Her First Ride Back: Will he be SAFE for her?
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2024
- In this video professional horse trainer Ryan Rose, who specializes in colt starting and problem horses, works with a horse known for bucking going into canter. He helps her build confidence knowing she needs some horse training strategies with ground work and better rein positions.
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Yes I wood Ike more video training video on how thank to have control on ride ing on horse 🐎 Nanette
You are welcome
Use your reins for a start@@NaunetteMartin
thank you so much kathleen for letting us watch you and Ryan work with your horse-you did awesome
That horse was looking at Ryan thinking "please take me home with you".
The horse performs to the ability of the rider
Thank you Kathleen for putting yourself out here for all of us to learn from Ryan.😊 if it wasn’t for people such as you sharing your training sessions, Ryan wouldn’t have the opportunity to teach some major details that horse training entails. Thank you so much Kathleen and Ryan!
Time and patience
After the second video, I was wondering if/when Ryan would say he would like to buy this horse. Ha! He's a very nice-minded horse, and travels nicely, too. Ryan has really tuned into this horse and vice versa. They click. I've had one horse like this in my life (sensitive, but more whoa than go). That was his innate nature since I bought him as a weanling. He ended up being the horse you could jump on after a year of not being ridden, and he'd pick up right where he left off: confident, calm, and content. Such a pleasure to ride and be around...however, with the wrong rider or a nervous rider, he became anxious and unsure. The sensitive types truly need a calm and confident leader on their backs.
I would buy that horse in a heartbeat! Exactly the type of personality I like! He is very confident and sure of himself and wants to do good!
@@kimberlyhall7610 I don't think he is confident. Not yet, anyway. He has a good mind, but he is not confident nor sure of himself. He will be, with a good leader on his back. The owner seems committed to the process. I think she'll get the most out of him that she can. The troubled horses teach us so much.
I'm groundworking a mare (during lessons with my coach). She does everything she's told, no question asked, no matter if it's whoa or go. She is easily scared, but never go crazy: she just go a little faster, and slows down by herself a few meters away. In liberty, she follows you until you tell her to work.
But. You need to be PERFECTLY calm; she can't slow down if she percieves a little tenseness in your body language. She won't go crazy, and will respect your space, but she won't slow down.
My coach told me I have the right energy for this mare (herself has too much energy), even though I still have a LOT to learn.
Sadly, I couln't ride her, because I'm not a good rider enough (not good balance, so too much tenseness).
You are right about this.
My favorite video of yours so far! Your gentleness in helping Kathleen fine tune her riding to fit her sweet horse was very impressive. So inspiring to see the improvements for horse and rider!
Time and patience
So many pieces of this series that can help me break it down - great job Kathleen, Ryan and sweet horse!! Ryan you have a great way of supporting everyone and articulating the positives and and the" needs" to focus on without making anyone feel " less " thank you!!
She says... "I can't help myself." "That's going to be hard for me." "I can't trot with one hand." "I couldn't help that." out of her vocabulary. She could add, "...yet." to the end of a negative statement and that would be an improvement. But at the end she's on her way. Good Job!
She voiced in her outside voice what half the world was thinking in their inside voice….She’s very brave!
"The horsemans first job is to remove the fear." Dewayne Noel
2 minutes into this video and that is a whole different horse. What an amazing transformation in such a short time.
@7:30 It's great that you mention her trusting him more. He could be completely "fixed" and never spook again (impossible because he's still a horse). But even if that were possible and true... she would still not have the trust in him to be that way with her.
I've gone through exactly this with my mare. Sometimes we bend down, step back and take a smaller step forwards for ME! Which is just as important for the horse because if I am worried, then they will learn to be worried in that moment tomorrow. You're always training your horse - good or bad - with the emotions, energy and intention you have. It is SO important to admit, at least to yourself, that you don't trust that horse but you're willing to learn to try. I don't think I told any human in my life that I didn't trust my horse not to spook, freak out and throw me off... But I told her! She's earning it back so fast after using your methods and Tristan Tucker's methods though. We'll be having a blast by the middle or end of this summer and I am SO EXCITED for our future.
I was totally thinking that horse was made for you Ryan. He’s happy to be under your seat.❤
She was actually more tense and braced than the horse. She needs to relax too.
