William is a loyal loving son. His wife Catherine is a classic jewel 💎. Why Charles is allowing Harry and Megan to trash and hurt William pisses me off.
Pisses me off too!! The people of the UK and the Commonwealth are funding this coronation. It is for the people and by the people (or should I say peasants?) and the people are 98% (according to recent polls) not in favour of the Monticeto traitors attending this state event. Wake up Charles. Henry is lost until he reaches rock bottom and humbly admits he needs help.
William is just a big hypocrite. Both Harry and his brother are fake, phoney and don't have a clue what real life is like. Disband the monarchy please, it is so worthless.
It's not a case of "allowing" H&M to trash the family, how can he prevent H from Writing a book ? If he does not invite the gruesome twosome, Critics will say he is being petty. I'm hoping that even they are being invited, they don't come. They should be home on that day anyway giving Archie the birthday party he didn't have last year as H was too busy playing Polo.
I’m a British woman, the same age as Diana would have been , and my heart broke for Harry and his brother the day they followed their mothers coffin, and I along with the rest of the UK rejoiced when we thought he’d found happiness. I despise what he has become.
He’s always been who he is with this behavior we are seeing imo.. I don’t think this behavior is new .. it might be more extreme bc it’s in the public and not contained behind palace doors ..
Rachel I tend to think he has always been the same namely an immature playboy with an exaggerated idea of his own importance .Drink , Drugs and immorality are all he seems to think about because he is too dim to think of anything meaningful.
@@annewalden3795 yes I think you are 💯 correct, I think ironically being part of the institution protected him and we didn’t realise the very selfish entitled person he was.
I am the mother of two grown sons and a grown daughter. I can say that, were I in King Charles' position, I would NOT invite Harry to the coronation. So much is at stake beyond Charles' and Harry's relationship (which is horrible because of Harry and Meghan's words and actions). If Charles goes ahead with making Harry and Meghan welcome to this high profile event, he will be viewed as a very, very weak monarch.
The Royal Family have to act differently to normal families. He has to follow protocol and H is a Prince so needs to be invited because the European Royalty is invited. These two hypocrites may well be there but will have no role. I think it’s taking a lot more strength to remain quiet and dignified in the face of all this abuse. King Charles should be supported in this situation rather than let H&M win with their spite and pettiness
I am also a mother and grandmother, and I believe in allowing them to fall into the hole they've dug for themselves ..Go ahead and show up fools, see that backfire like everything else. Don't run KC3!!!
I’m a parent. And I agree with everything you’ve said. King Charles can love his son. But, that doesn’t mean that he has to continue allowing this abuse and acting like it hasn’t happened. He is KING first and foremost and his duty should be to his people. Sometimes, you have to cut people out of your life and I think this is what the royal family should do. They can’t trust Harry to not sell them out again and again.
Harry reminds me of Fredo from the Godfather. The brother who betrays his family for money. Fredo said, "I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!" Unfortunately, Harry doesn't understand, (because he is so dumb) that as long as he continues to trash his family he will never be respected.
Agree. And, if this is how he has parented Harry, ie no consequences - perhaps it's no wonder he's pushing the boundaries over and over ... he knows he can get his father to roll over.
If you are dealing with an abusive member of your family, it has nothing to do with being unforgiving it is about setting boundaries with the emotional abusers. KC3 needs to set boundaries with H and M.
@@grahamcarrier1580 Even then, he shouldn’t be allowed back. Give him a roof over his head and a minder, but he should NEVER be allowed near the family.
@@minihaha5367 Even then he'd need to be quarantined until the family had absolute independent medical assurance that he'd been completely de-Megahnized!🤣
Hey we all at least had questioned at 1 point or another? Did the Monarch knock Diana? Right? So why not just 😊 This MUST ONLY MEAN One ☝️ thing!! Harry must have some Mega dirty dirt!! There’s no other answer
I’m I just got what u are saying! The fact they are not punished but Andrew is stripped of everything. They have openly criticized the RF! Story and lies everywhere, but no consequences
@@amystuckey5900 that’s what I’m saying! Harry must have some serious dirty dirt on the Family with some kind of a back up plan in place to fry them all alive! How else can he get away with all his blabbing?? Diana hardly did anything wrong, yet predicted her own death! Then Andrew! Something isn’t adding up.
i cant imagine if my siblings wrote a book talking about conversations i had had with them in private, exploiting my grief ect. I wouldnt want anything to do with them ever again.
King Charles has already said that only William will be pledging to the King. That said, the King needs to support the good seeds of the family by NOT inviting the Markles.
I am so glad to hear your views about William. Harry gets most of the attention, while his brother carries on with honor and dignity. This can't be easy to do, but he does it.
I would rather have no attention, then have the reason why Harry is getting the attention! The attention Harry is getting is to see what lie he is going to say next, or what he can do to make him sink any lower.
William has my support more than Charles. I write to King Charles and The Government as I am done if H comes to the Coronation. Charles will be known as King Charles the weak. The Country is tired of this drama. Cut the cord FGS
@@helengunter378 also, harry has put a target on himself and his family by bragging (lying) about killing 25 taliban members. Allowing those two traitors to come puts the coronation in the sights of terrorists. Charles desperately needs to realize that he has ANOTHER son and his family who will be in danger if Harry is anywhere around them during such a public affair that would be such an opportunity for the very people Harry has pissed off. If Charles gives in to the ginger bitch, he is risking not only lives, but the monarchy itself. He will look so weak and a weak leader invites conflict on the world stage. Look at America right now with Biden in office.
If H were to be a commentator, I would hope that FINALLY they would get what they deserve…I.e.the poorest ratings in the station’s entire history. I know I will NEVER listen to H or his wife again. Their voices make me 🤮. And they should be BANNED from England. Period. Neither of them has had any consequences for their deplorable behavior…..ever. Enough, already. 🇺🇸
@@helengunter378 King Charles is a sensitive and kind man who is being placed in a terrible situation. None of us know what is being planned behind closed doors. Don't judge him after a few months he has a lot to deal with and there are grandchildren involved ( who he hasn't automatically given titles to )
Is it only me or do others see the problem when people equate loving someone with approval/acceptance of everything they do no matter how reprehensible it is? As a parent no matter how much you love your children you have to withhold approval/acceptance of behaviour when necessary for their own good.
I genitori devono supportare i propri figli soprattutto nei momenti di difficoltà, esserci sempre ed amarli. Se Il principe Henry ha bisogno , Re Carlo e la Royal family devono aiutarlo. Solo con la misericordia e l'amore si riesce a fare qualcosa. L'odio non porta nulla di buono.‼️
@@raffaellabertoni8507 I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. To illustrate my point. I have children that I have always loved and will always love. If one of my children was a thief for example I would still love that person. I would not support his thieving lifestyle. I would 100% support that childs efforts to stop thieving.
I completely agree. It can be frustrating when people think that love should be absolutely unconditional, no matter what. They expect that if you love them you should accept everything about them, even the damaging parts. Anything short of that isn't good enough. I'm a firm believer in accepting the consequences for your actions. If Charles invites them to the coronation he may jeopardize the entire monarchy.
I'm a mother of two grown sons. I would probably forgive them for anything, but if one of them had done something that had repercussions beyond my hurt feelings, I would expect them to pay the price, however much it hurt me to see it. The monarchy is bigger than Charles' and Harry's relationship. Since Harry resigned as a working member of the monarchy, I don't think he should be included in the coronation. He can watch from the sidelines, just like the average man on the street. Didn't he famously say that he was "just Harry"?
He won't watch from the sidelines though. Rumors are that NBC (in the US) has approached Harry to be a TV correspondent, providing "expert commentary" on the coronation.If there is $$ to be made, he has no shame. He'll take the $$ and do it.
@@rochellelefever723 Charles doesn't have any control over that. I think the question was should Harry and Meghan be invited to the coronation. Since Harry has never been to a coronation and seems to have limited knowledge of how the monarchy actually works, he should be the last person any company should ask. With that said, I wouldn't watch NBC's coverage if Harry is a commentator. The only thing he's an authority on is whining.
I'm a parent and had to throw my son out twice. Once at Christmas for his egregious behavior. I have to say it was the hardest and most heartbreaking thing I've ever done. He has since grown up and is an upstanding man. he is now a police officer. Sometimes a parent has to make the hard decisions. I love your straightforward take on these issues. Keep it up, Pluto!
Parents & siblings of narcissistic & antisocial family members still love them & can forgive them, but they certainly don't need to associate with them because they don't have to like their actions.
i don’t understand why some of the media act like charles has to invite them. the argument is always „well he is still his son“. but sorry charles has to show loyalty to those who are loyal to him. his other son william, his wife camilla and his daughter in law deserve that they are prioritized here. harry didn’t show any respect to his family. if they have the nerve to show up than the royals are really deserving of all this. they need to finally stand up!!
@gd22 I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. And, in this instance, KCIII OWES it to his Country, NOT even HIS family, but his COUNTRY. In this, his family PALES in comparison, to EXACTLY what he OWES his Country !!
