Our New Fender Jazzmaster: The First 24 Minutes - That Pedal Show

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    In this episode we flop like new-born giraffe from the uterus of ‘normal’ guitars onto the unforgiving savannah of the Fender Jazzmaster. Watch in awe as we struggle to our feet, wide-eyed at the new horizon before us and stagger instinctively towards safety and nourishment.
    Will we get eaten by lions or survive to master the jangly jazzer? One thing is for sure: Dano, I have a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore.
    Big thanks to Coda Music of Stevenage for selling us the beast and ensuring its safe passage and highly satisfying arrival.
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    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    - Intro playing: 0:00
    - So we have a Jazzmaster: 2:14
    - What about those pickups? 3:54
    - What colour is it? 4:30
    - Comparison with Mick’s Strat: 7:08
    - 1k pots? You mean 1meg…. Aha! 8:33
    - The Rhythm Circuit: 10:00
    - Comparison with Dan’s Tele: 12:45
    - With Xotic BB Preamp: 13:40
    - And fuzz? 14:18
    - Comparison with Mick’s Collings 290 DC-S: 17:59
    - Dan plays us out: 19:48
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  • @sambrockelsby522
    @sambrockelsby522 Před 5 lety +65

    When discussing the tremolo: "I would be on this all the time, every note I play".We'll make a shoegazer of you yet Dan.

  • @adriendubois1183
    @adriendubois1183 Před 5 lety +139

    Those descriptions written by mick deserve so much more recognition they’re the real highlight of TPS videos

  • @Puisheen
    @Puisheen Před 5 lety +161

    Enjoyed seeing you both dive in to Leo Fender's most brilliant and misunderstood guitar design! Let me know if there's anything I can do to be of service in helping you navigate this strange and wonderful instrument.

    • @gitsloth1
      @gitsloth1 Před 5 lety +26

      Puisheen ahhh wouldn’t it be amazing to have you on the show?! 🤯

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen Před 5 lety +19

      ​@@gitsloth1 I'll bring you as my play tester. Look at us, two pals having an old-fashioned chat in the youtube comments!

    • @tiorimas
      @tiorimas Před 2 lety +3

      I do have a question: Can a Jazzmaster cover most of the tonal ranges of a Strat? I would imagine it does happen the other way around.
      I'm asking because I'm in between getting a Warmoth Strat build or a stock Jazzmaster and I play a lot of Hendrix and RHCP, so not sure the Jazzmaster is really fit for that purpose.

    • @gunkanjima3408
      @gunkanjima3408 Před 2 lety

      @@tiorimas Do you just like the looks of a JM or something? RHCP and Hendrix are Strat players

    • @milkwater1204
      @milkwater1204 Před rokem +1

      @@gunkanjima3408 Hendrix also played a JM to be fair.

  • @davidlynch4338
    @davidlynch4338 Před 5 lety +307

    Smartest thing said in this whole video... 15:14
    Please don't "treble-up" the rhythm circuit and "treble-down" the lead circuit. That would totally defeat the purpose of this guitar.
    Set the rhythm circuit so that you have a nice jazz rhythm sound (tone rolled back a bit) and use it as a preset you can jump to.
    And let the lead circuit be your versatile "cut through the mix" circuit. Don't castrate it with 250/500k pots, then you'll just have another Tele. In that case, play a Tele.
    People who tape off the rhythm circuit really want a Telecaster and just don't know it.
    Another great sound possible with Jazzmasters/Jags is to roll the tone all the way down on the rhythm circuit and put on a fuzz. Instant violin.

    • @g.koch.
      @g.koch. Před 5 lety +8

      E bow works also fine AF with the rhytm circuit

    • @mvsr990
      @mvsr990 Před 5 lety +31

      Never understood "defeat the purpose of the Jazzmaster" arguments - swapping in 500k or 250k pots doesn't fundamentally change the character of the guitar, it just means you can run them at full and be sitting where most people use the stock pots and have a better sweep. It still doesn't sound like a Telecaster.
      Most of the sounds/players people associate with offsets were modded - Robert Smith's middle pickup and Buzz Stop, Nels Cline has 250k pots, Lee Ranaldo and Thurston Moore have... everything, Tom Verlaine's Jaguar had lipsticks, J. Mascis uses Tune-O-Matics.

    • @Javier-qk7ms
      @Javier-qk7ms Před 5 lety +14

      I say keep it as it is and love if for what it is. Using a different guitar gives you different options and ideas.

    • @davidlynch4338
      @davidlynch4338 Před 5 lety +43

      @@mvsr990 Yeah, my words sort of jumped out I guess. I should rephrase and say changing the pots defeats one of my favourite elements of a Jazzmaster, which is the ability to occupy odd sonic territory. Not for everyone I guess... I play Tele's and Strats as well, and just see so many people who get a Jazzmaster disappointed when they don't sound like they expect Fenders to sound. I really love the versatility of the circuitry these guitars offer and wish others would learn how it all works before gutting them. The video is "The first 24 minutes" with the guitar and he already wants to cut it and dismiss one of its main features before he even understands it. You can see clearly that they don't fully understand the point of the difference between the circuits beyond the instruction manuals explanation.
      I also mod the hell out of some of my Jazzmasters and Jaguars, that is part of the fun these guitars, it is just disappointing when people mod them to sound like their siblings.
      Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo are perfect examples of people who want the sound of other guitars, but like the look of a Jazzmaster (Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Sonic Youth and will probably get crucified for saying that). They love their signature Jazzmasters for the sound of a Tele custom, but with the added 3rd bridge bells they can get with the behind the bridge tones (Also love that about Jazzmasters). Nels has many many many Jazzmasters/Jags stock and modded that he switches up and definitely uses them in all ways imaginable.
      And Buzzstops.... Don't get me started... I build/repair guitars for a living and know snake oil when I see it. Adjusting the neck to the proper angle eliminates any need for a Buzzstop. They look bad and interfere with tuning/vibrato stability, just to kill a sympathetic buzz that can be fixed by increasing the neck angle (a 5 minute job). Every Jazzmaster/Jag I have ever done a set up on convinced my clients to get rid of it.
      Jay uses tune-o-matics on his signature models because Mastery couldn't or wouldn't commit to supplying Fender so many bridges for the JM, the TVL and the Elvis Costello models.
      The 1meg pots on the Jazzmaster and the choke on a Jag aren't fully appreciated until you are playing in the context of a full band or in the studio where standing out without being louder can be difficult.
      When I play alone I also find the treble a bit much to take, but in a band, especially a large band with a few guitars, you can easily jump out of the mix with these guitars, which is by design.
      Anyway... like any religion, offset religion isn't for everyone. ;)