Ok so as an English rider who loves your videos and techniques Ryan, this was a hugely valuable video for me in watching Kathleen adopt this into her usual riding patterns. Thanks so much for sharing and letting me learn from you both. I'd love to see more of your videos involving transition to the owners and putting your guidance into practice.
“You have to have more moves than a can of x-lax” 😂 Killing me with the dad jokes Ryan. I would be stoked if you come to Maui to do some clinics
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It always amazes me your intuition with all the horses you show us. I sometimes try to guess what your answer will be…..I am rarely right. I am still learning!
Amazing!!! I love how you improved her confidence so much Ryan. That feeling of helping others improve their partnerships with their horses must feel so good!! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us. This series with this horse and rider was fascinating to watch.
Fantastic video. I don't own any horses (I used to when I was younger) but I love learning and watching these for when I do get a horse in the hopefully near future! My heart almost burst when Kathleen had such a great ride on him at the end. Congrats all around!
Great job Kathleen! I know the fear of bucking at the canter very well, it takes a ton of courage to relax into the canter when you have that in the back of your mind. You can tell he really wants to please because when you relax, he relaxes. What a lovely pair :)
Hi, I love watching people putting time and effort into re-educating both themselves and their horses when problems arise rather than giving up on them, but I have noticed that the bent irons are on the wrong sides the bend is ment to be on the outside of the foot so the rider foot falls free of the stirrup and is not dragged in the case of a fall, keep up the good work
i love these videos!! i constantly use what you say to improve my own riding skills and my groundwork skills 😇💖
Awesome 👏
I do the same thing
I can see he's on his way mentally. Gee he uses his body well. I notice a lot of I cant's from Kath but yes you can. I could see you can. Practice, I guess. I wish the very best for Kathleen
and thanks for the videos Ryan
This horse looks like a perfect western horse. Knowing how popular team penning is on the Big Island by the paniolos (this is the Big Island, yes?) I'm not surprised he is a natural western horse.
What a fantastic series. You're going to be one of the greats, Ryan.
Especially love these videos where we get to see more than one video.
Cisco, is another one that you and Jake both worked with that was really great to see the progression, over time, while he was at Pear Tree Ranch.
Thanks Ryan!
I had to smile during this because those of us who ride English always have legs on and use both hands on the reins!! It made me chuckle when she said "I can't trot with one hand on the reins." Yep! Thank you for your videos.
I mean... Everyone should be able to ride with one hand or no hands even... It's what kids are taught to do on the lunge line before they're even allowed to hold the reins.
@@roseschaefer5079 I started riding at the tender age of 50!!
@@stefparthemore1562 lol well I guess not everyone starts out as a kid but either way it's still an important skill to learn.
English saddle does not fit the horse, it slides. Despite all the training, the horse will react to this eventually.
I quite agree!
All saddles will slip due to the rider twisting at the waist, which puts the weight to the outside. The answer is don't twist. Outside leg back, outside shoulder back.
The horse is getting fed up with aids that are confusing to it. Horses move towards weight. The twist tells the horse to move in the opposite direction to the reins, hence over use of the reins.
Hey, fromm Germany! I agree, Saddle does not fit. It is bachwards too long and it seems, that the pad is too short, does not protect the whole length of the saddle. This must be very unconfortable for the horse, perhaps a further reason for a buck!?
I agree. This may be more of an uneducated rider/trainer issue with saddle fit and confusion!
lol. Hawaii is the US. Just not the Mainland. ☺️ You did awesome with this horse. ❤
I love what you were saying about you dont need repetition to train a horse you should be laying out your training properly to get the besr results but also love how u explain how you use it in your training as i test i never thought of it that way and i will definitely apply that when im training my horse i wanna go to ur clinics great video! And such a gorgeous horse🤩 thank you for you clear amazing videos
Thank you 😊
This was a fantastic series, super helpful!
Time and patience
Great job to all!
I enjoyed this !!
Love love love that!
Loved watching the entire progression !
Terrific set of videos.
I'm still trying to figure out which one of them got the most training.
I think that both will be much better as long as both remember their training.
I agree with what you said about buying that horse. I feel like the difference between starting and now, totally different animal. He's to a point that to finish training him completely, you would have a true beautiful horse that would be your best friend for life.