Someone tell me how any member of the Royal family can EVER trust Harry again?! Seriously, he revealed his father's plea for his boys not to make his remaining years miserable. I don't have words to describe how incredibly cruel it is for Harry to reveal this to the world 🥺 If nothing else I will never forgive him for this, the ultimate betrayal of a parent...🤬
The only way Harry can ever save face is by divorcing his wife and bringing his children to England and then undergoing intense psychiatric treatment for a year
I have a grown daughter who has narcissistic personality disorder. We are estranged. I love her but I keep her in a chamber in my heart so that I am not constantly hurt. She is a public figure and you can look her up on Wikipedia but she is not in my life. My life is quiet and calm without her. I would not have her back in my life without a very large apology from her and behavior change. But she cannot change. Narcissists can't. I feel for Charles. Harry cannot change and does not want. He feels that he is right and NO ONE else is. I am American but I say No Coronation Harry!!!!
I really feel for you & hope you are ok? I’m a mother & grandmother, boys & no girls. I’ve lived oblivious of this matter/condition & cannot imagine how difficult it must be. My sincere best wishes to you, I admire your strength ❤
Daughter of an NPD mother and on 7 or 8 years of no contact. The expression, "a narcissist will never forgive you for things they've done to you," is painfully true and one I hope King Charles has heard and heeds. They can't, won't and don't want to change. Fundamental issues with their very personality and conscience. My heart goes out to you, that peace and calm is often a little bittersweet in my experience. 💜
Excellent análysis. If the King wants to forgive his son, to invite him to his house, it is his problem. But a caronation is an act of state and he should not to be invited
I’m a mother and I can honestly say I love my son so much he is my son and I would do anything for him. But if he did something like what Harry has done I would not be happy and there would be no way I would invite him to anything until he apologized to me. I would love and miss him but that is just too far.
If Harry had ANY class, he would announce that they will not attend because they do not wish to cause an unwelcome distraction. He could really win back some positive support if he said that, despite their recent problems, he loves his father and does not want to cause any problems on the most Important day of his fathers life. That is what a mature, emotionally rational person would do.
The Queen loved her sister dearly but had to put the monarchy first when Margaret was told she couldn’t marry the man she wanted. She also had to tell Harry and MEgain they could not be half in as working royals which was a huge shock to Harry who only saw her as GRANNIE and suddenly was faced with THE QUEEN. Sadly Charles needs to think of what is best for the monarchy over what is best for his personal family relations.
Yes! Finally... Someone mentions the harm and loss William is feeling. He lost a mom and a brother who is now trying his best to destroy his family. Did anyone ask him how he is feeling? (had to). Thanks Pluto! xoxo
Agreed. I hate the way Harry has sequestered Diana’s memory for himself-“he [William] know longer looks like my mother,” “I am my mother’s son because I follow my heart,” et cetera. (Not direct quotes, just sentiments he has expressed.) As if William doesn’t love and miss her, too. If anything, I think Harry loves the combined fantasy of media glamor and a little boy’s memories; William took the time to learn about all of her flaws and struggles, and he loves her for the human being she is. It’s incredibly shallow and selfish for Harry to turn his back on their shared bond with their mum and each other in favor of profiting off of the public worship of Princess Diana.
@@fly89 She's a bloody disgrace to this nation.She tormented Princess Diana and embarrassed her husband and her children. She will never be my queen. I shall turn my back. I would never swear allegiance or my life.👎🤬
Great video as ever Pluto. And I am a mother of a 22-year-old son, who would never behave like Harry, and no he’s not perfect before anyone jumps at me 😂. However, even as a parent, I can truly say that I could not agree with you anymore strongly👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻💞
You could see the tension between William & Catherine on the Queens funeral walk about. Why should the entire RF feel that same tension with these two traitors in attendance? We'll all see & feel it too! And if all the their actions are blackmail to ger their half-in-half out deal rejected by the Queen, if King Charles concedes to this, & lets them "back into the fold", the Monarchy is finished.
First, the Coronation is a State affair! Second, I kicked my own son out of my house at the age of 15 for absolutely unacceptable behavior! I did keep an eye on him without his knowledge, and did allow him to go hungry, without housing, and struggle. He initiated contact after 2 1/2 years, sincerely apologized for his actions, and thanked me for loving him enough to tell him no! He's in his mid-40's now and we continue to have an excellent relationship. He finished school, joined the Army, got married, has children of his own, owns his own home, and is a top tier businessman. Every once in awhile he brings up those years on the streets with me with the purpose of remembering and thanking me because not tolerating his behavior forced him to choose a path...the one he was on or a different one. He chose a different path and I'm proud of him as he should be of himself! If I was H's parent, he would NOT be invited anywhere I was going to be without seeing a change in actions, deeds, and words. H is an adult and well beyond the age to take responsibility for himself and stop blaming his dad, his mom for dying, his brother, and anyone else! Grow the he#l up and be a man! The current look of victim is not a good one!
Very well said! Being a good parent isn't always giving the children what they want. Harry has been soooo sheltered and supported. And it's now showing.
I'm a Canadian born in England, the Queen was a touchstone in my life, she represented the country of my birth, its customs and history and was also part of 'the greatest generation't, a generation that (for the most part) lived in a responsible and ethical way, serving community over self. I am reserving my opinion of Charles as a king, he must find a way to express his love for Harry while giving his Commonwealth and its people priority. Harry has denounced monarchy, Commonwealth and people - we do not love him and we do not want him.
Exactly, it makes no sense at all to invite harry, even if he weren't married, as he is an anti-monarchist! (But still wants the titles to merch off!!). He is the biggest hypocrite ever.
Mom here. Also had a sister who used this exact type of behavior over and over on her... And all of us. She was abusive to everyone. My mom kept forgiving her, inviting her to Thanksgiving, etc, (after we were grown.) She kept trying to reconcile me to her, guilting me so that she had access to do it all again. Long story. But one day I said enough and walked away from it all. I wouldn't be part of anything she was part of. My life got peaceful. My children had been her target too. As soon as they were born, their faults were pointed out on the regular and she would always expect to be put first ahead of them. None of this was ok, and we should not have put up with it as long as we did, in the name of 'you should always forgive your child/sister etc. Forgiveness and trust are 2 separate things. Protecting yourself and your family from exploitation are your right and your obligation. My mother should have stopped it long before she did. After I left, she kept taking it until my sister had bankrupted her, taken her home, let her live in one corner of a room she used for storage, and she wasn't allowed to talk to her children nor talk to me on the phone as I had made myself her 'arch nemesis' by ending it with her. My mom would call and whisper to me. These people will take you down until they destroy you. They can't stop at anything less. Their narcissism etc won't let them stop. Nobody owes that to anybody. Like you said, a mistake is fine to forgive. Repeated abuses and attacks on your and yours is not something you can reconcile. King Charles shouldn't either.
That is such a tragic story. Terrible for your poor mother & family. I had a horrible sister in law. As a woman who had only brothers, I always wanted a sister so was thrilled my husband had a sister. Imagined us being best friends. But she made sure we weren't. She was cold & only bothered with me to use me. We're the same age, both in our 70s now I never see her now, thank goodness. It wasn't just me she treated badly. In the over 50 yrs I knew her, she never had a female friend, which is weird & says so much about a woman. I realise now she was a narcissist. I have a wonderful son & daughter, and always had lots of female friends, and finally got a sort of sister, just over 20 yrs ago in the shape of my beautiful daughter in law.
I had a similar story except I walked away from our mother too because she kept enabling it and started enabling my sister’s son who ended up hurting other children badly with impunity. Nope my kids weren’t going to be a part of that.
I'm starting to wonder if we are fascinated by all this because NPD is much more rampant than we thought. It looks like every family has one!!! I feel for William so much. I'm an older sibling, and when I told my youngest sibling to be very careful of his partner's intentions he actually believed me (and indeed very shortly after she took everything from him). William might have, with the protective love an older sibling feel, wanted to protect his brother. An other memory that comes back to me was this saying a wise soul told me when I was a teenager: "what you cannot teach your child, life will teach them, in a much harsher way". They are doing exactly what they should. Letting him throw his tantrums and not reacting. He has a long journey ahead.
I agree🇬🇧..why on earth do we want to see those 2 lapping up attention with no intention of being loyal or decent? They must have a rather large hold over the family imo
I'm a parent of one, but if I did have another child, and the second child was publicly/ privately trashing my first, I couldn't just forgive the second, let alone give an APOLOGY to the second. I sincerely hope that King Charles doesn't invite Harkle to the coronation. You have put it perfectly in this video; it's not just about whether Charles wants them there or not.
Well … I am a mother, grandmother, and great grandmother and I’m sorry I love my bunch with all my heart but that’s why this mess is where it is … because there are never any consequences! I could type for hours but … you presented it very concisely! Thank you!
Gotta tell ya, my daughter is about the same age as Harry and is pretty much the same way. She “canceled” me about 3 years ago and refuses to tell me what I did wrong. Yet when there was an audience at a graduation she comes to me in front of family and said, “What? No hug?” And refuses to respond to texts ever since, like Thanksgiving or Christmas. I am learning how to give up.
It’s terrible - cancel culture and perhaps victim mentality. I know a lady that this happened to and she met someone that needed a surrogate granny in their kids lives - she loves her new role . I suspect some therapists do contribute to this alienation. Praying for our adult children .
@@sunnyday7843 you are SOOOO right about the therapy. My daughter said her therapist said I was a narcissist. NEVER met the person but she can diagnose me.
