Man, I've taken a break from drums my whole life. Can't wait to see what happens when I 'return' to the drums. Given all that rest I'll just very well may be the greatest drummer in the world
Conclusion of the day: the rest is so important to refresh the body, training of single and double strokes to create a better way to improve the double bass technique Thanks for the advices! 😍
I can relate even as a guitarist, practicing for 4 days straight, you fell like your technique is becoming worse, you get frustrated, then don't play for about a week, then after you come back and suddenly, you can sweep like a monster and feel like your fingers can pull of some Tech Death Riffage at 300bpm
Love your double bass knowledge. I actually started dedicated double bass since corona, but have a 3 week break because of moving, I’m not worrying anymore of not practicing:-).
Working on a ship I always have a 3 months break from drum kit - then 3 months at home on drum.., but I do hit the practice pad from time to time on ship. After I come back home I always think I lost so much, feeling not being able to keep up higher tempos - then in couple of days on drum kit I feel refreshed and that everything is 2 times more easy than it was before the contract on ship. Also, other techniques start to come more easy - because it is more easy to "erase" old muscle memory habbits that I repeated on daily basis while being at home. Great vid btw - thanks!
Great job brother. I only learned the technique... Not yet mastered. I knew you would rise above anything this world could throw at you my friend. Now, lets get some F.A. and EUGENE in TEXAS, cheers
I noticed something similar in my playing too. I was away from my kit for almost 3 months, almost never practicing because of working 60 plus hours a week. I got to play again last week and was able to play faster than normal, also felt way more relaxed. Even my guitarists noticed a difference
I had a similar Situation half a year ago when I was practitcing everyday trying to get faster at Double Bass when Is suddenly got slower. It was probably because my legs had no rest I was also Competing in a run one day before that happend so my legs were very tight and I couldn‘t Play that fast anymore but then the holidays started and I haven‘t been practicing for many Weeks After I went back from the holidays I suddenly could play faster than ever!
now who cares to explain to me the “attached small piece of drumstick underneath”? Didn’t get that one, and the image is kind of dark to understand the purpose. Nice video Engene! Great tips, and great to see a top metal drummer giving credits and exploring double strokes 💪🏼🤘🏼
You have to know something about mecanics of your brain. Even if you don't practice, while sleeping, your brain still work. Try hard something, if you don't get it, wait one or two days, and your brain will make the job for you. At my start of playing drum, I learned a lot on how my brain works, on my muscular memory, and other stuff like that. So I learnt that if you have a problem to understand a math formular, or anything else, even in drumming, while sleeping, your brain will search a way to solve that problem. I'm sure that's what happened to you, maybe I'm wrong, but it's too similar with all those times that works with me. In any case, I'm really happy for you, and thx a lot for sharing good solutions to increase our double bass technics, as always you're a really kind person dude. Take care, hope to see you in France a day
Amazing. So tight and controlled for the song. Singles is my preferred technique for feel and sound but heel-toe has made achieving really high tempo's not only 'easier' but it takes less stamina and from what I have heard it's quicker and more efficient with the time spent learning it. Like DD he floats beautifully between heel-toe and singles for feet; and fingers and push-pull for hands. Incredible stuff. Thanks, man. :)
I agree mostly but doubles take much more physical effort. You need tighter springs and use the small shin muscles which take a very long time to build. Singles relies on the pedal swing which is easy to continue. This is just based off of many drummers i know who use singles and myself who uses doubles! But I’d love to hear what you think!
