Bad Behavior podcast w/ Virgie Tovar episode analysis | fat liberation cringe
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Imagine if a druggie was describing their sober life as “missing out on so many good drugs I didn’t let myself have”
I mean addicts talk this way all the time. I did when I was a speed head. Like damn being sober sucked.
I’d describe myself as a “recovering addict”. Rather than a “druggie”. Nitpicking, but… yeah… I have had that thought. Like, damn, I wish I’d tried DMT before I got sober. Whatever.
I guess I see a big difference between being a recovering drug addict and being on a diet. There is nothing stopping a person trying to lose weight from eating whatever they want. All that is required to lose weight is to remain in a calorie deficit. Within that requirement, you can eat literally whatever you want. Whereas when you’re in recovery, you can’t do drugs at all.
@@CeeBee781also in recovery,and agree 100% .good luck on ur journey
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I’m sure a lot of drug addicts think like that haha
I'll say this again. These people seriously need hobbies and interests outside of food and their bodies. Its giving very much ed behaviour. This hyper awareness of how you look and what other people look like and what they're eating and how much.
It's telling (and sad) when they see restricting unhealthy food as taking away joy from their lives.
(Unhealthy) food should NOT be this important in your life that you can't imagine it not being a big part of your daily food & joy in life. The point of life is not to get happiness from food.
The point of Food is to nurish your body and make you feel awesome so you can go and do other awsome things in life.
If your diet makes you tired, sluggish, gives you headaches, makes your body uncomfortable, too big (or too small) for your environment.... it's time to look over WHAT you eat and how MUCH.
Fast food is designed to be hyper- palatable and addicting
It's literally an addiction
therapy.
Ikr
These people are so obsessed with how the world sees them. If they would actually learn to not give a crap as to what anyone thinks, these videos wouldn't exist.
Seconding Funtie Times here. Therapy. This is an ED.
I paint. I sculpt little toys. I make stuff. I read. I have a thousand things to do that aren't food-related. I ate already. I won't think about food after watching this video. I'm BUSY.
Just trust your body and follow your cravings. Lol.
Yo, I'm an alcoholic. My body is stupid. It's up to me to keep my urges under control so I can remain healthy. She's just addicted to food and hunting for excuses.
Yeah. My body insists it needs cigarettes and sweet coffee, because it's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Exactly, I'm addicted to food myself in a different way (bulimia) and I can't trust my body to decide when and what I should eat
THIS. My body doesn't want to sleep. That doesn't mean I should follow my craving for staying up 30-35hrs before sleeping. Does it feel good? In the moment, until I'm exhausted the next day and feel too crappy to accomplish anything. My body craves the peace and haze of opioids. That doesn't mean I should follow my craving and try to acquire pills to take until my face falls off. Does it feel good? In the moment, until a few days later I want more. In the moment, until I start justifying to myself that this Ibuprofen-level pain REQUIRES opioids.
"Living your best life" is not following the neanderthal-brain impulses, it's assessing those impulses and making an informed decision on whether they're good for you or bad for you. And in either case, good or bad, how much? Water is good for you, you may have the desire to drink a lot of water, but if you drink multiple gallons in a short period of time, you could seriously injure yourself. Does that mean water is bad? No, not at all. It means everything has its limit, even the things you need to survive. ESPECIALLY the things you need to survive.
My body loves chips. Should I eat chips all day? No.
Yep, way to the nail on the head and admitting your flaws. I'm a recovering drug addict and I have no one to blame for that time in my life but me. I can't blame things that happened because I could've handled them in a healthier way. By releasing all responsibility and blaming others they try to appear blameless, despite it being their doing and their fault as well for trying to get some sort of edification out of not working out.
Imagine being so privileged u get to overeat constantly and treat urself overpriced Starbucks drinks and shit, say u regret not eating EVEN MORE and then whine about capitalism and about how they cant eat veggies bc they r poor as if they didn't pay insane money for liquid sugar.
yeah as if a bag of pre shredded salad is super expensive. Whining about their weight that's their own fault and then begging for money to continue buying tons of food.
Yup. I live in Los Angeles. Fruit and Veggies are a lot cheaper than Oreos. I can eat cartons of Oreos and still not be full, but I’ll get full on a salad (and my wallet will be happier too).
Picture that girl living in Cuba 😂
Buying cookable groceries and having a meal plan is so much less expensive than buying fast food
@kittysoftpaws3677 agreed. I struggled paycheck to pay check until I started meal prep. Eating healthy saves a tonne of money
The United States is one of the easiest places to be fat like we cater to fatness more than anyone else yet she frames fatphobia as a western phenomenon when the eastern hemisphere has extremely rigid standards of weight and beauty. Feels very dismissive of her to ignore that while claiming to be an activist
Yup. In East Asian cultures, most women that are AVERAGE size are shamed to lose weight… and the poor women who are fat, are absolutely ridiculed. Seems very “White-Centric” to not realize or mention about fat phobia being much worse in other places.
@@feonaarabellaparaiso1786 yeah unfortunately a lot of Americans who want to be progressive miss the mark by applying their mindset to the entire world without understanding different global perspectives
@@anma9217 True. I'm from Poland and women here tend to be very slim. If they gain weight, it's usually after having children and/or entering menopause (it's changing somewhat these days what with fast foods being more available and popular, but I'd still say if I see an overweight child, they tend to be boys). In all of my life (I'm 39 now) I've known all of 4 women who were on the heavier size around high school/uni (3 of them have lost weight since and have kept it down), and the 4th one is just built in the way where she has big breast and round hips and thighs (so if she puts on a bit of weight it always goes there), but a tiny waist and a slim face and neck, so she's clearly just not predisposed to be a waif - she's not really fat though, just very voluptuous. Men here tend to get overweight at a much earlier age, I guess due to the social pressure to "be a man and eat like a man, here's your pork knuckle and lots of beer!" Their type of fatness tends to be a big beer gut. The only person I've ever known in real life who was close to having the same type of obesity that I've seen in FA's from these videos was an American man.
When I was in high school, I wanted to be an ESL teacher in South Korea. I was about 5’1” 152lbs. I realized after doing tons of research into the culture that I would be viewed as fat in east Asia, and that terrified me because I was already struggling with an ED. Where in the US I was just a bit overweight, midsize, about a size 14 or 16, Korean people would likely view me as just… big. And judge me as a fat American. It really put things into perspective for me and it was part of the reason I’ve lost like 45lbs since then
I wonder why Virige isn't as enthusiastic about changing the societal factors that lead to food deserts, unwalkable cities, and an unaffordable heathcare system as she is about unrestricted eating?
Nope! She cannot profit offa that!
Oh shit! You didn’t have to be that devastatingly accurate!
Hmm .... I really can't guess *cough CAKE cough*
And proof she doesn't care about actual systemic oppression.
Oh my… thanks for mentioning walkable cities because I’m always analyzing the places I go to and a ton are starting to be not pedestrian friendly; Only catering to cars and yes I am looking at you modern suburbia
I cannot believe there's people who regret not eating foods. Food is not the highlight of my life. I've never met a cake that I regretted not eating mostly because I don't even remember the times that I refused cake or whatever. In social gatherings all she focuses on is the food apparently not the people.
