How to free a jammed central heating pump
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2018
- How to free a jammed central heating pump east step by step tutorial, Another simple DIY video to help save you some money.
In many cases after your central heating has been switched off for long periods of time you may find that the central heating pump and become jammed or seized.
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You sir are an absolute legend, bless you! Coming into winter, a five year old and a 10 month old baby and the council don't have after hours apparently. All sorted thanks to you 👍🏼
EssexRc brilliant glad it helped and everyone is safe and warm 😁 👌🏻👍🏻
You absolutely just saved us so much time. We had a plumber who was meant to come around and fix ours but kept making excuses and not showing up. We can finally be in our new house by Christmas.
Fixed my issue, thanks! Pump was running, but there may have been an air lock or debris because now all 3 zones work. Lots of spitting of air before flow began. I unscrewed it each time I turned on a zone, same each time. Much appreciated!
Absolute legend Dan - Mrs was complaining all evening yesterday when I got back from work at 7pm as she wanted to take the chill off the house and the CH was not working. Called our plumber this morning and he was off on his leave (fair enough) but said to Google you - all fixed and working again via this and Mrs happy - happy wife - happy life!!!! Cheers mate - lets hope it kicks in tomorrow morning! 🙂
Haha nice one I appreciate that, glad it helped 😁👍🏻💪🏻✌🏻
thank you sir, not the first time you've help me out of failed central-heating system in the middle of winter!
N Jones always a pleasure thank you
Thanks so much for posting this trick! We came back from vacation and found no heat in the house. Then I started searching the web and found your video. I did not even had to go any further than just unscrewing the first screw. After I started turning it off, just less than a half turn, the pump started working. My pump is Armstrong, Astro 23CI. You saved me a lot of money! Happy New Year and best wishes to you and your family!
Thank you so much for this video as I couldn’t wait days for someone to come and fix it. With ur help I fixed it in minutes. I’m very happy woman lol
Glad it helped 😁👌🏻
I had 8C / 46F in the house. You have just solved the issue. Thank you! 🙏😘
2 minutes after i watched the video my heaying was working after it had been off for 7 months!! Can't thank you enough all the best😎
Thank you 1000x... So simple... My pump works again!!!
Tried everything and then watched your video! Thankyou!!!!!!
Thanks, got mine working again 👍
Not used it since the Spring, just needed spindle moving with the screwdriver.
Glad it helped, thanks for the support
Just tried this and it worked. Amazing. Cheers
Oh my god. You've fixed my central heating. Awesome.
Great tip to fix the heating problem! Thank you.👍
Thanks Dan ,done what you said and it started working 😅 👍 nice and warm again thanks
Good work Sir ! I'm going to check mine now
Worked for me, thank you very much!
At 2.28 Dan says because it can turn - the electics are burnt out. But turning it can free deposits and gunge. So reconnect power and it works ! Great positive explanation nevertheless !
Brilliant, thank you!
Thanks for the video. I had flushed my hot water tank and the pump was locked up due to air in the line. I opened the top cap 5-6 times to vent off the air and everything works as expected!
I was ready to buy a new pump, but first I watched your video and yes it was stuck, now subscribed thanks very much, from Coventry 🇬🇧👍
Thanks for the support 👍🏻🇬🇧 glad it helped you out!
Do It All Dan put it this way, with the weather colder I have a happy warm wife! Thanks again👍🇬🇧.
Happy wife happy life hahaha
Great advice.
Thank you you saved me some money
Big Thx! Thank to you i was able to run the pomp
Thank you my man!
Just did this , you’re a legend mate 🇦🇺
You Legend! I tnought i was going to need to replace my pump or have to take apart ( id have a go nervously ).
It was exactly the solution i needed, opened the screw and turn the spindle with a screwdriver, put back and off she went !
Thank you very much, ive subscribed to your channel and if youre ever in Cork, Ireland theres a couple of drinks there for you !
