The Perfect Fallout 4 Playthrough Part 3 - The Elusive Level 4 Merchants SETTLEMENT GUIDE
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- In this video, I teach you how to acquire the level 4 merchants. This hinges on following Part 1, and Part 2, so be sure to watch those videos.
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Just to point it out, this is the holy grail of unique trader recruiting out there. I have seen loads of videos on how to obtain them, but this is the only method that has truly worked with 100% result. It took a long time to set up, but once it was done, recruiting the traders was no issue at all.
Cheers on being perhaps the only creator with a video dealing with this topic with a successful formula to make it work.
Wow! What a compliment! It was a ton of work but yes, I feel comfortable saying this is the best method for attaining all of the merchants with reliability. Thank you so much for the wonderful feedback!
Good work deserves recognition. Videos on the topic have so far been on how buggy it is and the go-to solution has been console commands to fix the issue. What you did was not just show that it`s not a bug, but show how it actually works through the already existing game mechanics. And in doing so show why it can mistakenly be seen as a bug, not just just a bad game mechanic, and explain precisely how it really works in detail.
After seeing the video I decided to test it myself to verify if it worked, and got them all with no issue at all on the first try. So your guide is not only on point, but could possibly be unique on the topic, as I haven`t seen any video like it so far, and I used to watch a lot of videos on the topic from all kinds of channels, big and small, before reaching the conclusion that it was a bug. Not only can it be done without cheating, but it`s really easy, just time consuming. Hence the praise is well placed.
@@TheEfficientGamer I would also add that I have tested the spawn trigger where you find Trashcan Carla, and you can pick up both Smiling Larry and The Scribe at said point with ease. Came from the base of the bridge with the gunner camp west of Walden Pond, and the trigger is just a small leap before the stone where Trashcan Carla is found when following the road. There was a couple of small treeclusters before the stone and if you make the save beside the second one, then go across the road to where Carla sat, you can circle back to the north side of the rock and the instance is triggered. The elevation of the rock allows you to vats the target with a rifle to see the encounter. Makes the trip to Cambrige unnecessary as it can all be done around Concord.
When you get Carla, always check that spawn to ve sure they havent triggered Larry or the Scribe just to be sure.
Worked like a charm on PS4... Yes, takes a while... Specially on survival not using the fast travel... But the clenching making sure that you don't trigger any events while trying to return to sanctuary was worth it. Thanks dude.
I always have all traders using this methode on PS4. Now Iam playing PC still workimg the same way. Yes the methode is tediously long. But most definitly worth all the effort
I spent all day today trying to get Ron Staples then I read on the Fallout wiki that some of the campsite encounters only show up at night. My save at the stop sign was 8 am, so I waited until 8 pm and made a new save. I started seeing new encounters like Dreth, and then finally Ron Staples himself.
about the same story here, I like Ron's Personality but he's quite Elusive which is why I haven't recruited him yet. I should try it at night.
Thank u
Makes sense. Bartender at night. I've never seen him in the daytime
thank you so much, without this your comment it would have taken me hours.
god bless this comment, i wasted 3 entire irl hours before reading this and realizing.
Was able to get all four traveling merchants for the first time!
Couple things to mention for anyone else attempting this:
-Tenpines Bluff area is a no go zone until you are ready to recruit. The rail tracks right next to the cliff spawn a fluid encounter.
-Walden pond is also a no go zone until ready - there is a campsite encounter just south of there. You CAN go into sunshine tidings to get the magazine/set up a settlement if you want. It's far enough away that the encounter does not spawn.
Thank you Efficient Gamer for the excellent info - enjoyed learning these behind the scenes mechanics. Despite the buggy nature of the game, the mechanics of these encounters seemed fairly reliable.
Took me 14 hours to get the settlers, but only in an hour i got all 4 random encounter ones. Thank you!
Any tips on getting the traders to show up more? Ive got a lvl 3 bar tender, someone pulling crops for the gang, and a provisioner line. I send anyone new over to redrocket to keep the limit under 5 for that bonus and happiness easily high but... damn every day i feel like i should pull better odds at a new settler with no dice
you on PS?
