Pantorouter linear glides
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2018
- Adapting drawer slides to make the linear glides for the plunge mechanism on the pantorouter.
woodgears.ca/pantorouter/linea...
I have covered this topic twice before:
In 2014 for the pantorouter xl:
• Pantorouter XL build: ...
In 2010 for the original pantorouter:
• Making linear glides f...
You can buy the plans for this (updated) pantorouter here:
woodgears.ca/pantorouter/plans
If you bought the pantorouter plans in the past, you can use the download link that was emailed to you at the time of purchase to download the latest version. - Jak na to + styl
I've been watching this channel for years since I was a student in high school, I am now a high school teacher. I've never done any woodworking in my life. Yet your videos are too interesting to me. I just like to tinker with stuff.
Cheers From Morocco. Stay awesome!
You know things are getting real when Matthias uses fancy new plywood 😁
Love the video! Really liked the bit where you don't have the tool so just made one, "real quick"! Fantastic. Love that philosophy
I also repurpose everything, even when buying actual linear rails would be cheaper when you factor in the time to make drawer slides work.
It's much more satisfying.
Well done Good Sir.
Hey Matthias! I really enjoy these longer videos that show your process in detail. Looking forward to the next one!
Yahoo! A new build video. It's been such a long time since a machine was created. Love to see the discoveries you made while assembling this prototype.
I like to see the stuff you build around the house but you are at your best building machines. Can’t wait for the next episode.
Great vid. Yrs ago I used drawer slides to make a linear slide to work on stepper motors. Nice work. You went more hardcore than I did LOL
I never get tired of calling you a genius!
Though I have yet to build anything I've seen on this channel (even though I've bought several plans), I do enjoy watching the problem solving and the building. Hopefully soon my shop will be functional and I can start making some cool tools!
Always inspiring watching your videos.
Forget the complainers, there are a lot more who appreciate and enjoy your videos.
Can't wait to see the next part :)
As a lifelong hotrodder and tinkerer, for those of you too lazy to modify something, feel free to blow your cash on anything you see fit. I think this is a tremendous use of resources mixed with creativity.
@Raleigh Sexton It depends on what value you place on your time. I personally would never do this because it's not worth my time to mess around for an hour or two like this. I would just go buy a set of slides for $20-$30.
Having said that it doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching his creative process.
You missed the point. it's for fun, not the money.
@Raleigh Sexton Hmmm...you end your very first sentence with..."feel free to blow your cash on anything you see fit". This implies that for you it is about the money.
It's actually about doing things for myself.
@Raleigh Sexton Fine, but the words you typed say otherwise when taken at face value.
Great video! its so funny, before you announced you were making another pantorouter. you tube suggested I watch your old drawer slides video just the other day. I think you may have used the same yogurt cup to catch the ball bearings. But I just might build one now. Thanks for the vids!!!
Nice work, I'm curious to see what you do with the articulation to stabilize it. Nice to see you back in form and thanks.
Even though i will never build it, i do enjoy watching it. Thanks Matthias!
Linear guides and bearings cheaper in Australia. Bought on AliExpress for the slot mortiser I’m building and tenon jig I built. I like the challenge of modifying your plans to suit.
Nice detail. Like the way you work it all out. Thanks for the video.
With how ubiquitous and cheap proper precission linear rails and bearings have become (thanks to the recent explosion on the chinese and DIY 3D printer market), I dont think all this is worth the effort (from a time spent standpoint). But I appreciate that you do these things because you like the challenge, and it's way more fun to do all this than just order some parts from EBAY, haha.
wow Matthias... you're on a whole 'nother level.
I was about to buy the pantorouter plans. Guess I'll just wait until you are done with the new version
buy now and build along... :-)
3 pantorouters in the shop. You could link them all together to make a parellel slot cutting device to build another pantorouter.
kooky flukes Soon there will be four of them.
link them all together to build 3 new ones at the same time!