I've never regretted turning down food but I certainly have regretted some that I have eaten and the way it makes my body feel afterwards.
@@amberwolf5371 I also never regret no eating food. I don't look back and say to myself, "I should have had that cheesecake." No, I am happy I didn't have the cheesecake or the upset stomach that follows.
@@bunniisama Definitely! I also love food and I'm more likely to try foods that I don't normally have the chance to eat at home even if they are unhealthy. I just don't understand how someone would regret not eating something as mundane as like, a slice of cake or a donut or a brownie. I've never regretted turning those foods down.
There have been times in which I’ve regretted turning down offered food, however those times generally occurs when I’m sicker than my normal(by that I mean I’m pretty much always sick, my immune system is pretty junky and it’s hard to keep it boosted up as much as I’d like too but the things that help are expensive. My poor immune system directly impacts my food choices as much as a few of my medical conditions do), which limits my already limited diet down(and my current diet isn’t the best[not the worst either, but could be loads better too], and I know that some of what I eat does impact one of my conditions, but the exact diet I should have on the whole is really expensive and currently out of reach so I can only do it partly right now due to financial constraints). However the regret to not eating the food comes from having to turn down needed additional food that I otherwise can’t afford to have… But I know that it’s not the end of the world to have to turn it down because hey maybe my friend or family member can make it again when I am doing better and I can try it then. Ok so maybe that’s more disappointment than regret, still though I love food(especially when it’s made by family and friends cause they make some awesome stuff), but food isn’t the center of my world. I also am decently active(have to be or I won’t be able to walk due to progressive joint issues), so while I’m over my personal max weight for my(as dictated by my poor joints, more weight = more joint pain and issues), I know I can and will drop this little bit of extra weight.
There’s more to life than food, and it’s ok to love/enjoy food it’s just not good or healthy have the kind of relationship with food like these folks do because it’s unhealthy not just physically but emotionally and psychologically as well.
Oh gods, coming across foods that exacerbate issues or just make your tummy mad after eating them… that’s for sure a different type of regret… I tried something yesterday that just…..nope couldn’t even finish it because it was just so awful.
TL;DR: I enjoy and love food(especially foods made by my family and friends), and I regret/get disappointed when I have to turn down food due to my being extra sick(due to my sucky immune system), because extra food helps out a lot to make sure I get enough food(especially if said food helps improve any of my conditions), but it’s not the end of the world when I have to decline said food.
They on the other hand have a poor(and sadly so) relationship with food, and as such place food on a pedestal(almost like they warship an idol in some cases). It’s not just about their physical health being impacted by their poor relationship with food, but they also show emotional and psychological problems too with their unhealthy relationship with food. It’s sad, they really need help, but you can only help those who want help.
@@bunniisama that makes more sense. Like “I regret not getting to try a crepe when I was on vacation in France last year!” Not “I regret not having a piece of that Costco cake the boss brought into work in 2007” 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I used to be obese. I had pcos. I was pre-diabetic. Tired all the time, and I felt trapped in my body. My doctor told me I'd never get better unless I lost the weight. I lost 85lbs. All my levels are normal and the fact I can now have a baby since my periods came back gives me a hope I haven't felt in years. Getting healthy is so powerful. Don't listen to these addicts. Start being real to yourself for yourself n find change
Something similar here, in my 30s I was on antidepressants and at the same time I also started to have thyroid issues. And from having been within the upper range of normal weight to somewhat overweight with evenly distributed weight it made a huge difference when starting to touch the obese range of 30 BMI. I noticed some antidepressants was worse, and I was a fairly active person participating in sports both within team and excercising for myself but everything was hard and I was so tired. Just a brisk walk to the bus causing huffing and puffing or walking up stairs. And an ordinary 5 km easy run became a pain. It was awful, and excercising is very important for my personal wellbeing.
As a thick girl, I think Virgie represents a small margin of bigger girls (definitely not the majority) who are extremely insecure and simply cannot take accountability for their own decisions, she’s made a career and identity projecting her own shame for her relationship to food as the be all and end all for all bigger people. It’s predatory and disgraceful.
I do sympathize with bigger women. At least for guys you just buy the fat version of the same cloths and call it a day. You won't necessarily be stylish, but you won't stand out either. Especially for very big women, it really limits the style and range of cloths a person can wear and reasonably feel comfortable in.
@@JohnDoe-gy5dr If you are short, you can't grow. If you are handicapped, you can't fix it. 99 percent of overweight people can lose weight.
She’s got a bizarre relationship with food. I might venture to call it a food addiction? It consumes so much of her thought process
Am I the only one who's weirded out by the fact that they bring up clothes first as rhe most oppressive thing, yes everyone needs clothes but I'd argue the most important thing on that list is the "medical fatphobia
I’m a tall woman (6 foot) and I use a wheelchair. That makes it hard to buy bottoms. Pants are always too short and dresses fold weird when you sit down.
That isn’t ableist or “tallphobic”. It’s just part of being a person.
Explains why their brains are scrambled eggs ,they can't even come up with one logical argument
I can literally combat their argument with the fact that I have huge feet and boobas, along with being tall. I kid you not that I can only manage to find two pairs of 11Wide in the entire womens section and its usually ugly white sneakers. Literally cannot find boots, heels, and flats anywhere. That doesnt make me opressed.
@@gothica3605 I don't even find the we can't find clothes argument weird. I do think it's unfortunate but not a sign of oppression it's where they put it like it's of highest priority
@@gothica3605 I bought my most recent pair of heels at a drag shop.
I love how they add "at least in the United States", when they talk about lack of clothing sizes😂 they should come to Eastern Europe, where the biggest size in stores is like 12, and explode right there and then😂
@@bunniisama oh it is pretty much the same here in India. Maybe a XXL at most.. only at high end brands. Locally available- the sizes are from XXS to M, L. This has been my knowledge as someone who got up to the XXL size and decided to do something about it. I am now at an L/XL and still in process of sizing down. I have no idea how and where the plus size influencers from my country get their clothes. I see these women who are like.. really obese. Like at least 300 pounds. I wonder where they get clothes.
I live in the US and usually order clothes when I need them, yesterday I tried to go in person and the smallest I could find was medium. I'm probably like, XS or S depending on brand and stuff
They are ignorant and don’t want to acknowledge the rest of the world because they might feel bad
Remember these people don’t consider saying that black people are fat by default as racist
@@vaughnhaney7020 hey 👋🏼 so genuine question, since you are on the opposite side of this spectrum, do you feel similarly about lack of clothing availability? Do you experience similar (but opposite) harassment or bullying for being much smaller than the majority? Do you feel oppressed like the fat activists we see in Funtie’s videos?
