What It's Like To Serve In South Korea's Mandatory Military Service
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2017
- South Korea requires all of its male citizens to serve in the military for two years. Here's what that experience is like.
Footage courtesy of Goyang TV, 2012
Following is a transcript of the video.
The hardest part was when I and my group had to go into this gas-filled room.
My name is Gene Kim, and I served in the South Korean military for 2 years.
The law requires every male to serve the military, and it is extremely hard to get out of it. If you purposely evade the military duty, you will get jail time.
The service is mandatory mainly because our relationship with North Korea. After things got intensified after the Korean War, there was a need for an active force for the South Koreans, so the military can always be ready.
I served the Korea military between the years of 2009 and 2011. Before the military, I was living in New York. I decided to go because I had to get it over with it at some point.
At the time I did my military service, I hated it.I just hated every moment being in there, trapped in that isolated society. And I just waited for my time to pass.
I haven't seen a single person who really wanted to be there, who was enthusiastic to be there. People generally want to avoid the military because, I think, of the forcefulness of it. Compared to the US, where the military is voluntary, and you can pursue it as a career, in Korea, 2 years of service is mandatory, and everyone is forced to do it.
You're living your free life and then suddenly isolated from the rest of the society. You have no contact. You can’t fill your cell-phone addiction there. And you're basically sacrificing 2 years of your youth for the nation.
So, on the first day when you enter the military. As soon as you enter this training base, you meet these instructors that train you for 5 weeks on from there. They intentionally try to intimidate you, try to scare you, in order to make you into a soldier.
This 5 weeks of training was one of the most intense experiences I had. You’re not even a private at this moment. You are a trainee. The training is very intense. You are yelled at constantly. You don't have a voice there. You can only do what you're told to do and nothing else.
You learn to move very fast. When you’re ordered something, you have to run to get it, you have to run to do it. And if you hesitate, you get picked on for that. If you get around 5 minutes of rest, then you're happy with that. You re-learn things that you thought you already knew. There's a certain way to eat. There's a certain way to stand. There’s a certain way to talk to people. There's a certain way to do everything in the military.
One of the most memorable trainings that I did was this training called "화생방 훈련." Which is to prepare soldiers to defend against a chemical attack. The hardest part was when I and my group had to go into this gas-filled room.
And you enter the room with your gas mask on, and there's also an instructor there with a gas mask on. He eventually orders you to put off the gas mask. And when you're exposed to this gas it doesn't have long-term effects on you, but anywhere that's exposed would hurt like hell. It feels like a thousand needles just pinching on to you and grabbing onto you.
And when you inhale this gas, it feels like you're suffocating. Basically, you can’t breathe. It's just chaos in that tiny room. Everyone’s grabbing onto each other. Everyone’s rolling on the floor. There was this one guy. He ran to the door trying to get out, but there was a guard there who prevented that. And it was total chaos.
After your 5 weeks of training, you’re relocated to your battalion. So, this is your home from now on. You would stay there for your private to sergeant life. From day one to the end of your service, you hear a lot about North Korea from the officials.
They designate the North Korean military as our enemy. This was the first time when I learned that North Korea has invaded South Korea even after the truce multiple times.
I don't know if it's because I've been brainwashed, but now I'm convinced that they have the capability and will to do a lot of damage to the Korean Society. There's always a potential that the North Koreans can Invade us and the military's trying to prepare for that.
Looking back at the experience, I think I gained a few things. There's a saying in the military, "If you can't make it work, make it work." I learned that if you really put your will and just do it, then I can really achieve...I feel like I can achieve anything.
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This is why their gamers are so legit. They’re all veterans
Not at all.
hahaha
Because of PCbang culture
@BaneOfPhillipBurnell Wrong. You can go through your entire military career without going to war and still be a veteran when you get out. If you're a veteran of a war of any sort you put the name of the war before "veteran". That's why we call WW2 veterans, WW2 veterans and Vietnam war veterans, Vietnam war veterans...
@BaneOfPhillipBurnell Everyone who has ever served in the armed forces with an honourable discharge are legally veterans. But to respect the ones who have actually been in war they just call themselves ex-soldiers.
I am a Korean and my military service starts tomorrow. Wish me luck!
Edit: my military service ended without any trouble. Thank you all for your support.
to the window to the wall 잘 다녀오세요!!!
You don't need luck bro,you'll be fine,the first week is always the most painful time,you will pass it, fighting.
hope you’re doing ok man:)
Good luck man! How old are you?
Good luck sweetie take care and be safe 💜
Word of knowledge: Never invade south korea, everybody is a veteran there
No only the men. I wonder when are we going to hear femunists demanding that women are drafted too?
@@billburr5881 I mean there are some women who can voluntarily join the army so some female aswell are veterans
@@juanchoresultay2704 Voluntarily is the operative word. The men get no choice. How about we reverse it for a decade or two? Women join or go to jail but men get a choice. Does that sound fair?
@@billburr5881 Of course not but I never said we force women aswell to join because they have right whether to enter or not enter that field its not just one gender (I’m not a radical feminist) .
Also how is you’re question related what I said? Did I ever say we should manadtorize women aswell and reverse the roles? I was only stating an observation there could be a few women who volunteered in the army and also maybe become veterans because their government allows women to join voluntarily (I’m not a feminist) just stating a fact they could volunteer not force or mandatorize like the men . I was not implying they should reverse the roles and of course that would be unfair . It would be unfair if women were not allowed to join the army at all cause there are some women who are brave to fight just like men . Anyone with limited and unfair roles is not good because they need to prosper and work together to achieve success and its not just only one gender in a specific role who can do the job they will new brains and character to help the ones who are have limited mindsets
@@billburr5881 If its that other way around nothing will change for good which is wrong but it does not mean it would just be men who will only do that role but also women aswell who are willing to fight and work together as one and not in a divided way . Both genders that are smart and have good characters not stupidity in the character and thinking’s
Who's here after bts confirmed their military service-
Me :(
Me
🙏
Not funny or cool to type comment like this, who's here after BTS news.
-_-
Me 😕 bro I don’t want them to suffer that much having to take off the gas masks they’re gonna change so much after this
Psy (the guy who made Gangnam Style) has military experience...
