🏆 The ULTIMATE Legendary Tier List (Spark of Rebellion) - Star Wars Unlimited Tier List
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Which are the best and worst legendary cards in Star Wars Unlimited's Spark of Rebellion? What do you all think? Let us know in the comments! - Hry
Glad to see Jay hasn’t forsaken his love of Mace Windu. Watching him try to make him work in Destiny was a real highlight.
Liking the content guys! Coming over from Competitive magic and loving the game so far!
Welcome, and thanks for watching!! 🙏
Can’t wait to get my Luke’s on a game board! 🙌🏻
Hell yeah!!
When you completely abandon Space and your opponent spits out 3 Space units in a turn:
"they fly now?"
"they fly now!"
They need to make a flying stormtrooper unit you can play in space 😂
@@rawkyle9385 I was thinking a Red Neutral event "They Fly Now?" 3 cost, play a non-unique ground unit in the Space Arena reducing its cost by 3.
@@GlobalPokemonSocietyI like it!!
This is what I’m happy that some of the FFG staff lurk in this channel. This idea has legs guys.
Played a ton at Dice Tower West last weekend. So much fun!
Seems like a solid list, excited to get more games in and get a feel for it. I actually think Black One could age well since that type of effect can be a ridiculous refill in an aggro top end in other games, but the stats are really pitiful and it potentially dying the turn you play it is awkward.
Thank you for your tier list, I love them! Personally I see devastator alittle differently, and I think it’s the best capital ship so far. Being in green it has ramp in aspect and should come out before turn 9. Having sentiel is huge. Being able to play this, blow up your opponents biggest ground thing and then protecting an entire arena with sentiel is huge. Overwhelm is nice for offensive options.
With avenger you get less control and can still lose because they could sac a weak unit or can still be destroyed in Space. Rentless doesn’t have much of an impact when you play it unless you are already ahead, so more of a win secure card. There have been games where dropping a devastor has won me a game down 20 life.
Thank you again for the great content, looking forward to seeing more SWU content :D
Love the insights!!
Maybe there are just too many people playing against me with super fast decks but I feel like the random come from down 20 if you make it to turn 7/8 is the only applicable win for that ship. I actually love that it exists for late games I’m just not making it to any late games hahaha
i love black one and it has a lot of potential. The potential for draw 6 in a red aggro deck to refill is huge. Plus even someone saying its a B in Han, even in one deck a B that isn't an unplayable card. I feel like this will find homes in more decks then half of these after a little time.
Yeah totally Agree.
I personally feel like Vigilance and Avenger should be top of the A tier honestly. The Krennic and Iden Versio Decks seem to be very strong with these cards.
Now I wanna see the art tier list for legendary cards.
Yessssss this would be fun!
@@LiterallyUnplayable Art tier for Leaders sees Han Solo at Z.
Han and chewie are the 2 that im like.....what in the heck? The leader ones of course. The others are fine
@@kyledeckman9128i disagree. I think they are the best art for the leaders. I personally like cartoon style, it feels fresh and more suitable to the card game environment
@@NicolaGareri well more power to ya. This game is great fun. Art is secondary for me anyways.
I need this but for the rares now HAHAHAHAHAH good video guys!
Definitely need another thoughtful tier list for those of us who will only be choosing between the 3- 5 total legendaries we ended up with. A rares one would be cool or just a random one like top hero upgrades etc. clearly tier lists are the content people are here for! Even more people than subscribe haha
totally true, i end up with a few L and R but none of the tier S or A hahaha but well, i'm having fun anyway :P@@FrankNicodem
Dont sleep on Hera double green with ECL for Command. This card is doing everything Hera wants to be doing on any given turn. I do agree that the resource should come in ready and the damage should not be limited to non-unique but this is a resupply and a True Strike in a cost effective package.
I agree that Han is both the most underrated and complicated leader to play. But he's good when you figure him out.
Looking at all the controls in Yellow, it really feels like they undercosted bounce and exhaust effects, especially since most of them have no target limit. A "No Good to Me Dead" on a Leader or big unit is brutal. In fact, Yellow singlehandedly makes playing 7+ costed units very risky since it is quite easy for the opponent to control the unit. You really need to be able to drop it when they are tapped out and then take the initiative.
