A Year of Persimmon Trees: My Persimmon Dreams Have Come True
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- čas přidán 3. 01. 2024
- The video presents an array of persimmon trees ranging from their 3rd to 8th growing season, showcasing a diverse range of varieties yielding hundreds of fruits. Notably, the early-ripening Prok and prolific Celebrity persimmons take the spotlight, demonstrating resilience and fruitful growth even in conditions with limited sunlight. In contrast, Asian persimmon varieties, while generally less productive, are favored for their larger size, making them ideal candidates for drying purposes.
Moving on to overcoming challenges and optimizing production, the video highlights the efficacy of summer pruning in enhancing fruit output on the Rosseyanka tree, overcoming previous struggles with hormonal imbalances. The narrative also addresses the impact of storms and the weight of heavy yields, emphasizing the importance of meticulous tree management to prevent broken branches. Valuable preservation techniques, such as freezing persimmons following Michael McConkey's recommendation, are introduced, along with a focus on the traditional hoshigaki drying method, underscored as the preferred approach for preserving the distinct flavors of Asian persimmon varieties.
Intro & Persimmon Love (00:01): Dive into the world of persimmons with this updated video, exploring the joys of growing and enjoying persimmons at home.
Early Birds & Productive Persimmons (01:35): Discover the early-ripening Prok and the bountiful Celebrity Persimmons, both thriving in their fourth or fifth seasons.
Shade Tolerance Champions (04:02): Witness Gwang Yang persimmons with their moderate fruit set and learn about the persimmon tree's remarkable ability to tolerate shade.
Rosseyanka's Comeback: Summer Pruning (05:17): Witness a Rosseyanka tree overcoming hormonal issues with the help of summer pruning, leading to increased fruit production.
Freeze Your Persimmons! (07:38): Learn the valuable tip of freezing persimmons for later use, as recommended by Michael McConkey of EdibleLandscaping.
Broken Branches (10:14): Get an update on Asian persimmons and their lower productivity, and see how storms have impacted other fruit trees in the garden.
Summer Pruning Pays Off (14:11):
Ross reveals a successful summer pruning technique that transformed his Rosseyanka tree from shy-fruiting to heavily laden.
Science of Hormones (15:26):
Understanding the balance between fruit and growth helps explain why summer pruning promotes fruit production.
Dating App for Persimmons (18:06):
Playing a numbers game in regards to persimmon fruit drop
Hoshigaki (22:02):
Ross shares his preferred method for enjoying Asian persimmons - drying them in the traditional hoshigaki style.
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Ive had fuyu for over 20 years. Right now, I have nearly 300 trees. Most are just 1 year old. We had a 3 day storm in Alabama of 72 hours below freezing down in the teens at night and it killed many of my big trees and happened after march when trees had budded out. Before that event id harvest many many 5 gal buckets of fruit per tree. 3 fruits averaged 1 pound and I'd sell them for $30 a bucket. I dry a lot of mine and they last up to 2 years in ziplock bags in storage. I wish i knew more about them. I just roll my profits into more trees and irrigation systems. They are fantastic and easy to grow and until that spring cold snap i rarely lost a tree. The biggest thing is to pull off a lot of fruit in thinning or your limbs will snap off from the weight. I leave 1 fruit every 6 inches
I had a Jiro that dropped all its fruitlets every year for almost ten years after putting it in the ground, then suddenly last year it carried about 300 fruit to maturity. Watching it closely this year.
Been waiting for this video. Thanks for posting
I've been looking forward to some new persimmon videos!
Hi Ross this video is very informative and helpful . I also have a rosseyanka and super excited to see it fruit in the coming years. Thanks again for your time buddy.
I pre ordered a meader persimmon this fall. mainly chose meader due to availability, but the variety also came out of New Hampshire which is close to me. Cant wait to grow this plant.
Prok and celebrate are varieties I never heard of I have to look them up Happy New Year
Thanks for this video. You have so many varieties. I love your channel... love so much persimmons ... and figs!
Thank you!