Like the editing on this video I can tell you put a lot of effort into it.
Thanks! I appreciate that. I do work hard on editing. I don’t have a background or formal training, so it takes longer and it’s not perfect, but I do my best.
Not sure how I missed Fallout 4 for so long but finally got it a few months back and have literally done nothing but play it since. Watching your series makes me wanna start another new character even though I've already restarted like 6 times so far lol. Keep up great content
This is like a year and a half late, but right down near the Sunshine Tiding Co-op is another campsite that makes for an easy safe NPC spawn location as well.
I don’t think I’ve ever managed to get all the unique traders in a single game, but I am very glad there isn’t a trophy/achievement for doing something so tedious.
I’m trying to up my thumbnail game! Let me know what you think!
I like it 😄
Cant wait for the next episode.👍
Holy shit finally, trying to get Ron for the longest time, nowhere else mentioned you need to already have a level 3 store built! Thank you thank you thank you! So glad people are still loving this game and posting useful things about it!
Thanks for this. I ran across him early in the game, but I was unable to recruit him. Now I know why.
Can it also be a lvl 4 store built?
@@efrenvaladez6207 level 4 stores can't be built. It's just a level 3 store with a legendary merchant
XBOX ISSUE FIXED -- I followed this guide to a T. I went to use the Campfire East of Concord and ended up getting Ron Staples relatively easily. I then tried to get doc Anderson for an entire hour and she did not spawn. to fix this. After talking to Ron Staples, I went to sanctuary, assigned him to the level 3 bar. And then fast travel back to red rocket. I then repeated these steps to go through the campfire East of Concord. But instead of using that site as the farming site. I continued over towards the cabin by dremlin diner. I made a quick save around the. Broken down Billboard and continued over to the small shack. I got doc Anderson on the second try..
Amazing well thought out video, thank you!!
But how do you fix Ron's inventory ? He keeps saying his selection is limited.
@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx He still says this for me, im not sure on that one. I left it alone cause I have the rest of them and I have an insane amount of caps from the water farm so...
This way worked for me as well. I started at Red Rocket ran to the parking lot and what ever encounter happened I went in and interacted, then ran to the cabin by Dremlin and did that encounter, fast travel back to red rocket and repeat. Got Ron on the second run at the parking lot and Doc Anderson at the cabin on the fourth run.
I’ve not seen any other video explain this. After nearly 8 years of playing this game I’m still learning stuff! Kudos to you sir
These videos have been extremely reliable for me in getting these traders even in a fully survival no mods run, so far I've gotten Ron Staples and Doc Anderson and later today I'm gonna gear up and try for The Scribe and Smiling Larry.
Good luck!
@@TheEfficientGamer The Scribe and Smiling Larry are now honorary citizens of Sanctuary.
I was unable to get Doc Anderson to cooperate this playthrough, until referring to your video. Super helpful. Thanks.
Part four's really kicking your backside, huh?
Good luck with it. Thanks for this one, I've learned a lot about the game from your videos.
I blame WoW TBC
Don't know if you planned on doing a part 4 but one tip that can be useful is completing Nuka world and building tribute chests, booze stills and Chem stations at some settlements then kill all the raiders before completing "The First Step" for Preston. This allows you to keep all those items in your settlement so long as you don't scrap them.
One warning though, a settler or raider interacting with the tribute chest will cause a crash, so try to make them inaccessible to NPCs.
Loving this series mate!
Keep it up with the Fallout 4 content please 🥺
This was a great video btw. I already knew most of this, but I did not know that once you encounter these guys, they're gone forever. I always suspected this, but it is good to see it confirmed.
I've never commented on a video or channel before, but wanted to say thank you for this series. Absolute gem to find, as you've done some amazing research and testing. I've added a little below for Survival players too.