    • @tonym7648
      @tonym7648 Před 5 lety +16

      Another +1 for the “leave it as is” thought. Let the Jazzmaster be what it’s meant to be, just give it the time to learn its strengths and weaknesses. I’m sure it’ll be worth it.

  • @nicholascaldwell6079
    @nicholascaldwell6079 Před 5 lety +76

    "Fu... ar. Out." Nice save. On a more serious note, I do love a trebly guitar and now I want a Jazzmaster. Darn it!

    • @joshcasper5038
      @joshcasper5038 Před 5 lety +2

      Nicholas Caldwell I loved that too... definitely didn’t sound like he was gonna say “far out”! Maybe “fu-ar out” can be the new chalk and day?

    • @fpsknifer9906
      @fpsknifer9906 Před 5 lety +1

      Perhaps you'd like a Jaguar? It looks like a Jazzmaster but shorter, shinier, and treble-ier.

    • @SFolkes97
      @SFolkes97 Před 5 lety +1

      Nicholas Caldwell - "Darn it!" Exactly my reaction. The LAST thing I need is another guitar but the sound of that thing! Seems like THE guitar sound that has cut through a million recordings.

  • @MooreMatt
    @MooreMatt Před 5 lety +24

    I play with my JM tone at 7ish. I love how my JM goes from so bright to dark and fuzzy. So many great sounds in those guitars.

  • @bbmade
    @bbmade Před 5 lety +16

    Duco = cellulose nitrate
    Lucite = cellulose acetate butyrate
    Duco has an amber tint that gets darker over time and Lucite (acrylic) lacquer is clear sometimes called “water white” lacquer. Car finishes changed to acrylic to make colors more consistent and color matching repairs easier. Duco exposed to sunlight and elements cracked and changed colors quickly and Lucite was more flexible, non Amber and didn’t get darker the way nitro does. Fender sometimes clear coated lucite with duco and sometimes they didn’t so guitars might have been Lake Placid Blue originally but if clear coated with Duco it would turn green over time and decades later be mistaken for Sherwood green until you take the pickguard off and see the finish that hadn’t been exposed to light.
    I could go on but I’m a finish geek and not everyone shares my enthusiasm.
    Great video again!

  • @angelic_slayer
    @angelic_slayer Před 5 lety +36

    I have a 1961 Fender Jazzmaster. It’s the most beautiful thing. With the cleans and the verbs and the ambient and the delays it’s a world of stunningly soft clouds and rain showers. It’s a whole new world. A different planet. A wetter planet. Like Venus.

    • @zhou_sei
      @zhou_sei Před 5 lety +6

      if by "wetter" you mean "extremely hot and dry on the surface, with sulphuric acid clouds", then yes. the jazzmaster is like that.

    • @angelic_slayer
      @angelic_slayer Před 5 lety +1

      nepalnt2121 I did say it was different! Cloudburn!

  • @bu5hm4nn
    @bu5hm4nn Před 5 lety +82

    Maybe the pots are deliberately so "trebly" because the tone knob was designed to be used at 5 normally so that you can go both ways with the treble. Just a guess.

    • @kaiying74
      @kaiying74 Před 3 lety +18

      What, you mean the correct setting for a knob isn't turned up full? Mind blown...

    • @slendergems590
      @slendergems590 Před 3 lety +1

      Yea I have this same guitar, I always got to roll the tone down a little over halfway because it’s just so aggressively trebly , but that’s why I like it! That’s what the jazzmaster is all about

    • @craigtodd8297
      @craigtodd8297 Před 3 lety +4

      @@kaiying74 Its difficult to find a guitar review of any type without the tone pot on 10.

    • @tlister67
      @tlister67 Před 3 lety +2

      It is better to be able to turn it down than not have treble in the first place

    • @leo._.vincent
      @leo._.vincent Před 2 lety +4

      @@tlister67 I honestly just changed my pickup heights a bit and dropped the treble on the bridge and I think it helps imo

  • @koski666
    @koski666 Před 5 lety +31

    I once changed the pots to 500K, and switched back to 1meg soon after. I felt like my JM lost some mojo. I just back off the Tone knob to about 6 when I use the Bridge pickup, and back to 10 for the neck. Sounds and works great like that.

    • @bean953
      @bean953 Před 5 lety +5

      Jonathan Veillette
      Yes they are great with those pickups , Leo was right about the 1000k on the Jaguar and Jazzmaster!!!!!

    • @MrBradHendrickson
      @MrBradHendrickson Před 5 lety +2

      Might as well hardwire a low-value cap to ground for just the bridge pickup - perhaps even a .0005 uF (500 pF) would be enough? They're cheap enough to just get a few different intervals between that and, say, a .002 uF (2000 pF, 2.0 nF) so that the bridge pickup will always sound to your ear as is does with the Tone rolled to 6. You can still use the Tone for additional treble attenuation, but at least you can then flip between pickups without having to reach for the Tone knob each time. Good luck!