@@noreenfahsholz463 I feel God will punish these people ! I know my daughter is being manipulated- she has turned on me and stopped going to church - says awful things about her grandparents and uncles and aunts- praying it’s all just a horrible phase-
He can forgive his son. But that doesn't mean he should allow him to attend the coronation. His 1st duty is to his people. Service above self. That what a true monarch does. Queen Elizabeth knew that, and lived by that. Amazing lady.
As a step parent dealing not only with the behavior of kids but of the parent who didn't see that they were be so destructive to themself as well as us, the toughest thing to do is to say No. I was the outsider and was told that so many, many times by the children as well as the parent, but after all said and done, the actual parent realized that I could be objective for the both of us and that they needed to take a stance and say "No, no more manipulation". It was at that point the kids knew they couldn't pull stunts any longer and until they spoke to us as adults, then we had nothing to say to each other. The hardest thing to do, but the best you can do for your children sometimes is to say No, jmho
Pluto I showed my Mum your channel. Here in Lichfield, England. She has become obsessed with your videos and praises them to the sky. She also says you're a lovely lady, clever, witty, talented and beautiful. Just passing the message on. Thanks for all you do.
I'm not a parent, but I do know what it is like to have a family member be emotionally abusive and manipulative. I had to learn, over decades, that it is okay to love someone and not have them in your life at the same time. No one owes Harry or Meghan anything. If they want to live outside of that world then they need to do it on their own. No titles, no help, just them.
....and guess what...they're doing just fine. It's funny how people who are not in a family assume all the problems are due to one person. Usually, the person who is identified as the problem is a symptom of issues within the ENTIRE family system.
Totally agree… their behavior & choices have consequences…they made their 30 pieces of gold….time to stop them because they are incapable of introspection, humility or decency….prayers for the King & Queen & William & Kate ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I have no doubt the bullying investigation found Meghan bullied staff. I’ve no doubt the Palace saying “If the subjects of the investigation wish to come forward, the Palace would be obliged to support them as whistle blowers as the Palace can be considered a public institution.” - was a green light for the reported memoir of one of those victims. However, the Palace itself cannot release the report due to confidentiality laws. It also likely doesn’t want to draw attention to the fact they didn’t do anything to stop H&M bullying their staff. Well, except William. Who according to H knocked him on his arse upon finding out.
I’m sure all the member of staff who worked directly for the Harkles and quit will have signed NDA’s, I’d love for those to be lifted. The RF seems to have always had good working relationships with their staff. Most stay in the job for years on end so it must be a good working environment. It only seems to have soured since the trollop came on the scene.
Of course, he will invite them, because he’s in a “damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t “. Now if parliament vetoes it, then he can say it’s not him.
I sincerely hope that parliament step in. The whole occasion will be overshadowed by their presence. They should sort their differences out behind closed doors and I don’t mean by Charles and William apologising either. Harry should be begging for forgiveness. It should be made clear that they can sort things out but that does not include an invite because the majority of the uk don’t want him there.
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Totally agree, as a parent, with your last comment, that if KC does not want to destroy his family, then KC must stop appeasing the fallen son and recognise the support and loyalty of his elder son and William's wife and family.
The last point Pluto touched on is what I've been saying for the past month...Charles needs to remember he has TWO sons. I'm sure William is hurting by the betrayal of his brother, and it must have been shocking for him to realize the extent of the resentment and hate he [Harry] has toward him. It pained me very much when before the book release, I was reading articles saying that a line will be crossed with Charles if Harry attacked Camilla, and I thought...what about William? Are they saying that Charles will be fine with it if Harry only attacked William and his wife as long as it's not Camilla? I hope Charles is being canny and will do the right thing, surprising all of us, otherwise I know I will lose a lot of respect for him, and he will officially start his reign looking very weak and cowardly.
If King Charles chooses to ignore public opinion, they'll TURN AGAINST HIM. He's already LOSING some support by NOT stripping their titles and removing them from the line of succession. I truly believe that if KC invites H/M or apologizes to H/M, he puts his REIGN AT RISK. P.S. I love your videos. 🤗👏🤗
He may have been advised to take the path he is because if he did strip them ( if he was able to ) they would be even more vindictive. They have certainly proven they are happy to lie about anything.
@@merriestroscher5795 Parliament has the right to do so, titles as well, they can also ban them from the country. They are a security risk and these things should be done.
True people did forgive him after the deadly love triangle he's not even that popular like he's mother was so he need to be very carerful with this harry,meghan charade if he's not that clever people will let him down and his monarchy will fail
the son has not asked for forgiveness, nor is he interested in asking for forgiveness, and he continues to fuck his father, do you think that being a good father is forgiving all the shit that a son does? Parents have every right to stop loving a child who hates them or who humiliates or mistreats them, the same the other way around.
Seems it’s the trend that a grown adult will play victim and alienate themselves from their own parent. It’s so disrespectful but the left likes to break every commandment that God gave us .
I agree with you 💯 % H&M have been given too many chances. They have been caught in too many lies. Yet they are the ones asking for apologies. No I don't think so. If Harry truly wants to make amends, he should be the one apologizing. I think that as long as he is with MM there is no chance for reconciliation.
Totally agree!! We've had more than enough!! what the hell does it take for the RF to have had enough!! I'm looking at the RF as now Being weak and pathetic..... my respect is fast dwindling, my anger fast rising. SHUT THE MARKLE DEBACLE DUO DOWN BEFORE SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAPPENS!!
The title is so true. With multi-millions, mansions, servants, drivers and nannies, etc, etc, those two *still* complain 24/7 about their sad, "traumatic" lives.🙄 Most people are sick to death of them They are now either "taken with a grain of salt" or mocked. In trying to ruin the RF's reputation, they've destroyed their own, and they deserve every bit backlash they're getting now, and more.
One thing I learned from The Crown on Netflix that I believe to be true: “the crown must win. The crown must always win.” Many people have been worried that Charles would be a weak king which is why so many people wanted the crown to skip Charles and go to William. If Charles reconciles with Harry it will obliterate his reign. It will signal that not only is he weak, but that he will put his wayward son over the crown, the monarchy, his duty, his oath, the country, the people in the country and risk his eldest son’s inheritance. I think it would trigger a constitutional crisis as so many Englanders would demand his immediate abdication. Which is probably Meghan’s plan. One by one they fall and she moves closer to the throne. Leave it to an American to play the game of thrones better than the royal family…if they reconcile.
@@AprilsJessesGirl I completely understand that. But that line rings true even if it is a fictional show. The crown must win. The crown must always win. If it doesn’t then the crown and monarchy loses its power.
Meghan lives rent free in minds of many people. It's a shame that people actually want this man to turn his back on his son. Some people have children who have committed crimes and the support them. There are real issues going on in that family that aren't being resolved because of their status and public profile. This is shameful.
Harry’s wife is already distancing herself from the book release, she had one of her press contacts say she had concerns about some of its content, hence her disappearing act. She’s let him take the fall! Harry is being ridiculed, he’s damaged goods and she’ll likely start the discarding process now.
Great logical arguments reflecting what everyone is thinking. You're right - the rule was formally changed a few months ago so the Dukes won't be swearing allegiance - only William will. William is not as easily swayed and he's apparently in charge of organizing this- hopefully Charles will learn the difference between forgiving and enabling and realize that forgiveness is the release of resentment or anger - forgiveness doesn't mean reconciliation.
Having dealt with a sociopath in a bullying situation, I can say that at the very least for him, forgiveness didn't actually matter to him, even if he asked for it. "I forgive you" are just words to most people, after all. What he wanted was *acceptance.* I forgave him, because it's a part of my world view, and because I think a lack of forgiveness ultimately ends up hurting the person who won't forgive. It rots and festers in your heart. No one who has been victimized should be further victimized by the poison of bitterness, as difficult as it can be to forgive. But that's another topic. The point is that I forgave the dude who had severely bullied me, but I wouldn't be friends with him (note: not being friends is VERY different from being antagonistic- I wasn't his friend, but I wasn't an antagonist either). I knew who he was and that he wasn't changing any time soon. For as long as he still thought he had a chance to make me friends with him after I forgave him, he was on his best behavior. But as soon as he realized that while I was kind and polite to him, I was also on my guard and didn't trust him, he dropped the facade and went right back to the behavior that had required forgiving in the first place. I was still kind and polite (between you and me, that made him even more mad, because I walked the line between kindness and doormat-ness very well, and he couldn't walk all over me). In conclusion, I don't fault the royals for their forgiveness, or even for trying to be kind to H+M. The mistake lies in accepting them back into the fold, in any way shape or form, without a sure sign of real, lasting change. Inviting them to the coronation will be seen as acceptance back into the fold.
“ I’m not a parent…” Although you’re not a parent, your powerful sense of fair play vis-a-vis Prince William and the tax paying public is commendable and undeniable. Your background in legal and military areas makes your commentary highly sensible and well thought. Excellent video and views.