The smallest size I can find is a xs in denmark. And I am 145cm. I can't use grown up cloths. I'm 25 and can either shop on shien or go to the teen section in H&M. And still things are too long for me. 😑 were is the shop for shot people??? It's Like totall discrimination 🤣
The fact that virgi said the she has chub rub scars is really hard to hear
I was bigger and chub rub HURTS
so the fact that she went through some time where her thighs rubbing caused not only physical pain but there was enough friction to damage the skin is really sad
And I can't imagine experiencing that and not thinking "the way my body is currently can't be healthy if just walking is cause this much visible damage"
I’m autistic and the idea of my legs rubbing together is my idea of sensory hell. I only ever wear pants for that reason. The idea of someone having chub rub to the point of it scarring, let alone taking pleasure in that, makes me feel so gross.
she could have ended up with a terrible skin infection, even necrotizing fasciitis! what a maroon 🙄
@@realemmcee Also autistic - that’s my queue as to when I need to knuckle down and lose weight because I walk almost 2 hours daily and I hate the chafing that comes with being overweight 😅 Also ADHD so actually managing to knuckle down is…difficult 🙃
She could wear those women's boxer briefs and stop the chub rub!
Michelle from MTWPAY has openly discussed when she was overweight she had times where her thighs friction would literally make her bleed
I’m gay and disabled and I’m really tired of these people trying to compare their *struggles* with actual oppression that we face.
I love how they brought up not finding clothes that fit them as their first issue lmao. I really wish my biggest struggle in life.
Edit: “I can just imagine my double chin as I’m 40, as I’m 50, as I’m 60, as I’m 70”
lmao let me tell you, the majority of my patients are 70+, and those who are older and fat are the ones that are the most miserable. Their joints hurt, they can’t keep up with their grandkids, and they’re bitter. If you want to stay fat to your 70’s, that’s on you. But you will hate yourself and take it out on the rest of us.
You don’t face any oppression.
Every single major corporation literally will go out of their way to hire you just because of “diversity”. Celebrate, because you’re part of the minority you benefit by being that token diverse person employees can have so that you can become a statistic.
The straight white male is the most discriminated against in this country.
exactly my thoughts
How tf not finding cute clothes a struggle? Imagine feeling panicky just because you feel your underwear touching you, because every fabric makes you ill, plenty of neurodivergent people deal with that. Imagine most clothing restraining your mobility when you are already disabled? I myself struggle with finding clothes for tall people, but thats annoying not oppression AND I cant lose height...
@@donamirtz exactly. and i have the opposite problem you do, i’m 5’1 so it’s hard to find any type of pants that aren’t too long or don’t fit the waist or other places. i am also neurodivergent so i don’t have a large variety of clothes i buy, i usually get a lot of clothes comfortable for me in a bunch of different colors lol.
it’s an inconvenience for me, not oppression. and i’ve never felt like i had to complain to the internet about my feelings, i just find solutions to my problems!
I swear. Left handed people have bigger struggles. (Than fat ppl)
Hell I'm left handed and i have had more "oppression" for being taller than average. The worst part about being tall is the fact that some most tables, chairs, and beds are too short to be comfortable in.
Fat people aren't oppressed, their just crybabies who are inconvenienced.
I hate the clothes argument. I’ve been lifting weights for a long time now, and because of that my lats, delts, quads and glutes are pretty big. A lot of things don’t fit my lats and delts very well. I made the choice to gain muscles. So because of my choice to gain muscles, it’s harder to find clothes now. Does that mean that the whole fashion industry has it out for me? No.
I’m very tall - clothes don’t fit me and i DONT choose me- but the fashion industry does not hate me lmfao
@@nora4642 yes that’s very different, that’s why I compared my decisions to theirs. It’s because both me and them have the power to change our bodies. You obviously can’t change your height! But I still feel you as a short girl, 10 years ago I always had to cut my jeans, sleeves etc. I am very glad that we have way more tall and petite brands now :) but yes, I never thought the fashion industry hated me bc I was so short lol
I get you. I work in construction & have a farm, so I've always been a pretty buff gal. I don't wear a lot of "girly" clothes anyway, but I do enjoy wearing sundresses in the summer & they're often too tight in the shoulders unless I buy a larger size that hangs loose instead of fitting properly across the hips. I find it frustrating, but I don't expect the fashion industry to change to suit me. What I do get aggravated about is that most women's work pants (like Carhartt) don't have a hammer hanger on them. Now, THAT I would lobby for change
@@morbidlyxobsessed lol I'm pretty short, a lot of stuff that fits in the hips is way too long. I just bought a sewing machine and learned to hem. I know fabric is expensive but I have to wonder why a lot of these bigger women whining about "clothing oppression" don't just learn how to sew or modify clothes for themselves
@@Panda-cute same I am short and have big glutes and big lats lol. So kinda x shape, yes it’s hard to find stuff but I also sew or just choose brands I know that work for me like brands that carry curve or shape ranges
I lost weight because I was afraid I wasn't gonna wake up and my son would find me dead.
And I wont let that happen. I needed to be healthy not only for him but for myself.
And yes I hated how I looked
And I changed it
What I do to my body has Nothing to do with anyone else's body
As someone in the medical field, I'm not a doctor but losing weight helps almost every single medical issue you have, so yes, lets lose weight and see how these conditions are
exactly!! It's not to shame people, its to see if being fat is masking or causing medical conditions because it usually is! You don't want the 0 to 100 in an instant response when it could be an easy fix.
Yeep! I'm down 80lbs and I'd like to lose another.... Ehhh 60ish but already I feel so dang good. I cannot fathom how awesome I'm going to feel once I meet my goals!
Ooo excited for this one!
I had a very interesting thought about fat acceptance today. They say that bodies come in all shapes and sizes, which is true, but they also say that someone being 100kg overweight is natural, due to genetics and is not their responsibility. But let's look at other species of animals. Horses for example. Some horses are smaller than others, some are bigger, some are taller, more muscular, skinnier. But there are NO OBESE HORSES IN THE WILD! This is the same for literally every animal in the world... except humans and our pets. I.e. the only animals who end up gaining body fat to a level which is out of the norm and causes causes problems are animals who are fed by humans! We live in a food environment which is not natural. Our food is designed in labs, processed into things that aren't even recognisable as food. Food is a way a lot of people make money, so obviously they'd want us to eat a lot! And we need to accept that and work with it, not give into it.
Yes! I also like to use animals as examples to refute the “stigma/medical malpractice/fat phobia causes health issues, not obesity!” point.
Animals only become fat when overfed/underrun. Animals that are obese have more joint degeneration, higher chances of diabetes and some cancers, and shorter lifespans on average. There is absolutely no way those outcomes could be caused by fatphobia because pudgy dogs don’t experience societal pressure (on account of not understanding society).
@@nooneinparticular469 I'd love to see what a fat acceptance person would say in response. Probably would go on the oppresson and "weight loss is impossible" rant. But hunny ill say it once and I'll say it again. The only reason you gain weight is because you're eating more than you burn. (Lots of factors INFLUENCE it but that is the fact)... mic drop
“Obese horses” sounds so funny, I’m sorry 😅
For sure. The fact that fat people reject outright, personal responsibility for how large they grow, is insanity. When food becomes so important to your life that you grieve meals you didn't eat, I'm at a loss to understand.
