we won't see justice
I don't understand why Kelly,her mother and gininda have not been called as witnesses till now
How is calling them assisting the state's case? For now the aim is to prove the accussed were involved and onced that is proven, the state will gun for whoever sent them. Mandisa or Kelly or Longwe
@@tshepolegodi1635 I agree 💯. Seemingly some people don't understand these court proceedings. There is no way the state can call a witneses who wont assist in their cause. Kelly or Mandisa should know something.
Kuthiwa uGininda uzobizwa, Baloyi confirmed it last week.
@@buyixaba6024 At which platform did Baloyi confirmed? Lets stop hearsay and deal on facts.
@@user-eo8ir7pt3phaibo pls go to recording of the case yaWednesda.he said" my Lord Brg Ginida will be called to testify".... it not hearsay
Look at Ntanzi😢, uyamangala ukuthi ukhona umuntu ongaqamba amanga through his teeth, under the oath, aghhhha shame, that look says it all...angazi noma he was involved ekubulaweni kukaMenziwa bit that look ithi hawu nangihlukumeza kakhulu😢
True I also saw it
Detail of his audio confession will give us more clarity on the details of how the murder was carried out
Translator, really needs a job to translate in church.. 😮
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When ppl complain that Mnisi and Nxumalo dont cross examine these witnesses and are not helping the defense team,they should think about the big fishes that are still to come and testify,they are just taking the back seat so as not to compromise the defense when it matters most with abo Gininda and others,not to say Mngomezulu and Mshololo wont play a major part,remember acc no 1 is related ho acc no5 hence Mshololo is so involved in this trial with in a trial
Brigadier Gininda's name is all over witnesses mouths
UyiPro phela yokushaya abantu bavunyiswe into abangayazi phela awuboni
Yes where else could he be except in places of corruption and except executing the duties of the devil
@@wandeywandey1144Well said
He is the head of the snake! The devil's first born
Uyaphithizela yena shame😂
I like this translator he knows how to speak Zulu
Jesus my Lord this people are heartless 😭😭😭😭
Yooo wena this is another level of wickedness...😢😢😢😢😢
Usually such behaviour is typical of people who grew up tortured in their families so they become heartless and evil
My sources in Bara tell me the police came there trying to get the footage of the mentioned day and were told to bring relevant paperwork for them to be given.
That can help a lot
Improbable that they still have the footage unless something was fishy that day
Why they want the footage?? Yooo hai ke lamaphoyisa sebazoshaya bani ke eBara now
@@thembazincume6652 nope the police want to destroy it
@@ngcobothulasizweian the security company has the footage in discs
😢😢hmmm Bongani nginesiqiniseko sokuthi usenenhluziyo embi ngendlela eyisimanga. Ngaze ngabuhlungu
I m loosing faith in every1 here, the case is dragging and it is just vague, The Khumalos know what happened, why are they not here? The pple who were in the house have answers.
This fabricated version is just not helping and is not in favor of the Meyiwas, it's a waste of time and state resources
Mtanzi was very injured,that's why the take some days to take him to court in order for him to recovering,even senzo friends were tortured by police
That noise is disturbing.
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This is terrible is this how accused are being treated before they could even be found guilty 😢😢
What a coincidence for him to have been escorting both the accused
Nxaa basenza izingane laba
Ave besenza izidomu laba
He said it goes with "trust" 😅😅😅🤘
@@buyixaba6024hhay basbona singonodoli labantu ANC yenu buyi nisazophinda niyvotele kulobuhlungu obungaka esizwisa bona ngoba asnamali phela sxakekile kudlalwa ngathi
@@user-bq5ix2qq3pkubuhlungu ukungabi nemali...kumele ushaywe uvume into oqgaqgene nayo..lecala inzukayikeyi stru
Khabazela! This interpreter.. 😂😂
Translater is not make sure😢
When an advocate does not press for wrong unswers it's because he knows already you're laying they are going to dig more information lets 🫸 wait and see 🙈😮
If the cops went to fetch Mthokozisi Thwala who was Senzo's friend and assaulted him then it means these same guys were also assaulted,the saps is rotten to the core instead of doing proper investigations they resort to assaulting people to confess to things they don't know
Angithi is a very easy route for them and to force pple to admit izinto abangazenzanga lamavila lawa ahola mahhala... nxaa
But why didnt Senzos friends admit to killing Senzo and these ones did over and over
unfortunately sometimes thats how they get confessions, and it always works. if you watched Xolani of sizokthola and hoey got confessions, thats the tactic, its ugly but necessary.