People seem to be forgetting that these two also made grave accusations against the British people themselves, calling an entire nation out for racism. Charles, as king, represents his people, he will swear a solemn vow to serve them/us (I am a Brit btw). To invite H&M to the Coronation will be a massive slap-in-the-face to the people. Several here have said that Charles will appear weak. Charles already is thought of as weak, always has been, hence the difficult relationship with his father. The tough one is Anne. For many years, people wished she were the heir. It's a shame that Meghan for all her research never picked up the media treatment of Anne for years, it was brutal, but she weathered it and worked tirelessly but without fanfare to win the respect she now enjoys. Camilla has done likewise. On current evidence, Harry and Meghan are too flaky to even contemplate the amount of effort and patience such "rehabilitation" requires. Harry has also shown himself to be a very unpleasnat person, I think many of us are wondering why we liked him so much for so long, he was/is unworthy if such affection, Anyway, that seems gone for good.
I agree with you 💯%! (Oh, and I am a mother of 3 adult sons). This event, his duty to the Monarchy & the people he represents has to take precedence over personal feelings, imo. I hope Charles will be there to help pick up the pieces of that pathetic human when Me-gain dumps him. But Harry has destroyed his privilege of ever again being a working member of the Royal Family!
What about love for his other child, the one that has been maligned and accused of abuse? What about love for his wife, who was called “a dangerous” woman. What about the love of his parents, who’ve been trashed, both while alive and posthumously? KC3 may love his son but he’s throwing his other loved ones under the bus by trying to placate him.
I have a son with mental health issues. I have tried everything and everywhere to get him better. But he rather like H wants to rewrite history. It’s exhausting, it’s painful and I am now handling it more firmly. Guilt parenting help no one.
I love your videos, I could watch you all day. I’m 53 years old and I think you’re intelligent, engaging and you seem like a lovely human being. Please keep up the good work. I truly appreciate all your time and effort invested to create such fascinating content. ❤
Pluto, you're truly amazing. I love your all encompassing videos. You leave no stone unturned, no truth unexposed! I hope you're raking in the money and you don't ever stop the truth! The world needs to wake up to the biggest con and what's really going on. One American Veteran to another foreign Veteran! God bless you!
Harry is still trying to get the family to react. Then they would do what they did to that writer, not accept the apology and keep going on how bad the family is. Harry couldn’t comment on anything as he doesn’t know anything.
Wise words. I have supported the same perspective - until now. Following the BRF’s lack of actions in the face of the treasonous actions has become increasingly bewildering and agitating. They’ve destroyed the fantasy 🌷
If Queen Elizabeth can strip her son, Andrew of his title and his position, she was waiting to see if her firstborn was as strong as she was. Clearly, he’s not.
H should not attend the coronation! Not only does his presence endanger the king, the royal family and the beautiful people of Britain, but the other dignitaries, who will attending from other countries! Parliament should take a stand on this.
I totally agree with your two cents. King Charles needs to think like a King in this instance. Do not give in to blackmail because the royal family has nothing to apologize for. You are right, their trashing of the Royal family will never stop because that has been their whole focus these past three years.
I am a parent of 3 teenagers. I would have to weep for the loss of my son if he did half of what Harry has done to his family. He is despicable. The only excuse I can think of is that Harry has some kind of disorder that the palace were aware of and had been covering for.
Yes I think Harry has had problems since he was a little boy, his unreasonable jealousy of William where he would go and kick William if his mother hugged him ( it's on video and he wasn't even corrected when he did which I think is part of the problem) Diana apparently expressed her concern to friends and he was in therapy when he was 5 years old.
He was always wayward, yes. But this could have been reined in. His biggest problem is......Meghan. can't see that marriage lasting. She's cost him and his poor family so much.
I have two sons….I would die for BOTH of them….they are my life. My oldest was born 1 year and 2 days after I suffered a miscarriage. My youngest is the sweetest most kind man you’ll ever meet. I think you get I love my boys. That being said…I have always stress consequences. There are ALWAYS consequences and I have doled them out. I would not invite Harry. Harry has yet to understand consequences. The King has a duty to his people. No one wants to be bad cop…but someone HAS to. William has had to grow up way too fast…his mother all but forced him to. Tissues under the door, carrying on about her title-mommy I’ll give it back to you, and there’s more. (btw That’s when my love for Diana faded) He deserves the spotlight. As an older child who was told they weren’t as important-I feel William’s pain. Harry should NOT be invited.
Sad as it is, sometimes parents have to draw a line in the sand. Just because they are your kids, you don’t have to put up with treacherous behaviour, especially when the kids are fully grown adults.
I am a parent of three and a grandparent of ten and I have tolerated an awful lot from my offspring but there comes a point when you say enough is enough. I still love them but I’ve lost all respect for them. It’s sad but my life has improved because I can finally focus on myself and my mental and physical health in my twilight years. Good luck to them but you know what they say….what comes around goes around. I don’t believe Harold and the wife will attend the coronation even if they are invited. There was a reason why Charles made it on Archies birthday. I 💯 agree that William has been outstanding and I’m so relieved that he was born first!
They can throw the Archie doll in a drawer and trot over…they would come in a shot if invited, so best to not invite them. I am glad you are getting to focus on you instead of people who bring toxicity to your life
I think it is immoral to force a parent to forgive or even love a child who is abusive or insists on harming his parent. the same for abused children, no one should be forced by blood (according to public morality) to forgive or love their abusers, whether they are children or parents.
Hah! Meghan will NEVER pass up the chance to be photographed at the coronation. Even behind a giant candle. It will literally be part of the historical record. They should be barred from all ancillary events, both family and state.
I honestly find your videos some of the best, most honest analysis of the problematic Harkles! I am a parent and fully agree with your remarks about the Harkles showing zero remorse....my opinion as a parent..they should not be invited... sometimes kids need to have consequences for their actions....now is the time...
Unconditional love is ok. Unconditional tolerance is not.
well said
Love this.
Bravo
spot on!
William is a loyal loving son. His wife Catherine is a classic jewel 💎. Why Charles is allowing Harry and Megan to trash and hurt William pisses me off.
Exactly. KC allows them to hurt his other family members.
Pisses me off too!! The people of the UK and the Commonwealth are funding this coronation. It is for the people and by the people (or should I say peasants?) and the people are 98% (according to recent polls) not in favour of the Monticeto traitors attending this state event. Wake up Charles. Henry is lost until he reaches rock bottom and humbly admits he needs help.
I couldn't agree more and if William is pissed off by Horrid's behaviour then l completely understand why
William is just a big hypocrite. Both Harry and his brother are fake, phoney and don't have a clue what real life is like. Disband the monarchy please, it is so worthless.
It's not a case of "allowing" H&M to trash the family, how can he prevent H from Writing a book ? If he does not invite the gruesome twosome, Critics will say he is being petty. I'm hoping that even they are being invited, they don't come. They should be home on that day anyway giving Archie the birthday party he didn't have last year as H was too busy playing Polo.
I live in Britain and I agree with you Wholeheartedly. I do not want them in my Country ever again.
I’m a British woman, the same age as Diana would have been , and my heart broke for Harry and his brother the day they followed their mothers coffin, and I along with the rest of the UK rejoiced when we thought he’d found happiness. I despise what he has become.
Please read the book.. the real Diana, by lady Campbell...
He’s always been who he is with this behavior we are seeing imo.. I don’t think this behavior is new .. it might be more extreme bc it’s in the public and not contained behind palace doors ..
@@jadebell8790 yes, I think you are right about that .
Rachel I tend to think he has always been the same namely an immature playboy with an exaggerated idea of his own importance .Drink , Drugs and immorality are all he seems to think about because he is too dim to think of anything meaningful.
@@annewalden3795 yes I think you are 💯 correct, I think ironically being part of the institution protected him and we didn’t realise the very selfish entitled person he was.
I am the mother of two grown sons and a grown daughter. I can say that, were I in King Charles' position, I would NOT invite Harry to the coronation. So much is at stake beyond Charles' and Harry's relationship (which is horrible because of Harry and Meghan's words and actions). If Charles goes ahead with making Harry and Meghan welcome to this high profile event, he will be viewed as a very, very weak monarch.
💯 agree. He will be seen more as a father than a King. Even as a father, he will be seen as weak.
@@Anna-Bernadette Absolutely! Giving in when a child is wrong is not love.
He does have to appear not to be as immature as them. He's between a rock and a hard place although I'm sure William would bin them
The Royal Family have to act differently to normal families. He has to follow protocol and H is a Prince so needs to be invited because the European Royalty is invited. These two hypocrites may well be there but will have no role. I think it’s taking a lot more strength to remain quiet and dignified in the face of all this abuse. King Charles should be supported in this situation rather than let H&M win with their spite and pettiness
I am also a mother and grandmother, and I believe in allowing them to fall into the hole they've dug for themselves ..Go ahead and show up fools, see that backfire like everything else. Don't run KC3!!!
I’m a parent. And I agree with everything you’ve said. King Charles can love his son. But, that doesn’t mean that he has to continue allowing this abuse and acting like it hasn’t happened. He is KING first and foremost and his duty should be to his people. Sometimes, you have to cut people out of your life and I think this is what the royal family should do. They can’t trust Harry to not sell them out again and again.
Yes. That is why he is called “king.”
Harry reminds me of Fredo from the Godfather. The brother who betrays his family for money. Fredo said, "I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!" Unfortunately, Harry doesn't understand, (because he is so dumb) that as long as he continues to trash his family he will never be respected.
With your reasoning all the way.
