Great Composers: Edgard Varèse

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2018
  • A look at "the stratospheric colossus of sound."
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Komentáře • 46

  • @cb3composer
    @cb3composer Před 2 lety +11

    This is an outstanding overview of Varese's impact on 20th century music.

  • @gomro
    @gomro Před rokem +2

    Cage's assessment of Varese lays bare the differences between the two composers: "Instead of dealing with sounds as sounds, he dealt with them as Varese." And I'm glad he did,

  • @parsa.mostaghim
    @parsa.mostaghim Před 4 lety +11

    thanks for your great content, I hope Harry Partch will come in future videos

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Před 4 lety +1

      Duly noted: lentovivace.com/classicalnerd.html

  • @havefunbesafe
    @havefunbesafe Před dnem

    Nice work young man.🥳 I enjoyed your talk.

  • @tommacdonald6295
    @tommacdonald6295 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent, very well done 👏. Thanks 👍

  • @alwhitaker1925
    @alwhitaker1925 Před 5 měsíci

    Your channel and your culture in music is outstanding. Not to mention the way you explain the topics.
    Hat off !
    I was always a little bit “ intimidated “ by Varese in my youth.
    But now knowing his story I am glad I am terrified by his visions

  • @craigfazekas3923
    @craigfazekas3923 Před 4 lety +6

    He'd certainly would've loved the Moog synthesizer. Maybe more than Keith Emerson did... Ah, the 'what ifs' of life.👊🤓

  • @Quicksilverfan69
    @Quicksilverfan69 Před 6 lety +10

    Love your vids, especially on the more underappreciated composers. Could you possibly cover Zoltan Kodaly, Jean-Baptiste Lully, Dietrich Buxtehude and Joaquin Rodrigo?

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Před 6 lety +1

      Those four have been added to the request pool: www.lentovivace.com/requestqueue.html

  • @neo-eclesiastul9386
    @neo-eclesiastul9386 Před 6 lety +11

    Super, new video!
    Next: Astor Piazolla

  • @timothytikker1147
    @timothytikker1147 Před 4 lety +3

    Varèse sometimes conducted performances of Debussy's works, including the première of The Martyrdom of Saint Sebastian.

  • @MsJonathanpalomino
    @MsJonathanpalomino Před rokem

    Great!

  • @tysongholstondaviscomposer

    Finally!!!

  • @TheUtke
    @TheUtke Před rokem +1

    Glad you put Zappa in there, and you seem very informed, but regarding Varese’s predictions, I’d point your attention to some Zappa musique concrete on “We’re only in it for the money” (Nasal retentive calliope music) “Civilisation phase 3”.

  • @davisatdavis1
    @davisatdavis1 Před 6 měsíci

    Thats crazy. His birthday is 12/18, my birthday is 12/18, and I accompanied an edgard who's birthday is 12/17. My grandma is 12/16.

  • @rubengilquinonez7273
    @rubengilquinonez7273 Před 5 lety +2

    Hi Classical Nerd. Can you make a video on Silvestre Revueltas?

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Před 5 lety +4

      You're the second person to request Revueltas, so he's moved up in the request pool.

  • @wp6007
    @wp6007 Před 5 lety +3

    Just listened to his complete works, he sounds like grindcore filtered through the 20

  • @mantashaft
    @mantashaft Před 5 lety +10

    Your teleporting is giving me seizures

  • @timothytikker1147
    @timothytikker1147 Před 7 měsíci

    It's interesting that Zappa called Varèse on his birthday, because that was the day before Varèse's birthday!

  • @seanramsdell4172
    @seanramsdell4172 Před 6 lety +3

    Please do Wendy Carlos, Szell, Fritz Reiner, Toscanini and Stokowski

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Před 6 lety +6

      My policy in re: living composers remains unchanged since you last requested Carlos. The others have been added to the pool.

  • @Alun49
    @Alun49 Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder what Varèse would have done with synthesisers?

  • @danfriend9567
    @danfriend9567 Před 4 lety +1

    Milton Babbitt and others who knew Varese well will tell you that his actual birthdate was Dec.22.1881.2 years older than he claimed.I can't corroborate this,but there is seemingly a host of anecdotal evidence.