Prok, Nikita’s gift, and 100-46 are mine.🎉
Orin Martin teaches Summer pruning. He mentioned that it gets fruit trees to grow fruit spurs years faster than if you didn’t Summer prune.
Persimmon pudding is my favorite. Freeze the pulp and then make the pudding later. I used to ask my grandmother for persimmon pudding each year for my birthday instead of cake. Yum.
Trust me, you have a lot more than 300 fruitlets on that tree currently. And yes, cutting up and freezing works well for things like smoothies. For Jiro at least, I had to be careful about how I thawed them for use in cereals and stuff. They don’t have the same texture, but are still sweet and relatively firm if I don’t overheat when thawing. Get them up to room temp or a little below, and use immediately.
Love the video Ross. Couldn't agree more that sometimes you just got to try something new and take the risk to see if you can get some pay off. That's always been very difficult for me because I like to play things safe and do a lot of research to make the right choices but in gardening particularly these more exotic fruits there really isn't extensive research and you just got to make the best decision you can. I got my first 2 persimmons this summer and planted them in mid-September. Two 5 gallon Miss Kim persimmons from edible landscaping. I knew I wanted Asian type astringent dwarf that could survive in my climate zone 7B Edgewater Maryland. My best son area was in my front yard so I also wanted something with good full foliage and Miss Kim was definitely a standout with beautiful red leaves this fall. Miss Kim seems to fit the bill pretty well but I guess only time will tell.
Best sun*, fall foliage*
I started into grafted persimmons with Prok. Got some wood from a friend and stuck it on some wild trees.
I don't really care for the wild ones, but Prok is sweet and delicious. We added 'Wonderful', Prok x HKD, Nikita's gift and Kasandra and I am here hoping to hear about a few one them.
A big plant (tree)very sweet only thrive-well ,when planted in soil.Can get it from Turkey,Japan may be from Spain ,Southern Italy too.
Thanks for sharing. amazing info!
U gotta get a good cam that focuses well as you move. latest cellphone cameras are better nowadays! id love to see 4k details
Great video. Could you provide a link to the commercial summer pruning video your friend sent you?
We found a wild Viginiana that has a distinct Orange flavor. Amazing. I have it's location marked for sure. I'm really sorry that so many of your branches broke. That really hurts
It's all good!
Sounds like a promising seedling.
Jiro is delicious fresh.
Great stuff, thank you for sharing, Ross!
My pleasure!
Bro needs to do some more aggressive pruning with that density of planting
I grow Fuyu out in Delco, and it puts out tons of fruit and behaves pretty similar to your Jiro. Do you have to compete with squirrels on harvesting your persimmons when they start to ripen? Also have you tried to propagate any of the varieties you currently have?
I trap the squirrels in my neighborhood. It's the only way. I have grafted a couple trees.
I used to live in Delco. It’s devastating how many squirrels out there. They devouring everything you grow
Can you please recommend 2 or 3 varieties for zone 7a?
How can you handle all those fruit tree during the start of the season? Do you spray any insecticide?
Thanks for the video. I planted a young persimmon tree this spring. Now the leafs are curled with their edges burned (brown). I don’t see aphis or any other insects. I have applied some fungicides but it doesn’t seem to help. Do you know what could be the issues? Thanks!
How's your tree doing? Do you think maybe it got sun shock?
@@neocaridaniel8220 Not sure. It doesn't do well but still alive. It doesn't seem it's something to do with insects. Most of its leafs stay curled (not healthy looking). Hope it will survive its first year. Thanks for the followup.
Hello, do you need more then 1 Persimmon tree for them to Pollenate.
Thank you 👍🏻
Only some do. Do your research before buying.
Is there a persimmon variety that is container friendly? Thanks.
The Asian persimmons make great container plants.
Hi Ross! Which variety would you recommend for American persimmon for zone 7a? I was eyeing Prok for a long time, but reading a few comments like 'it's rather bland' is making me indecisive. What's your take on hybrids compared to American astringent like say Nikita's gift, which seems popular amongst persimmon enthusiasts? Any input is appreciated.