He can love him from afar
Agree. And, if this is how he has parented Harry, ie no consequences - perhaps it's no wonder he's pushing the boundaries over and over ... he knows he can get his father to roll over.
The public would be elated if Harkles not attending the coronation.
"What about William?" - I've been thinking exactly the same the whole time!
If you are dealing with an abusive member of your family, it has nothing to do with being unforgiving it is about setting boundaries with the emotional abusers. KC3 needs to set boundaries with H and M.
This! 👆
Who to say the contempt he’s got who’s to know he do it again so boundaries has to be paid has king even more so!!
H shouldn't e allowed back in unless he is divorced!
@@grahamcarrier1580 Even then, he shouldn’t be allowed back. Give him a roof over his head and a minder, but he should NEVER be allowed near the family.
@@minihaha5367 Even then he'd need to be quarantined until the family had absolute independent medical assurance that he'd been completely de-Megahnized!🤣
“A coronation is a state affair” ….spot on. No one I have listened to lately has said it that simply and succinctly.
In that case, you should have read the various comments instead 😄
I must admit this channel is straight to the point.
Hey we all at least had questioned at 1 point or another?
Did the Monarch knock Diana?
Right?
So why not just 😊
This MUST ONLY MEAN One ☝️ thing!!
Harry must have some Mega dirty dirt!! There’s no other answer
I’m I just got what u are saying! The fact they are not punished but Andrew is stripped of everything. They have openly criticized the RF! Story and lies everywhere, but no consequences
@@amystuckey5900 that’s what I’m saying!
Harry must have some serious dirty dirt on the Family with some kind of a back up plan in place to fry them all alive!
How else can he get away with all his blabbing??
Diana hardly did anything wrong, yet predicted her own death! Then Andrew!
Something isn’t adding up.
@@EatYourCookies_ BS
The one thing about prince William is he's never done anything wrong to his family 🥹
i cant imagine if my siblings wrote a book talking about conversations i had had with them in private, exploiting my grief ect. I wouldnt want anything to do with them ever again.
King Charles has already said that only William will be pledging to the King. That said, the King needs to support the good seeds of the family by NOT inviting the Markles.
Also highlights the fact that, having no role to play in the ceremony , there is no reason for Harry to be there.
@@lizfodi Except for $$$
I am so glad to hear your views about William. Harry gets most of the attention, while his brother carries on with honor and dignity. This can't be easy to do, but he does it.
I would rather have no attention, then have the reason why Harry is getting the attention! The attention Harry is getting is to see what lie he is going to say next, or what he can do to make him sink any lower.
William has my support more than Charles. I write to King Charles and The Government as I am done if H comes to the Coronation. Charles will be known as King Charles the weak. The Country is tired of this drama. Cut the cord FGS
@@helengunter378 also, harry has put a target on himself and his family by bragging (lying) about killing 25 taliban members. Allowing those two traitors to come puts the coronation in the sights of terrorists. Charles desperately needs to realize that he has ANOTHER son and his family who will be in danger if Harry is anywhere around them during such a public affair that would be such an opportunity for the very people Harry has pissed off. If Charles gives in to the ginger bitch, he is risking not only lives, but the monarchy itself. He will look so weak and a weak leader invites conflict on the world stage. Look at America right now with Biden in office.
If H were to be a commentator, I would hope that FINALLY they would get what they deserve…I.e.the poorest ratings in the station’s entire history. I know I will NEVER listen to H or his wife again. Their voices make me 🤮. And they should be BANNED from England. Period. Neither of them has had any consequences for their deplorable behavior…..ever. Enough, already. 🇺🇸
@@helengunter378 King Charles is a sensitive and kind man who is being placed in a terrible situation. None of us know what is being planned behind closed doors. Don't judge him after a few months he has a lot to deal with and there are grandchildren involved ( who he hasn't automatically given titles to )
I’m a parent and someone as hardworking, dedicated and loyal as Prince William should receive the most support from his dad and his country.
Is it only me or do others see the problem when people equate loving someone with approval/acceptance of everything they do no matter how reprehensible it is? As a parent no matter how much you love your children you have to withhold approval/acceptance of behaviour when necessary for their own good.
I genitori devono supportare i propri figli soprattutto nei momenti di difficoltà, esserci sempre ed amarli. Se Il principe Henry ha bisogno , Re Carlo e la Royal family devono aiutarlo. Solo con la misericordia e l'amore si riesce a fare qualcosa. L'odio non porta nulla di buono.‼️
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. To illustrate my point. I have children that I have always loved and will always love. If one of my children was a thief for example I would still love that person. I would not support his thieving lifestyle. I would 100% support that childs efforts to stop thieving.
I completely agree. It can be frustrating when people think that love should be absolutely unconditional, no matter what. They expect that if you love them you should accept everything about them, even the damaging parts. Anything short of that isn't good enough. I'm a firm believer in accepting the consequences for your actions. If Charles invites them to the coronation he may jeopardize the entire monarchy.
Agree. And if you love your child, you teach them about consequences. But I guess there's a reason why Harry is such a spoiled brat, to begin with.
@@liepa7768 so true! He is beyond entitled, spoiled, and selfish
Megyn Kelly said it best "if king Charles invites those two, he deserves all that is coming".
I'm a mother of two grown sons. I would probably forgive them for anything, but if one of them had done something that had repercussions beyond my hurt feelings, I would expect them to pay the price, however much it hurt me to see it. The monarchy is bigger than Charles' and Harry's relationship. Since Harry resigned as a working member of the monarchy, I don't think he should be included in the coronation. He can watch from the sidelines, just like the average man on the street. Didn't he famously say that he was "just Harry"?
He won't watch from the sidelines though. Rumors are that NBC (in the US) has approached Harry to be a TV correspondent, providing "expert commentary" on the coronation.If there is $$ to be made, he has no shame. He'll take the $$ and do it.
@@rochellelefever723 Charles doesn't have any control over that. I think the question was should Harry and Meghan be invited to the coronation. Since Harry has never been to a coronation and seems to have limited knowledge of how the monarchy actually works, he should be the last person any company should ask. With that said, I wouldn't watch NBC's coverage if Harry is a commentator. The only thing he's an authority on is whining.
@ Rochelle...where do all the losers go...woke TV. It's all part of satan support group.
@@fidelogos7098 that is why they will be invited, so they can't do that.
@@katalazar3080 again, the question was "should they be invited?" I said no. Whether they will be invited or not, I have no guess.
I'm a parent and had to throw my son out twice. Once at Christmas for his egregious behavior. I have to say it was the hardest and most heartbreaking thing I've ever done. He has since grown up and is an upstanding man. he is now a police officer. Sometimes a parent has to make the hard decisions. I love your straightforward take on these issues. Keep it up, Pluto!
Parents & siblings of narcissistic & antisocial family members still love them & can forgive them, but they certainly don't need to associate with them because they don't have to like their actions.
@@EvelynElaineSmith I am in same situation
@@Wife_Mother_Failure~ I speak from the heart!
@@Wife_Mother_Failure I'm so sorry for what you are going through. Hang in there.
It’s called tough love and is the hardest love in the world but it often makes all the difference! Congratulations!
i don’t understand why some of the media act like charles has to invite them. the argument is always „well he is still his son“. but sorry charles has to show loyalty to those who are loyal to him. his other son william, his wife camilla and his daughter in law deserve that they are prioritized here. harry didn’t show any respect to his family. if they have the nerve to show up than the royals are really deserving of all this. they need to finally stand up!!
@gd22 I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. And, in this instance, KCIII OWES it to his Country, NOT even HIS family, but his COUNTRY. In this, his family PALES in comparison, to EXACTLY what he OWES his Country !!
Someone tell me how any member of the Royal family can EVER trust Harry again?!
Seriously, he revealed his father's plea for his boys not to make his remaining years miserable. I don't have words to describe how incredibly cruel it is for Harry to reveal this to the world 🥺
If nothing else I will never forgive him for this, the ultimate betrayal of a parent...🤬
There is much discussion that King Charles' comment was a repetition of what Prince Philip had experienced with the Harry-and-Meghan show.
@@debramagginetti135 Yes well the impact is the same obviously
Interesting. Charles is laying blame by allowing his son to make his future miserable??? Hmmm, sounds codependent to me.
The only way Harry can ever save face is by divorcing his wife and bringing his children to England and then undergoing intense psychiatric treatment for a year
They can’t. They cannot ever be trusted whilst still together. She will never be trusted. Harry could redeem himself if he left her. IMO
I have a grown daughter who has narcissistic personality disorder. We are estranged. I love her but I keep her in a chamber in my heart so that I am not constantly hurt. She is a public figure and you can look her up on Wikipedia but she is not in my life. My life is quiet and calm without her. I would not have her back in my life without a very large apology from her and behavior change. But she cannot change. Narcissists can't. I feel for Charles. Harry cannot change and does not want. He feels that he is right and NO ONE else is. I am American but I say No Coronation Harry!!!!