Well, with 4 pantorouters, he can surely build 4 pantorouters. Why think small? :D
Okay
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Hello from Runcorn UK. YES!!! , you ARE a genius!!!!!
I'll be so amused if he uses a pantorouter anywhere in the build of this pantorouter.
Overused, but: pantorouterception.
That's Norm Abrams that uses the workbench to build the workbench, and has a router for every bit.
I, for one, welcome our new pantorouter overlord.
All Hail Overlord Pantorouter
Matthias' comments section is so unfunny
Fantastic channel! Love your videos. I've learned so much.
ingenious. matthias thanks for sharing this build. well done.
I've never noticed this before in your videos, but something about the audio in this one is very compress-y. I was hearing ocean-waves the whole time, even when it was playing HD.
I have a bunch of server rack slides kicking around. I haven't used them for anything yet but they're made to hold quite a bit of weight so they'd probably work well for an application like this.
I used server rails for my Pantorouter XL build. They are extremely heavy duty with no play, but took a lot of effort to make them work. The trick is to find a set that will work well for this application as their designs vary greatly.
Great video with good explanation of the your plan.
Hello from Victoria Australia, you are a genius.
Ross Trimboli in Victoria Australia?
another fellow Victorian reporting in, hellow fellows.
Goddam it were everywhere within the first 12 minutes. Tis Friday night I suppose.
Ross Trimboli do you watch him much? I have watched every video he has made. Even the Cornie ones.
Here's another one.
Just like i built the X and Y table for my CNC. Nice and easy!
These vids are so much fun!
Matthias, You could move the dust shield from the top to the base on the side you said had a gap for dust to get in when the slide was all the way in that direction. That way no matter where the slide was the shield would help.
Thank you for sharing your amazing video
Can Matthias build a CNC for his next big project?
with his delicate woodworking craftsmanship, that build would be a century project!
so expecting this to happen by his hands
Random suggestion is random:
Since in a previous video, you outlined the problems you have with the orginal wood pantarouter you built, and as you are building a replacement, why not set up a raffle, after you completed the modified one, so you can hand-off the orginal one, plus a copy of the modified plans, to a lucky subscriber. That way a) you get to have more workshop space, especially if it is occupied by a machine you may no longer use as much, and b) gives a chance for one of us subscribers to get a 'Matthias Original (TM)' they can alter with the new plans ... a win/win, if I do say so myself ...
yessss. more pantorouter vids
If you had a hole at the front of the base-top with a cover, you could attach suction to it occasionally to draw out any dust that has accumulated between the two pieces.
This was a big help. Thanks.
A Vixbit will help centre those pilot holes for the screws. It may seem like an extravagance, but they really work.
$40!?! This seems like a better solution. If I ever need to drill holes exactly in the center of something I could probably make these using only a file...
Though maybe only if I find a properly sized metal pipe - any ideas?
Another great video.
Legend has it he uses wood glue as slide grease on his pantorouter collection.
Matthias! I'm surprised you didn't make slides out of wood!! You might consider getting a dry film lubricant rather than using grease or oil. Won't attract sawdust nearly as much. I think they are usually teflon or graphite based. Search Amazon for "dry film lubricant". Seems like a perfect place to use one. Cheers.
expained right at the start of the video
Just kidding about the wood. But the dry film lubricant on your ball bearing glides might be a good idea.
I immediately thought about dry lubricants too, but I imagine grease would lubricate it much better.
And since this isn't the first revision, I expect the wooden dust shields do the trick and it's a non-problem.
"still got play"
I'd buy the t-shirt
At 8.27 Matthias Palpetine shows himself
Lol "Good.... Goooodddd..."
Off camera: "Oh, I'm afraid the ball-bearing shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive..."
8:27 for people who don't want to manually go to that point in the video
Hey Matthias!
You could make a "floor" under the pantorouter table, that would seal the gap and prevent dust from getting in.
At least a bit.
You're the man dude
For dust issues between the base and moving part I'd go with an over pressure. But it adds a small blower w/ filter to the BOM though.