Those comments are wrong. It's far from bland. Don't trust whoever said that.
Hybrids are meant for growers in cold climates. In zone 5 and 6. They combine the American's hardiness with the Asian's size and eating quality. If I was in those zones, I would grow one to make hoshigaki every year.
@@RossRaddi I have also read comments on some fruit forums some people claiming Prok was bland. The discussion I read had two camps, half saying it was bland, half saying it was amazing. Some people were guessing maybe the tree takes a few years to produce good tasting fruit. Others were thinking maybe there were actually two different varieties being sold wrongly under the same name.
It can happen. Fruit trees to get mislabeled and some nurseries are not as judicious as others.
I am doing a Persimmon (and home orchard) journey in general. I have Ichi Ki Kei Jiro and Prok planted. I will be acquiring an Izu and Nikita's Gift and I am going to try grafting 100-46, Mikkusu, and Zima Khurma. I wanted a little of everything. Non astringent, American, and Hybrids. From what I saw, astringent Asians didn't seem worth it as American has better fresh eating and hybrids have decent size for drying as well as better taste (if not as good as American).
@@LC-wv7tz I have several Prok trees and one produces fruit that is much better than the others.
It's fantastic, never astringent. I have one Prok that is often astringent, so I can't always count on that tree. I don't know why. They are all from the same cuttings going onto wild trees.
Which persimmon has best taste, least amnt of issues, etc... astringent vs non-astringent? Thanks!
Prok is the best fresh. I talk about this at the end of the video.
@@RossRaddi thank you very much!
With my lack of expertise, I would say Hachiya
I have really been thinking about growing persimmon I just have never eaten them. Im worried about the stringent flavor
Trust me, it's one of the best tasting fruits you can grow.
What the reason your persimmon seedling so big, or why do you waiting so long for grafting?
I've had a few failures on that one.
I graft on top of trees that are wild and sometimes are 10+ years old and 1-1/2" on the trunk size where I cut and work it.
where do you get your persimmon plant from?
He mentions edible landscaping in the video. My guess is there. They have the varieties he talks about here.
@@i5usko Thanks, I must have missed it. I will check it out.
There's quite a few nurseries I recommend: www.figboss.com/post/must-grow-fruit-trees-vines-shrubs-in-a-backyard-orchard
Would you pls explain to me The Summer Burning (if I said it right)? I have the same tree, I would like to do what you have done. Or if you could send me your videos. Where canI fined your VIDEOS? Pls help me.
This is the only video I've got on it. Still nothing on actually performing the technique: czcams.com/video/t7ZmqzUFOpc/video.html
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my Nikita’s gift in full sun fruited in 3 years. i harvested after a few frosts and let them get soft. i didnt find them that sweet at all. the flavor was ok, nothing impressive. maybe it needs a few years or persimmons are not for me.
They are incredibly sweet. Hopefully you have better results this year. For many years I wasn't sure if I liked American persimmons. Each time I tried them, they were fermented and tasted like cleaning products.
@@RossRaddi maybe my tree is still to young. i will give it a few years. im not getting that fig sweetness many describe. i picked and tried them at many stages of ripeness. i know the chalky taste lol. i noticed in some the core would be black like they spoiled or didnt form correct. i still have a few sitting outside all wrinkled up. they are soft not jelly yet.
I have such a hard time with rabbits deer groundhogs and gophers killing my trees and shrubs. I hope they grow back in the spring. Not much left above the graft on 80% of what I planted and cared for. Between them and the caterpillars stinkbugs and slugs I have a hard time getting any fruit at all. Man gardening is rough. I don't know that I will buy replacements. It's such a big time and money investment. I also don't feel that I can find a fruit that holds a candle to strawberries which I have better luck with to a small degree. Of course I do live in zone 6 so it's hard to find things that can take the cold. I think my persimmons will make it but I'm not sure. I was in shock that they even went for my pawpaws as I didn't think anything would eat the vegetation on those. Oh and I also have a horrible bird and rodent problem on top of that. Not to mention the raccoons, skunks, and opossums.