Spot on...I'm a child of a narciccistic mother...they cannot and more importantly Will Not change
I really feel for you & hope you are ok? I’m a mother & grandmother, boys & no girls. I’ve lived oblivious of this matter/condition & cannot imagine how difficult it must be. My sincere best wishes to you, I admire your strength ❤
Daughter of an NPD mother and on 7 or 8 years of no contact. The expression, "a narcissist will never forgive you for things they've done to you," is painfully true and one I hope King Charles has heard and heeds. They can't, won't and don't want to change. Fundamental issues with their very personality and conscience. My heart goes out to you, that peace and calm is often a little bittersweet in my experience. 💜
I feel your pain Linda. I have the same situation with my son. The pain is beyond compare and I send you my very best wishes. xx
Ever hear of Jeremy Clarkson. He lost his job despite apologizing at least twice.
Excellent análysis. If the King wants to forgive his son, to invite him to his house, it is his problem. But a caronation is an act of state and he should not to be invited
I’m a mother and I can honestly say I love my son so much he is my son and I would do anything for him. But if he did something like what Harry has done I would not be happy and there would be no way I would invite him to anything until he apologized to me. I would love and miss him but that is just too far.
April you would be right to accept a humble apology from your son and his wife .
No way. He must remember he is supposed to put his country and commonwealth first. He also has another son to think about
If Harry had ANY class, he would announce that they will not attend because they do not wish to cause an unwelcome distraction. He could really win back some positive support if he said that, despite their recent problems, he loves his father and does not want to cause any problems on the most Important day of his fathers life. That is what a mature, emotionally rational person would do.
Exactly..but Harry does not have any class!
If
@@pam751 None What so ever , Harry is definitely a lose canon as simple as that
Why assume Harry loves anyone but Harry? And yes, including Meghan and Diana in that "anyone".
That would be a good idea for him, but MM is running that show
The Queen loved her sister dearly but had to put the monarchy first when Margaret was told she couldn’t marry the man she wanted. She also had to tell Harry and MEgain they could not be half in as working royals which was a huge shock to Harry who only saw her as GRANNIE and suddenly was faced with THE QUEEN. Sadly Charles needs to think of what is best for the monarchy over what is best for his personal family relations.
This was so spot on. I don’t want to watch the coronation if Harry and Megan are there.
Me too
I will if there are 2 or 3 candles this time. That'll give me a chuckle 🤣
Yes! Finally... Someone mentions the harm and loss William is feeling. He lost a mom and a brother who is now trying his best to destroy his family. Did anyone ask him how he is feeling? (had to). Thanks Pluto! xoxo
Agreed. I hate the way Harry has sequestered Diana’s memory for himself-“he [William] know longer looks like my mother,” “I am my mother’s son because I follow my heart,” et cetera. (Not direct quotes, just sentiments he has expressed.) As if William doesn’t love and miss her, too. If anything, I think Harry loves the combined fantasy of media glamor and a little boy’s memories; William took the time to learn about all of her flaws and struggles, and he loves her for the human being she is. It’s incredibly shallow and selfish for Harry to turn his back on their shared bond with their mum and each other in favor of profiting off of the public worship of Princess Diana.
@@Echo-mg5em Perfectly said!
A King's first duty is to his PEOPLE! Not his family.
It's wasn't when it came to cowmilla.
@@ralphowens8346 how did Queen Consort hurt you?
@@fly89 She's a bloody disgrace to this nation.She tormented Princess Diana and embarrassed her husband and her children. She will never be my queen. I shall turn my back. I would never swear allegiance or my life.👎🤬
I thought attacking Queen Camilla was KC's red line. Harry put it in writing that she is a "dangerous woman"! Harry has definitely crossed it. 😡
Great video as ever Pluto. And I am a mother of a 22-year-old son, who would never behave like Harry, and no he’s not perfect before anyone jumps at me 😂. However, even as a parent, I can truly say that I could not agree with you anymore strongly👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻💞
You could see the tension between William & Catherine on the Queens funeral walk about. Why should the entire RF feel that same tension with these two traitors in attendance? We'll all see & feel it too! And if all the their actions are blackmail to ger their half-in-half out deal rejected by the Queen, if King Charles concedes to this, & lets them "back into the fold", the Monarchy is finished.
First, the Coronation is a State affair!
Second, I kicked my own son out of my house at the age of 15 for absolutely unacceptable behavior! I did keep an eye on him without his knowledge, and did allow him to go hungry, without housing, and struggle. He initiated contact after 2 1/2 years, sincerely apologized for his actions, and thanked me for loving him enough to tell him no! He's in his mid-40's now and we continue to have an excellent relationship. He finished school, joined the Army, got married, has children of his own, owns his own home, and is a top tier businessman. Every once in awhile he brings up those years on the streets with me with the purpose of remembering and thanking me because not tolerating his behavior forced him to choose a path...the one he was on or a different one. He chose a different path and I'm proud of him as he should be of himself!
If I was H's parent, he would NOT be invited anywhere I was going to be without seeing a change in actions, deeds, and words. H is an adult and well beyond the age to take responsibility for himself and stop blaming his dad, his mom for dying, his brother, and anyone else! Grow the he#l up and be a man! The current look of victim is not a good one!
Very well said! Being a good parent isn't always giving the children what they want. Harry has been soooo sheltered and supported. And it's now showing.
Give yourself a pat on the back for being the perfect parent. ❤️
Tough love is…tough. ❤
Letting your kid go hungry . . . Hmmm.
@@jaimelaughter1345
I agree, sure he chose a path, that or die
Forgiveness should always be paramount but with healthy boundaries. Without the boundaries, there really is no love.
I'm a Canadian born in England, the Queen was a touchstone in my life, she represented the country of my birth, its customs and history and was also part of 'the greatest generation't, a generation that (for the most part) lived in a responsible and ethical way, serving community over self. I am reserving my opinion of Charles as a king, he must find a way to express his love for Harry while giving his Commonwealth and its people priority. Harry has denounced monarchy, Commonwealth and people - we do not love him and we do not want him.
Exactly, it makes no sense at all to invite harry, even if he weren't married, as he is an anti-monarchist! (But still wants the titles to merch off!!). He is the biggest hypocrite ever.
Mom here. Also had a sister who used this exact type of behavior over and over on her... And all of us.
She was abusive to everyone. My mom kept forgiving her, inviting her to Thanksgiving, etc, (after we were grown.) She kept trying to reconcile me to her, guilting me so that she had access to do it all again.
Long story. But one day I said enough and walked away from it all. I wouldn't be part of anything she was part of. My life got peaceful. My children had been her target too. As soon as they were born, their faults were pointed out on the regular and she would always expect to be put first ahead of them. None of this was ok, and we should not have put up with it as long as we did, in the name of 'you should always forgive your child/sister etc. Forgiveness and trust are 2 separate things. Protecting yourself and your family from exploitation are your right and your obligation.
My mother should have stopped it long before she did. After I left, she kept taking it until my sister had bankrupted her, taken her home, let her live in one corner of a room she used for storage, and she wasn't allowed to talk to her children nor talk to me on the phone as I had made myself her 'arch nemesis' by ending it with her.
My mom would call and whisper to me.
These people will take you down until they destroy you. They can't stop at anything less. Their narcissism etc won't let them stop.
Nobody owes that to anybody.
Like you said, a mistake is fine to forgive.
Repeated abuses and attacks on your and yours is not something you can reconcile.
King Charles shouldn't either.
That is such a tragic story. Terrible for your poor mother & family. I had a horrible sister in law. As a woman who had only brothers, I always wanted a sister so was thrilled my husband had a sister. Imagined us being best friends. But she made sure we weren't. She was cold & only bothered with me to use me. We're the same age, both in our 70s now I never see her now, thank goodness. It wasn't just me she treated badly. In the over 50 yrs I knew her, she never had a female friend, which is weird & says so much about a woman. I realise now she was a narcissist. I have a wonderful son & daughter, and always had lots of female friends, and finally got a sort of sister, just over 20 yrs ago in the shape of my beautiful daughter in law.
Powerful story and you bring up a good point....this type of person has zero compassion.. look hoe Meghan treats the family that gave her everything!
I had a similar story except I walked away from our mother too because she kept enabling it and started enabling my sister’s son who ended up hurting other children badly with impunity. Nope my kids weren’t going to be a part of that.
I'm starting to wonder if we are fascinated by all this because NPD is much more rampant than we thought. It looks like every family has one!!! I feel for William so much. I'm an older sibling, and when I told my youngest sibling to be very careful of his partner's intentions he actually believed me (and indeed very shortly after she took everything from him). William might have, with the protective love an older sibling feel, wanted to protect his brother. An other memory that comes back to me was this saying a wise soul told me when I was a teenager: "what you cannot teach your child, life will teach them, in a much harsher way". They are doing exactly what they should. Letting him throw his tantrums and not reacting. He has a long journey ahead.
Beautifully said. Thank you. Forgiveness does not mean access to continue being an A**hole.
I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said! King Charles should honour what the majority of the taxpayers of Britain are saying!
I agree🇬🇧..why on earth do we want to see those 2 lapping up attention with no intention of being loyal or decent? They must have a rather large hold over the family imo
Totally agree
Yes! The people do not want to see these two! As our apartment prices go up 30%, gas prices are soaring! No one wants to see these two entitled brats!
I'm a parent of one, but if I did have another child, and the second child was publicly/ privately trashing my first, I couldn't just forgive the second, let alone give an APOLOGY to the second. I sincerely hope that King Charles doesn't invite Harkle to the coronation. You have put it perfectly in this video; it's not just about whether Charles wants them there or not.