    • @randocalrissian4520
      @randocalrissian4520 Před 5 lety +6

      "Wait, you can turn the knobs?" -90% of rock guitar players

    • @TheRealFreekBos
      @TheRealFreekBos Před 5 lety

      Yes... it's all about the mojo!

    • @pablo9364
      @pablo9364 Před 5 lety +1

      Jonathan Veillette it’s not rocket science then. Just turn the knob down or up and all is good. I think he likes to over complicate

  • @felixpopp2760
    @felixpopp2760 Před 5 lety +11

    I play a Jazzmaster from the Classic Player series released a few years ago in a band context with brass. Setting up my basic sound with volume around 5 and tone on 6-7 for my usual lead guitar work through the regular circuit gives me a great audible frequency window vs. all the other stuff going on in the band. Setting the "unusable" rhytm circuit at full volume against that serves as a great lead/solo tone. So no pedal kicking involved, just a flick of a switch. Love it!

  • @kolewaters1652
    @kolewaters1652 Před 5 lety +59

    “The unusable circuit” 😂the rhythm circuit is my favorite part of jazz masters.

    • @Updog89
      @Updog89 Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed. Works great for fuzz or as a kill switch! Also nice for a little muddy woody jazz noodling.

    • @BobPerrone
      @BobPerrone Před rokem +4

      Always surprised by folks who think the rhythm circuit is useless. I live there too!

    • @jonathanbolger6173
      @jonathanbolger6173 Před rokem +1

      Honestly, just got a JM and it's my favourite so far. That partly because the lead circuit is very piercing as mentioned in the video. Definitely need to update the pots.

  • @coyotehollowband
    @coyotehollowband Před 5 lety +9

    Thank you for clarifying the JM pickup issue. You are correct in saying many people get that way wrong.

  • @ArtAlienTV
    @ArtAlienTV Před 5 lety +29

    Just turn the tone knob down a third - sounds real fine 😊

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR Před 5 lety +2

    I just happen to love The Shadows.

  • @samuel.langhorne.clemens
    @samuel.langhorne.clemens Před 3 lety +5

    Thing I love about TPS in addition to British accents and serious guitar knowledge is that the guys just have so much fun. They’re gear nerds that get all excited about tone the way us regular guitar nerds do!

  • @nym053
    @nym053 Před rokem +7

    Higher frequencies also provokes drip from a spring reverb more easily. So makes a lot of sense why especially the Jazzmaster is the prefered choice for most (I think) to use for surf.

  • @jamesciccone112
    @jamesciccone112 Před 5 lety +33

    The Jazzmaster is quite the weapon with the volume on full! Jason Lollar (sorry, never met him, so no horn) says turning the volume down to about 8 with the 1 meg pot is roughly equivalent tone-wise to volume on 10 with a 500K. I rarely leave mine on 10, but it's nice to have that top end if you need it. Love your surf green Jazzmaster!

    • @bean953
      @bean953 Před 5 lety +1

      James Ciccone Proper use of the offsets pickups!!!! The bridges are a miss though... I have an AO 2018 Jaguar and instantly changed the stock bridge to a mastery that I had in my CIJ Jag....

    • @jamesciccone112
      @jamesciccone112 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bean953 Do you have the Surf Green AO? I have that one and have to admit I put a Staytrem in it. I tried to get the stock bridge to work--honest, I did! Fender did such a great job with that Jag. Trying to stay stock with my Jazzmaster, though. Call me crazy, but I think the stock bridge has a little more harmonic content to it. Yeah, I'm probably just crazy.

    • @bean953
      @bean953 Před 5 lety +1

      I have the sunburst AO Jaguar. I tried for about 3 weeks with 11s to make the stock bridge work but I got some buzz and strings popping out of place so back to mastery and a proper setup . We have in Porto a guitar luthier with a good track record on offsets since he takes care of Lee Ranaldo’s guitars when he is touring in this side of the pond. The only other work I had on the guitar besides the bridge swap was copper shielding the body cavities, everything else will stay stock. If I could I would have a StayTrem tremolo arm because fender’s is not very good in staying in place it tends to swing to a low position.I will get the guitar this week.

    • @AlexeiOrechin
      @AlexeiOrechin Před 5 lety

      That is the ultimate sweet spot! Maybe at 8.5 for me, and the beauty is.. you have an extra 1.5 boost still! I have a vid on my channel of a little jam I did with my '62 AVRI, comparing Space Echo vs El Capistan if you want to check it out :)

  • @Deaddinoproductions
    @Deaddinoproductions Před 5 lety +4

    I've owned an American '62 reissue JM since 2008 and it's still my favorite thing to play. But they don't play nice with just any kind of amp or pedal, you gotta find the right pairings for them. It was often too bright or thin sounding through the gear I was using back then and I was never 100% satisfied with the sound until I picked up a 65 twin reissue loaded with NOS tubes. My rig slowly evolved as I got more and more into warm, fuzzy, doomy tones, and although this wouldn't be my go-to guitar for doom or stoner rock, it sounds amazing when plugged into that kind of rig for more straightforward indie rock / dream pop / shoegaze vibes. After finding the right pairings for it, if it still ever gets too harsh on the top end, just roll the tone knob back a couple notches and it smooths right out. No need to change the pots.

  • @barneyharding
    @barneyharding Před 5 lety +9

    So excited!!!!!! The guitar to rule them all! Im gonna download this so I can forever see how excited Dan is! He will be taking it home or buying one for himself!

  • @mattswannie6651
    @mattswannie6651 Před 3 lety +6

    Gorgeous playing from 19:48 onwards by Dan. Perfect style for the voicing options that a Jazzie offers.