Just think about that.
Bang bang style
@@AnttonEths oppa bang bang style
@@professorrosenstock5026 op op op op op oppa bang bang style
He literally did twice of it. He took mandatory military service for four years. Sad story but true. Commented by ROK ARMY private. Semper fi!
solcityboi 아따 군대 좋아졋다? 유튜브도하고?
No wonder the zombie soldiers in Train To Busan was fast af
😂😂😂
Hell nah😂😂😂
I had to laugh at that 😂
FUCKFTJDTKGF
Lol
As a military wife till 2025 I'm here to know what exactly my husbands are about to sign into
thats why i'm here too
That's why I am here too
Same here
Lmao
Same girl same
I am a man who finished military service in Korea. I am a fourth year in reserve and when I was active, I was a soldier in charge of administrative affairs in the unit, and the task was the operation of our division. While serving as a soldier for 21 months in the military, there were many difficulties and hardships, but there were many pleasant and happy memories. In particular, I still can't forget the performance of the military band and the cheers of the juniors who welcome our company when they return to the barracks after marching in the training center. At this moment, I would like to express my gratitude once again to the Korean Armed Forces Soldier who protects my country by dedicating his youth throughout Korea.
Gods Army
Still, u were forced, & thát's wróng!
@@marijesauthenticchannelenj9437 we have no choice but to. Our north neighbour is a threat
How much time do u guys get now for using phone? And whats the time of sleeping and waking up?and others like meals,bath etc! I will be very very gratefull to you if u tell me those in small details...Please... 💜
The gas room is one of the first things you do in the US military
It *SUCKS*
In Chile you do that until you get used to it. Then you want more
Señor Hilter wdym It was alright after like 2 mins of not breathing😂
oh shoot. I remembered that CS gas.... it was like nightmare. but one good thing is....I had rhinitis(?) but it got better after the training.
That shit is the miracle cure for all your problems. Had the sniffles and the flu. But after going through that, I wanted to go again.
@@fuegofootball758 same for me hell...my gas mask was to big and had a bulge in it...when they pop the tablets...the first min was a moment of terror...than i quickly realize that shis couldnt really hurt me ....when we finally came out i realize that.my eyes where.blood shot red and snot was running out of my nose....not to.mention my face was burning...all in all it wasnt so
Not many people understand this but the Korea war technically never ended there was never a formal peace treaty signed
IVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR 30 YEARS
AwesomeMax217 obviously they are still in a “Cold War”
AwesomeMax217 People say this so much, I don’t think there is anyone who doesn’t know at this point. Most of us were aware 20 years ago, but now teenagers on the internet feel the need to shove it down your throat. “AKSHULLY THERE WAS NEVER A PEACE TREATY”
Wasn’t it signed last year?
czcams.com/video/RgLyiVOywGo/video.html
It formally ended a couple months ago
Fun Fact: Psy from Gangnam Style served in the military not once but twice lol
Why
because he tried to avoid it in the first place, i think the government made him go twice as a punishment
@@achaemenid To be precise, he was given industrial personnel instead of military servive, but it was found out that he didn't serve properly doing concerts and shows from time to time, so he had to serve avtive duty from the start again, meaning he got training twice
@@Randomuploads2012 dang bruh, you really can’t escape em 💀
He based
No wonder why koreans are such gods in PUBG tournaments
Because Korea is really strong at Game .
@meatiest BECAUSE EVERY ONE ON THE TEAM HAS BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF FIRE AND MANEUVER
@@danthelowblood2653 ya that's why im pretty good a siege
Because they're hackers like their Chinese brothers
haha i agree with that, they are capable soldier real life that can read situation and map direction
Imagine the north invade the south. They will be surprise that a guy selling street food wielding a gun going rambo..
Imagine being a guy selling street food and seeing a 4-5 million army of trained soldiers who serve much much longer than in the South Korea, invading your country. You'll shit yourself instantly.
Rambos exist only im movies
ZaKalEbal 4-5 million malnorished and poorly trained army with outdated weapons to be exact...🤣
Kevin Nguyen yup that too 🤣
No shooting gonna happen bruh. Nkorean soldiers just lay thier arms down and race towards SK side.
Keanu Reeves nah
Teens of my country- BTS, BTS
Teens of South Korea- yes, we will join the military
As a Indian I agree
bhai mere pagl hai kya teens in India bts bts, cant u see the difference they don't want to join military and here in India there are many people who will be more than happy to serve in the military if its mandatory ( no joke but guys like one in the video are the ones to surrender first and South Korea alone will never be able to defeat North Korea ). I am 16 and Ill be more than happy to join the mandatory military service in India if we had any.
I don't think anyone would willingly join the army
@@Ms.-Lily every soldiers in your country: I'm a joke to you?
so excited for bts to enlist already so their fans can shut up ❤
I am also a Korean guy who is currently serving for the Korean military. ( i am in the air force)
I respect the guy in the video because he was in the military in an isolated society
Nowadays, we can use phones in a certain period of time and we are going to use phone for 24 hours in less than a week.
My military discharge: 234 days left
Stay safe :D
다치지말고 무사히 전역하셔유
Good luck! Stay safe!
your name is junghwan and you currently serves in the air force and there is also junghwan from Reply 1988 drama that also serves in the air force HAHAHAHA, don't mind me it's just cool coincidence. good luck serving your country junghwan-ssi, respect!!!
Stay safe.
I remember my first weekend in Korea. I’m an American, walking around, admiring all the sights, sounds, and scenery. This elderly man walks up to me, thanked me for my service and welcomed me to Korea. He told me all these stories about his time in the military, all the beautiful places to visit, and really admired Americans in the military for their commitment. In America, you get that sort of treatment when others know you’re military, but you really have to stick out. I obviously stick out, being i was an American, in Korea. But as I sat and talked with him, the more I learned about their history, and just how much their military and security matters to them. They have to be strong because they have no choice. We have the luxury of having a voluntary service. They do not. And while they may not like their mandatory service, I know deep down they understand the rationale for it. And I think it’s just as respectable.
why is there no replies did youtube injected themself with liquid cigarettes again
Just wait till America gets in beef with China, your gonna be drafted. Sad, but true
I'm korean, and I'd like to thank you for your service, and US' friendship with my country. I've had an opportunity to do joint training mission with the american forces during my service, and you guys were amazing during training mission, but so cool and down to earth during down time. We exchanged MRE and smoked cigarette together after the mission. Huge respect for who you are, and what you do. Love from south korea.