Great job. God bless y'all and stay safe around these animals. 👍👍
Well done 👍
Awesome!!
I've said this before, but listening to you talk about horses is like a balm to my brain. So many horse trainers out there have no idea the reasons behind what they are doing/saying. What you are explaining makes sense from a behavioural science point of view and from a dog trainer's point of view.
I wish you would take a dog trainer's course, one in particular that I just finished. It has transferred perfectly to my horse training and it took everything to another level. The stuff this guy teaches is INVALUABLE to all animal trainers.
But it's not cheap. Training Without Conflict by Ivan Balabanov.
hip hip! Way to go, all three of you.
Masterful, Ryan!
You never dissapoint!
So Wonderful to see the Good Results for Horse and Rider with this SHOW OFF SESSION ! She has everything she needs and the horse has a deeper understanding of what is being asked and clearer ways of corrections that are not micro managed multi faceted figuring out and tense reactions by the rider. YEAY FOR RYAN ROSE !
What a great improvement i am so happy for the horse and rider! Ryan i could see this horse really like you also well done with helping him as well❤.
Thank you so much for sharing these videos! Really interesting
Time and patience
Wow I thought I recognized those mountains! So cool you were on Kauai!
You Da Man 😎
It is hard when there is history with a horse. I feel she will always be a little nervous on this horse. When she mounted and said he was bracing….Wow I thought he looked half asleep. It takes alot of patience to restrain our brains to relax after an injury. She may be better buying a new horse and starting over in a new partnership and selling this one…he is lovely BTW.
I like the way you work with horse 🐎 and win I watch your video it helps me with my horse Nanette
Thanks
@@ryanrosehorsemanship you are welcome
I wonder if the owner has learned to balance herself with the reins?
Yep, I was thinking some lunge line riding would be helpful for her.
Love Sour Training System......
I also think he should be ridden western. Beautiful western look.❤❤
You ARE in the US, Ryan 😁.
Very interesting video's. But when I look at the saddle , while trotting on the lunge, it looks like it doesn't fit at all. It's bouncing around at the horses back.
Or is this a common fit with Western saddles?
3, 4 Weeks maybe ? If it wouldn't be for you Mr. Rose, almost unbelievable the change of this Horse from the Beginning to Now! Fantastic!
Amazing what time in the saddle does for a horses behavior
@@mattwilson4016 Based on the other videos, I would say groundwork is a great way to appear like you are working but doing nothing. Like leaning on a shovel while doing road construction.
Does that hat fit in the overhead?
Ryan doesn't try to teach the horse anything unless the horse is relaxed. Ryan makes sure the horse is relaxed. He waits until the horse is relaxed before going on.
It's called sneaking a ride
@@mattwilson4016 Actually the reason he can get a horse so calm and teach him so much is that the fact that he asks it to do nothing and teaches it nothing.
seat first legs later.
Ryan can I ask you how do I have convinced win I ride my horse 🐎 I boke my hip thank you Nanette
I really appreciate you showing people how to be bad horse trainers so that I can go buy their projects they fail at really cheap.
I've got a horse that rears when any leg pressure is applied under saddle. Several vets have looked head to toe, saddle fitters, body workers, etc.... not a pain response. Went from teaching young kids to walk/trot to being unsafe to ride. Se got 2 months off, and now coming back as though she knows nothing. Have used a lot of what you do in your videos. Would the things you do under saddle with this horse work, or is there something better? It's only an issue with the riders leg, and she only rears (has almost flipped over a couple times), no bucking.
I’ve lost count of how many times this lady has said “I can’t…” No wonder her horse can’t either. Or canter.
It will be interesting to see if she will continue to mesh with him or not...my guess is no...I think this horse is fantastic but I also think he prefers the western style of riding that is what he is..She has the english mindset...
You're so funny! Hawaii is in the US. Maybe your wife will nail you on that one. Haha. I know you meant mainland.
Stay on the horse and recover and work through it. One it strengthens your bond, two he won’t feel as safe with you and when he runs into certain situations that would make you get off, he will spook and you will get off, he wins! If that makes sense. That’s the best way I can explain it.