10/10
Might hold you to that one day 😂👍🏻💪🏻
My hot water wasnt working, spun the coil round about 15 times and it sprung back to life. Thank you
saved my day, thx!
thanks great video.
Excellent sir. It worked first time exactly as you said. And there was me thinking I was going to have to lay out for a new pump 🙄. Always ask a man who actually knows what he's doing 😀.
Thank you glad it helped you 💪🏻
You are the best mate!! Thankyou verry much for help!! 5stars!! All the BEST my friend!
Glad I could help many thanks
Thanks mate! My heating uses uses exactly same pump you showed here so it was really helpful. Greetings from Serba ✌
Glad it helped
Another extremely thankful person here! We had cold water for 2 days. Our boiler wasn’t pumping water, kept getting f.22 error even when the pressure gauge was at 1.5. I just did this to the pump inside the boiler and voila! Hot water in our taps again! Told my husband I wanted to kiss you, he wants to kiss you too 😂😂😂😂. THANK YOU!🎉
Haha glad it helped 😁😁😁💋
it was the solution of f75 error of my vaillant combi boiler. thanks.
Just helped me out big time there now great video
Glad it helped mate I appreciate the support 👍🏻
I had one that wouldn't run but was free and, from a check of the winding resistance, still OK from that point of view. What had failed was the capacitor (2uF, the value of the capacitor in the case of the pump you have there is printed on the label). I located a suitable replacement (it has to be a 450vac type often simply called a motor run capacitor) and fitted it (a fairly easy job) and its been back in service for many years. Way cheaper than a new pump.
Hi thanks to you
Problem fixed
Cheers pal, you sorted me out. :)
👍🏻
Would this procedure work with a Grundfos hot water circulator? The pump looks very similar and has the same screw.
thxxxx!!. i knew there was an easy way for this. lifesafer :D
No trouble 👍🏻
looking for info on my system(heating my house & water) from a Trinity installed system about 10 years ago, that uses this same red pump that works but keeps running well after(like an hour) ending my usage of hot water (don't need heating at this time of year in Canada). Should I perform this operation of loosening? It does get quite hot.
Merci!
Thx for your help was very helpful. Just subscribe to your channel
hi dan we have problem with the wall thermosat that we have to have it on at 30 but when we turn it down to 20 it comes on but goes off and does not come back on when the rooms have cooled down so we changed thermosat but problem still continues could this fault be caused by the water pump.
Im guessing the system is turned off b4 you take the cap off. Thanks guna try it now
My grundfos pump is extremely hot to touch .. I presume this is not right... but my radiators are warm and working .. cheers
Good lad
Water Pressure!: Thank you Dan, my pump is integrated within the combi boiler. My first (and only!) suspician was the pump, which was confirmed by your excellant video. So I checked it to make sure that it was, as you suggested, not jammed by summer inactivity. After a while of fiddling with the pump and it not starting up and it appeared to be free, my thoughts, confirmed by yours, indicated that a replacement pump was needed.What a pity, but there you are! At which point, my eyes inadvertantly strayed onto the boilers water pressure guage where I noticed the pressure was very low. Doh! I topped the system up and the pump sprung into life. Ach, I should have checked that first! I hope this helps others!
do you need to drain the syatem forst/turn off those taps either side?? tx
I have grundfos ups 15-58 fc, mine doesn't have that screw right in the front, it's just flush. Any ideas what to do?
What does it mean if lots of water keeps squirting out when you take out the vent screw?
My mate wants to use anti freeze in his system! Can it be done?
Hi Dan - great video - I have a question. If I want to carry out the routine shown in this video, do I switch the CH OFF to do it or leave it running?
I did mine running,
Hi Dan thanks for vid. My Dab pump is really hot. Central heating and water is fine but humming noise and boiler flashes.
Hi there,
Follow the steps in this video to see if the motor is spinning I have a feeling the pump motor has burned out. Just be sure it isn't air locked for any reason.