I play unmodded survival generally (love some of the brilliant mods the community has made though), and while the timers you've mentioned for some things are a little off this method does work brilliantly. The only changes I've needed were to prevent Danse glitching by completing Fire Support in order to ensure he went inside the Cambridge Police Station before moving onto the Scribe and Smiling Larry. Due to not having the hard saves I slept for saves at Red Rocket for the initial 2 vendors, and in a sleeping bag located under the bridge between Cambridge Police Station and Beantown Brewery. Also thanks to the time needed to recruit enough settlers for Smiling Larry (22 needed it you then get both Doc and Ron, as well as complete Prestons quest and assign Codsworth, 23 to be safe) you have increased time to build and level so I'm currently lvl 35. My next steps will be to collect Ada for automatron DLC, then Sunshine Tidings for the double meat book (really handy in survival), before collecting Piper for the exploration xp boost and weapon hunt at Vault 88 (double shot Combat Rifle - Overseer's Guardian - is ideal for Wasteland decimation while wandering) before recruiting the final vendors. For character build I chose to max Endurance and Intelligence from the start, as Endurance conversion to HP is not retroactive and every point matters in the starting of Survival mode.
Pretty amazing work you put into applying the method to survival
www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3rqx5a/someone_with_the_game_please_answer_endurance/
I aways thought endurance did retroactively apply to hp bonus though. According to the above thread, i may have been mistaken.
@Jon Bunkle Do you have any tips for Survival mode? I’ve been getting pretty far but I’m curious on your thoughts and if you’re able to farm legendaries.
@@Ser_Thaddeus With Survival I am not sure my playstyle is ideal. My character only carries the most basic equipment due to carry weight, and I wear my Lab Coat / Road Goggles / Destroyer's Helmet (switch into Charisma suit/glasses for conversations) everywhere while killing everything from stealth with the Overseer's Guardian. If I'm doing a heavily combat oriented mission I'll put on full combat armour (combination of Black Ops / Destroyers and Synth gear) but even many of those are easily achieved wearing my normal gear. Otherwise I carry a few basic meds and use only cooked food for dealing with standard debuffs. If you don't mind getting occasional Todd Howard game buffs (if it's not removed as a bug it IS a feature) you don't need to avoid the buff food. If you do, carry noodle cups and mutt chops or iguana on a stick everywhere. Mostly, if you feel like you've got a heap accomplished and don't want to die... go back to a settlement and craft until you need a proper sleep and rake in the crafting xp.
Legendary farming is a lot more challenging sadly. While we can spawn them and find them in all the same locations, and in fact seem to have a higher % chance of legendary spawns, I haven't found a way to loot lock the spawns or even guarantee it will be the same groups spawning every time. So instead of going on specific legendary hunts I've been placing half a dozen cages in isolated areas of my settlements and clearing those out whenever I am near. If it's useful I will use it or give it to a settler and if not it's more caps and xp to continue along. If I do discover a method to consistently get results I will add it here or make some guides for Survival myself.
As a general suggestion I recommend changing the Pip-Boy colour to a lighter blue from standard green because it lights up everything noticeably better so you don't miss random loot along the way. I hope any of that is helpful.
@@lazywonko Much appreciated, my playstyle seems fairly similar to yours. Though there’s some things I’m still tweaking.
My settlement is pretty well built in Starlight, I can easily resupply and I got a few of those important vendors.
For companions I’m on the fence because they seem to get in the way but I’m digging the Automatrons and Sentinel Power armor (from the CC).
For weapons I want to try melee but that seems dangerous and foolish, so I’ve been sniping mostly.
Hopefully I can get better armor, then maybe I can try melee. I’ve seen videos for loot locking Survival but I’ve yet to try it. Seems possible though.
Followed your guide and got all of my lvl4 Merchants, you are a genius and this is the only reliable method to consistently do this
This took so much effort but it’s so satisfying seeing all of them lined up, can’t imagine how long it took you to do this with no tutorial, legend
Terrific video, well explained and to the point. One little correction though - you can recruit Anne without doing the Trinity Tower quest.
One thing about Trader Rylee that you didn't mention. When you go inside the cannery do not speak to her. Let her finish her conversation with the owner and let her leave the building. Then you can follow her outside to recruit her. There is some kind of bug that occurs if you speak to her while indoors. Once recruited, do not go back inside and start/finish the Mystery Meat quest. If you do she just disappears from your settlement forever. I don't know if that was intentional on Bethesda's part or just another bug. You can go inside to get the bobblehead and magazine but that's all.