For sure, yellow tempo options are very powerful!
I think all the Double aspect Legendary cards will end up being S tier in a few sets when double aspect decks are actually viable and they will be stables.
Def possible! They have a ton of potential!
I love Vigilance in my control Chewbacca deck😊 Healing 5 from a Base and a potential defeat of a unit is extremely helpful to get in the late game.
I've been thinking double blue Chewie might have legs. Just sucks that Power of the Dark Side is (shocker) a villainy card. Same with Superlaser Blast.
I would love to see this for all cards in the game. Probably not all at once. But you could probably do a super quick round to filter out uninteresting cards.
Like, say the card, five seconds to vote. If everyone votes C or below it’s out. If anyone votes B+ it’s in. Then you take all those in another video.
Or each of the four bring their top 5 cards (can cheat and chat prior to remove dupes) and do a total group tier list to see overlap opinion
Mono aggression IG is fun to play. Def will be meta once we get more units that kill a unit on play. It is kinda like the curb stomp deck atm
Watching this a month after it came out is wild
At the UK SWU launch event a blue/red Iden deck came top 8, just bombing the board over and over and then healing (3 Superlaser Blasts!?)
From a veteran magic the gathering player with 27 years of tcg experience: You all are undervaluing Black One. Low curve, dump your hand, now you are discarding zero to draw 3, then ADDITIONALLY and totally free you get to dump your hand trade Black One and get 3 more free cards. In a game where all cards are lands free cards are king and Black One might be the best legendary once people figure out how to play.
Hard agree, I think the only thing holding black one back is that it isn’t considered a rebel trait, but the next set having resistance fighters will more than likely add support to black one
Possibly, but this game is very different from magic
Notably the way card advantage works doesn’t feel 1 for 1 like in magic. Card draw is a lot less potent here due to a number of factors. Perhaps in the future there will be more red hero decks that want Black One but for now it feels like Han stands alone
We're just missing the upcoming S-Tier Poe Dameron fearless leader.
Facts yes sir
Nice fun list! We mostly agree, but there were three cards that we kind of disagreed on.
Millenium Falcon is worthy of an S as a card, as it can act as reach and removal, but both having to tie up a resource to it to keep it in play, and the fact that the yellow/white package at the moment is not very good would mean that the Falcon is just not as playable as we would like it to be, and I rated it as a B as such.
Vigilance for me is unplayable. Its effects have low impact on the game and it doesn't make you want to play double blue for it, and especially not 6 off-aspect. When FFG releases 3 more good cards for milling, then maybe yes.
Finally, Superlaser Blast is a D for me. You're using all your resources to play it, you need to be going second, wait for your opponent to use their resources, and you need the playfield to be disadvantageous to you. It's very expensive, very situational. It's a great "break glass in case of emergency" card, but it's far from meta-defining.
Loved the video, it creates conversations. Keep up the good work!
Are any of those double aspect cards viable playing in a non mono deck. For 6 resources?
They very well might be!
Keep it up! Vader is out there!
Taking notes, thanks! Got a foil hyperspace legendary, do you know how much it costs?
Depends on which one, but those are pretty damn rare!!!
@@LiterallyUnplayable Devastator
Vigilance - Blue Hera, Spectre Mill is solid
That sounds wild!
Why are only three of you wearing hats indoors?
😂
If you count Mike's giant headphones as a hat, we'll reach the 100% goal we set out when we made this channel.
Mace is going insane in my Blue/Red Luke deck right now. Definitely S tier from my experience.
Love it!
But is your Blue-Red Luke deck going insane right now? I've found it fun, but not on the same level as the top meta decks. Just too slow.
Well I’ll have to do some more testing, but lately it’s been doing really good. It’s only huge defeat so far was a Vader deck that I went against this weekend ( I didn’t draw any of my Windus)
I just pulled the Devastator. Don't care if it's one of the weaker ones, it was one of my main wishlist because I really love the artwork
The artwork is great, and it’s still a sick card!