@@KaiOwensDrums. Ohh, ok. You're more in the technical know-how than me. I'm just going by what I've heard from pro drummers and the pro's and cons for 'them' as conversely, it differs from person to person, I guess. I think most would agree that John Longstreth was one of the first in Extreme Metal to use heel-to or popularise it (?), per say. There is a plethora of techniques and information out there and I think it's like read music and not: sure you can get far by ear alone but you're not gonna get a jazz gig for lunch or money if you can't sight read. Moreover, maybe not great analogy but basically use what works for you and/or makes things the easiest to achieve your goal(s). I respect big time, either technique, for people to play anything over 250bpm as no easy task. Just wanna get back to gigs. Wonder if we'll get any club gigs this year. I've gone through every case scenario in my head and cannot see it happening whilst obeying social distancing. We're only at the very beginning of this and nobody knows with any certainty what's gonna happen. Without a vaccine things are gonna be VERY slow to go back to some resemblance of normality - it won't be a normal we've ever seen and will be pervasive and force us into a future and I don't think relatable to how we were prior covid-19. Anyway, I hope everyone stays safe and comes out of this strong: because we are a f***ing strong community and I know we can come together as a global community with resilience and passion and rise again. Peace out. :)
A similar thing happened with my guitar playing, more along the lines of the circular “Eric Johnson” pick technique when used to play gallops at a high tempo
Fun fact. Race horses are forced to exercise every day without stop until they hit 1 year old, if they don't do that the horse starts to loose muscle mass. After 1 year old the owners start to shorten the exercise and adding resting days progressively and proportional to the age. If they don't do that the muscle mass have no time to regenerate, and thus, will loose muscle mass. That happens to us humans at around 27 - 30 years old. Maybe not a 2 month rests, but you have to consider stop practicing at least a few days per week and some longer periods per month. You need to find your sweet spot, because every body is different.
I have been playing for 7 years now.My feet has been like total shit past 2 years. Its so annoying. Its like a nightmare. Cant believe i cant play stuff anymore that i played like 2-3 years ago
It is well known in sports that the rest between sessions of tough physical exercise can be divided into two phases. The first phase deals with bringing the body back to the capacity it had before the session. The second phase brings the body to a capacity higher than it was before. But in order to enter this the second phase one must rest longer than people think. So taking longer breaks now and then is not bad at all if one wants to develop the physical capacity as much as possible.
This happened with me, but not on double bass, i can now do double stroke on one foot, as i only have one pedal. And yes it still need alot of work. But its cool to be able to do it
Magic? .. hehe.. I think this break allowed your brain to run freely in background and, suddenly, figure out this double strokes motion technique. But for sure your 10 years mastering the single strokes, and the recent responsability of being the FA drummer, played a big role in this new development.
omg I been getting into double strokes for the past several months and your double strokes are infinitely better than mine LOL!..... ^actually that was an understatement. My heel toe is absolute garbage! XD
I had to pause drumming for 7 months because I hurt both my wrists. Before I could barely play 200bpm. When I got back, my left hand was suddenly able to play 240 bpm and even 250 for a short while and I honestly don't know how this happened
I think you could do like trey Williams... He uses doubles for 300 ish bpm and you could use swivel for below 300 bpm and you could also use it for one foot blasting...
I haven't played anything these last 2 years after surgury in both wrists. I tried to play a little a couple of weeks ago, just to find out I have lost almost everything. Technique, feel, and stamina. Breaks isn't always good. 🙃
Maybe too late to ask, but I'll try. In your old video "How To Play Fast? (Advanced Double Bass Techniques)" you were talking about 90 degrees between beater and bass drum. Now I see this thing had changed. Is there any new thoughts after that old video, or setup with 90 degrees is useful for training only?
Dude ! I beg to differ, i was in very great shape especially with my hips before the lockdown, could pull out powerfull mid tempos and fast tempos up to 240/250 bpm, 2 months later without practicing during the whole break… hum....Well ... Let's say i was able to go back behind the kit.. and now 3 weeks from the end of the lockdown i am just barely getting back all the controll i had with heavy daily practice because i lost almost everything.. I'd say be aware it will be different with everyone, getting rest is a good thing, but at least keep playing/doing the motions you're used to on the floor cause it can all go by the window faster than a blink of an eye !! .
Doubles may be easier, they just don’t look as impressive as swivel and don’t sound at all good without triggers. But you know... do what ya like, it’s your life yo.
