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Komentáře • 83

  • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
    @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Před 2 lety +65

    It's not even just about 'wanting' to drive or not. Some people *can't* drive. Disabilities exist, and car-centric infrastructure is a bold-faced insult to anyone who can't drive due to a disability. You can't just legislate or lobby a blind person's disability away. No amount of political bribery will erase seizures. A company can't pay-raise a vestibular dysfunction into nonexistence. Every single aspect of car dependency is ableist, and it's long past time we started talking about it.

    • @hds66nl29
      @hds66nl29 Před 2 lety +5

      True, the car only attitude puts a lot of people outside society, people who don't want to be left out but are forced out. Sad and inhuman, as a society you should strive for all people to flourish and participate. So glad I live in a coutry that made (forced by public opinion) the change not to be a car infested dystopia.
      czcams.com/video/xSGx3HSjKDo/video.html

    • @MarcelaElviraTimis
      @MarcelaElviraTimis Před 2 lety +4

      You don't even have to be fully blind... 50% is enough to disqualify you from driving in some places... I should know

    • @marlak4203
      @marlak4203 Před 2 lety

      Uh, you can have the car redesigned to carry your motor scooter you can also drive in every way with your hands. I've ridden with a person like that.
      I always think too of the video of the man who drives with his feet since he was born with no hands.

    • @MarcelaElviraTimis
      @MarcelaElviraTimis Před 2 lety +6

      @@marlak4203you missed the op's point... hint: disabilities don't begin and end with absence/loss of limbs or their function. THAT can happen to just about anyone, like obesity, and that's why ableists CAN be bothered to help/accept.

    • @purplegill10
      @purplegill10 Před 2 lety +10

      ​@@marlak4203 As someone who can't drive due to heart problems and fainting, that doesn't help people like us at all. We make up the majority of disability (i.e. not related to missing or non-functional limbs) yet the minority of disability discussions so people get the completely wrong idea of what actually living with a disability looks like. It's just like when people "call out" those who can stand/walk despite being in a wheelchair while missing the point that the MAJORITY of people in wheelchairs CAN walk and stand but the difference is that they can't do it for long periods of time. There's a huge difference between being able to walk to the bathroom or the kitchen to cook something compared to walking around a supermarket for an hour then have to traverse a parking lot that's usually filled with cracks and different ledges you'd have to get around. You can either risk walking and falling or passing out, or you can do the sensible thing and get a wheelchair. The problem is I know more than one person that doesn't ride in a wheelchair anymore purely because they're fucking tired of being "called out" for "not actually being disabled" just because they had the audacity of being able to get up and get something from a high shelf.

  • @helvete983
    @helvete983 Před rokem +17

    Most places in Europe have incredibly efficient and affordable transit systems.

    • @metalvideos1961
      @metalvideos1961 Před 11 měsíci

      dont come to the netherlands then. its far from affordable lol

  • @GerhardMack
    @GerhardMack Před 2 lety +22

    Made a friend from Texas in Spain. After several years in Madrid, he could never go back to Texas and moved to his next locations based on nearby transit.

  • @tay-lore
    @tay-lore Před 11 měsíci +4

    I think most of the things that truckers are hauling should be hauled on rails... but on nationalized rail, with much more robust infrastructure

  • @Luka_Tim
    @Luka_Tim Před 2 lety +41

    It's so weird to me, how NA still have utility lines above ground still.

    • @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
      @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele Před 2 lety +3

      Just came from Not Just Bikes video and just commented the same!

    • @LaPingvino
      @LaPingvino Před 2 lety

      Belgium has that too

    • @hblackburn5580
      @hblackburn5580 Před 2 lety

      In general, the US really is a 2nd world country, but because we're a "super power" that has to put our military everywhere, nobody wants to face that fact.

    • @kefirmroku4494
      @kefirmroku4494 Před rokem

      in Poland, Lithuania, Belarus and Russia we have central heating pipes above ground,
      because they change temperature a lot within a year so they cannot be placed beneath soil or would break.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot Před rokem

      @@kefirmroku4494 That's one hell of a great excuse. Incorrect, but great. Dutch cities that have city heat don't do this, and the temperature difference is similar. Why? Because the right materials were chosen and they get buried deeper so temperature doesn't affect it as much.
      You really do get what you pay for.