  • @Beatsmith2005
    @Beatsmith2005 Před 5 lety +11

    "I love it, sounds great! Let's change it..." ;-)

  • @ScottJamesHicks
    @ScottJamesHicks Před 5 lety +58

    Leave the 1 meg pots. Maybe install 50s wiring? Use tone control.

    • @shckltnebay
      @shckltnebay Před 5 lety +2

      NO 1meg pots are horrible

    • @randocalrissian4520
      @randocalrissian4520 Před 5 lety +4

      @@shckltnebay If you don't know how to use the volume and tone knobs, maybe.

    • @mcbrodz1663
      @mcbrodz1663 Před 5 lety

      Or lower the bridge pick up

  • @ishancooper
    @ishancooper Před 5 lety +11

    Another great recommended mod is the Staytrem bridge and tremolo arm kit.
    I had a great result in this and have zero tuning issues.

  • @Dave_Sacca
    @Dave_Sacca Před 5 lety +9

    Dan, that closing chordal jam you did at the end was outstanding!!! I would sleep overnight in front of the box office, just to get front row for that tune. There where 2 Jazzmasters in this video, and one of them was wearing glasses!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 5 lety +3

      hahaha, ah, cheers mate, that's very kind. Come to the gig on Thursday, i'll do an impromptu chord ting for you ;)

  • @adamwasthefirstman
    @adamwasthefirstman Před 5 lety +4

    I've had a 64 American reissue for 13 years and it's the only guitar I've never modified. Other than the bridge. Put a Mastery bridge on it for sure. I promise. Seriously the best recording guitar I own. Try it with a JTM 45 and a Vox, and it will take fx and various drives better than anything on earth. I always come back to it. Happy to watch you guys fall in love!

  • @41DegreesSouth
    @41DegreesSouth Před 5 lety +4

    Kurt Vile recently taught me to love the Jazzmaster, but I was fine not owning one till this video :o

  • @gnerd99
    @gnerd99 Před 5 lety +11

    #Jazzmaster
    I’m not sure why so many people get confused by the separate rhythm circuit and don’t know what to do with it. I find it has a nice thick woody tone that works great with fuzz pedals for rhythm sounds and I use it in a number of ways: to have a contrasting rhythm in the lead sound with the lead circuit being brighter, to reduce the volume on one channel when using a fuzzface type pedal so you can have a quick transition between breakup and full on crunch, or to have a quick mute or toggle/ gate effect. Also contrasting tone control setting between circuits gives you woolly vs. crisp. It gives you a wider pallete and a few useful live options. Just wish it was a big toggle switch as it’s a bit hard to grab quickly.

    • @roscoefoofoo
      @roscoefoofoo Před 9 měsíci

      Agreed, gnerd99! It's a very useful, fun part of the great range that a Jazzmaster offers.

    • @JsnHgl
      @JsnHgl Před 8 měsíci

      Well said

  • @jimspinner9030
    @jimspinner9030 Před 5 lety +115

    Leave it stock and embrace it...

    • @RobertNolan
      @RobertNolan Před 5 lety +6

      Only upgrade should be an AVRI tremolo assembly. The lack of a sliding lock is almost criminal to its nearly perfect presentation.

    • @RobertNolan
      @RobertNolan Před 5 lety

      @kevin paul halliday while I agree that it's very popular, it is one which I believe ultimately depends on string gauge and playing style.

    • @rollingon5566
      @rollingon5566 Před 4 lety

      Well, I'd add one of those roller things to the bridge so it isn't mad hard for me to play

  • @Guitaural.
    @Guitaural. Před 5 lety +35

    Ha! Mick's inner SRV is never very far away...gets a new color and then thinks "let's make it sound like a Strat!" : )

  • @mattholliday208
    @mattholliday208 Před 5 lety +2

    Guitar sounds beautiful!! There’s something special about that middle position too. The chime it gives with my AC30 is so one of the coolest sounds! And the bridge pickup makes it absolutely scream!

  • @robertbecker6903
    @robertbecker6903 Před 5 lety

    Finally!!!!😃 I‘ve been waiting so long for this! I wish you a lot of fun with the Jazz. After 15 years of playing the world opened up for me when I got mine. And it is Surf Green as well! 😃😃😃 I am looking forward to see it again on the show and very excited how you get along with different pot values. Cheers from Germany!

  • @andtrea.
    @andtrea. Před 5 lety +5

    Jazzmaster owner here! Check out Curtis Novak pickups, especially the JM-V neck : highly recommended!

  • @zachmatchem
    @zachmatchem Před rokem +4

    If I’m not mistaken, the 1 Meg pots were chosen when flatwound strings were standard. They’re supposed to be much darker strings, which is why the 1 Meg pots were chosen to brighten them up. Once you put modern roundwound strings on, the 1 Meg pots become far too shrill.

  • @darwinsaye
    @darwinsaye Před 5 lety +2

    I could have used this excellent demo a year ago when I was trying to decide between my first Tele or my first Jazzmaster (went with the Tele and I'm super pleased I did). All the comparison videos I found at the time really did not demo the sound of it very well at all. You guys nailed it.

  • @NatedogsYouchoob
    @NatedogsYouchoob Před 5 lety +2

    My Goodness that explains so much! I have the exact same Jazz and have tried 3 different sets of pickups and never been happy with the tone, always painful high end! Now I'll look at changing the pots. Exciting cos it is one of the fun guitars to play.

  • @pierresauve8612
    @pierresauve8612 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm so excited for this. I have a jazzy and to be honest its such a unique sound that i cant wait until you both dive deep with drives since it reacts so differently.