I find 2 months to be a PERFECT point of rest where you can pull random shit outta no where after that I find to legitimately lose technique I’ve been outta practice for 5 months now sat behind my kit and found I could not play double kick passed 235 where as I could play 270 singles 5 months ago
The very same thing happened to me. I can go way faster than I used to now but one thing you didn't mention is that you also lose a bit of technique and independance. I eventually recovered it with practice but struggling to do patterns that took you long to master is very frustrating.
Any words of wisdom for the guy with the lowest stamina in existence? Even if i play slowly my legs literally stop working after 5 minutes it makes it extremely hard for me to progress or learn something new
Whoa! Wait a minute. What s up with the stick taped under the pedal? And secondly, how dont you have trigger problems with 0 scan time and retrig cancel 1 ? What triggers are these? Shit.
It's in the video. Footblasters. The way I put the sticks under the pedal is how Eric taught me. I think there should be a video on Drum Technique Academy or Marthyn's podcast with Eric. Look for it on CZcams.
Oh my double Jesus Christ
KERIM EUGENE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS
I LOVE YOU
*Eugene walks in the studio after 2 months
Drumkit:” ah shit here we go again “
This is the most crazy thing i've seen this year.
Man, I've taken a break from drums my whole life. Can't wait to see what happens when I 'return' to the drums. Given all that rest I'll just very well may be the greatest drummer in the world
😂
wow eugene, way to go, torturing us for 30hours
sorry :D
I actually spent this whole quarentine practicing doubles
And do you seem to be able to do it in real time ? Like in a song while practicing ?
@@EliottRaveauyes, i learned hertas and stuff
I love the irony
Conclusion of the day: the rest is so important to refresh the body, training of single and double strokes to create a better way to improve the double bass technique
Thanks for the advices! 😍
You is a machine!!!!!
Now, The Violation actually violates even more :D
Great job !
Completely agreed, taking breaks, especially after long period of hardworking, gives an incredible boost to your skill!
Thanks for motiveted us eugene, you is a amazing drummer and person!
Yeah man!
Great video Eugene
Excellent advice Eugene, I am taking it.
Saludos desde Argentina a big fan...
I can relate even as a guitarist, practicing for 4 days straight, you fell like your technique is becoming worse, you get frustrated, then don't play for about a week, then after you come back and suddenly, you can sweep like a monster and feel like your fingers can pull of some Tech Death Riffage at 300bpm
Very true man. Thanks for sharing. Works really well for golf too😎
Insane. One day I wanna be this good. Thanks for inspiration.
Very excited to see where this goes.
Congrats bro! 300 BPM!!!!
I liked that you also showed the sound without triggers, really interesting
also are you human?
Love your double bass knowledge. I actually started dedicated double bass since corona, but have a 3 week break because of moving, I’m not worrying anymore of not practicing:-).
u are so crazy man!!! :) Thx for the video
My favorite drummer 👉👉🥁🤘
Working on a ship I always have a 3 months break from drum kit - then 3 months at home on drum.., but I do hit the practice pad from time to time on ship. After I come back home I always think I lost so much, feeling not being able to keep up higher tempos - then in couple of days on drum kit I feel refreshed and that everything is 2 times more easy than it was before the contract on ship. Also, other techniques start to come more easy - because it is more easy to "erase" old muscle memory habbits that I repeated on daily basis while being at home. Great vid btw - thanks!
Your double base is fuckin amazing!
you made it look so easy.
Great job brother. I only learned the technique... Not yet mastered. I knew you would rise above anything this world could throw at you my friend. Now, lets get some F.A. and EUGENE in TEXAS, cheers
300!!!🤯 I had a Roland TD6 for years 🤘 now I have a TD17. Gotta love Roland!!!