I agree with you, @Shardi. And horses are great example. Feral horses, all over the world, have approximately the same amount of body fat. Only domestic horses, over-fed by humans, are obese.What's more, these obese horses suffer many of the same health problems that obese humans do, from metabolic issues akin to diabetes, to joint issues, to exercise intolerance. Where's the "oppression" and "fat phobia" there?
Would discussing my skincare routine, which is aimed at slowing signs of aging, mean that I hate old people and don’t think they should exists? Just wondering
Good one :)
Yes. If you use moisturiser, you hate old people and also you are simultaneously the victim of ageist cultural rhetoric. This is, of course, your fault but also immutable. Trying to change your attitude on this means that you're a homophobic asshole, and that time you ate a salad is still victimising me to this day.
lol thanks for making me laugh today
So ageist 💀
Um... obviously?
/s
The point about being surrounded by diet and weight loss talk being fatphobic REALLY grinds my gears. I’m recovered from an eating disorder. I HATE diet and weight loss talk. It can really get under my skin and I avoid it wherever possible. People in my life know I don’t want to talk about that stuff with them. But that doesn’t make people who DO want to talk about it, like… ED-phobic or something? I have my own personal issues with it, and I deal with them how I need to. The lack of personal responsibility for their own feelings is absolutely astounding.
I cannot take their arguments seriously when they start off by wrongly defining fatphobia as being afraid of being fat. That's not the definition. I am so tired of these women projecting their own fears and insecurities onto everyone else and making the whole world look like bad guys.
Edit: I got to the part where the woman asks what about health and Virgie calls her callous and almost fucking explodes. That is so goddamn inappropriate. You cannot act like that. When you're asking a question to a professor, no matter how ridiculous it is, the respectful thing for the professor to do is try to genuinely respond to the question without outright telling that person that their question is dumb. She calls herself an expert and has degrees on fat studies but this is not how a highly educated person speaks when interviewed. I have no respect for Virgie Tovar. She was hurt by that question and responded personally and she shouldn't have done that.
You’re so right, it’s hardcore projection. I think they’d be much happier not assuming what people are thinking about them and just go about their business.
This was straight up PAINFUL to listen to. Virgie is solo self obsessed, so rude and insensitive, yet she absolutely demands that everyone walk on eggshells around her and accept her viewpoints without questions or attempts to actually understand them
I just wanted to say for the people out there that is fat like me and have BOTH PCOS and hypothyroidism: you got this fellas! I went down from 70 kilos to 65 in a matter of two months and still going strong until I reach my healthy weight of 50 kilos! (I'm short) You can do it! It goes slow, it is not easy, but we deserve HEALTH and to be happy with our bodies.
And just wanted to add: since dropping this weight, my knees and back don't hurt, my PCOS got better and my sleep patterns improved a lot
I'm so happy for you. My sister has the same conditions as you and I don't know how to encourage her any more. She goes through periods of dieting (with the guide of a nutritionist) and excercizing where she loses weight but then platoes and goes back to eating poorly and regains the weight. Can you give me some tips that could help her?
Congrats! That's fantastic! 🧡
@@karenperez3534 don't worry your sister can do it! It's just a matter of enthusiasm, motivation and discipline 💞 she needs the correct motivations first! To lose weight for herself, if there is a bodily joint that specially hurts because of her weight, or if she has some cardiac conditions or if she gets tired asap after waking up... And also to take it personally: if other people can, I can do it too! That's what I tell myself. Also 5 minutes before sleeping and after waking up I repeat to myself how my fat is melting naturally and effortlessly.
For exercise, I walk 30 minutes daily and jump down a rope in my backyard for as many loops as I can. My personal mark is 100 loops! And also do 10 minutes of cardiac exercise with CZcams videos. For the diet, I am Hispanic so my food tends to be naturally healthy (gazpacho, menestra, fish in green sauce are some recipes I really recommend!), but maybe instead of 8 cookies when I want a treat, I eat 3 and I indulge in fast food just one meal in the whole week. If I can do with child portions in fast food chains, I treat myself to two meals weekly! It's very important to not eat healthy and clean all the time, just most of the time and still have space for your favorite food because when you eat all healthy and strict is when you have tentations to drop out. Good luck to your sister, she got this 💕
@@funtietimes thank you very much!!! 😁💕
@@Aquelina thank you so much!
Years ago, I had a friend who has become very large (400 lbs in her early 20s). Her major regret was NOT the food she didn't eat. Her major regret was that she could no longer ride horses. And that she couldn't ride bikes with her son. And that she couldn't go hiking with her friends
If I 'listened to my body' the way Virgie wanted me too, I'd ... well, I'd look like Virgie.
And I'm a fatphobic bitch because I don't want to look like Virgie.
My urges are opposite. I would way undereat and drink alcohol more, so I'd absolutely be an alcoholic skeleton or dead. I have to personally fight daily to remind myself to eat with nutrition in mind and not drink to numb emotions :/
Me neither. I prefer to be like I am now. I'm not skinny nor fat.
@@absolutelyridiculous6743 i'm similar! if i just 'listened to my body', i wouldn't eat. because my body doesn't properly give 'hunger cues' (not sure what else to call them, i just mean that when i'm hungry i can't really tell), so i have to make a conscious effort to eat regularly and healthily
I know right. She's just so hard to look at because of all those unnatural roles of fat all over her face and arms.
As an anthropologist - her definition of culture made me cringe so hard
Edit: she has a HUGE lack of any kind of analysis Cuktural or otherwise
Holy crap, that health question sure triggered Virgie!
h*alth. please be respectful and censor sensitive words in my comments.
LMAO
@@funtietimes We'll try to be more sensitive to your reader's f*t asses in the future. :-)
Oh my God. I hadn't gotten to that part yet. And oh my God, I'm practically blushing, how embarrassing for her.
@ the first clip: I'm fat and queer. Guess which one makes my back hurt (aka, is a health issue 🙄) while the other is who I am since birth
You've been fat since birth? How awful! :-)
Yes, I, too, said to my parents, "I'm here, I'm queer, get used to it," and went off to my first day in Kindergarten with my rainbow blanky.
I was 222.6 I’m now 176.4 and idc what anyone says I feel 100x better. I can grocery shop without running out of breath... I can do an 8hr shift at the hospital with my N95 on without struggling for air.
This! I can tie my shoes now!
The way she's talking about food at 14:00 is NOT normal
It's really not, is it.
As someone who dealt with food addiction and BED, this is like tell-tale signs of that. There were moments I was on a "diet" and turned down sweets or fried food, only to be thinking of those foods later on and how good they probably tasted. It's definitely a mental thing and I think the only real way out is therapy and talking with a nutritionist because it can be very difficult to try to get out of on your own.
*Obesity Health Consequences*
(1) High blood pressure
(2) Type 2 diabetes
(3) Stroke
(4) Coronary heart disease
(5) Gallbladder disease
(6) Osteoarthritis
(7) High LDL cholesterol
(8) Low HDL cholesterol
(9) Anxiety
(10) Clinical depression
It's absolutely aggravating that fat activists deny the health complications of obesity when medical professionals have proven otherwise.
Body-shaming is completely different from educating somone on obesity health consequences, they shouldn't even be compared.