The Automatron DLC makes it harder to recruit these 4 merchants because everytime when I quicksave to trigger The Scribe or Smiling Larry, I always get the Mechanist Hostile Robots, they also break the campsite random encounters which reduces the chances to get Doc Anderson and Ron Staples.
I had to download the mod called “Intergrated Commonwealth” which reduces the chances of the Automatron Robots to appear.
I came across a useful discovery for those attempting this process and wish for a boost: Abernathy Farm is within range of a campsite encounter (south), so once you are ready to recruit Doc Anderson and Ron Staples, you may visit the settlement to start their quest. While there is a fluid encounter nearby Satellite Station Olivia, testing with the spawning of said encounter revealed that so long as you do not enter the map quadrant containing Thicket Excavations as well as the quadrant east of, IT WILL NOT SPAWN (However I still recommend staying north and looting the robotics disposal ground), allowing you to complete the quest and gain Abernathy Farm as a settlement. If you aren't planning on completing the Nuka World DLC prior to saving Preston on the gang, you will have 20 settlers needed for Doc and Ron, 2 from Doc and Ron themselves, 3 from Abernathy, and 5 from Preston, for an immediate 30 settlers needed to recruit Smiling Larry. Happy Hunting!
Second Discovery: You can settle in Sunshine Tidings Co-op without triggering any campsite or fluid encounters, by simply traveling near the western border of the map from Sanctuary to Sunshine, and entering through the west side. There is a nearby campsite encounter east and north of the settlement (the northern one being in range of Abernathy), but as long as you do not cross the north dam/bridge or exit east it should be fine (there is a chokepoint encounter on the bridge if you wish to activate it). Another tidbit I discovered along the western border was a scrap trader near the small body of water on the map.
WARNING: Do not use the east campsite encounter to farm for Doc or Ron, there is a second campsite encounter within range west of it (under the bridge), and a third campsite encounter east of the bridge (in a house). If you are careful you could activate all three campsites for quick encounter rolls.
Third Discovery: You can settle Outpost Zimonja, travel along the north border until you reach the settlement, you can clear down to the trailer without triggering the nearby fluid encounter. DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY FATMAN INDUCED MUTILATION. I recommend grabbing the fatman + nuke at the robotics disposal ground to deal with Boomer. Zimonja + Sunshine will bring your total settlement count to 4, double the video's count, this will greatly speed up the time needed to recruit the 20/30 settlers for the campsite/fluid encounters.
I’m on next gen, I have all the special level 4 merchants except the scribe 😢I cannot find him but I’ll carry on until I do find him. I spend about 7hours collecting and finding ways to get the merchants. Smiling Larry I didn’t have level 30 populations. So I pacify’s him walked him to a settlement then once in activated my workshop and pressed the move button and moved him to another settlement. Worked like a treat. Same with rylee pacify her then speak with her it’ll fix her dialogue. Then she should move to a settlement. Ron staples I managed to just get him to work for me and the doc anderson as well. The guy that sells the cash card, I pacify’d him and walked him to the castle and did the same thing moved him to another settlement and made him a bar man. I got the clothes woman easy as well without needing to do the quest just ask her to work for you. Same goes for vault tec matey. Just need the scribe to randomly spawn (fingers crossed)
You don't need 30 people to recruit Larry, just 10 at any one settlement, just like Trader Rylee.
Short. Sweet. To the point! ❤️ this series.
This is such a great series for those of us who wants to do it on survival. Not much modification needed! Would love to see the perfection run’s nuka world run.
What a fantastic tutorial this series has been. Just want to add my 2 cents from a survival perspective, because the first time I followed this I came to realize that I've screwed up somewhere on the road to Carla (even if I approached her peripherally) and my Doc spawn was broken. Lost about 11h of time so I restarted. Now on the first day I run directly to Red Rocket, build a bed and save. Then I run to Carla approaching her carefully and after that back to Sanctuary. Then I save again on a bed and change difficulty to very easy. I use the console to teleport myself to Doc or Ron (in the secret room) and after I check all four of the traders are in there, I delete the save and reload my last survival save on Sanctuary to level up to lvl20.