  • @EdPettersen
    @EdPettersen Před 5 lety +5

    Love, love, love my Jazzmaster (and my Novelli custom offsets, I have two). Definitely put a Staytrem or Mastery bridge on it. I have a MIM Fender JM and it's surprisingly great with a few mods (and 500k pots). Cheers guys!

  • @ashrafimaduddin8162
    @ashrafimaduddin8162 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you for doing this video! Love you guys and definitely love Jazzmasters x

  • @michaelgreen5206
    @michaelgreen5206 Před 2 lety +1

    Just got a MIM TVL Jazzmaster and am totally blown away by how great this guitar sounds!!!! The setup from Sweetwater was spot on!!! The only minor adjustment had to make was getting the tuning stabilized when tremolo is engaged Vs. tremolo locked-out, and it was easy-peasy!

  • @francisgori5631
    @francisgori5631 Před 5 lety +3

    Hey boys,
    Congratulations on the Jazzmaster!
    I’ve built myself 2 lefty Jazzmasters, and love them!
    Couple of potential tips, the Mastery bridge is AMAZING for functionality and keeping the strings seated properly! Although there is Staytrem, that I believe is made in the UK... and has a phenomenal reputation- also a bit cheaper.
    Another idea... the rhythm circuit is great for use with a fuzz (especially germanium), just set up a clean tone on the rhythm circuit- and now the normal circuit is an explosion into immediate fuzz madness at the flip of a switch!!!!
    Just some thoughts for you boys... enjoy your foray into offset magnificence!!!!!!!

  • @max12fisher
    @max12fisher Před 5 lety +7

    I have the same jazzmaster but the newer version with pay Ferro fretboard. Absolutely amazing! I swapped out the bridge for a mustang bridge and the tuners for vintage looking locking tuners. It’s my #1 for sure

    • @max12fisher
      @max12fisher Před 5 lety

      I like to use a compressor with it, brings in the high end

  • @grandudetonesnob7107
    @grandudetonesnob7107 Před 5 lety +1

    Yes, Mick. I have a jazzmaster, and I DEFINITELY do "that"thing! Thanks for bringing out the jazzmaster mates!

  • @joek81981
    @joek81981 Před 5 lety +2

    21:54 thee best "noise" I've ever heard on a guitar.

  • @jaredmclaughlin5256
    @jaredmclaughlin5256 Před 5 lety +6

    Some of the best playing I've heard from Dan in a while.. I think it suits you.

  • @mrdanjames
    @mrdanjames Před 5 lety +5

    Sending out love for Timmy! Still my favourite drive ever.

  • @ahhcrickets
    @ahhcrickets Před 5 lety +2

    You guys nailed it. Great episode! I’ve been a JM player for over a decade now and rolling off or adjusting the tone gives me a wide variety of sounds in fender land especially with some overdriven or fuzzy sounds. I had some work done on my ‘61 and my luthier put 250k pots in to replace some junk that was in there. I really lost a lot of “something” and went back to the 1 megs.
    Darker amps are preferable as well. I’ve heard a few people say that they tried JM and didn’t like it, but I honestly think it employs a different sort of focus that is counter intuitive for some players because you are in fact combating treble a lot of the time.
    If you’re looking to give that guitar a good upgrade a mastery bridge is a really exceptional choice. You notice a vast improvement even acoustically. Also the Seymour Duncan Antiquity 1 pickup is a pretty spot on replica of the late 50’s to early 60’s sounds.

  • @gabrielledebourg2487
    @gabrielledebourg2487 Před 5 lety +2

    Wonderful video and wonderful guitar! I have a Jazzmaster myself, but funnily enough with P90s (but in Jazzmaster size) and it is just a wonderful guitar. Always inspiring and fun to play: and so comfortable!

  • @WhatsUpWhitey
    @WhatsUpWhitey Před 5 lety +8

    1. Love how you waited to play it for an honest reaction to the guitar!
    2. Thanks for continuing to introduce me to new gear.
    3. Great to see you pull out pedals that aren’t the new designs from time to time. IE-BB Preamp

  • @SeanMRoberts
    @SeanMRoberts Před 5 lety +18

    I love the 1 meg pots in jazzmasters. It give you a wonderfully useable range in the tone knob. Granted I am admittedly on the neck pickup most of the time on my guitars.

    • @lucianodebenedictis6014
      @lucianodebenedictis6014 Před 5 lety

      Yeah, I've never tried one but in theory it keeps more top end that you can then roll of with the tone

    • @SeanMRoberts
      @SeanMRoberts Před 5 lety +1

      I also run a treble bleed in it and use a vox amp so maybe I am just into treble.

  • @MsSimonsunburst
    @MsSimonsunburst Před 5 lety +2

    I've played them all. 15 years ago I found the Jazzmaster could do everything. I've never looked back. :)

  • @altaylor9186
    @altaylor9186 Před 5 lety +2

    Hey guys love the Jazzzmaster! Ive got the am. Pro. Silverburst with ebony fretboard and i love it ! The sounds from this guitar is amazing! Keep it up u guys r great love your show !

  • @SISPX
    @SISPX Před 5 lety +5

    Yes!! the only guitar you'll ever need!! 😍

  • @bluelane
    @bluelane Před 5 lety +4

    Thnk u for the comparisons with tele and strat! Lovely jm congrats.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 5 lety +1

      You are the only person to say that. Thank you! Most people are considering jumping off a cliff because we're going to change the pots. Hilarious!

  • @jarofkla
    @jarofkla Před 5 lety +1

    That is my exact guitar! I got mine as a floor model for $700. Love the tonal options. I utilize the lead and rhythm circuits for 4 quick switching options. I set the lead tone knob at 7 or 8 for a nice non abrasive treble. I also replaced the bridge saddle with a mustang. Thanks for including us 80s guitar worshipers. This my Shoegaze guitar. 😁

  • @Jaundice__
    @Jaundice__ Před rokem +2

    Loved that bit at the end Dan played, subbed.