  • @Project2457official
    @Project2457official Před 2 lety +14

    I feel this so hard man
    I live in chicago and thankfully haven't dealt with suburbia hellscapes as much but I gotta say I just thought walking in cities was just supposed to be unavoidably dangerous.
    I've been enlightened by Not Just Bikes like you.
    I shouldn't have to stress about crossing a street or be worried about walking around.

  • @autohmae
    @autohmae Před 2 lety +7

    13:25 this is one of my favorite parts of living in the Netherlands.

  • @boelwerkr
    @boelwerkr Před 2 lety +13

    What I'm confused about in the US is the lack of motorcycles in everyday transport. I transitioned from a bicycle to a 50cc two stroke bike when i was 16. I drove it for 8 years in every weather. From -15°C to +39°C between 40 and 80Km a day. It was the cheapest decently fast motorized transport viable. We have a saying here: "There is no bad weather only bad clothes" After that i had enough money to buy a car.

    • @ac1455
      @ac1455 Před 2 lety +2

      Perhaps a lack of places to keep equipment at, like lockers. As they say, “Can’t have shit in Detroit”

    • @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
      @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele Před 2 lety

      Probably you will be run over by a 5 ton pickup...

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Před 2 lety

      That's cool and all, but where did you park your motorcycle? In America, most parking lots only have car-sized parking spaces. Combine that with the fact that some spoiled whiners get all upity if your 'stupid little crotch rocket' is parked in a car-sized parking space. And all that is aside from how hostile car-drivers get toward bicycle-riders AND motorcycle-riders. The sheer 'get off the road' entitlement is ingrained into American social norms. Able-bodied, financially-stable jerks want the roads all to themselves, and anyone who can't live life the way they do can go screw themselves for all they care.

  • @LELIE-
    @LELIE- Před 2 lety +11

    I used to work in that business park over a decade ago. I didn’t have a car, since I was still a student. But that was no problem at all back then either. It already looked good when I worked there, but it looks even better now.

    • @marlak4203
      @marlak4203 Před 2 lety +1

      well there you go.
      This stuff just depends on the mind of the person. The NJB guy just focus' a LOT on how streets and land is laid out vs most other people. I have taken public transit too and had to the very same as he walking to a job. Nowhere near did i have this mindset of the "looks" of a business park and how the streets are designed, etc. I did wish there was MORE sidewalk so that i wouldn't have to walk on uneven rubble and such but other than that I was all about my job and making sure I wasn't late.

    • @LELIE-
      @LELIE- Před 2 lety +1

      @@marlak4203 - I only started to appreciate Dutch infrastructure after I started watching videos from NJB. We take a lot for granted. His videos makes me think more about things like street design.
      For example, yesterday, while waiting for the bus, I was looking at the road the bus would come from and noticed the road wasn’t straight. (There was a little chicane in the road.) They could’ve easily made it straight, but it was probably done on purpose to avoid speeding cars.

    • @marlak4203
      @marlak4203 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LELIE-
      What i notice with the Dutch in the regard of how they do traffic, etc isn't that the prioritize anything over the other but its that they have found a way to BALANCE all forms of transportation. They have decided to try out using all forms of transit and giving each of them a fair share like it was showed in the video. And it has come out wonderfully for them. It can be said that in America there is no balance, infact, probably for most nations, depending on a persons view, that can be said but its just that when it comes to moving people around, so far, the Dutch are good at doing that, which is great.

    • @theultimatereductionist7592
      @theultimatereductionist7592 Před rokem

      @@marlak4203 How arrogant of you to presume you know everybody's particular situation.

    • @dimrrider9133
      @dimrrider9133 Před rokem

      @@marlak4203 Funfact: our country was a swamp and 1/3th is still below sealevel 😆

  • @TheKeystoneChannel
    @TheKeystoneChannel Před 2 lety +17

    looks depressing in North America, not to mention that I used to call business parks in The Netherlands depressing 😳

    • @MiketheNerdRanger
      @MiketheNerdRanger Před 2 lety +7

      Business parks in the Netherlands look like a damn shopping district compared to business parks over here in the USA.