But fatphobia is worse than all of those things combined.
Right Virgie?
It is sad that this list is probably only the tip of the iceburg.
Denial gives them permission to stuff themselves with garbage
Don't forget the skin break down and ulcers they get underneath their pannus. No one talks about this but it's there. Look up ulcers due to sweat and skin rashes ,it's gross and dangerous to morbidly obese people.
The thing is that their logic, egged on by some medical professionals who shall remain nameless, is that all those things are not causes by obesity, but by the stress fatphobia causes. Don’t ask them to explain why the same doesn’t apply to people facing racism and homophobia though.
I have a good obsession and BED and you’re telling me to not restrict my food 💀I’d be back to being overweight in a month. I didn’t spend 4 years and countless days in the gym to be fit just to go back to being out of breath after taking a 10 min walk. Absurd and dangerous advice. Disgrace.
My response to her sweeping statement that 70% of our health is determined by society and only 30% is in our control ?
Citation needed....
lol right? Also, I’m going to need some kind of compensation from society for the health issues I was doled out since they are responsible for 70% of it.
@@killerhotdog absolutely!!!! Wherws my thin privilege pay?
And where is my comp for listening to such drivel?
Stay strong pal 😃😃😃🤟
At least some good came out of the body positivity (fat acceptance) movement. Its motivated a lot of people to get back in the gym and get healthy. Myself included.
same.
me too
Same
Genuine question, do they actually not know the difference between dieting and restrictive eating disorders or do they just try to mix them so it fits their own views?
The latter
@@deltasaves agreed. A clear lack of education. Dieting is fine if it's done under a doctor's supervision and there's an understanding that it's for a medical condition or working towards a healthier lifestyle in general. These people seem to think that this is just an ED
It's super weird how offended they get about being weighed by a doctor or nurse. I don't understand why they believe it's their appearance that we hate about them and not that we're concerned for their joint health, bone density and heart/kidney health.
I really want them to understand the simple concept of calories in & calories out.
If you attempt to argue the last point with them, they have a combination of genetic fatalism, mysticism and claims that the human body is exempt from physical laws for undefined reasons. It's quite fascinating, in a perverse way.
People need to be weighed so that the proper amount of meds can be administered. The level of stupid in these people.
I honestly don't think fatphobia is real. I mostly see white, cis, straight, able bodied, women talking about it being comparable to oppression. "its rooted in racism" then why are you, a white woman, experiencing this thing that is rooted in black women not being taken seriously/being shamed? (according to them at least)
body shaming is completely real and a problem, but is not oppression.
The people at the forefront of the "movement" are wealthy white women.
@@realemmcee exactly. they always say that some people are too poor/busy to lose weight when they have enough free time to argue with people on the internet. they're really just trying to be saviours or make themselves a victim
No it's not a problem. If someone is not nice to you because of what you look like then do not associate with them. Problem solved. Why is it all of a sudden our duty to force people to include those they don't want around them? If someone doesn't like you for being fat, the answer is not to force them to include you, the answer is to stay away from them. This is not a problem. "Body shaming" is a trendy word for someone being a jerk and if someone's a jerk to you, have some respect about yourself and stay away instead of forcing them to accept you. This is a made up problem from those with low self esteem trying to force more conventionally attractive people to pretend we are all the same to sooth their bruised egos.
You’re joking. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. The fact that fat is an insult and skinny isn’t when they can both be just as unhealthy is fat phobia. And before you get your panties in a twist over the previous statement, just remember everyone says “I wish I was skinny.” And not “I wish I was fat.”
@@mindflayer0319 oh shut up LMFAOO
I am in recovery for my eating disorder and actively trying to get chub on my body, so no
people making fun of you and calling you ugly is rude and a problem, but it is not oppression because people are calling something more attractive and the other ugly, something that happens all the time
Talking about diet can be triggering for some people but also talking constantly about food can be triggering for people with bulimia 🤷
Facts 😳
I am struggling with bulimia and this hits hard
@@bhafferty5184 I wish for you to find all the help you need to win this battle 💖
"Am I thinking of this person as a fat person or am I thinking of this person as a human being?" Well fat people are human beings, so yeah. Either is ok right?
I don’t particularly enjoy watching what I eat/ “restricting” my food intake. I just really HATE the feeling after eating an entire sleeve of birthday cake Oreos or trying to cover my torso with my arms when I’m at the pool. After cutting off many bad habits I developed in my teen years (I’m now 20) I’m stronger more muscular and more confident than ever. I haven’t had a sip of soda in years despite drinking Dr Pepper religiously as a kid. Don’t be like Virgie, find comfort in your mind and body rather than tasty cakes and slurpees.
can you tell me if you don't mind how can I do this too bec I'm always struggling with food (TW binge ed) and I t
have tried everything it's really controlling my life
thank you in advance
@@cooleex9036 first ask yourself if you really want to change yourself and your body, then when you see something that you want to eat but know you shouldn’t think about how long you’ll feel good after eating it. For example: I walked into my kitchen today and saw a box of Swiss rolls, I wanted to eat one but then I remembered the taste and satisfaction a sweet snack gives you lasts about a minute total IF that. Then after the sweet taste leaves I feel like shit again. So just think ahead that’s really all I do and it works for me
@@Nettspendfan122 your comment inspired me :) I have a horrible sweet tooth but as I've hit my 20s I've realized its started to make me feel sick, make my teeth hurt, and just isn't as appealing sometimes. I went wild my first year in college, got fat (I'm 5'2" so it's not hard) and hated how my joints ached constantly from the waist down. I lost the weight but still dislike my body, I just hate exercise and depression makes it really hard to plan and cook. But I want to try and get healthier so that I can love how I look and feel good all the time!!
I think being skinnier will make me happier because I will hopefully be in less chronic pain, have more energy, and just enjoy my body more than I ever have. Yet "fat activists" would tell me this is wrong. I still do like soda and things like candy on occasion, but I've cut down on them a lot. Like having sweets every day to maybe every two weeks, which I'm proud of.
My goal this summer is to get abs and defined muscle on my arms and legs- not too much but enough to not feel weak. Sorry if this is all a bit of a rant for you but your comment really resonated with me today. Wish you the best! :)
It is illegal to pay anyone less than others who are doing the exact same thing. With fat people, there's only so much they can do and they can't do things that smaller people can. I watch these Fat Tok videos and these women are out of breath just sitting there talking. They really think they can do the same amount of work for the same amount of time as smaller people?? If you can't work as long, you won't get paid for what you don't do.
Dude employers find ways around it. They’ll cut ur hours so you’ll definitely get paid less. Trust me. I am a disabled gal here 😅 they will send ur ass home & fire u if u don’t wanna go
… Nah, employers do it all the time. That’s why for a long time they always said that “it’s inappropriate to talk about your salary to other employees.” I actually got a coworker’s pay raised by $3 more per hour when I was younger, because he told me his wage and I was shocked it was significantly lower than mine. Talked to the manager about it and they gave him a pay raise to match mine right away.
It happen with everyone not even just fat people,hence the whole ‘don’t talk about your salary with your co-workers)
It is not illegal. Women have been underpaid since “Let there be light.”