When I get back to my drums, I hope something clicks for me 😂
Yeah, metronome xD
I noticed something similar in my playing too. I was away from my kit for almost 3 months, almost never practicing because of working 60 plus hours a week. I got to play again last week and was able to play faster than normal, also felt way more relaxed. Even my guitarists noticed a difference
I had a similar Situation half a year ago when I was practitcing everyday trying to get faster at Double Bass when Is suddenly got slower. It was probably because my legs had no rest I was also Competing in a run one day before that happend so my legs were very tight and I couldn‘t Play that fast anymore but then the holidays started and I haven‘t been practicing for many Weeks After I went back from the holidays I suddenly could play faster than ever!
now who cares to explain to me the “attached small piece of drumstick underneath”? Didn’t get that one, and the image is kind of dark to understand the purpose. Nice video Engene! Great tips, and great to see a top metal drummer giving credits and exploring double strokes 💪🏼🤘🏼
To raise the back of the foot board up a bit.
@@JeffDesmond Thanks! 👍🏼
Watch IN THE NAME OF ZION on Bitchute yea but why?
Jacopo Vigano' it lets your heel drop without hitting the ground
Imagine gravity blasting but on your pedals. The stick works like the rim of your drum, acting as a point of leverage.
"I'M JUST SUPER GOOD GENIUS."
Double stroke bonus skill unlocked.
cool
I use ACD Unlimited beaters too. Their badass.
You have to know something about mecanics of your brain. Even if you don't practice, while sleeping, your brain still work. Try hard something, if you don't get it, wait one or two days, and your brain will make the job for you. At my start of playing drum, I learned a lot on how my brain works, on my muscular memory, and other stuff like that. So I learnt that if you have a problem to understand a math formular, or anything else, even in drumming, while sleeping, your brain will search a way to solve that problem. I'm sure that's what happened to you, maybe I'm wrong, but it's too similar with all those times that works with me. In any case, I'm really happy for you, and thx a lot for sharing good solutions to increase our double bass technics, as always you're a really kind person dude. Take care, hope to see you in France a day
Amazing. So tight and controlled for the song. Singles is my preferred technique for feel and sound but heel-toe has made achieving really high tempo's not only 'easier' but it takes less stamina and from what I have heard it's quicker and more efficient with the time spent learning it. Like DD he floats beautifully between heel-toe and singles for feet; and fingers and push-pull for hands. Incredible stuff. Thanks, man. :)
I agree mostly but doubles take much more physical effort. You need tighter springs and use the small shin muscles which take a very long time to build. Singles relies on the pedal swing which is easy to continue. This is just based off of many drummers i know who use singles and myself who uses doubles! But I’d love to hear what you think!
@@KaiOwensDrums. Ohh, ok. You're more in the technical know-how than me. I'm just going by what I've heard from pro drummers and the pro's and cons for 'them' as conversely, it differs from person to person, I guess.
I think most would agree that John Longstreth was one of the first in Extreme Metal to use heel-to or popularise it (?), per say.
There is a plethora of techniques and information out there and I think it's like read music and not: sure you can get far by ear alone but you're not gonna get a jazz gig for lunch or money if you can't sight read.
Moreover, maybe not great analogy but basically use what works for you and/or makes things the easiest to achieve your goal(s). I respect big time, either technique, for people to play anything over 250bpm as no easy task.
Just wanna get back to gigs. Wonder if we'll get any club gigs this year. I've gone through every case scenario in my head and cannot see it happening whilst obeying social distancing.
We're only at the very beginning of this and nobody knows with any certainty what's gonna happen. Without a vaccine things are gonna be VERY slow to go back to some resemblance of normality - it won't be a normal we've ever seen and will be pervasive and force us into a future and I don't think relatable to how we were prior covid-19.
Anyway, I hope everyone stays safe and comes out of this strong: because we are a f***ing strong community and I know we can come together as a global community with resilience and passion and rise again. Peace out. :)
2.5 months manage to master double stroke on 300bpm? 🤯 That was incredibly superb!
This is the way..
Wait until the final seconds of the video. Eugene is a humble, honest guy.