Incompetence and laziness makes them take short cuts.
Mthokozisi was never assaulted ask me why I'll tell u.
At this point I don't think Ntanzi uqamba amanga uwazi njani wonke lamaphoyisa ne ndawo abamhambise kuzo
Gininda plays a bigger role in this case and he used other police officers to score himself a position
Ayi this amaze me where was SAPS while EMPD arrest the accused coz it's seems like EMPD played a big role in arresting
Kushushu🔥Jonathan truth will set you free 🤞
Umuntu owabulala uSenzo ukulaba ababesendlini .finito kwadlala imali la .kwakhokhelwa izikhulu thizeni lamaphoyisa awananembeza .ayanyanyisa
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Mshololo please, we can't be wasting time making law the whole day because of one person let's make it shortcut🤥🤥
When is the defence going to call longer Thwala and Kelly to the Stand? Can't wait
Voice ka interpreter i thought was ku case e different
Wht is that voice at the back ground it's disturbing
😮😮😮😮😮 So they went to plant evidence in his place! Wow wow!! These guys are dirty. Yoh
Gininda is a celebrity at this point
Advocate Mshololo is a very clever person.how can she ask a cop why they were heavily arned.its fo 2 reasons they can be intercepted btwn point A to B.the main reason is they have to make sure that both IO and the accused are safe .
where's the live chat?
Now they have to go to baragwana hospital and get the cctv
I’m sure it no longer exists.
They dealt with it a long time ago
They should just check vehicles tracker records, including google records on cellphones of the police who are implicated.
Cctv can't kept for over a year
Trust was built over several occasions - my feet 😂😂😂
But the frustrating part of all is Jonathan keeps on saying i have no knowledge my lord... aitog 😮
He is telling lies this Johnathan
Ziyakhala
I like cooperation between the defense team
Judge yadi tshila "okay" "okay"
Too much twist here
Baze bahlukunyezwa abantwana babantu. Ngisho noma babonile babengayi deserve le ntshutshiso. Kwakufanele umthetho uthathe indawo yawo.
😢😢😢we waiting
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The unfamiliar slender voice of the interpreter/translator is inappropriate for the court...😅😅😅😅
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I wonder i judge idinwe yin today nkosyam....ayke utolika wethu kunzima kuye inkinga le...😅
Akabuze uryt naye Wali bamba iqhaza, akabuze kwasani anganguli phezulu kuningi e akwenzayo lezigebengu.
Nxaaa sisenkingeni la eMzansi
This officer is lying too much I think ntanzi is telling the truth
Ntanzi mentioned 3 cars GTI that was driven by Jonathan with another coloured colleague, Fortuner and double cab. Jonathan confirmed positively all that info about those cars
@@lindiwekhumalo5770for Jonathan to confirm that those were the cats it means he is telling the truth. By the way the defense was narrating the story indeed it happened that way.
To cut matter shot, do you think about Ntazi can kill Senzo alone if it was a hit and leave everyone in the house? Why Mma Phiri ckeane the crime scene at the first place and DNA exclude them from the crime scene. People who can tell is the truth are the ones who were inside the so CALLED SPAZA house
@@lindiwekhumalo5770and Ntanzi is very consistent.
Bafethu leli Judge licikwa yini? Is he not suppose to be neutral and unbias?
His bais what I noticed
For starters he is abreast of evidence, that's why he's got such an appetite to stand in the gap every time the state slided 😢😢😢 .... We ask for justice for Senzo Meyiwa 🙏.
Ligqishiwe nalo imali ema....
Baloyi tjinks everyone is stupid here. He continued to down look at the profession of the defense. Deliberately he chooses not to supply them with the necessary documents on time. Foolish behaviour of a prosecutor
Besekhohliwe uPhoyisa ukuthi bavumelene ngokuthini, uqale wavuma zonke izono, angazi uwushiye ungqimphothi...angabe balala kanjani abantu bazi ukuthi ucindezela umuntu ,uqeda ikusasa lomunye. Ngiyamsaba umuntu
Hai my Dad used to say "saba umuntu ubonakala ngokuba nobulongo ongeke usinde ngabo"... izinhliziyo ziyabanda mpo... yeses
@@buyixaba6024my mom😅😅😅😅used to say that.
