Chest Rig VS LBE or Belt Kit
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Never a better breakdown for the carry methods - EXCELLENT points! Too many people trying to do EVERYTHING with chest rigs. I roll with LBE but very open on the front for several reasons: release of heat build up and dirt diving/crawling. It's also much easier with LBE to climb over stuff, hump the hills, take more stuff with you and all while NOT looking like a Ninja Turtle!
Thank you! Yes LBE is great and and the GWOT made everyone forget about it.
@@samrussell0331
I'm guessing 'when' you were in (Semper Fi - me '84 - '88 ALICE gear) by your face and length of hair (I didn't cut mine for 7 years). You didn't mention the FLC 'the FLiC' and I'm betting you might have been issued. I'm interested in your comments on that - I find them quite functional.
@@paul7754 I have also grown my hair out for 7 years. I was in from 2013 to 2017. We only use the FLC in boot camp. I don’t remember much about it.
I came here to say the exact same thing. Subscribed!
@@alfredbalderas6010 thank you sir!
Excellent stuff brother! I’ve always used chest rigs based on experiences but I definitely see the need for both! Great video!
A lot of the intent with this video was to inform people, familiar with chest rigs, why a belt kit might be better for certain things. Glad you got something out of it.
Great stuff. I'm in the Southern coastal swamp and run a belt kit similar to what I used in 90's Africa. Better heat dispurtion. I find most guys don't understand the difference between waistline and hips, that's why they don't like belt kits.
Wearing your gear right definitely helps
Agreed. Chest rigs are best for mechanized troops, where mobility in vehicles is paramount.
I prefer LBE, weight distribution is far more important for my purposes.
My chest rig isnt as sexy as my JPC or trex slick plate carrier but it holds 8 mags, has a trauma kit, radio, range finder, notebook, flashlight, and skittles. Its so versatile it can even go on top of a plate carrier as a bandolier.
Thank you for this video. You speak really well and Im quite happy to sub. Cheers man
Thank you
NGMI
Nice work. Paul Harrell vibes. Thank you!
Thank you
I use all 3 methods, as you stared, for various scenarios, they all have their place, at the appropriate time of use, great video. 👍🏾👊🏾💯
That is right. I think most people are only familiar with one option.
I’m of the mindset that it’s actually to have all, or at least some variation of these. This way you have setups that are mission specific. Same with your firearms. I don’t have just one general purpose setup. I have multiple setups in multiple calibers to cover a vast range of scenarios that i may encounter. Being over prepared, is being prepared, in my book. Great video that explains the use and pros and cons. Just subscribed
Thank you
Props for the SOE modular LBV. I was ecstatic when he finally started making them again, but by that time, I chose to go with Spiritus Systems LBE kit, as it was in current production and fairly available. John's gear has been my go to for nearly 30 years.
I’m an addict
Awesome video man thank you!
Thank you for watching. Is there anything you’d like to see in a follow up video?
@@samrussell0331 I will get back to you by end of day
@@samrussell0331 so far I can’t think of anything specific so maybe show in detail what support gear goes with each unless you did that already and I missed it. Like what type of packs or maybe do a load out for the SOE covert pack
I have a small high chest rig. Carrying tools and tourniquet. I also have my battle belt with survival gear. Then my backpack with camping gear.
Nice breakdown brother! Thanks!
Thank you. I’ve been wanting to make this video for a while.
@@samrussell0331 My last video was on an LBE. Subject is very popular right now.
@@NorthwestScout the first military gear I got as a kid was an Alice y-harness and medium Alice pack. I’ve been into this kind of gear for a minute.
@@NorthwestScout I just went to your channel and realized I’ve seen your LBE video. The CZcams analytics said we have similar audiences or something like that, which is kinda obvious.
Good video nice job!
Chest rigs, plate carriers and battle belts all have their place, all have pros and cons to each.
In the end there is no right or wrong, just as long as you train with it and know what each kit set up has in it or how you can improve it.
Right. But not everyone knows why you would want one or the other.
A clear explainer
Thank you. I do try to be helpful
correct , it depends on the mission and mode of travel. folks need to get away from the Heavy Infantry mindset. Light Infantry is the way forward. The Soldiers Load and the Mobility of a Nation.
Gotta get good at foot patrols and mounted operations.
Great vid. Broke it down simple n easy for the newbs like me. Much appreciated brah. 🙏🏽✊🏽
None of those has to be complicated. If someone is making it complicated you should probably ignore them.
@@samrussell0331 Yeah ppl over complicating stuff & even more just trying to sell you 'their' shit you know. Almost everything on CZcams now is just a commercial pretending not to be.
@@samiharb2643 I feel like a lot of my videos have been commercials, just unpaid ones cause it’s all stuff I actually use.
Here in MO I’ve found the lbe works super well just because the summers are so damn hot you need to be able to keep things off your torso. Currently been using a nixie works rig and it’s been great.
@@mr.dinder9287 how do you like the Nixie works? What part of Missouri are you in? I’m in SW MO
@@samrussell0331 it’s a wonderful setup. A little pricey but it’s like a super comfortable lighter weight Alice rig. I’m a little further east. There’s a town called van Buren nearby
@@mr.dinder9287 I know where Van Buren is.
@@samrussell0331 haha hell yea. Were you stationed at Pendleton?
@@mr.dinder9287 yes. Camp Horno. 2/1
appreciate the information
Great. Then you are part of why I made this video.