Ruben Salvador I agree. He’s such a nice guy. 🤘🏻
but he didnt practice doubles
A similar thing happened with my guitar playing, more along the lines of the circular “Eric Johnson” pick technique when used to play gallops at a high tempo
JUST THE FRIGHTENING LOOK ON THE POSTED PICTURE OF EUGENE (THE MEAN BEAN MACHINE) RYABCHENKO FACE SAYS IT ALL
Me returning to drums: Fuck I can't play Sad But True anymore.
Eugene returning to drums: Oh shit I can do heel-toe at 600bpms now!
SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU CAN FINALLY PLAY INFANT ANNIHILATOR...................IT WILL BE LEGENDARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe I should give it a try 😅
Fun fact. Race horses are forced to exercise every day without stop until they hit 1 year old, if they don't do that the horse starts to loose muscle mass. After 1 year old the owners start to shorten the exercise and adding resting days progressively and proportional to the age. If they don't do that the muscle mass have no time to regenerate, and thus, will loose muscle mass. That happens to us humans at around 27 - 30 years old. Maybe not a 2 month rests, but you have to consider stop practicing at least a few days per week and some longer periods per month. You need to find your sweet spot, because every body is different.
I have been playing for 7 years now.My feet has been like total shit past 2 years. Its so annoying. Its like a nightmare. Cant believe i cant play stuff anymore that i played like 2-3 years ago
@@juusoleino6631 same here. Now I struggle with my own songs
Me motivated to go back to Drums...
Me after watching this Video: Drums are burning and I am playing Triangle now...
It was a full-fledged quarantine, there is no need to joke about it.
Hello Snowflake
Hello Snowflake
That was turned up to 11👍
👍”doubles” is the sh*t:)
👍👍👍👍👍
It is well known in sports that the rest between sessions of tough physical exercise can be divided into two phases. The first phase deals with bringing the body back to the capacity it had before the session. The second phase brings the body to a capacity higher than it was before. But in order to enter this the second phase one must rest longer than people think. So taking longer breaks now and then is not bad at all if one wants to develop the physical capacity as much as possible.
This happened with me, but not on double bass, i can now do double stroke on one foot, as i only have one pedal. And yes it still need alot of work. But its cool to be able to do it
its like discovering superpower hahaha
Wearing out the face of those footboards!! Nice.
Двойки классные
This guy plays drums since I was born !?
like exercising, your muscles require breaks to repair themselves. so yes, breaks are very important
Magic? .. hehe.. I think this break allowed your brain to run freely in background and, suddenly, figure out this double strokes motion technique. But for sure your 10 years mastering the single strokes, and the recent responsability of being the FA drummer, played a big role in this new development.
omg I been getting into double strokes for the past several months and your double strokes are infinitely better than mine LOL!.....
^actually that was an understatement. My heel toe is absolute garbage! XD
Have you seen the alex grind modifications to his czarcies? Really extreme
I had to pause drumming for 7 months because I hurt both my wrists. Before I could barely play 200bpm. When I got back, my left hand was suddenly able to play 240 bpm and even 250 for a short while and I honestly don't know how this happened
300 outta nowhere? Such insanity!
And yeah. Resting is important
I think you could do like trey Williams... He uses doubles for 300 ish bpm and you could use swivel for below 300 bpm and you could also use it for one foot blasting...
контроль просто вышка. С круцифаями играешь еще?
I haven't played anything these last 2 years after surgury in both wrists. I tried to play a little a couple of weeks ago, just to find out I have lost almost everything. Technique, feel, and stamina. Breaks isn't always good. 🙃
Maybe too late to ask, but I'll try. In your old video "How To Play Fast? (Advanced Double Bass Techniques)" you were talking about 90 degrees between beater and bass drum. Now I see this thing had changed. Is there any new thoughts after that old video, or setup with 90 degrees is useful for training only?
0:05 soundtrack resident Evil 3 😱😆
what does the small piece of drumstick do? or what is ist for?