"You'd think red would be bad and green would be good" the deathstars laser has always been green
Can anyone tell me, is there a hand size in this game? I haven't found a direct answer for this yet, sorry for the question.
There is no maximum hand size
I love the Darth Vader card. Not only because it's useful but the artwork is badass
It’s so sick!
Aggression doesn’t remove shields as they’re considered tokens, not upgrades.just thought I’d clarify that for you. It may make it drop a tad on the chart.
Shields and experience tokens are in fact upgrades as well, if you look at the token cards they say upgrade at the top and it’s also clarified in the rules 😄
What?! A buddy of mine said he looked it up and told me that they weren’t upgrades… I think he pulled a fast one on me… I ended changing my deck because if that lol
I saw someone play han /w that falcon….he just destroyed shit. I’m still figuring stuff out but I’d put the falcon right after Vader. Cards insane.
Was hoping Jim would tell the story of how a 9 year old cheated and beat me at my pre-release with S++ tier Vader ;)
I think he talked about it on the last podcast episode 😅
Hi, Guys!
I've wanted to finish the video before this comment, but I cant help myself. Today I've spent about 40-60 minuites to break down the internal math of the game and something made me think that you would be intrested in the finds.
Im not gonna walk you trought the full process since its pretty boring to read about and most of it is just writng cards as equations and comparing cards to eachother back and forth, back and forth, back and borth.
Im gonna give you the value of each card in what Im gonna referr to as efficency points, EP. Every cost you pay to use the card increases its EP and every benefit it gives lowers it. Cards with a few exceptions always end with 0 EP, which means they are balanced. (Side note both the TIE figther and X-Wing cards have -EP, I guess thats a surprise for noone.)
EP you gain
Using the card = 5EP
Every resource it costs = 2EP
The game also has a "big guy buff", more expensive cards have bigger EP budget, than you'd expect. This is pretty common in card games, however it works in very unique way here: The buff happens at cost 5 and it gves the card +2EP, than this value both increases by 1 for each additional cost AND stacks with itslef. So a 5 cost card gets +2 for the 5th cost, while 6 cost card gets +2 for the 5th cost and +3 for the 6th to a total of +5 EP.
(In case you wonder how being "unique" adds up to this, it dosent.)
So EP "budget" = 5(card usage) + 2*resource cost + big guy buff(+2,+5,+9,etc.)
EP you loose
1 Health = 1EP
1 Power = 2EP
Shielded = 3EP
Sentinel = 3EP
Ambush = 3EP
Overwhelm = 3EP
Saboteur = 2EP
Drawing a card = 6EP
Destroying a unit = 17EP
Dealing 1 dmage = 2EP
(Raid and Grit are not quatifyable, since they are vectors and not constants. Raid1 on a 6 drop? Does nothig. Raid1 on a 2 drop? Dream come true. And Restore is hard to point down atm. Probably also a vector since Restore2 seems to be between 2-6EP depending on the card.)
Its also important to note, that there are certain abilities that cards can get for free in certan colors, like how the Wampa has Overwhelm or how Echo Base Defender has Sentinel.
And that abilties that destroy units with in a certain health range, like " destroy a unit with 4 health or less" are priced as dealing damage equal to the amount of maximum health +3EP. This mostly moddels as if you'd play a unit with Sabotuer and Ambush a Power equal to said Health cap who destroys itself after the attack.
And thats it for now. Most cards end up being at 0EP with a few +/- here and there. So, smell the powercreep filled future.
This is super interesting, thanks for sharing!!
8:48 Watching this 1 month after video posted. The Vigilance card is valued way higher at the moment.
Def is a great card in the current metagame 💯
Pulled a darth, Luke, boba and showcase emperor in a box. Super stoaked
That’s a sick box!!
@@LiterallyUnplayable uh yeah. I have no idea how that happened. My MTG luck has been poo tier lately. The star wars gods threw me a bone
I think you guys have to decide how you'll do the tier list, in this vid you guys kept going between how good a card is just based of its abilities to judging how good a card is based on the current decks, i believe they all shouldve been judged based solely how good the card is without any other meta cards or decks
I think Black One needs to be reevaluated.