Thanks
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I’m an old Skool LBE/battle belt Vet. I like chest rigs ok enough but I believe in sticking with what you know. HOWEVER, I also have a severe back injury and won’t be humping much, very far! So my battle plan entails maintaining my Hawkeye badge qualification and the “hunker down and stand your ground until you’re outta rounds” maneuver! LOL
Sounds like you need to make friends with some GWOT vets.
@@samrussell0331 GWOT?
@@GrumpyGenXGramps global war on terror
Excellent video
Thank you
Everyone's different but for me the lbe seems to distribute the weight more evenly on the body, and works better getting in and out of the prone position.
That has been my experience as well
We done! 🤙🇺🇸
It's hard to find a quality mesh vest with a heavy duty zippered front but that's what I like best because the weight is distributed evenly and everything is held close to the body, can still go prone. The one I have has 4 sewn on mag pouches with velcro closures that hold 1 or 2 AR mags each. It has a big velcro square bottom front where you can choose to attach either 2 more mag pouches or a pistol holster. It has 2 small pouches left and right and 3 pistol mag pouches chest high. It has 2 big inside zippered pouches, 3 molle strips across the back to attach whatever and an attached pistol belt if you want to attach other stuff
I like vests too. Ever looked at an FLC (Fighting Load Carrier)? Military issue - mesh, covered with MOLLE, heavy duty zipper and fully adjustable. It does not have a method to attach a belt though. The LBV-88 Enhanced is heavier and has sewn on mag pouches, heavy duty shoulder pads and loop snaps for attaching a web belt. The FLC is more adaptable but again - no belt.
Good sound info, bro. New subscriber
Awesome. Thank you. Is there anything else you’d like to see?
I bought the map pack for my rrv i hope it balances my loadout some gonna run a bladder in the map and 1 canteen on the rrv figure ill molle couple extra mag pouches on the map aswell but so far out of all my surp the eagle industries quality is top notch good video man 💯💪
Thank you. Yeah I really like a lot of what Eagle makes. I’ve got a few videos on their h-harness, and I love it. Those RRVs definitely look cool too.
@@samrussell0331 Noticed that those are starting to get in and out of stock more consistently now that lbe is becoming more popular again, I've already built out a couple of Eagle Industries h-harness but I'm giving some consideration utilizing cheaper more common varieties such as condor gear to see how well it fares.
@@G.W-01 the gear snob in me says to the the Eagle harness, but I think Condor is getting decent.
@samrussell0331 indeed!!!! Eagle is pricey but man when get them all tricked out the quality is there for sure I'm running the khaki and some of those packs and pouches r like finding gold 😆 but worth the extra scratch 💯💪
As a Brit... belt kit is for 48hrs roughly
Are there any overnight items that y’all keep in the belt kit?
I like to blame my lower back problems on the m60 and mud puddles.
👍😄👍
That’ll do it
That blame is probably well placed. Wish you the best.
I still have my LCE from 12 yrs as a 0311 I have a plate carrier/ chest rig
@@Sarge0311 what years and what battalions were you in?
1Bn 3rd Reg 3rd Div K-Bay Hi
@@Sarge0311 cool. I was in 2nd battalion, 1st regiment station on Camp Pendleton.
BOUGHT TIME YOU MADE A NEW VIDEO
Bought time you watched one of my videos.
I see you run the Magpul Fixed stock . I also run the same stock . Do you run the AK cleaning kit in your stock ? I have been contemplating buying one for mine .
Who cleans their AK?
Do you try to keep your gear in a certain weight range? Or have tips on carrying what you need without it being to much weight.
@@IZCSRI the general rule is to carry no more than 25% of your body weight. I basically go with a 50lbs max rule, not including a rifle.
The two methods for not carrying too much:
1. Do a ruck for several miles in your gear. If you’re carrying too much, you’ll definitely carry less next time.
2. Get stronger.
Carry ammo and water first... All combatants tend to complain of a lack of both in the field
Let us know what's the best way to contact you regarding potential collaboration. Tried contacting via email, but it's not available
All of the above. I’ll tell you why. Different missions require different levels and types of equipment. Ounces equal pounds. Weight equals speed. Speed equals mobility. Urban terrain requires plate carriers. Rural terrain requires load bearing equipment.
I’m biased against plate carriers. Best way to block a punch is to not be there.
It's all needs based - duh. Combining chest rigs with belt and rucks is probably best for most folks,
If you’ve never done a patrolwith a belt kit, you’re missing out.
Infantrymen have back problems because the 100lbs+ of ammunition, water and whatever else they were carrying.
That AND the method of carrying it all.
Are you a zany Okie?
@@yetisuncle666 Missouri
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common sense dictates all depends on your situation does it not ?
Not everyone knows the pros and cons of all the options.
Yeah not legit ppl like you that buy stuff & love it, I'm talkin bout all those guys who get the stuff for free from the company to basically just do a positive product review & they lie & say "oh no, not sponsored, bought it all with my own $$".
I dislike belt kits due to the bulk. Most of what I do as a LARP is recon, but I also have a QRF "designation". I find for survival sustainment for longer operations will be in my back pack, otherwise if I need more mags I keep it on a belt.
I'm currently however fielding the SADF battle vest. I find it to be better than a belt kit while maintaining a chest rig style functionality thus far. But I cannot deny that the belt kit is the superior method (over the chest rig) for long range + all the gear you need.
The amount of gear required as an infantryman is bulky.
@@samrussell0331 It's true.