Too complicated make it simpler. Lol. Awesome work man. Keep it it up the awesome work
thank you for this ideas
thank you very much
Hmm, looks like you prefinished your baltic birch this time... That's a good idea.
Self centering awl was genius!
Classic Matthias again!
Are you planning to take over the world with those panto routers ? I'd like to be part of that ....were to i sign ? :D
8:27 is my favorite ☺
"Goooood"
We’ve all been there ......
wayne mccullock I
Finally - a CZcams-channel for dads.
Will the slides build be factored into the final plan?
For the dust guard on the rear, perhaps a couple of lengths of rubber door sweep on the underside of the sled...
Mat..your next Project should be Construction of an Elevator for Lifting Materials to a Loft or Roof made with Common Lumber and Wire Rope :)
He makes good content. That is all
Brilliant
Would there be any issues using brush weatherstripping to keep out the dust? Such as McMaster-Carr part# 1130A59 ?
I do feel like we might have gotten to the point where it makes more sense to just buy a decent set of linear guides. Prices have continued to drop since you made your last pantorouter. It's definitely a more attractive option for those that place a high value on their time.
you still have to figure out which one to get, then wait 3 weeks for it to arrive, vs just heading down to your local big box store and buying some drawer glides.
Hopefully I'm not the only one with the video on in the background and listening to the audio during Friday morning rush hour
dropn loads Hopefully you are the only one!
sting8888 what's the difference of listening to this vs the talk radio
I Hope you kept your eyes on the street and didn't hit any pedestrians. Remeber it could always be Matthias in disguise looking for scrap lumber and parts
> What's the difference of listening to this vs the talk radio
Well when you said you had the video on that kind of carries with it the implication that your were watching the video. If you were just listening I say go ahead. As long as you didn't search for it while driving.
pasta I agree I should reword my original post
bless you sir
I love your rat maze videos
Hi Matthias,
are the Plans available on your HP allready the revised ones? Thanks in advance and greetings from Bremen,
Dennis
As usual, your precision in working is fantastic .. now I'm not surprised anymore :-))
Take my curiosity: have I correctly seen, that the screws you've used have a square slot? it's the first time I see them.
I had seen the square bit in some universal screwdriver kits, but I did not know it was for the screws, I thought they were for some use in the mechanical world (like the key for the lathe spindles)
Unfortunately, as soon as the videos are released they do not have subtitles (I'm Italian and I do not know English as well as I would like) but I want to say that I will cover your video in a few days so I can understand exactly your explanations
'll see you on the next episode (from "Persons of Interst" TV series)
It's a canadian screw head, Kregg pocket hole screws uses them
Adamast, Thank you very much: every day you learn a new one
that type is named Robertson.
use graphite or some sort of dry lube to mitigate the dust attraction problems.
Adam Menz I'm just speculating, but graphite powder around wood might lead to staining problems. As a lefty my hand was often silver after writing with a pencil.
Hey, I've been wondering: where/how did you learn how to make all the kinds of projects that you've made in all your videos?
Amazing 🔥👏
I see Lee Valley sells these double tier drawer slides in two sizes. 18" and 20" Can you tell me which are the correct ones to buy for the regular Pantorouter I am building? I just purchased the plans so I want to make sure I have acquired all the correct hardware before I start building. Thanks!
The 18" ones are long enough, but if you buy he longer ones, you *might* be able to get all you need out of just one slide.
Hello from indonesia
Did you consider adding a wiper to the front? Perhaps one farther back on the other end.
How about a dry lube like graphite to avoid grime build up?
Bom Dia amigo! Gosto muito dos seus videos! Sera que vc pode adicionar a legenda em protugues?Good morning mate! I really like your videos! Can you add the subtitle in English? Portuguese
A wee bit more information on the centering sleve punch would be greatly appreciated, Matthias!
nexus01gr looks like a metal tube of the same diameter as the holes. Then just ran a nail down the centre.