  • @johnmcaleer7099
    @johnmcaleer7099 Před 2 lety +7

    There's that word again
    FREEDOM

  • @DageLV
    @DageLV Před 2 lety +5

    When I applied for work they also needed a driver. I told them I have license but I really don't like driving. I got the job and I drove the work bus 3 times in 2 years, all 3 times were to pick up nearby coworkers so they didn't have to walk that far. But that's off topic.
    American influence is spreading which is worrysome. My brother Is the only person who has repeatedly told me to get a car, to spend my free time hunting extra jobs, and he listens to rap so ofc he hates police even tho he has never been in any sort of confrontation with police other than that one time he was speeding 41kmh over speed limit.
    I've always responded that public transportation works for me, and it's dirt cheap, and my free time is free time. If one job doesn't pay enough, it's not a job worth having, except if the coworkers are good. Then we can organize a some work after work, take stuff from our workspace, go do it, get paid by whomever we worked for, usually more than a days pay for few hours and that's it.
    And cops yeah. They fine. I don't see crime happening, I don't know what cops are doing, might as well be jacking each other off, but I'm fine with it as that works

  • @mandje2002
    @mandje2002 Před 2 lety +3

    12: 42 this is not only in the major cities but all over the country.

  • @mavadelo
    @mavadelo Před 2 měsíci

    I am a Dutchman of 55 years old. I never ever had the need to get a car, heck, I don't even have a licence. I do all my commute in the city by either walking or bycicle, all my commute/travel outside the city (I live in Utrecht, 4th city of the country) by public transport.
    As for the seperate roads. This is true in many places in the Netherlands but certainly not everywhere. The only vehicles allowed on the buslane are busses (obviously), Emergency vehicles (seems obvious to me as well) and taxis (depending on local ordinance). These buslanes tend to have the same color as the cycling lanes. No worries, everyone knows and sees the difference between the two.
    traffic lights: It totally depends on the intersection how the lights work, even the time of day might be a factor. In certain situations bycicle traffic lights might have timers. This is mainly on very busy intersections in larger cities.Although transit will basically always have priority, depending on the time of day, car traffic might get prioritised on certain intersections above cyclists and pedestriians. Or there will be an alternative cycle where cyclists/pedestrians have more often but less overall time to cross.(often at crossings with larger medians). Traffic lights in the Netherlands is by no means "One system to rule them all" but detection driven systems are king in most cases.

  • @hblackburn5580
    @hblackburn5580 Před 2 lety +2

    Our bus routes only run once an hour...

  • @metalvideos1961
    @metalvideos1961 Před 11 měsíci

    in the nethelrands you get free public transport if you are still at college.

  • @bertkassing8541
    @bertkassing8541 Před rokem

    The business park that Jason visited is in Hoofddorp. I live in that place :-) Near Amsterdam.

  • @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands

    bike infrastructure we have COUNTRY WIDE, everything is connected..

  • @HyPnOsS1933
    @HyPnOsS1933 Před 9 měsíci

    Cars are alway in the wrong with any accident to
    So as car driver you have to pay attention to bikes and people who are walking
    If you want to you can walk up any normal road and just walk up on the street no fear

  • @QiuyuanChenRyan916
    @QiuyuanChenRyan916 Před rokem

    Tell the POTUS to cut fund on military first.

    • @dimrrider9133
      @dimrrider9133 Před rokem +1

      creepy joe hahaha hes to busy with ukraine

  • @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands

    Wouldn't like to live in a town with no bike paths... because no freedom = no good business

  • @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands

    Those modern buildings are dead ugly...must be near Amsterdam...

    • @joenuts5167
      @joenuts5167 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I can appreciate well designed modern infrastructure and architecture

  • @marceldevries1366
    @marceldevries1366 Před 2 lety

    Your country is to big .

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před 2 lety +26

      no it's badly designed. That's something completely different. Their are walkable areas in North America because those are older and everything else is bulldozer over and made car-centric. It doesn't have to be the way it is today. Turns out it's cheaper to NOT build such car centric suburbs.

    • @marceldevries1366
      @marceldevries1366 Před 2 lety +2

      @@autohmae i agree also the goverment to blame

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Před 2 lety +8

      @@autohmae A lot of the time, it's automotive and oil lobbyists promoting car-centric design. Plus, most cities are afraid to break the status quo in fear of the motorists being unhappy that people who can't drive are being acknowledged.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před 2 lety +2

      @@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I know it's hard to break out of it now, not denying that at all.

    • @marlak4203
      @marlak4203 Před 2 lety

      America? Yes which is why we have the motor that we do. And it makes sense. You would need something like that to get across it and in a good timely matter. You don't need your time shared with everyone else. There is enough space. All that it really needed is improvement on what is here, NOT trying to make 1 country into another 1. That is wrong, actually.