For Leia Red. It doesn't really matter that it costs 6, or that it's a 4/4. Control pays 6 for Bounty Hunter Crew and *its* a 6 mana 4/4.
"Discard your hand" lolololol
I'm aggro, I don't have a hand by turn 5.
Draw. Three. Cards. There is no much removal, guys. Aggro doesn't need to draw another tapped K2, it needs actual card draw to find the For A Causes that kill the opponent.
It's not a rebel! Doesn't matter. It doesn't have sentinel. Doesn't matter.
Three fresh cards.
Just pulled a foil hyper millennium falcon yesterday! Came here to brag lol.
Btw doesn't devastator just win the game more often than not?
Let’s gooooo! Nice pull 🔥
As someone who adores Black One in the films I'm devastated it's a bit rubbish here. Hopefully justice will be done in a future Set
Putting home one so low is insane. That card is atleast b if not a imo. Played it a few times and it swung the game in my favor every time
Nice, glad it’s been working well for you!
Devestator is so S tear tbh; its the ruddy winner if you get it out lol, Ive yet to play a game where it didn't win entirely when it got out lol.. or better yet; I have yet to see it not stay in the game until the game conclusion once its does lol.
My buddy pulled that Vader card and a boba card
Sick pulls!!!!
@@LiterallyUnplayable I know I’m jealous, I got a booster box coming soon. I hope i pull some rare cards
Waiting for R list
When the tier list is for premiere (constructed?) format and DHaus uses twin suns and draft to justify his picks lol
Prefaces the video with "these are our premier rankings"... Immediately starts talking Twin Suns and draft. Classic! 😂
Ok 🤣 but in my defense, they all rejected my suggestion for premier rankings, so I went with whatever I wanted to talk about lol
@@DHaus-Unplayable we still love you ❤️ maybe not Jay, but the rest of us 😂
I feel weird, sometimes your future proofing other times not. Like Luke, if you play him game changing one of if not the best 7 drop in the game the fact that blue hero is meh holds him back. When blue hero isnt meh?
But vigilance double blue card no good double aspect blue decks right now...
Command is greater than Vigilance easily
37:35 😂
Pulled 2 lukes in my box...luke deck it is
Let’s go!!!
So we have 16 different legendaries, I can play up to 3 copies of a card. So for a full set I need 48 legendaries. ratio is 1:8 within the booster, 24 boosters in a display. So I need 16 displays for a complete ammount of legis?! or just go buying single cards? sounds worse than lorcana XD
Lorcana needs 4 of each legendary so I don’t think so haha. Not all decks play legendaries either so you don’t need a full playset unless you want one 🤷♂️
@@LiterallyUnplayable By lorcana you need around 9 displays to get the full amount of legendaries. you also need 48 legies for a full set, but you get ~5 out of each display. so for unlimited was my calculation wrong? and of course I want a complete set XD
Mace is tier B but Superlaser is Tier A! Cassian Andor is unplayable! Is Boba Fett good? Some of us aren't convinced! 🤣
On the first card i already disagree lol. The aggro decks of the game are the best by far so far. If we get a way to cheat this out sooner then it'll be good. But turn 8 the game is already over...again ramping it out by turn 4 is NEEDED cuz the game is over by turn 5 or 6.
It's the same idea with anything else big in the tier list. If it costs more than 5 or 6 it's almost never coming down
Where would the fun be if we all agreed on everything? 😅
@@LiterallyUnplayable no that's fair! I just want the game to get better removal. As someone who enjoys diversity in card games, aggro is so good it's hard to not play because it can just attack so fast and is hard to interact with.
Aggro is definitely strong in this game, I think especially due to the fact that you draw 2 cards each turn they don’t really gas out in the same way as in other games. That said tho it seems people have had some good success against aggro with a deck like iden
If mill decks become a thing, it's when I stop playing.
Why, you don't like losing?
@davidkringlen2479 winning by making the other person not able to even play the game they spent money on is the biggest douche move in any gaming.
To be fair they partially helped this by adjusting the mill rules to “speeding up the win” instead of other games where it’s an immediate win.