Only relevant for PC and survival difficulty obviously.
If you avoid the campsites and the billboard in Cambridge, focus on barter, charisma, cap collector, etc.. then follow the method in this video. I accomplished attracting all merchants using this same method. I pretty much explored, built xp and leveled up crafting caltrops, aids and settlements, at level 35 went into Nuka world at level 50, Far Harbor and went after X01 armor and level 100 until i obtainec all merchants. Just stay way from these areas. Build the game and then go after them. This method works. Good video.
If you break the spawns (and it isnt always broke just because they spawned previously, its if they get killed while spawned) you also can just add them back to the waiting room with a few simple commands... I'd say using a shelf XP glitch is more a cheat, than simple re-enabling a rare encounter npc into the waiting pool who got killed before you even met them.
which commands should i enter to get doc anderson back into the waiting room?
This was the video the internet could never answer the problem to
This is the best guide to get these traders!! Thank you!!
Thanks! I hope it works!
easily the most comprehensive tutorial for level 4 merchants out there, as other comments said, nowhere is it explained that you need the level 3 stores already built for the recruitment to be active I thought my game was glitched (tbf my game is glitched anyway).
Dude these videos are amazing please keep it up and go for the ending were all factions live except the institute
I was able to recruit Anne Hargraves without rescuing Rex Goodman, and she works fine.
I was able to recruit Vault-Tec Rep without having a Lvl 3 General Store initially present, he works fine.
I tried to recruit Tina DeLuca, I made a hard save before sending her anywhere, she would never reach anywhere, she would just un-exist no matter where I sent her.
I tried to recruit Trader Rylee and sending her never worked, so I would try to walk with her to the Slog, or Coastal Cottage, or Finch Farm, and I would see her just instantly un-exist.
I have never even seen Doc Anderson, or Ron Staples, and now that you explained how campsite spawns work, I probably despawned them permamently without ever realizing it. Man, that is bad design but, thank you for teaching us about it.
The Scribe... that guy... he would never appear if I sent him to a settlement. I had to walk (slowly) with him from that road by CIT to Hangman's (the closest) walk. I actually got him to staff my armor stall. I went to a chem bench to make jet to trade, on my way walking back all of 50 ft, I saw him just turn in place and vanish completely out of existence leaving a small puff of smoke by his feet. My Hangman's tour video has that same stall marked "In Memoriam The Scribe".
I never ran across Smiling Larry, even though he is not a campsite spawn, so I might not have ruined him ...yet..
Finally, I managed to get Doc. Anderson and Ron to appear in the same game.
solution: delete all existing Fallout 4 games from the console, why?, NO IDEA.
I created a new game on another PS account and I got the 2 of them on the third try, that led me to think that they were the saved ones, it wasn't easy, I already have 2000 hours in Fallout 4 and I only have a few games in the cloud , THANK YOU AND THANK YOU for this guide
Congratulations!
Thank you for the video, was planning to do a settlement builder and this is some must have info!
thanks. Been trying to get these guys for the longest time.
Love this series. This video really helped with getting them on survival :D
I got Fallout 4 for Christmas (PS4). I have no clue what I'm doing. I'm not following the story, because I know how it ends (watched spoilers trying to learn to play). So, I'm doing my own thing, literal anarchy over here. No railroad. No brotherhood of steel. I do help the Minutemen as I got soft spot for the Minutemen. I'm loving the settlement building. I have several settlements. Some populated at 25. I'm just starting to build trading booths, but have no idea how to set supply lines. I think I'm at a level 30 and I don't even know what that means. I know I have both local leadership stars. But I'm really enjoying your videos as your extremely knowledgeable, and I need all the help I can get. I've gone rogue in this game just focusing on settlement building as that brings me the most joy.
When you get an extra unassigned settler you can give them the provisioner role between 2 settlements
Omfg. Thank you so much for this info. Fantastic! Im enjoying your content, especially the farming vids. Subscribed! Thx again.
I've watched this at least 50 times I think
Perfect. Just perfect. Thank you very much.