It doesn't seem like they're a good match honestly; the way she rides (and her chosen discipline) don't fit that horse at all. If she can't trot with one had she's using the reins for balance and is just going to make him sour with the constant contact
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Agree; where is the harmony for either of them?
I totally agree. She is trying to make this horse something he is not. She would be better off and the horse too, if she would get a horse more suited to the discipline she wants
This horse is a long way away from being ridden collected for english riding. He needs to learn to curve and supple thru his body. And move in balance first.
I would not ride him English, I would ride him western, to make he looks more like a barrel racing horse, that’s just me.
Agreed. He was trained, so started Western.
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@@SomethingaboutMary Exactly. Another really good thing is getting to know your horse. A good way to do that is their family tree, what breed was their mom and dad for example, because that will tell you alot about what their temperament could be like, this way you can experiment with the best way to approach the horse, work with the horse, but different breeds of horses are good at different things as well. You can’t make a horse into something they are not meant to be, because you will be so frustrated with the horse and never see their full potential. That’s my belief anyways.
Watching her ride, I tried to notice my own breathing as I’m a person that holds my breath.
I hope we will get to see where these two are down the are down the road. I think it will be great.
Why buy a rodeo or rope horse when you are a dressage rider ? 🤷♀️ Seems counter productive and makes the horse have learn a new language. IMO
Horses can learn new things and sometimes it's the best thing for them.
Yeah, this horse clearly has a stockhorse type build and gaits; its clear he doesn't like the direct contact either
Yea, I don't get the dressage bit. She would get much further with this horse in western events! I hope she sees that ... and gets a saddle fitter out to check that saddle!
I think she needs to tighten her girth?
... I can't trot with one rein
Try using a roping rein like Ryan does
I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings- My comment was more in shock that she can’t post with one rein. I would think anyone riding for a while could post without any reins, it’s called balance 😃 just sayin 😁
@@mattwilson4016 my comment meant, I was in shock that 'they couldn't trot with one rein' I actually use roping reins. A rider should be able to trot without any reins 😃😃😃
If you look online youbwill see the many dressage horses that cannot manage the mix of contact/collection and keg. I have ridden dressage and now hate it. Horses are so much more than the stupid horrid tight control. And the gross dropped nosebands...
I cannot imagine why you'd choose a rodeo horse and expect a dressage horse.
He looks like he was a pick up horse....loped consistent with that and the tight turns.
This horse could do so much...dressage NO.
Wow you figured out if you ride a broke horse a couple times he won't act fresh🎉🎉👏👏
If you knew how hard it was to be so bad at horse training, you would give him a little more credit for all of his screw-ups.
Time and patience
'in dressage it's all legs'....yep, IN THE WRONG DRESSAGE it is. But watch and listen to Philippe Karl 'Twisted truths of modern dressage '
There is no reason to ride a horse with contact, especially with a bit. No reason at all. You can just train the horse to give with and ask, not with a nagging contact. You use the word contact because you know it sounds good. What you mean is force on the bit.
Believe what you will; if it works for you, fine. But, you might want to buy a copy of "Lessons in Lightness" by the late Mark Russell. In it, he shows how to use a snaffle and soft contact to develop relaxation of the jaw, then the poll, then the neck and the whole spinal column. It works.
Why I don’t like the English style of riding. They never leave their faces alone.
There's nothing wrong with contact... but it is a slow process, not something that should be happening for a horse for months in a professionals hands. Especially a sensitive horse. But correct contact, and a horse seeking soft contact, is actually a beautiful thing because they will search for a feel with a long, beautiful, relaxed neck, but only when it is done correctly, and only after they develop confidence in most other aspects of riding.
@@jmwhorsemanship 👍👍
I grew up around horses, my dad trained me to ride every type of horse with all types of temperament. When I was six I was riding horses by myself with no help. We had a quarter horse named Dock from when I was six till I was 16, best horse ever, to this day I have not met a horse better. I would ride him with nothing on, in the pasture with other horses, that was my happy place! He and I had a huge bond!
Dressage is too much kicking and pulling. She needs to retrain herself too.
Nervous Nelly. This isn't the sport for her.😮😮😮
Does her saddle fit? The saddle pad is too short for the saddle so i wonder if bracing and bucking could be saddle fit?!?