Ken Duncan: Keeping The Artform Alive Part 1

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024

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  • @jdcman8949
    @jdcman8949 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I'm sorry to break it to you, but it was only a fan Wiki speculation of Ken Duncan doing Don Bluth characters like Anne-Marie and Goldie. Those characters, if you've probably learned about John Pomeroy's marriage with their ACTUAL directing animator, were animated by a woman named Lorna Cook who's also known as Lorna Pomeroy-Cook. You see, just like a lot of other Don Bluth animators (including Duncan), Lorna would inevitably be hired by Disney. She has worked on 1991's 'Beauty and the Beast' as one of the 'Belle' animators and 1994's 'The Lion King' as one of the animators for 'Adult Simba', and would later join DreamWorks Animation as a story artist.
    It's sometimes easy to identify an animator's work by their characters' movement but, judging by the obvious mix of bouncy and realistic movement in Ken Duncan's human characters, you may be able to realize that, during his former years at Sullivan Bluth Studios, Duncan actually used to be a supervising animator (or directing animator, as it was normally called in those days), of more quirky, cartoonish characters like Killer for 'All Dogs Go to Heaven' and Snipes/Hunch for 'Rock-A-Doodle', and the way he animated Scroop in 'Treasure Planet' could give you a bit of a hint. Also, allow me to politely point out a few more errors on your video, although all your other videos are thoroughly researched.
    For one of your resources, you've used the Ken Duncan page from The Movies Wiki which, of course had initially had listed the female Don Bluth characters that were assumed to have been animated by him, yet Ken wasn't even up to the challenge of animating a human character yet, at least not at that time. Believe it or not, I actually managed to edit the Ken Duncan page on The Movies Wiki by changing those “assumed” characters to the “actual” characters that Ken animated. Also, another resource that you've put in the description of this video is a page of Mark Pudeliner's blog that breaks down an animation drawing of Anne-Marie, clearly done by John Pomeroy yet, like I said, Ken wasn't ready for such a task at the time. Could you please replace that with a Facebook picture of one of the 'Rock-A-Doodle' character sheets (Snipes, in this case) since it has a comment that confirms that Ken Duncan drew the walk cycle? I'll post you a link.
    facebook.com/photo?fbid=1394184633983165&set=pcb.1394184830649812
    So, I thought I would politely correct you on which characters Ken actually animated for Sullivan Bluth Studios. While it is cool that you've paired clip from 'The Land Before Time' along with audio of what Duncan actually animated for that scene, I personally feel that you might want to do rework of this Dizograpy on Ken Duncan. Feel free to do the fact re-edits of what Ken Duncan has done for Sullivan Bluth while keeping a few of your voice takes of your initial script and audio of those Ken Duncan podcasts. I'd appreciate it.

    • @Dizographies
      @Dizographies  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thank you for this info!!!
      I see what I did. He says in his interviews that he worked there during that time, but he doesn't specifically say what he worked on ever. Probably because the way the studio worked was more working on sequences than individual characters. So I just filled in the blanks. So sorry about that, of course, I'll replace the links and anything else you think could help. Thank you so much for the polite corrections. I honestly really appreciate it!
      It is interesting, that he does say he was a supervisor on All Dogs Go to Heaven, so he must have done some scenes, I wonder which ones? Do you know? And then he worked on Rock-a-Doodle in LA with 6 other guys. Would he have been a supervisor there? or just an animator?

    • @jdcman8949
      @jdcman8949 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Okay, according to my knowledge on the differences between how Disney animators handle things and how Sullivan Bluth animators handle things, Disney usually casts animators for particular characters depending on either their design, personality or movement while I've only recently learned that the animators at Sullivan Bluth Studios particular sequences, even though I honestly find it somewhat confusing since I'd like it better when the lead animators handle most of the animation for their assigned characters. I can easily identify John Pomeroy's work thanks to a handful of his posts on his official Instagram account.
      So, in case you were wondering how else I identified Ken's work on his Bluth projects, I believe, for 'All Dogs Go to Heaven', he animated at least few shots with Killer when he when he was being raised after Carface hears him say that he got a gun, specifically where he says, "I got a- I got a... A Flash Gordon thermo-atomic ray gun, boss". For 'Rock-A-Doodle', one of Bluth's weaker movies, one sequence where I can identify as Ken Duncan's work is where the Grand Duke of Owls angrily blowing on his nephew Hunch as he yells "DUUCK!!" and Hunch tells him he wish he wouldn't do that, yet there's also the shot where Hunch excitedly tells his uncle that he saw Patou floating in the toybox down the river with Edmond (in kitten form).
      Now, I honestly have to say that, for someone who was credited as 'directing animator', Ken was probably just an animator for the most part, although he was already a pretty established one at that. So, I'd like to thank you for pinning my correction comment, and I'd still appreciate it if you'd make a more 'animator-identification' correct re-edit of your Ken Duncan part 1 video when you get the chance. 👌

  • @ONEPEAKFRFR
    @ONEPEAKFRFR Před 4 měsíci +6

    Disney is both the best and worst thing to happen to animation. I wished those in charge actually cared about the art they helped produce and the people behind them. I have a lot of respect for all those who animate, directed, sing, write, and voice all the movies and TV shows.

  • @SketchyD00dleSketch
    @SketchyD00dleSketch Před 3 měsíci

    A Ken Muse episode would be nice!

  • @ONEPEAKFRFR
    @ONEPEAKFRFR Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love learning about artists ♥️❤️

  • @moysesp.6372
    @moysesp.6372 Před 4 měsíci

    Great episode ❤