  • @CasperHoegh
    @CasperHoegh Před 5 lety +3

    Nice! I own a CIJ jazzmaster in surf green with matching head stock. So very similar. Such a great guitar. I instantly get inspired when I pick it up, but its funny how its in a slightly different way than usual. I play differently playing my jazzmaster, like it wants me to do something else. Looked like you guys sort of had the same experience. And yes, it is bright as hell. My go -to-tone on this guitar is the tone rolled back to around six and I almost never use the bridge pickup on its own, and when I do, its together with a fuzzpedal. Anyway, bla, bla, bla. Congrats!

  • @ccombs2666
    @ccombs2666 Před 5 lety +10

    Your guitar do what you need, but changing the pots may defeat some of the purpose. They cut me in half but they are a tool and have a place. Neck PU + fuzz = amazing.

  • @DonSlesnickIII
    @DonSlesnickIII Před 5 lety +1

    I have the same guitar, color and all. It joined my family a few years ago and is played and enjoyed so very much. After a few months of performances, and as others have suggested, I upgraded to the Mastery Bridge -- huge difference in keeping the strings in the saddles. This past Christmas, I switched the pickups to Curtis Novak Wide-Range Humbuckers which are fantastic!! They keep much of the same surf/trebble tone in the middle position but add a bit of mid/warmth in the neck and add some fullness to the bridge. As much as I liked the original pickups, the hum was killing me. ENJOY IT!

  • @EmeraldStargazer
    @EmeraldStargazer Před 2 měsíci

    This was my first ever Jazzmaster that served as my main guitar for many years and it's one of those guitars I miss terribly after selling. To this day I still chase that neck/middle position sound that this guitar had.

  • @Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55
    @Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 Před 5 lety +51

    You see why a lot of Indie bands use them and shoegaze bands and whatnot. People call them Hipster guitars and dismiss them but really, it's not just about image, these kind of bands use them for the reasons you hear in this video, they're just perfect for that kind of thing.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 5 lety +5

      Imagine Sonic Youth without their Jazzmasters...unthinkable!

    • @rollingon5566
      @rollingon5566 Před 4 lety +3

      @@mattgilbert7347 I can think of that easily I reckon, especially for Lee not so much for Thurston

  • @klontart
    @klontart Před 5 lety +7

    I own the same guitar, love it, learned to deal with the treble by actually using the Tone pot. ;)
    The bridge position is something special. You’ll have to tweak your amp, but once done, really good stuff, and very unlike a Strat or Tele.

  • @danielgrubb9496
    @danielgrubb9496 Před 5 lety +1

    This was excellent in every way. So interesting to see you guys find something genuinely new and take a step into uncharted territory. I am inspired.

  • @distortion_plus
    @distortion_plus Před 5 lety +2

    Great work, I love my Jazzmaster! Great vid - A/B tests are what it’s all about, that’s how you really know what things sound like - play one then the other 👍

  • @dariusliadon
    @dariusliadon Před 5 lety +4

    This is gonna be a great new color on your pallet of tones, can't wait to see more of it! Also, that A/DA flanger? I want to hear more of that one, maybe side by side with the Longamp Roxanne. Good flangers are far and few between and this one sounds great!

  • @lowdefal6306
    @lowdefal6306 Před 5 lety +4

    The offset Trem is amazing when it's set up right. You just need to treat it as its own thing. It's at its best when being used slowly and steadily.

  • @murfmurphy6212
    @murfmurphy6212 Před 5 lety +1

    Great playing on this one guys. Good to see the BB Preamp get an outing...Im learning about delay textures every time Dan gets going on a clean delay tone

  • @simonguitarguy9902
    @simonguitarguy9902 Před 5 lety +1

    Great Guitar wow!! Also I have the Xotic BB Preamp and its my favourite drive, so stoked it made it onto the show!!

  • @stagnatic
    @stagnatic Před 5 lety +3

    Great guitar, enjoy (did a JM build with a 60s Lacquer Series body, Musikraft neck, Fender Pure Vintage pickups, and it is an outstanding all around instrument). Only thing I’d add to this episode is playing it through some great amp tremolo.

  • @Moka8
    @Moka8 Před 5 lety +3

    What I do on my Jazzmasters is I adjust the pickup height so that the treble side is a little bit further down. It helps even out the top end.

  • @ionfarmer
    @ionfarmer Před 5 lety +1

    There is so much to love about this episode, but -- the differentiation between Sea Foam and Surf greens was life changing for me. I have been burnt out on Sea Foam type greens due to years in submarine service and it's predominant use in the nuclear engineering department environment, but Surf green and classic American cars is something I can get behind. Thank you for changing my perspective.

  • @BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar

    I adore my Squire J Mascis JM! The pickup tone is astonishingly amazing. Just flip the switch and bam! Country, flip it again and bam! Blues, Once more and BAM! rock.

  • @Sal-tripin
    @Sal-tripin Před 5 lety +5

    i love the 1m pots they make it so you can actually use the tone knob without getting to muddy..

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 5 lety

      If you want it less muddy, change the value of the tone cap.

  • @devinknegt1464
    @devinknegt1464 Před 5 lety +28

    Very cool, just needs a mastery bridge
    *the pickups in the classic series jm are very bright seymour duncan antiquites are more representative of an old one

    • @camronme917
      @camronme917 Před 5 lety

      im pretty certain the classics have AVRI pickups?, ill admit the antiquites are very cool but a tad too boxy for me

    • @vw9659
      @vw9659 Před 5 lety +3

      It's a Classic 60s lacquer. Same pickups as in the AV65.