Keep up the great content man! :)
Hey, I'm leaving this comment just in case some people might have had the same problem. I think the first campsite broke because nobody was showing up at all. So what I did was use the same method, but tweeked it. I made a hard save at the first campsite, made my way towards drumlin diner, but just before moving past that big billboard, I made a quick save and moved towards the second campsite spawn. After a few reloads from the quick save, I finally got Doc Anderson to spawn for me. I'm not sure if this is consistent, but if is, this is another method that could be used. Not sure why the first site broke, but maybe it's due to DLC in some way. This was done on the PS4 btw so hopefully it works for anyone who couldn't get the first method down. I'll probably edit this comment if I get Ron Staples using the same method.
Edit: Okay! Literally 10 minutes after I left comment, I did the same method I just listed, and got Ron Staples. I wanna say that this is a consistent method of getting those two characters to spawn, along with what was said in the video. To also clarify, I didn't ever go beyond Red Rocket Truck Stop besides to talk and sell to Trashcan Carla. I hope this helps anyone else struggling!
I'm on ps4 as well and having the same issue. though when I get to the campsite there is nobody at either. Didn't leave sanctuary/red rocket so im pretty bummed.
Thanks for this video. once upon a time, I felt like I was cheating by using console commands to find these guys on my Survival runs (by switching difficulty and then switching back again). Seeing how infinitesimally unlikely it is to get them organically however, I feel vindicated
There’s a way to gauretee Tina de Luca when you go talk to her for her quest to recruit her talk to Bobby her brother but make sure it leads to him turning hostile then go back and talk to Tina and you should be able to recruit her with no problem
Once you have Ron Staples and Doc Anderson at your settlement working for you. You will then encounter them randomly in the wasteland which is weird cause they're at your settlement working at a vendor stand. It's like they're a copy or maybe a synth. I haven't killed one to see if they're a synth but next time i see one of them appear i will save then kill them to see if i find a synth component or if they're just the same identical character that is part of the normal random encounter system but because they're at your settlement they're not removed from the game files is what I'm guessing or maybe the institute really did make copies of them.
I remember one time I recruited Doc Anderson and sent her to Spectacle Island. A few days later I'm walking by that house which is a random spawn point next to Drumlin Diner and she was there treating people. So I immediately fast travel back to Spectacle Island and sure enough her booth was empty, however I came back the next day and she was there.
Dam man can’t even get smileing Larry either sadly been trying for 6 hours now an none dam Bethesda really needs to fix these damn bugs 🐛 😭💀💯
lmfao hold tf up, youre telling me that BESIDES the half dozen other scripting bugs w the level 4 merchants that can prevent them from being recruited, showing up at a settlement, having proper dialogue, or being assigned, if the random encounter merchants EVER spawned somewhere in the game without you noticing then they're permanently removed from the game??? Its honestly amazing the amount of ways Bethesda can take a neat idea and completely fuck it up.
Amazing info in this one. Thank you!
Yo just locked this in on survival in about 20 hours thanks bro!
i got the ron staples encounter while resetting the ron staples encounter and then had 2 ron staples next to each other, it was overly funny
I’ve been enjoying your videos, especially the long ones.
I was curious if you could do tips/guide or something about Survival mode? There’s even a way to loot lock encounters I noticed by that raider settlement near Vault 81.
Appreciate it, and keep up the content :)
NUK-E-MON!
I know this video is old but it is still reliable and thought I’d share what I learned about Tina de Luca and Riley.
-for Riley all you gotta do is recruit her and not do the mystery meat quest, heck probably don’t interact with Long neck(my guess is that Riley still does business with him even though she said she wouldn’t lol).
- with Tina de Luca
1.talk with her
2. Go to Bobby
3.insult him telling him he’s a waste of life and try to get him to Argo you and kill him
4. Go back to Tina amd say booby wouldn’t do it and recruit her you’ll have to ask her twice and you should get her
For people playing on survival who need a good save point for the scribe and Larry, cross the bridge and sleep inside the brewery, then cross the bridge back and follow the road to the spawn point.