Thank you for your service brother. These whiny pieces of shit piss me off.
@@sat2244 I'd volunteer before the draft
In america:
People who sees others who served in the military: *admiration and respect*
People in korea: You too huh?
owo more like :
First time ?
@@albaraqahtani lol
Triton 64 lol
I think it's pretty cool though because when you meet another guy it's like "where were you stationed" and it's a bonding experience.
More like
S.korean man : I served my country.
Korean politians,women :
So what? I'm not gonna praise you cause everyone doing the same thing.
So shut up. You're not special.
I'm not making this up. Young korean men are victim of society.
During the LA riots, the Rooftop Koreans became famous for defending their stores from looters. Because of mandatory military service, pretty much every first generation Korean American male in the community was familiar with guns.
Many of the Roof Top Koreans were also combat-hardened Vietnam veterans too.
If Latasha Harlins had military experience perhaps the rebuff would've never happen and only Soon Ja Du would be gone.
@@jp3630 Maybe Latasha Harlins shouldn't have shoplifted.
@@capmidnite Maybe the Japanese should have struck Pearl Harbou, then the ones in the US wouldn't have been interned in camps.
Maybe Ukrainian families should not border Russia, then they would have some heating, HAHAHA.
@@capmidnite She didn't shoplift. Read the transcripts. Stop slandering the wrong person.
Kim seokjin I wish you luck and be safe💜
They're all going together in 2022 it's confirmed by Hybe (BH). Forget what I just said, I looked further into it and found it it's just a rumour
Yah I know but I will wait for them all
Military training was that really hard
And I am worried to them
But we need to wait be strong
Best fandom ever(•‿•)
So when they go, BTS will become Army
@@shahasraayeduru5201 I don't if that's an awkward or serious question
But I will answer both of them
First if they enlist together it will sure they will join army(not the fandom)
I think it will take long but not much I think they trained for about 18 months I think but at least they probably comeback all together
because we will be on pain if one of them will back year by year thank God it will not.
Next Bts will army too because we are the fan of their own and they adore and loved each other like us so no matter what happens we should always support and be happy for them because they are human too.just give them a chance to have a normal life as a k citizen even it's hard for us
Sorry for my grammar and a long statement 😝
@Eden Haney It was just a rumor
Obviously this guy didn’t participate in the US vs South Korea dance battle. He would’ve had a different opinion
Ah, I see you are a man of culture
You Are Reading This ah, hello fellow cultured man
@@TalksOfLife1 ahh yes the war on the beats
K-pop dancers aren't the best
I think Bollywood dancers are the best
ThiccBoyThunder bro we all are cultured men here
"Oh noo, my South Korean "boyfriend" will suffer in this, i don't want to see them suffer"
-every 13 yo girls i meet for the past 2-3 years.
kpop stans are truly a plague
They’re Also Plaguing My Schoolmates AF
Why are you meeting 13 year olds?
@@jackwedlock7102 that one day i HAD to socialize and go to my sister's school.
@@PakkiNakki not all mate dont generalize
totally relate with this guy, same experience here in switzerland, the yelling, the sleep deprivation, the stress, the waiting
Thanks Gene. I appreciate the video. I had several Korean students who talked about the 2 years of training in the SK military but I only had vague conceptions of it. This video gives me a good understanding of what that 2 years entailed. I remember my students saying how much they dreaded that 2 years but how the experience turned them into a man.
All the more respect to super famous ppl like BTS for insisting on completing their military service, even though they probably could have gotten exemption due to their music achievements and cultural/financial contributions to their country. Kpop idols are also known to get more harassment and a harder time in the military, as well as invasion of privacy instances (ie. photos taken of them for blackmail or sell to the press). So I'm sure they were dreading it too, but said it was their honor to serve their country.
95% of comments: complaining about people complaining about kpop stars having to enlist
5% of comments: people complaining about kpop stars having to enlist
100% of comment of sections is this
Are u doing your math right hon?
Dolphin nah I like kpop but I ain’t complaining some fangirls smhhhh
@@Moon-0777 Yes he did Which is 100%
People wouldn’t be complaining if the kpop fans weren’t complaining, you just arent looking deep enough
I think BTS after military training would never be the same again.
Not all of the training is as intense as this. There are different types of training in military service. You can choose which type you want. If you want the intense, marine level training, you can do that. You can also just do public service, like a police officer.
@@juliakawaii do you know where I can read more about that?
jonginsbih nope. Unless you receive D point (lvl 4) at your physical test, you need to be in service. Lvl 1-3 requires military service. Lvl 4 is required for public service. Lvl 5. No service required. To receive lvl 4 or 5. You need to have life time injury or disease or needs to be disabled.
Military training hasn't done a whole lot of impact on singers any ways. It's about their ability (which is their voice). So singers and actors are the least affected by it, sometimes they get even more famous. However athletes on the other hand essentially get ruined post military service. They build muscles where it's not needed and lose skills along the way. Hence, many athletes consider military service the end cap of their sports career.
@@mintyfresh4855 It's not about their singing ability or their voice that will change. It's about how their characters will change.
Because nearly every man is well trained, some people say that you can make a entire batallion immediately with people on a metro car in here South Korea.
Mandatory service sucks for sure but it has its own advantages I guess
They know that freedom isn’t free.
@@sgtmayhem7567 ha, we dont know that. the government doesnt recognize nk as a threat. they've been sending resources worth over millions over the border. they literally wrote out the part in the defense white paper where it stated that nk is our enemy. late teenage boys and young adult males are stripped from their freedom and are forced into the military which treats them like shit, they dont even get payed 1/4 of the minimum wage. everyone i know have been abused and mistreated during service. conscription is obv a violation of human rights and sk barely compensates for this 'sacred duty' as they like to call it. if s koreans were given a choice not to go to the military (without any punishment/societal repercussion by choosing so) almost everyone would choose not to serve.