Well … I am a mother, grandmother, and great grandmother and I’m sorry I love my bunch with all my heart but that’s why this mess is where it is … because there are never any consequences! I could type for hours but … you presented it very concisely! Thank you!
They are going to need serious security if they do come. They will be seriously booed we don’t want them here.
Rewarding bad behaviour is so 2023...
2022, 2021, 2020, 2019 with those Two Whining Vindictive Spoiled Nasty people….🤦🏼♀️🤐
No!!
Gotta tell ya, my daughter is about the same age as Harry and is pretty much the same way. She “canceled” me about 3 years ago and refuses to tell me what I did wrong. Yet when there was an audience at a graduation she comes to me in front of family and said, “What? No hug?” And refuses to respond to texts ever since, like Thanksgiving or Christmas. I am learning how to give up.
It’s terrible - cancel culture and perhaps victim mentality. I know a lady that this happened to and she met someone that needed a surrogate granny in their kids lives - she loves her new role . I suspect some therapists do contribute to this alienation. Praying for our adult children .
@@sunnyday7843 you are SOOOO right about the therapy. My daughter said her therapist said I was a narcissist. NEVER met the person but she can diagnose me.
@@noreenfahsholz463 I feel God will punish these people ! I know my daughter is being manipulated- she has turned on me and stopped going to church - says awful things about her grandparents and uncles and aunts- praying it’s all just a horrible phase-
@@sunnyday7843 😪
❤ kids most always break your heart you be fine
He can forgive his son. But that doesn't mean he should allow him to attend the coronation. His 1st duty is to his people. Service above self. That what a true monarch does. Queen Elizabeth knew that, and lived by that. Amazing lady.
As a parent you can still love your child unconditionally and have boundaries
I agree..
Amen
That's right !
I’m British and childless and agree with every word you said.
I'm American and I have children and I agree too 😉 💯
This U.K. citizen agrees and doesn’t want to see another single penny of tax payer funds wasted on Harry and his wife!
As a step parent dealing not only with the behavior of kids but of the parent who didn't see that they were be so destructive to themself as well as us, the toughest thing to do is to say No. I was the outsider and was told that so many, many times by the children as well as the parent, but after all said and done, the actual parent realized that I could be objective for the both of us and that they needed to take a stance and say "No, no more manipulation". It was at that point the kids knew they couldn't pull stunts any longer and until they spoke to us as adults, then we had nothing to say to each other. The hardest thing to do, but the best you can do for your children sometimes is to say No, jmho
Agreed 👍
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hello Lichfield, I agree with your comments. I used to live in Kings Bromley xx
totally agree
Agreed--from California, USA.
Absolutely true! --- from Florida, USA
I totally agree with your mum 👍👏
What does it take to get across to Charles that
" the people don't want them at His Coronation!"?
I'm not a parent, but I do know what it is like to have a family member be emotionally abusive and manipulative. I had to learn, over decades, that it is okay to love someone and not have them in your life at the same time. No one owes Harry or Meghan anything. If they want to live outside of that world then they need to do it on their own. No titles, no help, just them.
....and guess what...they're doing just fine. It's funny how people who are not in a family assume all the problems are due to one person. Usually, the person who is identified as the problem is a symptom of issues within the ENTIRE family system.
Totally agree… their behavior & choices have consequences…they made their 30 pieces of gold….time to stop them because they are incapable of introspection, humility or decency….prayers for the King & Queen & William & Kate ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I have no doubt the bullying investigation found Meghan bullied staff. I’ve no doubt the Palace saying “If the subjects of the investigation wish to come forward, the Palace would be obliged to support them as whistle blowers as the Palace can be considered a public institution.” - was a green light for the reported memoir of one of those victims. However, the Palace itself cannot release the report due to confidentiality laws. It also likely doesn’t want to draw attention to the fact they didn’t do anything to stop H&M bullying their staff.
Well, except William. Who according to H knocked him on his arse upon finding out.
I’m sure all the member of staff who worked directly for the Harkles and quit will have signed NDA’s, I’d love for those to be lifted. The RF seems to have always had good working relationships with their staff. Most stay in the job for years on end so it must be a good working environment. It only seems to have soured since the trollop came on the scene.
Of course, he will invite them, because he’s in a “damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t “. Now if parliament vetoes it, then he can say it’s not him.
Let’s hope Sunak does something right for once and bans him from coming.
Rishi won’t do a damn thing.
I sincerely hope that parliament step in. The whole occasion will be overshadowed by their presence. They should sort their differences out behind closed doors and I don’t mean by Charles and William apologising either. Harry should be begging for forgiveness. It should be made clear that they can sort things out but that does not include an invite because the majority of the uk don’t want him there.
He is a threat to the Monarchy , Uk and Commonwelth .
Enough is enough
Lock him up for ever.
Which would show once again how weak KC is as a leader
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I fear the Monarchy is at stake if King Charles 🤴 doesn't take into consideration his people and their feelings on this whole embarrassing situation
Absolutely brilliant LBJ! You nailed every single point with supreme clarity. Thank you!
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Totally agree, as a parent, with your last comment, that if KC does not want to destroy his family, then KC must stop appeasing the fallen son and recognise the support and loyalty of his elder son and William's wife and family.
Brilliantly said!
The last point Pluto touched on is what I've been saying for the past month...Charles needs to remember he has TWO sons. I'm sure William is hurting by the betrayal of his brother, and it must have been shocking for him to realize the extent of the resentment and hate he [Harry] has toward him. It pained me very much when before the book release, I was reading articles saying that a line will be crossed with Charles if Harry attacked Camilla, and I thought...what about William? Are they saying that Charles will be fine with it if Harry only attacked William and his wife as long as it's not Camilla? I hope Charles is being canny and will do the right thing, surprising all of us, otherwise I know I will lose a lot of respect for him, and he will officially start his reign looking very weak and cowardly.
If King Charles chooses to ignore public opinion, they'll TURN AGAINST HIM. He's already LOSING some support by NOT stripping their titles and removing them from the line of succession.
I truly believe that if KC invites H/M or apologizes to H/M, he puts his REIGN AT RISK.
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Again, Charles can’t strip them of their titles. It has to go through Parliament
He also does not have the power to remove Harry from the line of succession.
He may have been advised to take the path he is because if he did strip them ( if he was able to ) they would be even more vindictive. They have certainly proven they are happy to lie about anything.
@@merriestroscher5795 Parliament has the right to do so, titles as well, they can also ban them from the country. They are a security risk and these things should be done.
True people did forgive him after the deadly love triangle he's not even that popular like he's mother was so he need to be very carerful with this harry,meghan charade if he's not that clever people will let him down and his monarchy will fail
A parent will forgive and forgive until one day, you cannot. But it will never lessen the love you have for your children.
True
the son has not asked for forgiveness, nor is he interested in asking for forgiveness, and he continues to fuck his father, do you think that being a good father is forgiving all the shit that a son does? Parents have every right to stop loving a child who hates them or who humiliates or mistreats them, the same the other way around.
Seems it’s the trend that a grown adult will play victim and alienate themselves from their own parent. It’s so disrespectful but the left likes to break every commandment that God gave us .
I agree with you 💯 % H&M have been given too many chances. They have been caught in too many lies. Yet they are the ones asking for apologies. No I don't think so. If Harry truly wants to make amends, he should be the one apologizing. I think that as long as he is with MM there is no chance for reconciliation.
Totally agree!! We've had more than enough!! what the hell does it take for the RF to have had enough!!
I'm looking at the RF as now
Being weak and pathetic..... my respect is fast dwindling, my anger fast rising.
SHUT THE MARKLE DEBACLE DUO DOWN BEFORE SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAPPENS!!
The title is so true. With multi-millions, mansions, servants, drivers and nannies, etc, etc, those two *still* complain 24/7 about their sad, "traumatic" lives.🙄 Most people are sick to death of them They are now either "taken with a grain of salt" or mocked. In trying to ruin the RF's reputation, they've destroyed their own, and they deserve every bit backlash they're getting now, and more.
Swear allegiance...Harry couldn’t even sing the national anthem at The Queens funeral
Agree with you. Great show. Smart.
One thing I learned from The Crown on Netflix that I believe to be true: “the crown must win. The crown must always win.” Many people have been worried that Charles would be a weak king which is why so many people wanted the crown to skip Charles and go to William. If Charles reconciles with Harry it will obliterate his reign. It will signal that not only is he weak, but that he will put his wayward son over the crown, the monarchy, his duty, his oath, the country, the people in the country and risk his eldest son’s inheritance. I think it would trigger a constitutional crisis as so many Englanders would demand his immediate abdication. Which is probably Meghan’s plan. One by one they fall and she moves closer to the throne. Leave it to an American to play the game of thrones better than the royal family…if they reconcile.
They didn't think Charles was weak its because no one likes camilla because she has done some pretty horrible things .
That show is FICTION
@@AprilsJessesGirl I completely understand that. But that line rings true even if it is a fictional show. The crown must win. The crown must always win. If it doesn’t then the crown and monarchy loses its power.
@@pduidesign you're probably correct....
Meghan lives rent free in minds of many people. It's a shame that people actually want this man to turn his back on his son. Some people have children who have committed crimes and the support them. There are real issues going on in that family that aren't being resolved because of their status and public profile. This is shameful.