I have been using the Cambridge police station with paladin danse
Doc was literally my 1st encounter after reaching the requirements. Ron Staples is still missing after many attempts
Try sleeping a few hours and building a few things. That seems to re randomize the encounters
Yes, it worked. Thank you so much! I was stuck on stunted Yao guai, synths, or chems vendor. I just passed some time and then I got Dreth, feral ghouls, or nothing for a few rounds, then it happened! I know it's not critical, but after 12 hrs of gameplay it's nice to get the payoff.
I don't really understand most of this but it was very interesting
FYI, when I tried recruiting Trader Rylee she replied with ‘I’m confused’. I waited 24 hours in Sanctuary and she didn’t appear with a settler pool of 32.
I did it again, she responded the same way but she showed up. This one is really weird!
Had the same problem…it was either max settlers at the settlement because my grape mentats timed out …or I didn’t have a empty general stall ……
Abandon the V-81 chick as she is eternally bugged to not go to any settlement and remain in the Vault. You have to console command to make sure she accepts it and equip her with good gear as her path, is sadly also bugged and gets her killed quite easily. Just...just why did she provoke EVERYONE in Greygarden and turned to laser ash?!
Why didn’t u show the location on the map? These CZcamsrs bro
If you can't recruit the second settler from the campsite behind the museum of freedom, here's what I did:
.keep the quicksave from the stop sign.
.fast travel from the quicksave location to the Drumlin Diner and check the abandoned house campsite spot.
.once the second one is acquired fast travel or walk to concord and do the campsite one more time to get the second one moving back to sanctuary or any other settlement.
Hope this helps!
Great guide thanks dude
This is absolutely perfect.. Thanks, I love it.. '3'
Great video
Fallout NV is the best Fallout game ever
I note some other problems :
Tina de Luca and vault tec inventory are shared
Bugs with other merchants like anne and any other lvl 3 sharing inventories
I tried this method on Survival. Ron Staples came in 2-3 tries. But somehow this groovy-ass man walked out of campsite and straight into gunfight in Concord. He almost got killed there. 😂
I think going to the house to reset the spawn is a bad idea because from all my testing, if you get to that house you're close enough to spawn in the camsite under the nearby gunner overpass
Thankyou for this Ive been watchin you grind live lately your like the most thorough concise youtuber on this subject I just started a new save wish me luck
Went back for Next Gen Update playthrough here. Happen to cross your vid when I'm collecting them. Just wanna confirm that I did met Ron Staples and Doc Anderson when I'm on early level was not able to recruit them. But, when I decided to farm the encounters, they spawned again and was able to recruit them on the second encounter.
Only Smiling Larry left for my Sanctuary City. Seems, he can't spawn even I have 31 settlers. Might be because I transferred 5 of the companions were there? Last time I checked the vocational overview on the Vault Tec settler terminal, I just counted 27 settlers in total. Not the req. 30
Used cheats to get them because I blew the campsite spawns but had to go to the cannery to be able to get that merchant.
Yeah, the level 4 merchants are so buggy that it's definitely acceptable to cheat to get them. I was just wondering if I could find a method that would allow people to get them without cheating.
@@TheEfficientGamer I was able to get all but the doc normally. Had no clue concord could kill the spawn point.
I’m on my first play through ever…..but I’m lvl 108…..I guess I missed out on these…..sigh
Wish the videos were longer there so good
2023 PS Player here, tried it 4 times 2 with dlc installed 2 without and both times with doc came with bugs and 2 times without dlc I find them within an hour of looking. Just make sure the number of settlers are in your settlement you’re sending them to instead of links because that seems to only work. Hope this helps! 🎉 P.S with DLC I spent around 8/10 hours finding only Ron Staples and no doc and the other save could not find Larry.
So basically the npc’s are actors
That took forever. But I did it. Then my settlement decided unemployment was too low and fired all 34 or my settlers in both sanctuary and red rocket. I love this game 😭
One correction i might add to this is that Rylee is EXTREMELY bugged out. Even if you get her to your settlement and such, there's a whole mess of issues with her regarding the Mystery Meat quest inside the factory. People reporting her disappearing after you complete the quest, or not being able to do the quest at all. She says "i'm confused" the first time you try to recruit her and goes through the second time, but then she's stuck with the "work for me?" option when shes back in your settlement.
tl;dr Rylee is too buggy, so if you're looking for perfection then i'd probably go with the Vault Tec Rep. or maybe Tina, i've never used her. Never had issues with the Rep in my own playthroughs. Only downside of him is that you have to wait an eternity for him to ramble basically anytime you wanna talk to him. I can't find anything saying if different level 4 General merchants have different stocks though.