No, zero advantages
@@sgtmayhem7567except there is no freedom, try being gae at south Korea 😂
when i'm with you, there is no one else
When citizens meet soldiers in US:
"you are hero", "thank you for service"
in South Korea:
"It is reasonable~", "poor guy..."
I feel like that's one of the bigger problems with the US. The military Enjoys a larger than life folk hero status, that leads to them never being questioned, and any attempt to reign in their excesses is seen as unpatriotic. There's just such a large disconnect between the US military and the citizens it serves.
In singapore, a large number of the piblic dislikes the boys serving their national service even though its mandatory.especially when we are taking the subway or any other form of public transport, the public will give dirty looks to us as if we are “dirty”. we can’t even take a seat on the subway as people might take pictures of us to criticise us online
I think so im korean i think that korea soldiers are my hero but many people in korea think it is natural. Also Korean soldiers arent treated well. The matters have to be changed. Also Amarican soldiers treated very well so there are many soldiers in america....
@@yjh3764 Yeah I agree their Pay is even lower than minimun wage. $300 per month
@@jaehyung2737 Many korean want to change the matters. But government use too much money to wrong way
Not everyone does, every man does. It's not mandatory for you if you are a woman.
You won't said that, if the woman is from Israel.
Charles Lord Not entirely true as women only have to serve for 24 months while men 32 ( was once 36).
I think I didn't make my point clear: Normally, around the world, only man does the mandatory military service. And wlgjs678, pointed out: " It's not mandatory for you if you are a woman ". But I answered, " You won't said that, if the woman is from Israel ", which means, Israel is the only country in the world that women have military "mandatory" service. And yes BG, you made it clear, women makes shorter time than man, in Israel. Something else, since Israel had so many war with their so called "brother" Ismael descendants or muslim religion, in case of another future war, to my understanding, Israel's military can call up conscripts of 500,000 people in 24 hours and 1 million in 72 hours.
Charles Lord Actually Cuba, Norway, North Korea, Chad, Tunisia and Eritrea also have mandatory military service for women.
Charles Lord
because Israel IS ACTUALLY a true and non hypocritical pure feminist.
Thank you for sharing your story about your experience in the South Korea military, especially living in a country of South Korea that it was constantly a threat by your neighbor to the North. Hope you can share more about your time in the South Korean military.
Who's here because they worry about Jin?
ME
🥺😭😭😭😭😭😭
Been stressing for a while but at least he’s almost back… hoping the others are okay though
I'm 15, Korean and I'm so *not* excited for my Mandatory Military Service.
You should be
I want to join my countries military when i’m of age (18) i’m excited but i can see why ur not i wish u luck though
@Nari1102 That's illegal. A famous celebrity did it and he's permanently banned from Korea
It's ok, I mean yes, you won't have anyone to coddle you, beatings will be regular but in the end you'll realize its not done on a personal level (unless you are 고문관) it's to beat everyone into shit, it strips you of your ego, identity and hubris. It is to reset everyone at the lowest and build them up together. Would I do my 2 years again? No, but do I regret my training there? No. It made me what I am today and will fill you with confidence. You can do it.
@Nari1102 in Russia we have this kind of mandatory military service but for one year. Regardless, I think they take my life and time away from me and other young people. Additionally, they have nothing to give us instead of the stolen freedom. No one young man treating themselves with respect and not relating their life with the military should get through this. In my case, I postponed the service for 6 months in December. Now I'm studying to evade the army and go abroad, living far from Russia till I turn 27 years old. It's such a blessing to have the law which gives you the right to choose your faith.
I like how he is smart enough to recognise he might have been brainwashed
Yeah, except this isn't brainwashing as much as it is eye-opening and fact stating from the officials of his nation to the danger and threat posed by their neighbor.
Growing up with stories from my parents, grandparents (from SK to NK who escaped) and their parents, they’re all under the consensus that the current youth doesnt understand the danger posed by NK.
Umm it's a very real concern look at North Korea
@@antonisk.2165 But No rewards.
Unlike Indians in my country
Thank you so much for your service and thank you again for this wonderful video. I'm starting my service in pretty much one month from now on and I'm really excited. See you!
How was it?
WOW.This was good,learned a lot.
My dad also went through his military service, although his bad eyesight made him become the manager of a golf club owned by the military instead of an actual soldier XD
wow his bad eyesight actually benefitted him there 😂
My bad hearing (mikrotia, one ear is deaf, and served in the FDF) made me in to a scribe? (There's no real translation) And I missed most of the worst training and carrying a 12 kg pkm in the forest for like 8h a day :D
They were missing one bmp-2 mechanic and that is where I ended up in the end, laying down on a table and drinking coffee in a prototype maintenance container while watching youtube for 80% of military camp time :D:D
Tho doing repairs in the field was quite a chore, and any bmp mechanic can probably agree.
Did your dad have an eye condition? Can't imagine everyone with glasses manage to pull it off.
@@Lekirius They quickly realized having glaucoma in combat wasn’t a good idea, but I’m pretty sure they would t just let him go.
he got lucky lol
common saying among koreans :
when country needs you, we are the son of the nation
when country doesn't need you anymore, we are on our own.
this is why nationalists are stupid, the country won't care for you once you are done serving them, why would you
@@NeostormXLMAX you don't do it for the government nor the people. You do not expect something in return. You do shit for the unconditional love for the country and flag and for the people that have fought their lives for the country.
@@NeostormXLMAX true that
@@joshhart5259 That logic leads to facism.
@@user-ti6zs3ux1c how does that logic lead to fascism? Its loving the country itself not the state or government.
Jin is going there this year!I really hope he will be okey there!
Who is here after Jimin and Jungkook the latest members who went on military?😢
I am korean. I dont care about bts. I don't listen to bts. I don't like kpop. And I hate my classmate for saying I used to go to bts elementary. I will go to military in around 4ish years. I will probably die there as by that time ww3 will happen. And I won't die a virgin.
Starting to see why a lot of Korean Students get into gun culture when they come into the U.S.