Looks quite hefty for a simple tube, plus there are threads in there. It reminds me of electronic board spacers and I was wondering what it really was. But thanks anyway!
it is a spacer, might even have been used for electronic boards.
Darn good idea. Bet I’ll have forgotten by the next time I need one
Thanks, Matthias! Time for some scavenging...
I wonder about maybe welding a socket onto the vice, thereby enabling a torque wrench to clip on for consistent "squishing" : ) .
2:58 Me doing anything, ever. I know the problem coming up, plan ahead to mitigate, and everything just goes to pieces anyway. :-)
What if you removed the the outer most bracket from the telescoping full extension drawer slide and just use the inside two brackets? Would that eliminate the play?
the middle part doesn't have a good place to screw it onto something
Matthias Wandel ah I see. Thanks for the reply. I have plans on using the middle part for a project requiring a sliding table. I dont want to have to buy anything for this project and I've had a couple of them laying around for years so I'll give it a try and report back. I'm pretty sure there's a way or I could be delusional haha. Thanks again! I'm a huge fan and your channel continues to inspire me for my shop shenanigans.
I tried that, for a 3D printer, but i soldered the middle part on the outer one and removed the stop in the end, it is almost perfect for my needs
Since i bought the plans for the original pantarouter would i have to buy a new set or will i be able to download an updated version...i still have yet to build the original so it would be nice to have the updates if its free. Thanks and good job on your videos : )
you can re-download the latest version when they are ready.
Maybe some cheap door threshold brush would work well to fully block the edges and back of dust intrusion.
Nice video! Allt this precision work makes me realise I should never build one of thees. I am more of a mm guy myself. My thoughts immediately went to buying the metal one instead. Perhaps you should have a link to where ppl can buy the metal pantorouter, if u still get a comission.
Woodgears.ca has links to the Hybrid Pantorouter site but you can go here: hybridpantorouter.jp
Berra Lilltroll he has a deal set up with a company called kuldeep (sp?) He has covered them before and I believe in his prevoous video announcing this new pantorouter series of videos he did mention the website where you can purchase the metal one.
Matthias, knows his gazinta's...
Is it possible to put in a slight dado for each glide to close up the gap more rather than add more trim around the edges to keep dust out?
maybe, maybe not. either way, sounds like a lot more work than simply adding a few wood strips. it would probably weaken the platform too much anyway.
Can you put two pantorouters in series to get a 4:1 reduction?
You could add cloth or something to block out the dust on the side you didn't want to extend it!
Excellent ( comme d' habitude ) ;-)
Back in 2012 you redid a 9 inch band saw I have a Skil band saw do you know of a place I can buy some different blade guides thank you
no idea
The plans say "Use keyboard drawer slides or center drawer slides" I can't seem to find center drawer slides locally, can I use normal (non-telescoping) side mount drawer slides? Can you explain the recommendation for center mount a little more please?
Love your channel, long time fan, thanks in advance
Matthias, would you mind *temporarily* enabling auto-gen captions until human-generated captions are uploaded? I won’t tell anyone if it gets a word wrong, and it would be greatly appreciated.
When will you make a wooden Antikythera Mechanism?
Pepper Spray (click spring) In brass but worth a watch.
P'S pmsl
Clickspring got the idea from me, look at his videos comment sections before he started the project.
Instead of putting that rear dustcover on the board that would allow dust in, why didn't you attach it to the bottom board so that it could do the same job but without leaving an opening while fully extended?
You could add a piece of felt, squeegee, brush (like door sweep) etc to your base plate so it keeps dust out when the top plate goes past the edge. Mount the sweep on the fixed part so the movable part doesn't drag dust and debris into the cavity.
Or a piece of wood in between the sliders on front and back edge of the top or bottom plates.
Congratulations
Parabéns
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So offended by this video!!! You do you matthias! Still interesting and informative.
bonus points for blood showing at 9m10s.
cool
What about a rod with linear bearings?
Luis Figueroa see the vid on his second channel
im surprised you didn't make your own wooden drawer slides /s