Thanks
Hi Dan did you say in the video that it was burned out and needed a new pump, if so why did you not have to replace it
If it needed replacing it will have been on a different video 👍🏻
Your videos are so helpful thank you! But could the pump be faulty even if some of the rads get hot + hot water cylinder but all other rads furthest from pump are all cold?
Do you have any valves on the system in the airing cupboard, 3port or two 2 ports?
@@DoItAllDan thank you for following up!! Yes there is a 2 port diverter valve next to the pump which diverts water between central heating and hot water cylinder
Top video bit how do you apply torque to that irritating staggered slot if it's actually seized?
Never had one that is seized, but is would suggest lubricant and the largest flat head or flat wrench you have.
@@DoItAllDan I filed a gap in a flathead to make a "snake eye" profile and managed to apply enough torque to break the screw head, still seized though 😂
Thanks for prompt reply!
Thanks for the video, really good. When I undo the big brass screw on mine I have what looks like a square fitting in there and can’t use a screwdriver. Any ideas what tool I need to use please?
I’m not quite sure what you mean, normally you can use a large screwdriver to turn the spindle 👍🏻
Ok thanks for the reply, appreciate it 👍🏼
Yes mine is the same. Red Grundfos, can't get a srcrew driver in there, looks like it needs a square allen key fitting
You should be ok with a large flat head screwdriver I have not seen an Allen key one 👍🏻
thanks for the video
👌🏼👌🏼
You can use a penny coin and pliers to open the screw
Hi Dan what if water comes spraying out with force when the bleed / impeller screw is opened? is the pump done?
Hi there, the pump shouldn’t be spraying out with force normally a small trickle of water to say that it has been bled from the bleed screw. If you are experiencing a lot of water I would suggest it needs replacing.
Do you need to switch off power off to do that
So when you put the screwdriver in to this center screw, should the device still be plugged in our unplugged? Thanks!
Switched off is fine 👍🏻
Thsi was seized for me. I tried exactly as you said but needed alot of torque, next thing, the my screw driver starts spinning and can hear the motor. YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING LEGEND!!! THIS TUTORIAL IS GREAT
Hahahaha thanks for the support I'm glad it helped 👍🏻
Hello! Can anyone help me with my issue? Namely, from some reason, heating is not working, and I tried to check the pump, by unscrewing the cap as in this video (to try to start it manually), but when I removed the cap on the pump, water started to come out in the stream. I closed it quickly, as pressure started to go down. Is it normal thing? Do I need to ignore the water stream and to try quickly to unscrew the screw inside the pump to check if it is jammed?
Do you have to turn the water of at the pump before doing that?
No you do not need to turn the water off 👍🏻
am i correct -is he saying if spindle is turning freely-its burnt out and needs a new pump at 2.33------- other videos say it needs to be turning freely in order to circulate water?
How do you unscrew the big screw. Seems tight. Tried using a screw driver bu my screw driver is too small. Tried using pliers and a coin but it bent the coin.
You will need a large flat head screwdriver, using anything else may risk damaging the head.
My heater is continuously humming, I've tried bleeding the system but nothing works, it happens on all 3 settings continuously on and engaging the boiler to kick in every few minutes
if iv got a combi boiler i dont have a pump like that is that correct please
It will
Be inside the boiler unfortunately
Do you need to turn off the Central Heating before unscrewing the screw ?
Thats what i was thinking too
Hi Dan what happens if water is coming out and not seeming to stop do I need a new pump you think
Hi Peter, do you mean out of the bleed screw on the front if off? If so it's meant to so just tighten it back on if it's weeping you may need to replace a seal.
It's from the side of the pump you may need an engineer to take a look an potentially replacing it
@@DoItAllDan hi Dan thanks for quick reply water is trickling out of vent screw when you take off but doesn't seem to stop I just thought a little water would come out and then stop but mine didn't stop trickling out
Hi Peter no it's meant to trickle out when the vent is off as long as it stops and seals when the screw is replaced you are ok 👌🏻.
The vent screw is removed to release any air when the air has purged water will begin to trickle out when this happens replace the screw and reseal.