I took a few of them to a private range, expecting them to have never shot a weapon before. All of them brought suppressed AR’s and mp5 clones...
I mean,who doesnt love guns?
(Except the democrats)
I mean is it really that surprising? When you give them artillery,they can start bombarding immediately.
If you stand in the middle of busy street in Seoul and shout "Is anyone here that can operate a tank?" About 1/10 will raise their hand.
one some true. Very true. There are numerous tank units in the korean army. Most of the soldiers learn something. Plain foot soldiers seem to be less much.
Doctor Chaotic I’m fine with guns, I go to the shooting range sometimes, and I’m a democrat so... maybe that’s a you problem
Oh,so that's why the author writing one of my favorite manhwas suddenly disappeared.
@@Iwillnotapologizeforsupporting Dungeon Master.
SIU started tog after millitary training. Made him GOAT.
You won't read his manhwas for at least 2 years. By the time he comes back, you would've moved to another author, unless you're a true fan
@@blerst7066 well,I can wait.I bookmarked just in case:)
@@sopmodtew8399 yea I heard he actually did go to the military. I rlly do miss that manhwa :(
I AM NOW WORRIED FOR MY BOYZ
istg this is gonna be hard for them, really hard but hopefully they'll get through this
they are bulletproof and we are their armies we will have to support them throughout this journey
good luck bangtan :) see you guys in 2025
Sameeeeeeeee 😟
Same here
I don't want to image them there 😔
Same I really am especially the gas mask thing
They will be fine. Their brothers serviced before them.
Everyone I've met who served in Korean military seemed to have received excellent fitness and martial arts/hand to hand combat training. I would love to hear more about that. I think I recall one friend told me that his secondary school also provided excellent classes in those areas as well. My friend's skills were nothing fancy, just very effective leverage, pressure point and short power strikes that he would demonstrate in ways that made guys twice his size just laugh and shake their heads in disbelief as he outclassed them.
They dont do hand to hand combat. Infact we are instructed to avoid it. The most they would teach is knife/bayonet combat. Most of the martial arts is personally trained outside of the army, every Korean has at some point tried taekwondo or hapkido. Its just tradition not army.
@@user-lk5lr6vu3j that was sad tbh.. I can't explain why.
South Korean Military: if you can't make it work, make it work.
JoJo fans: it just works.
IS THAT A JOJO'S REFERENCE
Yes
ZA WARUDO
There is not a thing "can't make it work" because it will always work. "You must make it work!"
AYAYAYAYAYAYA
imagine BTS in a tank fighting kim
oml
And screaming "CAN'T HOLD ME DOWN CAUSE YOU KNOW I'M A FIGHTER" like bruh 😭😭😭
That'll be cool to watch
..... And starts singing "Fire"!!!
And one of them, will never make it back 😢😢😢
trying my best to understand this as Jin entered into military yesterday. i pray that he can adapt quickly with the training and always at his best condition of health. i miss him already!🥲
so cringe
As a korean that discharged from military last year, Dont worry hes the oldest when other privates are all 19 year olds. He gets special treatment like all idols do. He will be fine.
He’s been made a Sargent and his almost done now. I trust he was treated with respect and wasn’t pushed around. Hoping the same for the others
i am just here to see what bts has to go through. NAURRRRRR
me too OMG
I hope the instructors will take care of them
Who's here after the announcement of Sara Duterte about the possible mandatory military service in the Philippines? 👇
Me🙋♂️
Me
Next episode "What's it like to serve in North Korea's mandatory service."
I'm dead
One word: hell
Underrated comment.
You'll enter there at the age of 18,when you got out, you'll be 80
@@Choca_ everyone is born s soldier and die a soldier serving as slaves there... the is only one fat person in the entire country
The fact that this is being recommended for me today is worrying
we already have plenty of people to deal with that
Dw no world wars. Yet
I hope BTS will be safe.
They should be, I don't think they'll get live ammo unless it's for a target range and there's like a dozen staff watching you in those so no one gets shot. They'll probably just be shoved into the Korean military band for their job instead of a combat role. Like why would the SK military pass up that opportunity for its band lol.
@@twohooks3533 Yeah, I agree. I feel like South Korean celebs getting drafted into military service will usually be given administrative jobs, i.e. desk jobs, since them dying would be a big no-no.
@@theobuniel9643 That could be it but since militaries have choirs and bands the obvious thing would be to compel them to be singers for whatever war music the South Korean military has. Even if BTS wanted combat roles for some strange reason the military might deny them anything that isn't musician related.
Here after Sara Duterte made her announcement for mandotory military services in the Philippines for ages 18, male and female. 😭
💀
Bat malungkot?
Why sad?
@@kriegsvogel1577 who wouldnt be sad to have their future taken away from them? Hinde po lahat nang kabataan busy mag tik-tok 2x lang, some of us are answering tons of worksheets because we actually care for our future and to have that taken away from us after all the hard work that we did?? Of course magagalit ka at yung iba malulungkot.
@@kylee.jenner3610 your so gay
Having served in the Korean Army for 2 years as well, I can not say military life was fun for me. Like Gene says in the video, the "forcefullness" makes you miserable in the Army. One time I got bullied because I didn't wring the floor-cloth properly. They fucking had certain way to wring the god damn floor-cloth !! (걸레 짜기...) WTF??
2 years eventually passed, I was grateful that I served the Army. There were some important life lessons that I had learned such as appreciating family/friends, tolerance, patience, etc.
But would yo go back to do 2 years more?
NO WAY!!!
Brian1ee 제 맞후임이 미국에서 살다 한국 군대 왔던 나이 많은 형이었는데 적응 못해서 너무 힘들어했었습니다. 한국 살던 사람도 거지같은 한국군대문화 짜증났는데 외국 살다 온 사람은 얼마나 힘들었을지 문득 생각나네요
After this two years , in your civilian life, do you need to return for revision training?
As I stated previously, the military is an authorized violence group in the country. One out of 100 Koreans is in the military. In a group of 600,000 people, as I agree with you, various & many incidents and accidents could occur. However, the frequency is very low compared to the general society. Now days, a mental desertion or a single sexual misconduct becomes a social issue via all sorts of social media. If the same thing happens in society, it would be buried in the sand.