I am always baffled at these people who say to be on a diet in order to intentionally lose weight you’re going to have to feel starving all the time. I’m 4 months into a diet, lost 20lbs and have only felt that more primal level of hunger like 3 times so far and those had explainable reasons. It seems more psychological rather than physiological if you’re obsessing over food because you ate the equivalent to a slice of bread less for a meal.
It's a matter of perspective. It's quite likely that they have never experienced true hunger, and therefore imagine it to be an unbearable torment that anything else (i.e: weighing 400kg) is preferable.
Here in Canada we have a real problem with obesity too. If our population was bigger I’m sure we’d be right behind America in just how many obese people exist which is a real shame for both countries. I’m not saying it’s right but when a person is obese all we end up seeing is the weight and not really the person them self.
Especially if it's something you don't know
All you have to judge them off of is their appearance
And it sucks but society and people have always been that way
One of my best friends is overweight and she's creative and passionate about her projects, she's funny and really easy to talk to
Fat people don't have a harder time being friends with people because of their weight like they said in the video
They(in the video) have a hard time because of their personality
"Societal factors" does not just mean "people being nice or mean to you". It means access to quality food, having the time to exercise and sleep, living in a place that allows for quality rest and sleep, living in an area polluted or not, having a dangerous job or not, access to medical care etc etc.
So basically it's very concrete physical stuff. And food is part of it.
Yeah I think this is why virgie grinds my gears...there are very real policies that can be put in place to improve people's health and she focuses on interpersonal interactions / consumerism.
I liked the body positivity movement when it first became popular & said that everyone deserves respect, regardless of what a person might look like (height, scars, skin color, disabilities, etc.) & that not your diet might look different from someone else’s (based on height, age, & medical issues like thyroid issues, diabetes, or PCOS) & that’s okay, but I despise how it’s taken a turn & is pushing to say that it’s okay to be fat & that fat is healthy when it’s not. It’s not oppression to point out how being obese will cause current & future health issues
I kinda feel bad for virgie. She sounds like she has a serious food addiction.
Like I watch what I eat, I try to eat fruits and veggies, not a lot of sugar, ect.. so I do "restrict what I eat" but I can't recall at any point a particular individual case of not eating. Like I know at times I haven't eaten sweets because I knew it wasn't good for me but I don't have a catalogue of "I didn't have a slice of cake at work during susies' birthday party" or "when I went out with my friend visiting from out of state I didn't order a sugary drink". Both of those are made up circumstances because I literally can't recall anything like that. I recall telling susie happy birthday and joe cracking a joke, or I recall my friend visiting and talking about her new job. Food doesn't play such a huge role in my life that I can remember individual cases. it seems extremely sad that so much of virgie's life seems to revolve around eating. Eating is just eating for me, if I'm hungry I'll grab something I feel like eating that's reasonably healthy if needed, and then I move on. I wouldn't even describe eating as a "joy", it's just kinda something that is there. I'll go out to eat with friends because of my friends, not a strange worship of food. If I couldnlt eat for one reason or another I wouldn't feel like I'm "missing this joy in life" because the joy comes from the people not the food.
It's really sad. You should not be this focused on food, good or bad. You shouldn't stress over every upcoming meal or snack you have in life but you also shouldn't treat it like some glorious fantastic thing. It's like breathing, it's just kinda there.
It seems like doctors always focus on making fat peoples stomachs smaller when I think they should treat it by temporarily "disabling" taste buds so people don't get that positive feedback in the brain from eating and they'll learn how to feed the need of being hungry.
Idk man coming home and eating after a hard day of work feels pretty rewarding to me
For me... I love food. I get so much joy out of food, and meeting with friends over good food is so much fun for me both because of my friends and because of the food. I'll go out to eat on my own because I'm craving pho or whatever. HOWEVER. I have never looked back and grieved food that I didn't eat! That's just really bizarre. Eating good food is such a short-lived pleasure that it really just doesn't take up that much emotional space. I think Virgie needs to address that whether or not she restricts her eating, she is letting her life be controlled by food.
Here is a concept that these people would never accept or even believe: I enjoy dieting and eating healthy. Making lower calorie high protein foods. It is fun to cook and bake these dishes and enjoy how great they come out in spite of being healthier.
Yes!
I love my restrictions
They help me not to overeat. Im sry that im so stupid to not being able to avoid it without restrictions but it is like it is
Already lost 30 pounds, still need 10 for my goal
Yes!!! Exactly, I started my diet 2 years ago and I love it, I eat fruits, veggies and enjoy water now - I would never go back!!
Amen!
So many of these arguments they make are just projecting their own insecurities. I prefer the way that I look and feel when I'm thinner but that doesn't mean I was afraid of or hated myself when I was fatter. It just got to a point where the extra weight was effecting my health negatively which is ultimately why I decided I needed to lose weight. To assume that the only reason for weightloss is due to insecurities or fear of being mistreated is just ridiculous.
Also, edit to add because I just got to the end, I HAVE to restrict my food. I can't just intuitively eat because I end up eating too much and gaining weight which is very bad for me due to my back problems. Last year I gained too much weight and my back started to hurt so bad that I couldn't even walk normal. Getting up from bed and walking to my bathroom sink was a challenge. I had to go to physical therapy and lose weight for my back to feel normal again (and by normal I mean back to my baseline. I've always got a bit of back pain) So, good for them that they don't have to think about it and suffer any consequences in the moment but I don't have that luxury.
Totally.
Even if it was the only reason, it would still be a valid reason to getting started. I don't know why they feel the need to be condescending about it.
I looked up the hosts and well their poster illustration isn't portraying them quite correctly, is it? Why isn't one drawn significantly bigger set? Both totally look like the same sized persons. I don't wanna get down to the appearances but since they're all about being happy and proud of how they look....
At least feature a double chin? It's something that anyone can have (whether fat or small) and can't get rid off just by dieting (sometimes).
There’s way worse things in life than people wanting to be fit. Lol. I don’t understand why these women care. Be fat if you want too! It comes off envious as they don’t want to put the work in to get healthy so they want everyone else to be big with them.
virgie really just out here projecting and making it everybody else's problem lmao
I love the longer format videos! If you have the time, I would really love to see some longer TikTok videos. Maybe focussed on a single creator, like with your videos on William and that insecure chick?
I'd love to see an exposè on Marissa or everyone's favourite(?) Eeyore, fatsapphicbro
"That insecure chick" comprises most of them tbf. But yes, these longer videos are great!
I think that what bothers me the most about this kind of people il the level of entitlement they feel they have on other peoples’ bodies. Even if someone wanted to lose weight because they think they’d feel/look prettier if they were skinnier, that’s none of their business! Also the fact that they try to make you feel guilty for not finding them attractive. Like, sue me for wanting a partner who won’t be bed bound by the time they’re 60.
They have a high chance of dying before 60 than being bed bound at 60. And that is truly sad
In relation to the bias of medical staff, I dare you to have a discusion with a surgeon about what they think of doing work on a fat person versus a thin one.