@@klentjiewe ou haibo...isihluku esinje
AI banesono ngeke
Am sure this police officer is telling lies serious. I don't know my Lord😮
The blue lies serious... I hate what he's doing
That person that is talking behind is disturbing.
What's wrong with the interpreter😂😅sounds weary
Judge sourgrapes
I wonder kzokwenzakalani you all these corrupt police officers…😢
Admission
lotolika uvelaphi?
Angazi and akatoliki zona😂😂😂😂
Jonathan yonke into akayazi unamanga i thought lento yaphela before 1994 kanti those corrupt officials basayenza lento ngendaba ye mali yooo kunzima eMzantsi
Who is the new translator we don't like the voice
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2:40:30 2:40:31
The way they where armed which mshololo deem it heavy seems like those guys in court who bring the accused daily to court .I don’t know if Mshololo want them to also change their clothes 🤦♂️or attire ..the fact is that one is dealing with too ciminals who his friends can come to fetch them or crape them at any moment .
Mshololo is wasting court time with non bearing questions. right now behind her there is heavily armed police, even correctional services are armed, outside there is metro police to escort them. shes just a loudmouth
She can get carried away with nonsense sometimes
@@mimidiwu330 jah definitely and that’s why the judge always call them back to order and focus so the case can move .yet he is being criticised for that 🤷🏾♂️anyways for them the long it goes the more money so jah
@@SonOfTheSoil834 u have nailed it,, exactly so if the judge would be mum they can mess up coz wow
When you are going to give a free statement is questionable........ I don't think the will be any need to be heavily armed if indeed one is going to give a statement free...... he doesn't have a pressure to run away. Those coming to court are escorting generally
Hayi baloyi yabavikela bakwa khumalo nabakwa thwala shame...ama witness angenasdingo nje awalethayo hoooo ay
Mshololo cc ningasabayeki labofazi besenza izingane
Mngo was pushing and desperate for yet another break.
Ngiyamvuma lo Gininda wabo
He's the main man, I can just imagine him in a movie...🙆🏽♂️🙆🏽♂️🙆🏽♂️
@@alphmash4565he's connected everywhere that barstard 😢
UJehova uzophendula
Why does this witness always say he has no knowledge
Because he is lying
This story is so detailed, unlikely to be true. He was tortured
Most state vehicles are fitted with AVL just get the records of the day.
Unless they edit them to remove pertinent incriminating information. This is South Africa. Can't trust anything
Jonathan 😮
Masepa a motho😡😡
Hheyi laMaphoyisa akalunganga ayingozi kabi ungaphika vele icala umphikwa kuyaziwa Shame nami angeke ngivume
Kuse kutheni lapho Mshololo engathi uthetha no mntana wakhe 😢🙄
Ok this member is lying to the court now
They must just do away with these robes! Aggg.
Now this interpreter no energy
This guy really doesn't have any knowledge 😅😅😅
Umadida wendaba unless the accusecfd
why did he not lay charges on his first court appearance
Would have laid the charges?
To whom, to the same policeman that assaulted him?
He tried to talk remember on their first appearance at Boskburg he was busy raising his hand and saying something then the judge said we not here for that we just want to know if you would like a state Lawer or you have your own.😢😢
@@confidencengobeni5014 true.i still have that video and the same lawyer who accompanied him to the so called confession did nothing!!
To the same people who assaulted you.
Lizophuma iqiniso lana 😂
This interpreter sounds unsure 😢
Guys what's going on
Hand over boss
Kwenzenjani jaji ulwiswa yini
Uyadina loyo nalama mood swings akhe ngathi uku3rd trimester of pregnancy.
@@buyixaba6024You can say that again dear
Jooooooooo translater/interpreter 😮😢
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Aibandla utolika uthathwephi ke lo wanamhlanje bazalwane
I believe the accused being assaulted
It's only hearsay with zero substance. These are contract killers and they can say whatever.
I agree with you 🤞
These police officials are being exposed.
@@Ryanblack23 Can you please unpack this statement?
Police brutality is being exposed