I wouldn't invite them to a damn thing.
Harry’s wife is already distancing herself from the book release, she had one of her press contacts say she had concerns about some of its content, hence her disappearing act. She’s let him take the fall!
Harry is being ridiculed, he’s damaged goods and she’ll likely start the discarding process now.
Great logical arguments reflecting what everyone is thinking. You're right - the rule was formally changed a few months ago so the Dukes won't be swearing allegiance - only William will. William is not as easily swayed and he's apparently in charge of organizing this- hopefully Charles will learn the difference between forgiving and enabling and realize that forgiveness is the release of resentment or anger - forgiveness doesn't mean reconciliation.
Having dealt with a sociopath in a bullying situation, I can say that at the very least for him, forgiveness didn't actually matter to him, even if he asked for it. "I forgive you" are just words to most people, after all. What he wanted was *acceptance.* I forgave him, because it's a part of my world view, and because I think a lack of forgiveness ultimately ends up hurting the person who won't forgive. It rots and festers in your heart. No one who has been victimized should be further victimized by the poison of bitterness, as difficult as it can be to forgive.
But that's another topic. The point is that I forgave the dude who had severely bullied me, but I wouldn't be friends with him (note: not being friends is VERY different from being antagonistic- I wasn't his friend, but I wasn't an antagonist either). I knew who he was and that he wasn't changing any time soon. For as long as he still thought he had a chance to make me friends with him after I forgave him, he was on his best behavior. But as soon as he realized that while I was kind and polite to him, I was also on my guard and didn't trust him, he dropped the facade and went right back to the behavior that had required forgiving in the first place. I was still kind and polite (between you and me, that made him even more mad, because I walked the line between kindness and doormat-ness very well, and he couldn't walk all over me).
In conclusion, I don't fault the royals for their forgiveness, or even for trying to be kind to H+M. The mistake lies in accepting them back into the fold, in any way shape or form, without a sure sign of real, lasting change. Inviting them to the coronation will be seen as acceptance back into the fold.
Tough love needs to be done. This coronation is about the people. It is not about the family on this day
“ I’m not a parent…”
Although you’re not a parent, your powerful sense of fair play vis-a-vis Prince William and the tax paying public is commendable and undeniable. Your background in legal and military areas makes your commentary highly sensible and well thought. Excellent video and views.
Hear, hear
Perfectly put
People seem to be forgetting that these two also made grave accusations against the British people themselves, calling an entire nation out for racism. Charles, as king, represents his people, he will swear a solemn vow to serve them/us (I am a Brit btw). To invite H&M to the Coronation will be a massive slap-in-the-face to the people. Several here have said that Charles will appear weak. Charles already is thought of as weak, always has been, hence the difficult relationship with his father. The tough one is Anne. For many years, people wished she were the heir. It's a shame that Meghan for all her research never picked up the media treatment of Anne for years, it was brutal, but she weathered it and worked tirelessly but without fanfare to win the respect she now enjoys. Camilla has done likewise. On current evidence, Harry and Meghan are too flaky to even contemplate the amount of effort and patience such "rehabilitation" requires. Harry has also shown himself to be a very unpleasnat person, I think many of us are wondering why we liked him so much for so long, he was/is unworthy if such affection, Anyway, that seems gone for good.
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The palace did a super good PR job of Harry.
Lost Beyond Pluto you are the most articulate person I heard in a long time , on point, thanks
I agree with you 💯%! (Oh, and I am a mother of 3 adult sons). This event, his duty to the Monarchy & the people he represents has to take precedence over personal feelings, imo. I hope Charles will be there to help pick up the pieces of that pathetic human when Me-gain dumps him. But Harry has destroyed his privilege of ever again being a working member of the Royal Family!
What about love for his other child, the one that has been maligned and accused of abuse? What about love for his wife, who was called “a dangerous” woman.
What about the love of his parents, who’ve been trashed, both while alive and posthumously?
KC3 may love his son but he’s throwing his other loved ones under the bus by trying to placate him.
I have a son with mental health issues. I have tried everything and everywhere to get him better. But he rather like H wants to rewrite history. It’s exhausting, it’s painful and I am now handling it more firmly. Guilt parenting help no one.
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51 year old woman here totally agreeing with you
From the USA 🇺🇸 Yes, “even (in) America” 😂 we are very tired of them. Or at least the way they’re acting.
Pluto, you're truly amazing. I love your all encompassing videos. You leave no stone unturned, no truth unexposed! I hope you're raking in the money and you don't ever stop the truth! The world needs to wake up to the biggest con and what's really going on. One American Veteran to another foreign Veteran! God bless you!
Thank you for remembering that Prince William exist, was trashed in the book and however he keep going on his duties with dignity.
Harry is still trying to get the family to react. Then they would do what they did to that writer, not accept the apology and keep going on how bad the family is. Harry couldn’t comment on anything as he doesn’t know anything.
Wise words. I have supported the same perspective - until now. Following the BRF’s lack of actions in the face of the treasonous actions has become increasingly bewildering and agitating. They’ve destroyed the fantasy 🌷
@@caroshmarow It is just being played out, watch the space
All of Harry's grievances in "The Spare" & its accompanying interviews sound very petty! Harry is too easily offended, & he has a trigger temper.
If Queen Elizabeth can strip her son, Andrew of his title and his position, she was waiting to see if her firstborn was as strong as she was. Clearly, he’s not.
H should not attend the coronation! Not only does his presence endanger the king, the royal family and the beautiful people of Britain, but the other dignitaries, who will attending from other countries! Parliament should take a stand on this.
I agree with you they are a security threat and the government and the Royal family needs to protect the citizens at all costs.
I totally agree with your two cents. King Charles needs to think like a King in this instance. Do not give in to blackmail because the royal family has nothing to apologize for. You are right, their trashing of the Royal family will never stop because that has been their whole focus these past three years.
I am a parent of 3 teenagers. I would have to weep for the loss of my son if he did half of what Harry has done to his family. He is despicable. The only excuse I can think of is that Harry has some kind of disorder that the palace were aware of and had been covering for.
Yes I think Harry has had problems since he was a little boy, his unreasonable jealousy of William where he would go and kick William if his mother hugged him ( it's on video and he wasn't even corrected when he did which I think is part of the problem) Diana apparently expressed her concern to friends and he was in therapy when he was 5 years old.
He was always wayward, yes. But this could have been reined in. His biggest problem is......Meghan. can't see that marriage lasting. She's cost him and his poor family so much.
Another excellent video.. Thank you
Totally agree with your take on this heinous despicable couple and what they’ve said and down on camera and print 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
While we’re on why are invisible children in line to the throne, the whole list needs to be reviewed!
I have two sons….I would die for BOTH of them….they are my life. My oldest was born 1 year and 2 days after I suffered a miscarriage. My youngest is the sweetest most kind man you’ll ever meet. I think you get I love my boys. That being said…I have always stress consequences. There are ALWAYS consequences and I have doled them out. I would not invite Harry. Harry has yet to understand consequences. The King has a duty to his people. No one wants to be bad cop…but someone HAS to. William has had to grow up way too fast…his mother all but forced him to. Tissues under the door, carrying on about her title-mommy I’ll give it back to you, and there’s more. (btw That’s when my love for Diana faded) He deserves the spotlight. As an older child who was told they weren’t as important-I feel William’s pain. Harry should NOT be invited.
I’m an American and I love your logic n reasoning. You go girl!
Sad as it is, sometimes parents have to draw a line in the sand. Just because they are your kids, you don’t have to put up with treacherous behaviour, especially when the kids are fully grown adults.
I am a parent of three and a grandparent of ten and I have tolerated an awful lot from my offspring but there comes a point when you say enough is enough. I still love them but I’ve lost all respect for them. It’s sad but my life has improved because I can finally focus on myself and my mental and physical health in my twilight years. Good luck to them but you know what they say….what comes around goes around. I don’t believe Harold and the wife will attend the coronation even if they are invited. There was a reason why Charles made it on Archies birthday. I 💯 agree that William has been outstanding and I’m so relieved that he was born first!
They can throw the Archie doll in a drawer and trot over…they would come in a shot if invited, so best to not invite them. I am glad you are getting to focus on you instead of people who bring toxicity to your life
I think it is immoral to force a parent to forgive or even love a child who is abusive or insists on harming his parent. the same for abused children, no one should be forced by blood (according to public morality) to forgive or love their abusers, whether they are children or parents.
@@ellen2022s This is a brilliant comment.
Hah! Meghan will NEVER pass up the chance to be photographed at the coronation. Even behind a giant candle. It will literally be part of the historical record. They should be barred from all ancillary events, both family and state.
My grown daughter has NPD. We are estranged and my life is better for it. I wish you the best. I'll keep you in my prayers.
I hope King Charles watches this.
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Eres muy buena y clara para decir las cosas. Saludos desde México.
working royals will swear loyalty to the King
You are so right..I hope King Charles can hear this..
I honestly find your videos some of the best, most honest analysis of the problematic Harkles! I am a parent and fully agree with your remarks about the Harkles showing zero remorse....my opinion as a parent..they should not be invited... sometimes kids need to have consequences for their actions....now is the time...
This all started when Harry’s now wife started it! Her insatiable hunger for publicity, the press, public adulation and lies STARTED THIS DRAMA!