I just struggle with their attitude that staff should break their backs due to having to move such large patients. We all have different size ranges clearly, but these are people who are arguing about the mythical fat phobia, and are 300+ pounds and think this is okay and act so entitled.
They genuinely believe that all medical staff hate them simply because they do, perhaps because said staff don't tell them what they want to hear.
also this is literally just evidence that enormous quantities of super unhealthy foods every single day for years melts your brain (half joking lol)
bruh 😭😭😭💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It really does though.
Especially American foods. Sorry guys. Europe has banned substances that are still condoned by the FDA. I wouldn't be surprised if these additives affect brain function.
Listening to Virgie talk really shows how obsessed and addicted to food she is. I have the same problem, the only difference is that I'm trying to change myself. These videos honestly keep me from binging.
Reason why I don't want to be fat: I like my freedom of movement. I love being able to run and jump and play rugby with my little nephews and and be able to carry a backpack all around Europe and South America, how I can run up a flight of stairs, or pick up my mail without being out of breath, I like being able to wipe my own butt, and not having rashes between fat folds. Oh no, the horror of fatphobia!
Yeah , she is right - doctors don’t aim to treat the symptoms of that fat people complain about. By telling them to lose weight, doctors actually aim to treat the causes of their problems. But Vergie, whose knees are most likely on fire, is hoping just to walk away from the doctor responsibility free with a pain killer prescription in hand.
"I can choose to eat healthier and exercise today, I can't change society today". You're sooo right. I needed to hear those words, thanks, FT.
In my life, it took about 30 years before I actually began to truly love myself. I had to sift through 30ish years of experience in life to realize a lot of truths and unlearn a lot of UN-truths (lol or lies)
Some things I can definitely say:
1) exercise makes me feel better, I don’t like to admit it 😆 but it’s the truth.
2) not eating any and everything that I want has made me physically feel so much better.
3) not eating any and everything that I want has also made me mentally feel so much better.
4) there’s nothing wrong with liking the way my body looks now, better than when I was quite literally unhealthier 40lbs ago.
5) projection is a b*tch
I NEED to hear a debate between a fat activist and a "fatphobe." Two people with strong opinions talking back and forth.
Jubilee get on this rn lmao
@@shenquanruiwife69 yeah, but I want it high school debate club style.
I’ve never understood the “70% of our health/weight is determined by factors out of your control”. How do you quantify health, as such a broad term? Life expectancy? Quality of life? I don’t think there’s an answer and so that 70% stat seems made up or irrelevant. And if it is literal weight then a 200 pound person could naturally and easily lose 60 pounds easily.
exactly🙄. it's so vague.
And so what? I have genetically high cholesterol. I moderate my diet to keep fatty crap out of it, and simple sugars (that happily turn into triglycerides, which aren't made of fairy dust) to a minimum. I see my doctor, who put me on a cholesterol medication in my mid-twenties when it went through the roof. I have a genetic heart arrhythmia. Meds for that. I'm asymptomatic for decades. I keep my weight down to keep the stress off my heart, plus enough cardio to keep things in shape.
I'm now 53. Compared to my father, who was already in terrible shape by this age, I look 30 (except for the slight bit of gray in the wild shock of auburn hair), feel better than half the 30 year olds I know, and can reasonably expect to shoot right past the 68 years he lived.
My genetics SUCK. They're outside my immediate "control." But not outside my influence and I can do something with my lifestyle and monitoring and medications and doctor's visits.
Just wait until they start with the 95% one. You'll know it when you see it.
When I studied this concept in medical school I think (sorry it was a long time ago) it was based off morbidity (so how likely you are to develop certain diseases) and mortality (so yes, life expectancy). So yes, it’s thought that for example your socioeconomic status you are born into effects your health more than factors you can control. However, I still don’t think this means we shouldn’t *try* and control the remaining 30%. Like, we don’t tell people to smoke or binge drink alcohol every day just because “oh you can’t control 70% of the other factors!” It makes no sense.
@@nithyajoanna2034 Even if we take it as complete gospel (and it is, to some extent), really ruining that 30% can totally drag down the 70% even if was at good advantage. Not trying at all and getting a perfect score on socioeconomics would only give you a C-.
And nobody gets a flat 0 on their birth and early life. I grew up borderline upper-middle, lower-upper class and do fairly well overall in what I can control. My overall heath is, unsurprisingly, in middle-middle age, quite good.
honestly tho, you CAN find mostly everything in XXXL. Its just that these people dont like seeing themselves in whats available, thinking that stuff looks unflattering on them, when actually 1) its their body that makes most of that unflattering look and 2) EVERYONE struggles with unflattering outfits
Like yes! Exactly 💯 somone plizz explain it to them 🤣
I usually fit a size medium and 95% of clothes in mainstream stores are either too expensive, ugly, don’t fit me properly, aren’t conservative/modest enough for my religious needs, are made of bad fabric that gives me a rash, or a combination of the above. Struggling with clothes shopping is not unique to obese people
Lol and I’m barely taller than average height and have a proportionate hourglass body shape. Finding clothes is was harder for my skinny friends who are very petite, or 5’10 and built like a runway model.
I have pixie cuts and I am getting muscular for a chick. Not every guy finds that hot. You, Virgi, are not entitled to another person's affections and sexual preferences are not bigoted, no matter what you say. I am not attracted to obese men or super underweight men. Their lack of health tells me they have poor self control, they don't really care enough to live, to say a few. I am attracted to healthy men. Men are entitled to be attracted to healthy women.
10:57 yeah it’s hard for a LOT of people to find fancy clothes like that, yknow why? Clothes are made for the average person as it makes the company more money. I’m pretty short and my whole life i’ve either had to sew my own dresses or tailor store-bought ones at home because all of them are too long. Is that shortphobia? Not at all, i just have to accept that i don’t have to average body and adapt, and i highly suggest Virgie do the same. That or, yknow, lose some weight.
For my sister’s wedding I, my uncle and my father all had to have our tuxedos tailored to fit us specially because all of us have unusually broad shoulders, thick arms and smaller stomachs. Jee it’s almost like deviating from the norm whether in the more muscular way or the fat way makes you have to get stuff modified to fit you hu? Imagine that.
Healthy At Every Size is what got me to delete Instagram years ago and I'm so glad I did. I never drank the Kool aid, I'm not that impressionable,it's just very sad to see how wrong the fat acceptance community is about pretty much everything. These fat communities are horrible. Loving yourself is one thing but lying to yourself about health and obesity is just wrong. I went from 360 to 200 and still working on getting to a healthy weight, and guess what? I'm waaaaay better off, imagine that? 🤔
*OMG my body is like a cactus and that's so cute and amazing :3 Next I'm going to compare my hardened skin around my swollen Lipoedema legs to hard tree bark because that must also be normal for human skin because it's in nature!*
OMG I heard Virgie's stupid valley girl speech pattern when reading this.
"And then I went to the cemetery and got a look at where I'll be in about ten years if I keep eating everything that isn't nailed down."
Only a few seconds in and I’m already disproportionately angry at the gay/fatness comparison. Being obese is a choice, being gay is NOT - sincerely, a very distressed gay
Honestly. Chub rub is SO painful and its how I know i cant let myself get bigger
Not to mention what it does to your pants.