    • @camronme917
      @camronme917 Před 5 lety

      @@vw9659 haha yea thats what i thought

    • @devinknegt1464
      @devinknegt1464 Před 5 lety +2

      Yep they are(i have set) they sound great but they are brighter the vintage jazzmasters

    • @garethware
      @garethware Před 5 lety +2

      I have this guitar and put some Seymour Duncan Antiquity 2s in. Seem to cope with the Jazz top end in a far more pleasing way. Would recommend (and a staytrem)

  • @fergadelics
    @fergadelics Před 5 lety +2

    Dan’s smile has never been so infectious. Great way to start my day. Thanks

  • @davidsisbarro1501
    @davidsisbarro1501 Před 5 lety +2

    I made my rhythm circuit a series/parallel switch and I love it.

  • @austinlsepulvado
    @austinlsepulvado Před 5 lety +8

    Gonna throw in an unpopular opinion with my vote for the stock bridge!
    Mastery and Staytrem both sound fantastic, but the original bridge has individual adjustable saddles, which if set up correctly keeps it in the Strat family in terms of response and attack, which is where I like it personally.
    I’ve had a Staytrem on my Jags and Jazzers, and while it can fix stability issues, you aren’t able to tweak the action string to string with the fixed radius bridge. I also find the response to lose a little snap with a Mustang style bridge. Not a bad thing, just different.
    I’ve also had Mastery bridges on my offsets, and while they are fantastic bridges that increase or “improve” the fullness and resonance from the guitar, for me they take some of the “Fender” out of the sound of the guitars. Again, not saying this is a bad thing at all, it’s just different. The bridge is no longer rocking, and really changes the feel and response of the original design of the floating trem arm.
    Regardless, it’s awesome to see an offset on the show and look forward to seeing its journey in your capable hands!

    • @xtheory
      @xtheory Před 2 lety

      Leo’s original design for the JM bridge was to allow it to rock a little to give the vibrato some additional magic. I feel that’s lost when you switch to a bridge that doesn’t rock at all. Trick I found was to use 10-11’s on my JM and make sure the neck pitchback angle was correct with maple shims.

  • @52Tele
    @52Tele Před 5 lety +10

    Its about time someone makes a video on car colors and guitar colors

  • @cocooreo100
    @cocooreo100 Před 5 lety +1

    I literally just ordered a warmoth guitar build that's a jazzmaster in seafoam green! So cool to see this come out.

  • @Thebarnster1
    @Thebarnster1 Před 5 lety +2

    I am SO here for this!

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video. Made me think how you don't always have to spend mega bucks for a great instrument. Thank you for the reminder. Cheers!

  • @jonnorris419
    @jonnorris419 Před 5 lety +3

    An episode on surf guitar would be great, getting that 60s tone especially with the recent passing of dick dale , good work fellas 👌

  • @JasonM96
    @JasonM96 Před 5 lety +2

    Dan's tones at the 20-minute mark reminded me of The War on Drugs, which is fitting since Adam Granduciel plays a Jazzmaster a good amount and routinely uses reverb. A lovely sound.

  • @Evy-1988
    @Evy-1988 Před 5 lety +2

    this video shows Dan in his happy place and it's such a joy to watch and listen to

  • @michaelkay611
    @michaelkay611 Před 5 lety +3

    I can hear why people change the pots, though I might not conclude that based on the first 10 minutes of playing it. In a band all that high end might come in handy. And going into drive it's quite a bit different, like having the treble boost built into the guitar. I'm training myself to get used to sounds that may be harsh or somehow not ideal when I'm playing alone because often those same sounds are fantastic in a band mix, as you gents have often discussed.
    I'm finding with my Strat that the 25.5 scale length is getting tougher for me as I age - I'm a small guy with small hands. Maybe someday I'll get acquainted with a Jaguar.

  • @colinedmunds2238
    @colinedmunds2238 Před 5 lety +4

    Check the pickups to see if they’re truly the “wide/shallow” design. Most stock JM pickups are basically overwound strat pickups these days. You can get more vintage styled ones from Novak and Lollar and even Seymore Duncan.
    Not sure why fender started changing them, but I believe it started with the Japanese built JMs it n the 90s

  • @PoJoWo
    @PoJoWo Před 5 lety +2

    Interesting thing about these pickups is that in shaping the coil the way he did the inductance goes up, though not quite to the same degree as a p90 as it has the alnico poles rather than steel screws. Steel poles increase eddy currents which flatten the pickups response, or lower its Q. Something else that lowers the response and Q of a pickup is lower value pots. Hence the combination of alnico poles and big pots really make these peaky. But they are what they are. My biggest issue with the bigger pots is increased series resistance when turning down which really darkens things, so these are a good candidate for treble bleed experiments. The one upside of the pot size is that they tend to magnify the fuzz pedal clean up effect. Something in everything as they say. Cool episode. Take care guys.

  • @ampoll88
    @ampoll88 Před 5 lety

    Yes!!! I’ve been eagerly awaiting this video! Looks and sounds great! Currently building a Warmoth Sherwood Green Jazzmaster with Mastery bridge and vibrato and Seymour Duncan Antiquity I’s. Cheers!

  • @Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55
    @Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 Před 5 lety +7

    Change the pots to 500k and put a Staytrem Bridge on it and call it a day. Well, i don't even mind the stock pots, but for these kind of videos 500k would be better. The Staytrem bridge is just as good as the Mastery, plus it's much cheaper and easier to get in the UK. Also, i always think Jazzmasters are better with the volume rolled back a tiny bit. It tames the highs a bit and still sounds great.