  • @saraondo2698
    @saraondo2698 Před 3 lety +1

    "Threnody for Frank Zappa" , Zappa could write like Varese. He could also write "tunes ". To write "traffic jams" one has to know the right notes to know the "wrong" notes. Mozart is great for his period,the clsssical era we're
    in the post modern era today. it may

  • @marissamontemayor-apostol7230

    What's the cost of the scandal of bourgagne

  • @erniepianezza8940
    @erniepianezza8940 Před 6 lety +3

    COOL! I LIKE ANYONE WHO LIKES CLAUDE!! 😁🎹

  • @GCorvetti
    @GCorvetti Před rokem

    Zappa likes this video :D

  • @Yasherdooble
    @Yasherdooble Před 6 lety +5

    I'm first dope I've never been first

  • @runner0075
    @runner0075 Před rokem

    well done and informative. Would be even better if you could speak a bit slower.

  • @jeffreyjohnson4149
    @jeffreyjohnson4149 Před 3 lety +1

    This would have been a lot more interesting if you had included some of Varese's music throughout, from beginning to end.

  • @tchrisou812
    @tchrisou812 Před 4 lety +10

    This guy isn't wearing pants.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Před 4 lety +5

      Do shorts count as pants?

    • @pianomanhere
      @pianomanhere Před 3 lety +2

      @@ClassicalNerd Yes. They have you covered. 😁 Considering that bodily exposure is now a common sight on Instagram and elsewhere, we can declare you comfortably in the safe zone.

    • @ashwutrodriguez210
      @ashwutrodriguez210 Před 7 měsíci +1

      😂

  • @stephenhall3515
    @stephenhall3515 Před 3 lety +1

    Your jumping about on the screen is annoying and pretentious.
    As a young man I was an avid fan of Varese and was lucky enough to be in England, where his music was frequently played as regular repertoire and not just for "shock value". His vision of composer without an intermediary was appealing but even Stockhausen saw that this could lead to stasis. Moreover, Stockhausen and others had far greater talent than Varese.
    While I still listen to Varese occasionally in my old age I conclude that the composer said all he had to say in 'Integrales' and he just kept repeating himself and making pieces longer.
    He was very much of a time and place and nowhere near being a great composer.

    • @mikrokosmiko1
      @mikrokosmiko1 Před 2 lety +1

      No way. Hyperprism, Octandre, Density... are absolute masterpieces. He was outstanding in every way, very influential, very talented. One of the clearest examples of an artist being ahead of his time.

  • @emmetharrigan5234
    @emmetharrigan5234 Před rokem

    sounds hoakey. Also if youre counting him against his better intentions then ravel's daphis et chloe is closer to a sypmhony than la mer which is more like a symphonic suite

  • @jamesmurphy1389
    @jamesmurphy1389 Před 3 lety +2

    Yeah but could he write a tune? Oh! So he was too clever to write a tune! Is that what you're saying? I see! Now I know! Music is not about writing toons! Music is about 'blocks of sound"! What, like a traffic jam? Yeah, Varese loved traffic jams. And so did Frank Zappa, who loved Varese - so they can't both be wrong. Music is traffic jams.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Před 3 lety +6

      I'm not saying all music _is_ what Varèse thought-rather, I'm just presenting Varèse's conceptualization of his own music, which is a prerequisite for truly understanding what he was after.

    • @jamesmurphy1389
      @jamesmurphy1389 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ClassicalNerd Fair point, which I duly note. But you did say that Varese changed the face of music forever - and that is very debatable, given our inevitable lack of historical perspective. Indeed, it may be that Varese is eventually completely forgotten. I don't think he will be but it is a distinct possibility. I actually enjoy listening to some Varese - but not as music - more along the lines of Caliban's "be not afeared: the isle is full of strange sounds that give delight and hurt not..." I hear Varese more as the sort of music nature would make if she could consciously compose....

    • @halcyon289
      @halcyon289 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jamesmurphy1389 Nature ....yeah I can relate to that.
      Nature is not a "she" though.

    • @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
      @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328 Před 4 dny

      Varese may not have liked jazz, but jazz musicians appreciated him. Wind/reed jazz instrumentalist Eric Dolphy took it upon himself to perform "Density 21.5"