Dude ! I beg to differ, i was in very great shape especially with my hips before the lockdown, could pull out powerfull mid tempos and fast tempos up to 240/250 bpm, 2 months later without practicing during the whole break… hum....Well ...
Let's say i was able to go back behind the kit.. and now 3 weeks from the end of the lockdown i am just barely getting back all the controll i had with heavy daily practice because i lost almost everything..
I'd say be aware it will be different with everyone, getting rest is a good thing, but at least keep playing/doing the motions you're used to on the floor cause it can all go by the window faster than a blink of an eye !! .
Is that a new Sonor drum set? Looks awesome.
Doubles may be easier, they just don’t look as impressive as swivel and don’t sound at all good without triggers.
But you know... do what ya like, it’s your life yo.
Well I mean if you can go 300bpm with any technique it's amazing especially without a huge amount of practice
@@patrickboxsell1365 yeah he can now refine the technique and make it perfect.
doubles can sound totally fine without triggers if you do it right
Badger Mcblasty If it looks so impressive why don’t ya fuckin learn it
You are so good that you improve your skills by not practicing. Damn!
Great improvement dude... Try some despised icon song \m/
Simon Schiling can reach 300bpm with swivel? That guy is a monster.
What name of PEDAL
🥰
I find 2 months to be a PERFECT point of rest where you can pull random shit outta no where after that I find to legitimately lose technique I’ve been outta practice for 5 months now sat behind my kit and found I could not play double kick passed 235 where as I could play 270 singles 5 months ago
What is the small piece of drumstick taped to the bottom of the pedal? I couldnt tell
i stopped playing during quarantine and 1.5/2 weeks later when i played again i became slower lmao
Does it have anything to do with hanging out with Francesco Paoli ;) j/k love the 2bles.
This video is going to be F A S T
Lol the fact that Im a huge fan of all the drummers in your description including you of course Eugene :D
IS IT FRIGHTENING OF COURSE
it's all about the ankles bud :D
Именно так я когда-то научился играть бластбиты и сканкбиты.
Hey what sices are you using on this really nice sounding Donor set
Whats with the drumstick under the pedals? I would really like to know
Makes playing doubles with the heel off the pedal board easier
Eric morotti explains it In this video
czcams.com/video/zsJ_NtWtVnU/video.html
It is bizare how you can take a month off and be better then ever, trips me out ever time it happens.
одне питання,, як зліпити в одно смугу? в мене не виходить(( чути розрив звуку..
Хотелось бы всё - таки русские субтитры) твой английский и так понятно звучит.
The very same thing happened to me. I can go way faster than I used to now but one thing you didn't mention is that you also lose a bit of technique and independance. I eventually recovered it with practice but struggling to do patterns that took you long to master is very frustrating.
Necronomicon - The time is now.... Cover Please
I hope other people also watched it until the end. All my non-triggering hopes immediately flew out the window. :D
I think we're the only ones
It is possible! I can get cleanish sound upwards of 230 bpm with doubles
IT PRETTY MUCH SEEMS YOU DO NOT LOOSE NOTHING IT IS PROBABLY ALL MUSCLE MEMORY AFTER YEARS OF SHEDDING
Any words of wisdom for the guy with the lowest stamina in existence? Even if i play slowly my legs literally stop working after 5 minutes it makes it extremely hard for me to progress or learn something new
AHAHAHAH godlike. :D
Whoa! Wait a minute. What s up with the stick taped under the pedal? And secondly, how dont you have trigger problems with 0 scan time and retrig cancel 1 ? What triggers are these? Shit.
It's in the video.
Footblasters.
The way I put the sticks under the pedal is how Eric taught me. I think there should be a video on Drum Technique Academy or Marthyn's podcast with Eric. Look for it on CZcams.
вангую что будет пулемётная очередь🤣
The same sort of thing happened with me, but I’m just nowhere near as fast
Can I be cool one day?
Haha 2006 i wasnt even born😂
btw. same goes to fitness. rest build muscles.
But you play differently now! Before you have the swivel technique. But at such a speed, you're using a different one.