My pump was installed last week it is giving a frying sound and very hot appears to be overheating
This is just an initial thought but it could be a faulty motor within the pump, especially if its getting very hot. Too hot to touch? The additional burning sounds backs this up to be honest, Just give the installer a call to return as u suspect the motor, when he gets there make sure its not just air running through the pump and creating an air lock.
hope this helps
Hi Dan, As I'm unscrewing there is a lot more than a dribble coming out and it has a bit of pressure behind it too. So I've stopped and hopefully you can advise what to do now? Should i isolate the system?
There should not be a build up of pressure, I would advise let an expert take a look as the pump may need replacing, or go ahead and isolate the pump valves and replace it yourself 👍🏻
Hi Dan, cheers for the rapid reply.
It wasn't a lot of pressure but there was some squirting. There was probably 500ml of water but I think that could do with the pumps location.
Long story short, got the cap off, impeller spun freely. Turned everything back on and could hear it running softly. Few taps with the hammer and it would kick into gear.. For about 10 seconds then I got the red light of death again. Burnt out you reckon?
Doesn't look great, if you can hear air running through that could be a cause but Normally u can tell if it's burnt out by how quickly it gets hot. If it gets red hot in a small amount of time chances are it's gone
@@DoItAllDan bullocks 😟
Thats what I thought to, was very hot to touch.
Anyway, cheers for your help, very good video and I felt confident to give it a go. Subscribed 👍
Hi Dan, when I try to turn it it’s stuck, I’m afraid to use force! Should I? 🤦♀️
Not sure if you’re still active or not but mine is a little different. It’s more like a nut so can’t use flathead, also has a black plastic top. Is it the same process? Hope you’re well
If you need to vent the pump then it may depend on which pump you have, the bleed screw is at the front of the head as standard 👍🏻
Hi Dan, don't know if you're still replying on here but would the knocking I hear be this? I've got hot water but no heating. Condensing boiler. Thanks.
Hi Jim it’s very difficult to diagnose something like this just over messages where is the knocking coming from? It could be pipework through heat expansion.
When you open the screw - should pump be running or stopped?
Running
So if it turns its burnt out?
Do you need to isolate the valves either side?
Only if removing
Good video...but can you tell me why a central heating pump stays on continuously and how would we turn it off as ours won't turn off! Thanx
It shouldn’t be running constantly, have an electrician look over your setup
@@DoItAllDan Valve stuck...changed valve ...now fixed (;o) thanx
Hi - 'DIAD' - what you did not say is what happens if when you go to turn that 'thingy' it doesn't turn?
New pump 👍🏻
That pump in that orientation ain't great for a pump but sometime unavoidable. More risk of air in the system and burning motor out.
Thank you, totally agree and as you know almost always unavoidable 😆👌🏼
Thanks for this video Dan,been sat in the cold for ages. Man who came 2 weeks ago said he wasn't allowed to tell us how to fix it because it's a GasSafe issue.
Just got over one chest infection and don't want another.
Yeah they won't normally because it will do them out of some money, always worth a look to see if u can fix it yourself. Bust saying it's a gas Safe issue when it's a plumbing problem is a little naughty lol.
Glad it helped make sure u keep warm 💪🏻👍🏻
If the pump was inside the boiler casing it is only a gas safe engineer who can remove the casing.
Very true tbf
Turned my heating on for the first time this winter today. The timer for both water and heating showed both switching off at the set time but the pump continued running. I presume the valve is stuck in the pump. Is it a case of having the pump changed again or is there something I can do before calling someone out? It seems to happen every couple of years, despite having the systems flushed.
Make sure it's not a pump overrun 👍🏻
Thanks for your reply. I switched everything off including electrics last night, switched it back on again, reset the time etc and tonight the pump switched off as normal within about 5 minutes or so of the heating/water going off.
Glad I came across your site, I have hit the 'like' button and 'subscribe'.
Many thanks I’m glad it’s up and running now 👍🏻
Do you need to drain line when you take off big screw with the gasket??