What you described in this reply, I believe, not all abuses you may experience in the military because ROK military has a well constructed report & appeal system. It doesn’t imply we shouldn’t improve the military abuse prevention system. But even the USFK, which is a developed country, has a higher crime rate than ROK military’. If that so, it's not grateful to downgrade and denigrate the military whose royalty to the nation and their honor of protecting the people.
Thus, I would like to recall one phrase of the scripts from the “Descendent of the Sun”.
“A military uniform is a shroud. When we die for our nation in the nameless front-lines, those sites become our graves and our uniforms turns out our shrouds. We should wear the military uniforms with that determination. Once we do, be honorable at every moment. There is no reason why we shouldn’t be.”
WesleyEngDOTcom sounds like someone wants to be conscripted
Brian1ee I
I was stationed in Korea in the 80's Camp Hovey 1st 38th Infantry, we trained with the Korean Army, they are well trained, tough soldiers, I have utmost respect for the ROK Army.
Hua ,
a former Katusa served in a CAV battalion in area 1
Thank you for your service
My husband is going to join military within few months. After watching this video,now I'm really worried for him.Almighty please protect my husband so he can make his things work!
Bangtan will be fine they're all strong and tough guys you know
@@nia437 💜🙏🏻
Bangtannies hwaiting!!!
*sees people going in a gas room*
Me: hold up...
*Erika starts playing*
Communist In Action Und dast ves，erika！LOL
I don’t know how to spell German
Erika is kind of a love song lol why do people refer it to a german war song 🤣🤣
@@josephramirez3046 it was a march song during ww2.
A March song about a beautiful girl named Erika 🙄
Not a war song lol
His English is really excellent for a Korean
He’s humble and generous
And really handsome
Thành Hồ he has a little dick tho
Brown people always so jealous of East Asian success & superiority in all aspects throughout history and still to this day. Maybe you guys are always the first & quickest to criticize East Asians because of the Mughal (i.e., "Mongol" Dynasty) of India which was founded by Mongoloids? The Taj Mahal that so many Indians are so proud of was actually built by the Mongol Mughals. And now China has been a superpower for at least a decade; China is already the second largest economy in the world while India's economy is not even as big as France's lmao! However, India is second place in the world when it comes to highest murder rate. China builds the world's first quantum communications satellite while India is still 3rd world.
handsom..?
Racist
Thành Hồ you just described Namjoon (RM)
i hope that FlyingTuna is going to be fine
SEE YOU NEXT TIME
WHAT A LEGEND
That's is literally true , there was a professional eSports player (won many times) this year told us that he is moving on and will not be able to play for his team coz he was joining military
Be yelled constantly and don't have a voice sounds like my childhood
Never want to go back
Robert Gomez Same
Relatable
hear hear, bro
Me rn
2:01 sounds a lot like living with my ex, Grilfriend
Damn. The longer i listened the more accurate it became.
😂😂😂
Lol nice
Harsh but accurate.
Hahahaha!
Jin has left for military training 😭
Sungjin Oppa Please stay there and healthy. We will waiting for your return.
I love how they gave this Asian dude subtitles even though he is speaking fluent English 😂
For deaf i think.
King Slushie101 Not all people can hear.
It’s for the deaf
There’s people who is learning English and is trying to improve their listening and understanding, that’s why they put subtitles. You don’t need to think THAT much to understand the reason.
Ayyy thats the real racism out there
Singapore also has mandatory military service for male citizens.
If you have this sort of program in the US the people would go nuts about rights I reckon.
The US does have a similar sort of program. Its called Selective Service (aka the Draft). All male citizens have to sign up at 18. The US military gets its soldiers from volunteers right now, but if the US were ever to go to war, it can activate the Selective Service and it forces men to join the military. The last time this was done was in the Vietnam war and it did cause a lot of people to go nuts. Men refused to sign up and got thrown in prison.
There was a big controversy last year over whether women should be forced to sign up for Selective Service too, but it didn't happen. Women can volunteer, but can't be forced in a time of war.
chaosXpert What a shame for the equal rights movement, women should have the rights to be part of the selective service. LMAO
Jonathan Williams "Was"? The draft is still around, it's just not being implemented right now. When WWIII starts, it will once again be bad luck to be in the military.
huguan86 bro we just bribe your prime minister or president to order your troops to suicide
Siew Qing Wang the US DID have this but because our numbers are so large we have no reason for a draft
Although we have selective services meaning all men have to sign up for the draft with they turn 16 or 18 I forget
I hope jins going to be okay
It looks very exciting and fun!I don't know why CZcams recommends this but thanks it looks good
Gene Kim: I can handle the gas filled room
European Minorities: First time?
Lol you made my day
FreeBird0964
I like my walls stained blue...
damn that’s dark
I can’t believe they all have to go through all this because of North Korea
Ummm....northkorea is one of part. Historically korea have to prepare power, against china and japan
Yea. South Korea is a small country in mass and population compared the surrounding countries....South Korea just wants to have peace and to not be invaded again.
it's called the right to bear arms my guy
@@MatalinoMusicWorks Dude.
@@femmemachete im not ur dude bro
Awesome post
I'm watching this to have an idea to military service after Chanyeol entered military 😅
I watched this when kyungsoo enlist, and watching again because of other members in the military 🤧
@@dianagamaboa4412and there's baekhyun who will enlist exactly on his birthday :((
Haha.
Can you enlighten me why can't they use mobiles and post moments on social media, I was expecting some update from chanyeol but, here im
As a K-Pop fan myself I find it very embarrassing to have people whining cause some of their favorite idols have to enlist.
Peter Quill I see no comments like that.
Yep that's good.
I mean they are gonna have to do it at some point
And it won’t be now
Probably after their career
Your fandom sucks
Exactly. Just cos idols are famous doesnt mean they should get to avoid service. My ult is shinee and Jinki, Kibum and Minho are all serving right now but they're just following the law of their country so i dont understand the people that go on about how its unfair. If anything it would be unfair if idols were exempt.