@@anonmouse15 😱
As a (what they think) is a "small fat" person, I have NEVER been fat shamed. I have never had problems finding romantic relationships bcs of my weight. I can find clothes that fit me. Still I'm on a journey to lose weight. My desire to lose weight has nothing to do with "oppression" or "fat phobia" it has to do with me wanting to set a good example for my child and as a mother be in the best physical health I can be, so I can keep up with my child and have the energy to do things with him every day. Even though I have never been shamed for my weight and most people don't consider me fat, I still want to live a healthy lifestyle for MYSELF. I can feel how good my body feels when I eat the right things vs junk
I'd love to see Virgie respond to Funtie, lol!
It's pretty obvious that Vergie (and likely a lot of the people who agree with her) are at least borderline obsessed with food. What mentally healthy person looks back and the first thing that comes to mind is the meals they missed?
And that ending bit... At first I was like, "Oh, she's going to talk about taking a nature walk. Walking is good." and by the end I was like, "What the fuck?"
"i went out in nature to find plants that look like my inner thigh" ☺✨🌵
Having heard that, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell that meansXDDD
"Now I feel like I have to fight a cactus... to the death" I think is my new favorite line
I did hate myself, and did self harm by over eating and became obese, and now I am a type two diabetic. So now I am doing things to show love to myself, by making better choices in food, by exercising daily, drinking the water, and I quit smoking. This was a major wake up call. Just like when I got sober 13+ years ago I now need to take care of my health because I don’t want to die of a heart attack, stroke, or lose limbs because I wanted several Big Macs.
I can't believe I just googled "Virgie Tovar's inner thigh".
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠
Virgie just unleashed a war against poor, unsuspecting cactuses everywhere...
7:40
I love how Fergie talks about the job selection stuff without any references. I thought she had PhD in this fatness stuff. She should have at least 5 or 6 studies on tip of her tongue to prove her points
Glad to have you back! I hope your break went well and was relaxing and fulfilling. I'm excited to see you tear into Virgie specifically, cause I believe she is a bad influence who spews misinformation about weight, diet, and such stuff. Drag her! Slay her! xD
What I’m hearing, especially regarding the medical community (by which I was told for years my horrible joint pain was due to being overweight even though RA runs in my family - I finally got someone to listen to me and test appropriately and now I’m on chemotherapy for RA, but it’s too late because now I’m bed bound at 190lb due to the doctors who said I was just fat delaying my treatment) in particular, but also regarding the employment outlook of obese people, etc - are excellent arguments for why obese people need to lose weight. How does it make sense to put the onus 100% on society to change, when the power to eliminate these problems lies with each individual that has to deal with them?
Can you make a whole video dedicated to Marisa? She has been getting on my nerves lately.
1960's young people were talking about stopping war and racism....now, so much controversy and discussions around the 'fat movement'...wtf...humans truly are regressing.
Yes! Why can't these people campaign for exercise groups, healthy community meals and communal veg gardens so people don't get obese and enjoy being healthy.
It's amazing how many of them are _obsessed_ w. food/eating, & yet despite that being the common behavioural denominator, they still flat-out deny that details of consumption may have something to do w. their _universal_ common denominator, which is being fleshier than medical science advises. And I know what food obsession looks like, as it is a problem I have long struggled w., myself - tho I went in the other direction, & have to wrestle w. my _fear_ of the power it has over me, resulting in my own reactive anorexia (in recovery now for 3 years).
Not to be pot calling the kettle black, but I don't have to be healthy myself to be able to recognise the opposite extreme when I see it. But I'm a fatphobe, so what TF do I know, right? >.>
oh boy.. the way they talk about food is so obsessive, it reminds me of my bad ed days but in the other direction..
“That triggered my fight or flight response” 😂😂😂
The last part had me cracking up sm. Fight a cactus... to the d e a t h.
Loved this video. Was an the treadmill while listening to you and had a few good laughs.
I like long videos 👍☺️💜
I have been watching lots of your videos lately and your responses are excellent and based in logic and reason. Bravo!!
I love your comparison to other physical deformities. I have SH scars everywhere (I’m not saying this for sympathy, it’s a good comparison) and get Icked out going to the beach and stuff. I get lots of stares and blatant comments from people close to me about how it makes me look ‘unstable’ or ‘gross’. You know what? That may not be nice, but it’s not a systemic struggle I’d compare to racism or homophobia. It’s not something I’d make a whole movement about claiming it’s everyone else’s fault but mine. (Let’s ignore the fact the original body positivity movement’s intention to be support for people with burns/scars/other deformities for the sake of the argument) It’s an even better comparison because you know what? I put those scars there. Fat people put the fat there themselves too. I won’t act like I’m being systemically oppressed because the deformities I’ve put on myself get shamed now and then.
And to add another perspective, from someone with a stress disorder, the guilt tripping they give is fucking insane. They say over again “you’re not doing enough. You will never be doing enough. You’re a shitty hateful bigoted person” for not giving 100% of your mental energy to this fight when they KNOW people say the same shit about a million other topics can only push people to their breaking point. The entitlement to expect 1000% of someone’s time to be spent yelling about every social issue and you have the fucking nads to call that “just basic decency” and “the bare minimum”??
the worst thing... dieting is not avoiding joy. It's a trade off? I enjoy looking certain way, I enjoy being comfy, I enjoy monkey parks (that one with walking on lines around trees?) I LOOOVE lunaparks and rollercoasters... I love so many things that might be impossible to enjoy if I was at certain weight... the cost of eating food I love in moderation is not that high... i can manage. I'm I'm glad I can eat the bag of chips from time to time and that's enough for me, don't need to eat two everyday to feel happy X"D
A 38 min funtie times video while I work out? Yessss!
I love this channel! Such great content
These podcasts with your commentary make the perfect addition to my morning bike rides. Don't get me wrong, the TikTok compilations are great, please don't stop, but you've got quite a knack for these videos. I enjoy what you have to say and they provide great motivation. Keep it up!
Dude, you're awesome. I love you calmly and rationally pointing out how what they're doing is the exact opposite of rational or logical
Just got back from work, so im going to relax and watch this!
37:10 "🌸🌻🌼⭐︎ that's so beautiful...🌸🌻🌼⭐︎ " "No it isn't" lmaooooooooooooo
Absolutely love your content. I listen to it when i do the cardio portion of my workouts. Almost a 40 minute video! Today we eat!
Thank you for speaking the true common sense! 🙏 Hope the channel will grow even faster; people need to hear this BAD! 😅
My father-in-law lost fifty+ pounds because he was told if he didn’t he was going to get liver disease and that he was already in the earliest stages. He completely reversed the condition. How dare anyone say the only reason to lose weight is “I hate myself.” That’s absolutely insulting to anyone that’s done it for themselves and for their health.
yoooooo i was needing a video from u rn
It reminds me of middle school and thinking everyone is looking at you and the world revolves around you. They seem to be stuck in that mindset while in reality no one cares. We’re too busy with our own lives and problems.