No, just vent
Do It All Dan what does vent mean to an unprofessional ??
Sorry, unscrew the cap until a trickle of water has a steady flow that means you have vented the air out 👍🏻
Do It All Dan then I can take it off and see if it’s stuck Inside?
What if I can't move the screw with hand or machine completely stuck screw
Can you not use a large screwdriver?
2:21 mine totally fell apart from rust :( Is there a way to disassemble it and replace it? Or do I have to get a new one? They don't make them anymore so I can't really get a new one
You will have to replace I do have a video on how to do this 👍🏻
@@DoItAllDan the problem is mine is not connected directly to a pipe, it has sort of a diamond output, don't know how to call it. And every new pump goes straight to a pipe like in your video
so if it turns freely then its burnt out and you need a new one? I don't get it sorry
Hello mate thanks for the video. My pumps really loud - can hear a subtle hum almost throughout the house when it's on. Reckon it's knackered myself...
@waquzy new pump!
Mine seems to be working properly but if I take cover off water pours out and won't stop does this mean it needs replacing
You mean the bleed screw ? Of so this is normal and should slowly trickle water
did you end up fixing it? i had the same problem with water pouring out.
@@00el04 no just left it seems to be working ok
I opened mine and water came out of it is the pump gone
What happens if the pump is running and hot to the touch, but on pipes on the left are cold. How do we troubleshoot?
Isolate and remove head
I can't get my screw to loosen
I tried this and I got a continuous flow of water out of the pump instead of a little bit like yours, would you know what causes that?
The pump shouldn't be pouring with water excessively, it will need to be Inspected further to diagnose
@@DoItAllDan thanks for your reply! I rewatched your video and I just realised that I didn't turn on the central heating before doing it, could the flow of water be because it wasn't turned on or there's definitely something wrong with it?
I turned Central heating off, then removed screw, water continuously came out slowly but enough to soak the rag. I turned the internal screw wit no resistance and it would push in and out if I put pressure on it then release the pressure. I replaced outer screw and switched back on but still no heating?!
Pump doenst seem to be running?!
I would check any additional valves on the system, 2 port valves etc
Water keeps trickling out of mine (like when you air a radiator) is that normal?
Not if the screw is tight no
@@DoItAllDan From the inside (once outer screw has beeb removed) the water keeps trickling out
If you have removed then big brass screw from the front with a large flat head screwdriver and it is trickling water then the pump is bled and no more air is in there, screw the screw back in tight and test 👍🏻
Hi Dan - I have pump that isn't working on my underfloor heating. The LED on the front of the pump is off. Does this mean its brunt out? Also before I try your advice in the video do I need to turn the water off or is it ok without? Thanks.
No need to turn water off however I would turn off the heating best practice, as for the led it will depend on the set up I'm afraid the best way is to check to see if u have power there first and that the motor in any pump is working 👍🏻
@@DoItAllDan Thanks for the quick reply. I fear the pump may need replacing but will do the check in your video before I think about a plumber.
Good man, see how u get on just make sure your working safely 👍🏻
@@DoItAllDan Will do - thanks!
@@DoItAllDan Dan you are a star. That worked a treat. Pump is working again. Thanks for saving me the cost of a plumber which would have been a challenge in lockdown.
What happens if you can’t turn the screw inside? Mine is completely jammed!
If you are unable to free it up, it may need replacing
Our new pump’s speed light keeps turning off after about 5 minutes and it’s very hot to touch, what’s the problem?
First of all make sure the pump is running and you can feel/hear it working do the checks as mentioned in my videos.
Do you have any zone valves (small normally silver or white boxes in airing cupboard) make sure they are opening by checking that the pipework is hot after and before the valve, if it's hot on one side (flow to the valve) then it could be a faulty valve there is a small lever on the side you can slide open and it will begin to flow.
If you believe it is the pump you can try to free it up by unscrewing the silver screw as shown in the video to try and free it up, or give it a strong sharp strike to get it working. Hope this gives you an idea feel free to ask again if your not sure
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