When I went through the gas chamber they told us not to touch our junk when we got out. I had to pee so bad that I ran to the tree line and did exactly that. The drill sergeants pointed at me while I was rolling on the ground screaming and said “see privates, this is what happens when you’re a dumbass”. It was a pretty good time. I seriously miss it. Wish I could go back in time.
Yeah that sounds really fun
Hahaha.
No offence but if you enjoyed that there is something wrong with you.
@@EgeCagan95 He was probably being sarcastic lol
@@reginageorge6283 yeah, most likely lol.
Need to watch this for spoilers or for my preparation for my upcoming mandatory military service in philippines
Keep Safe Jin. Army loves you
Hey fellow army don’t worry he will be safe South Korea will keep him safe cuz South Korea don’t want to lose a lot of money
He’s almost done his term now. I hope nobody got on his case while he was there. Same with the other BTS guys there now. Hopefully they know the international outrage and exposure wouldn’t be insane if a BTS member mentioned terrible things that happened to them during their service
I served in Korea in 1968. Sometimes called the second Korean War and I can tell you that the North has indeed numerous times invaded the South. These were relatively small incursions but we had to be constantly on alert. Walter Bonnesteel was the commander of UN forces in Korea and made sure that Korean troops were responsible for Korea's defense. I give him a lot of credit for giving Korean troops the confidence to do the job. ROK troops were among the best fighting men I ever encountered anywhere. Read about the Tiger Division in Vietnam. You have a lot to be proud of.
Thank you for your service💪
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@@user-zi3sv5bv4l lol you are all being appreciated and stuff but your profile name is just lol
You are old as shit 😭
Thank you for your service.
There was something I felt after I served military in Korea. It does not admit my hardship to anyone. And I wasted my youth two years. After the
discharge, I had nothing left but physical and mental dormancy and a
reserve force training notice.
How was your reserve training like?
At least you saved your country and your not born in North Korea or it would be 10 years in worse conditions. North wants to take over South Korea to strip it off all freedoms under Kim Jong Un.
You were part of the protection against those that want to destroy the peace on the peninsula.
Bubble-Nut Chewing-Gum Bruh you are actually telling that to a South Korean. He will know more than you about their past though haha...
@@SuccessforLifester They pay 7 dollars a day. Which is lower than the transportation fare to get there.
@@user-ti6zs3ux1c I see. Their civilian jobs still need to pay them income even when they went on reserve training ?
Me scrolling in the comments section looking for Armys. Let’s support our boys no matter what.
me💜🤧 let's support them in everything they decide.. we'll wait for them..
Jin is almost back at least. Soon the healing can start 💜
Good luck jinnie I'll pray I luv yoh
My grandpa fought for South Korea in the Korean War, he passed away almost two weeks ago from his third bout with cancer. He had a rough last couple years, it was sad to see him go out like this, he liked to take trips fishing. RIP Grandpa. 1932-2017
thegreatcalvinio As one of ordinary South Korean youngman & reserve forces in ROK (Republic Of Korea) army,
Please accept my condloences.
And Thanks for your grandfather's great every effort to get freedom back to Korea.
Although I'm not in Korea war generation, but I know how was great sacrifices by my grandparents, education and experiences in military.
Dear your grand father. maybe you were in Korea, some time 1950 - 1953.
Yesterday, 6th June, was Memorial day In Korea. Please know that you are in koreans thoughts and prayers. Thank you sir.
- One in twenty Korean
Hey I'm not Korean (American), but your Grandpa fought in the most pivotal war in the history of your country where losing would sentence you guys to hundreds of years of slavery, he fought for your freedom. And he will be honored for that
"There is good in this world, and it's worth fighting for" - JRR Tolkien
My condolences. The US is grateful for your grandpa's service
RBX2 i wish that to be true, but ur american vets, many are homeless/jobless or outcast by society. Its a shame rlly.
that's the problem, when you force something instead of persuade, people will naturally rebel.
Joel Schembri So when North Koreans attack who is going to protect South Korea? Keyboard warriors?
Volunteer soldiers, like any other civilized nation has?
ok let's say the number of volunteer soldiers is not enough... who's gonna come help them? are they gonna wait for the others to come to their rescue ?
mikhail hilliard here's the thing they know in the back of their minds they need to as its part of their duty.
"who's gonna come help them? are they gonna wait for the others to come to their rescue ?"
Let's also be aware that it is 2017 and humans are much better are intelligence gathering than actually defending or attacking a mass of people.
I am really 😟 worried about our bantan boy's but they will give their best 👍🏻 we will wait for all to come back safely 🙂💕
Watching this cause our country(Philippines) might approve this
Getting hollered at on day 1? Being known as a recruit instead of a Private? Forced into a gas chamber? Told to do everything with speed and intensity?
Korean military or United States Marine Corps? Oohrah
Carlos Mejia damn
Considering the close ties between the two countries I assume a lot of the South Korean military structure is based on the US
Carlos Mejia getting raised by korean parents is like being in basic training your entire childhood.
but when your forced to join the military without any will or loyalty the soldiers will still break even with such intensive training
Carlos Mejia The Navy does the same thing.
And people wonder why south koreans are so good at esports. They all have the discipline and will.
Mojack actually, professional gamers, celebrities, etc delay their service time so they can focus on their career while it lasts.. since it’s hard to succeed as progamer or celebrity as you get older. You can postpone your service until the age of 30 if you have valid reasons, but you must go before 30.
Korea is good in esports because of fast internet. Also traditionally pc online games were popular compared to console games.
Stfu
@@wondo94 not the koreans only, all asians are like this. I have some competition experience against asian players from japan and china. They are biologicly better at this, like black people better at running, they are better in esports and everything that recuirse good and fast brain work. They learn faster to do things better than everyone else, they have a strong teamplay and discipline in thier blood, they work as a whole thing. Even if the players in the team are not skilled enough, they are frcking hard to defeat. That's pretty much everything why asians are good at videogames. Meh, they are better at everything, i guess, except physical strength.