  • @henrylueken
    @henrylueken Před 5 lety +3

    Another thing to try is to put flat wounds on them! I have a 2017 jazzmaster 65 reissue that I bought last summer and it sounds amazing with flat wounds. It also is what Leo Fender made the guitar for back in the day (or so I have heard). Also the volume pot is incredibly adjustable with just turning it down which can really take that bite away.
    Also I love the rhythm circuit on my guitar but I can understand the hate it gets. With flat wounds and rhythm circuit on it is really a jazz master.
    Love the guitar. I hope you guys enjoy it!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 5 lety

      Aha. Flatwounds explains the 1meg pots perfectly! Thank you - knew there had to be a reason! Mick here.

    • @ForeverChillMan
      @ForeverChillMan Před 5 lety

      Thanks for the flatwounds info, I'm gonna try them out! Mark Spears from Khruangbin also uses flatwounds, but on his modified stratocaster and i absolutely love his tone and approach to playing.

    • @henrylueken
      @henrylueken Před 5 lety

      @@ForeverChillMan Yeah I have just recently discovered Mark Spears and really love his tone! I think flat wounds really work on jazzmasters as they warm up the tone but still keep the overall characteristic of the guitar intact. If you want that bright tone you can get by playing the strings harder but at normal levels of strumming it mellows it out considerably.

    • @henrylueken
      @henrylueken Před 5 lety

      @@ThatPedalShow Glad to help! It was a big difference when I first got the guitar and it had normal 7s on it. I thought it was overly bright coming off a Gibson Les Paul being my only electric for 10 years. I still loved the overall characteristic of the Jazzmaster when I first got it but putting on 11 flat wounds made it really shine.
      Also a staytrem bridge is fantastic for keeping the guitar in tone and keeping the strings from buzzing against the bridge. For 60 pounds (90 dollars for us Americans) it is well worth the investment and they don't look as ugly as the mastery bridges or cost as much. It is just too bad they stopped shipping to the US recently due limited stock but they still accepted orders from UK.

  • @WarHero56
    @WarHero56 Před 5 lety

    Don't change the pots! You were spot on about using the insane treble to power through mud. I actually run my jazzy through a tube screamer with the treble dimed when I use the big muff

  • @thepopuluxe
    @thepopuluxe Před 5 lety +1

    The minute I plugged in my Jazzmaster build, I thought “why on earth have I never owned one of these before??!” They’re the perfect guitar for me - nuanced, explosive, perfectly expressive, AND nothing else quite nails that surf sound like the Jazzmaster.

  • @michaelgreen5206
    @michaelgreen5206 Před 2 lety +3

    That rhythm circuit is used to toggle quickly between rhythm playing /circuit and lead playing circuit, and as Dan demonstrated can be used as a kill switch. The rhythm circuit sounds heavenly especially when using a fuzz effect. BTW, would never change the Ohm resistance of the pots as this will kill the Jazzmaster mojo, imo!!!!!

  • @fossilmatic
    @fossilmatic Před 5 lety +4

    You KNOW what this calls for..... THAT (how you use this) GUITAR SHOW!!

  • @jonathankrieger9121
    @jonathankrieger9121 Před 5 lety +2

    I think you guys are helping me to improve my english. In my last english examen I found myself writing like Dan ususally decribes some weird detail of a pedal circuit.
    Nice videos by the way!
    Greetings from germany

  • @pedalscapes
    @pedalscapes Před 5 lety +1

    Yeah! Some awesome sounds towards the end there - Mick at the controls...

  • @T.H.W.O.T.H
    @T.H.W.O.T.H Před 5 lety +5

    Don't change the pots guys! Listen to Dan's interlude at 20:00 and tell us that's not perfect. Blimey, look at the grin on his face. You can't take that away from him. :D
    The JM is it's own beast - you have to learn how to coax it into submission, but when you do you'll find you get it back in spades.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 5 lety +1

      We'll never play it if it stays as is. Or at least Dan won't!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 5 lety +1

      Mick here. Nels Cline uses lower value pots. That's everything I need to know. :0)

    • @alexstrahle4650
      @alexstrahle4650 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThatPedalShow I've come to love the 1 megs in my '59

    • @ryanhdmc
      @ryanhdmc Před 3 lety +1

      It’s probably been too long, and the change is done but vintage style nickel strings also help tame the high end nicely.

  • @schizo910
    @schizo910 Před 5 lety +3

    I've owned this same guitar for quite some time now. First thing i did was replace the bridge for a mustang bridge. After a while I tried a treble bleed, but took it out. I'm gonna try 500k pots now. I love how it plays, it's form, the pick ups... absolutely love it.
    The thing is, a guitar is a tool you can change stuff to to make it your own. People who are saying not to change it don't get it, imho. I bet that your guitar and mine guitar sounded different straight out the box though they are essentialy the same. That's the deal with all guitars, they all have their own individual,character. So, what ís the purpose of a guitar? What IS the purpose of a Jazzmaster? According to the people who say you shouldn't change it because you are, say, de-jazzmastering it. Please go out, take your stock Jazzmaster and go play only Jazz on it, cause THAT's what it's purpose truly was...
    the purpose of a guitar, ANY guitar is to play music on it, make it your own, make it suit you... make it YOURS!

  • @djillogika
    @djillogika Před 5 lety +1

    I gutted the wiring of my Jaguar and replaced it with Tele style wiring - 250k pots, 0.047uf tone cap and 4-way pickup switch. Also converted the circuit toggle to a phase switch which yields some interesting tones. Finally was able to tame the high end enjoy playing that guitar 😀

  • @houseofshred3725
    @houseofshred3725 Před 5 lety

    Gorgeous guitar, guys! You both sound great playing it. I inherited a '61 in tobacco sunburst as a kid (I'd rather have my Uncle but that's a different story) and have always had a soft spot for Jazzmasters. It's really great to see you guys playing one. CHEERS!