@@txcubepope8768 thats why we make robots to do our work
@@georgeye9622 we got a angry legume of legend player here
I'm really worried for kim seokjin 😭🥺
I think people could get a lot from a revised mandatory service from ages 16/18 to 20. It would be different in that it’s like the national guard but with life skills training and productive discipline training. It would be a side thing that comes along with schooling, and with free/mandatory education, we could produce a fine tuned and mentally healthy next generation of individuals that will expand society further than general, current people.
It doesn't change people. I did 2 years of mandatory conscription, and the people who came in with bad attitudes remained that way throughout and after, and the people who had a good positive attitude also stayed that way. Character doesn't change.
Korean men also have to stay in shape for military until they're 30. Even after they finish their 2 years of mandatory service, Korean men have to go to regular physical training days.
Dictatorship basically. If they are like this, why not just let North Koreea invade? You just switch the leaders.
Why not just let North Korea invade ?
Bro , you have no idea how things go in North Korea
For starters , the amount of food you consume is controlled by the government ( that’s right , you are not allowed to eat more than a specific amount of food as North Korea economy is running low for years now )
Then there’s NO entertainment at all ! That’s right , no Hollywood , no music , no dramas , no internet , the only shows available are North Korean shows which teach military propaganda
The clothes you can buy is limited too
Even hairstyles are limited , there are only around 6 hair styles which men and women can have , if anyone has a different hairstyle, they are arrested
Also , if by any chance you get caught doing something even slightly illegal , you are sent to labour camps ( even children are sent there ) where you have to do hard core labour for months with around 2 bowls of rice a day
This is only the tip of the ice berg my friend , watch some educational videos on CZcams to know how bad things are on that side of the border
@@shukrantpatil It's not that bad compared to South Koreean military service. I mean, it's as if I would ask you what you prefer between being slapped 5 times vs. having your head shaved.
What you described over there is not different from what my parents lived for 30 years when my country was communist. I have acces to internet and I don't need Hollywood, or your stupid dramas, or eating continuosly until I get obese or get cancer, I prefer not to be shot at on the streets as you might be in the USA or school being about who has the richest parents. You can stay in your country with your heroin epidemic, with crazy, iliterate morons attacking you in trafic or killing your family members because they drive while reading facebook posts.
After all, each country has its own poisons, none is perfect.
@@popcornsniper then go to NK
@@popcornsniper north Korean military service is probably more hardcore lol, you know what North Korea is right
Just finished my year tour at Kunsan AB. Worked with a lot of ROKAF members. Lemme tell you..they definitely have it rough for those two years. It was really fun talking to them though and hearing their thoughts. Mad respect for their culture and current society.
It’s just so depressing to think that they’re forced to give up 2 years of their youth for this isolation. I think a lot of international people clued in on this with recent idols being snatched up there too
As a korean male citizen, i just have no idea why my folks are just putting up with this nonsense unfairness. we're just born to be slaves
Army are we all here...
Thats called CS gas, bro. They did it the same for us, too. Burning a couple tablets on hotplates.
My fire team partner was so excited to take his stuffy gas mask off that he instinctively took a deep breath when the gas was filling up the room. It was pretty hilarious, actually.
Nik Murphy i leave for basic pretty soon and im excited for the gas chamber😂 i know im gonna hate it and it will suck but im still excited
I'm an instructor for that type of stuff exactly in my country's army! It's always a great experience :)
@@devinjohnson4480 Yeah it's actually fun. Putting on the full rig in a hurry, doing some exercises in the room.
And if you're lucky like me, you'll get to do it in 40 degree, humid weather!
Nik Murphy lol i feel like that was a lot of sarcasm😂 but i leave aug 6th so it will be very hot :(
@@devinjohnson4480 The weather part was definitely sarcasm, but trust me you will develop a sarcastic sense of humour yourself after they put you through basic.
Basically my time during basic in the US Army. Only reason why this guy complains that it sucks all the time is because there’s no will or motivation to be in the military. Drafts and mandatory service does make the military a living hell and you don’t get the full experience as a volunteer.
You guys also get paid better.
for most of us:
Well if you're gonna force me to do this shit, at least pay me in comparison as a minimum wage ass job.
Also soldiers are at the bottom of the barrel of society in Confucian culture lol... they don't provide anything economically. Just consume resources, or sometimes take over the government.
That's why conscription militaries suck. Volunteer militaries are much better.
Conscription military doesn't really suck so much in my country. A volunteer based military just wouldn't be sufficient to counter our threat so it's not even an option.
This sounds like basic training in the US too. I remember my ex telling me about his basic and how the gas room was unbelievably hard. I can’t imagine what that would be like if you didn’t choose to be there. That’s really tough.
My dad served the Korean military as one of the instructors. He is now a reserve personnel
What, no women forced to join the military ?
no, korean socially leave all the labour work to men
+Aquatic Scrotum, if I remember too, if a women wants to join the military she has to go in as an Officer. In fact Korean Army will salute all females in the US and other foreign armies regardless of rank.
Kartkid- Is there a reason?
Michael Wargo Im not sure actually. Never looked it up. Korea doesnt exactly have all the equal rights opinions that the US has.
It's called convention. Some have already challeged the military law for violating the Constitution which says 1) every PERSON has a duty to guard our borders 2) military duty MUST NOT be a disadvantage for the bearer... but the verdict was girls at the army? pfff nah shut up. The contradiction is deep and also involves alternative services for those with health issues (of course men only.)
Bonus fact: once, the men who finished serving the military were given a small-but-influential advantage when they applied for civil service jobs. Then "feminists" got the media and now(don't remember since when) absolutely nothing. 2 of your best years robbed, significant risk of injuries trauma etc which often falls on yourself.
this is why there so fucking good at esports
Lolrunner Cuz we know one day NK's gonna nuke us and we would never get to play games again.
Lolrunner LOL
Lolrunner not there
they're
Lolrunner wrong form of there. In Your case say their.
*esports* I assume your first language is Spanish 😆😂😂😂
This got recommended to me haha 💀 but anyways im so genuinely salute my respect towards these veterans who may risked their life for the sake of their country
So proud of Kim Minseok and Do Kyung Soo who already finished serving.
Kim Jun Myeon, Kim Jongdae, Park Chanyeol who are currently serving.
And Byun Baekhyun to serve on May 6, actually his birth day.