I have no idea how you managed to get Rylee without her being bugged.
EDIT: After reading the wiki page for all 3 of the merchants, VT Rep is by far the least buggy, and almost all of his bugs seem to be resolvable without console commands, unlike the other two.
I never like videos but this one deserved it
Thanks!
Quick follow up on this: Has your trader Rylee gone missing? I was able to recruit her and she showed up at my settlement, but she went missing shortly afterwords.
I did some searching online, and it looks like there's a bug where she goes missing after you complete the 'mystery meat' quest at Lukowski's. I did that quest right after making sure she showed up at my settlement so it makes sense. Just wondering if you've done that quest and if she went missing for you as well.
Actually, yeah, she disappeared. I didn’t know what caused it, and I waited a few weeks, but she didn’t come back. I tried using the console to see if she wandered somewhere, but her location was still in Sanctuary. I did unfortunately end up using a console command to re enable her. Since then she’s been fine.
Update on that actually. If you recruit her and if you do the mystery meat quest she will disappear. If you did recruit her and didn’t do the mystery meat quest and she still disappeared then I don’t know what happened to her. Just don’t do mystery meat quest you can still go to his office and get bobble head and magazine.
10:35 Trader Rylee. There is a mission underneath the factory. If you choose to do that mission you'll anger Theo and you must deal with him. If you kill him you defenitly loose trader rylee forever. Theo is her brother afterall. If you want to do the mission bring a Power Armor fit with a jetpack. You need the PA to reach Theo after you've been in his cellar. He shoots his robots are shooting at you too. But don't kill them or even harm them. Instead, fly to Theo and you can talk to him then. Spare him and he become a better trader too and you'll keep Rylee in your settlement.
But,,, why take the risk??? Don't go in the cellar anyway. There is nothing special there except for one Legendary enemy and a bunch of normal enemy. Story is nice though.
EDIT: Closing the app altogether on my PS5 and reloading it got me Mr. Scribe in 2 more reloads. Phew. Didn't mess anything up!
So I recently found these videos of yours and I have been following the guides. Been able to get Ron, Doc and Larry, but the Scribe for whatever reason isn't showing up. Do I need to help Danse and get them out of the ghoul fight by any chance? I noticed through the comments Ron had the requirement of being at night to get him to spawn, so wasn't sure if the Scribe has any quirkyness to him too.
Love the videos so far, hopefully I can get mr. Scribe soon so I can go out and do more things. The waiting for the settlers has been the longest slog I've had when playing this game, lol
I dont think there are requirements for him. Try checking at different times, sleeping for a few days, doing random stuff and trying again. If he still doesn’t show up, he may be broken unfortunately.
Now only if someone had an easy guide for survival instead of quick saving i gotta sleep a mile away
Just got done finishing this on survival so I can give you some advice if you'd like?
@@sweetschmeat7417 the only thing I really have an issue with is not knowing where the closest bedroll or bed is
@@pipeosaurs so the best locations I found to sleep at are:
Campfire encounters
Start at Red Rocket and place a bed right at the edge of the build area facing Concord and sleep. Now sprint to the Campfire behind the Museum of Freedom to check the encounter. Reload and repeat until Doc/ Ron appear and recruit them.
There should be a bed at the campfire you just used to recruit Doc/ Ron so save here and then sprint to the house next to Drumlin Diner & check the encounter. Reload & repeat as necessary until the other encounter appears.
Random encounters:
Head south towards Cambridge. At the north outskirts of Cambridge (just above the Collegiate Administration Building) there is an unmarked Red Rocket Filling Station with a shack on the roof containing a mattress.
Save here, run to the billboard shown in the video to check what random encounter you get and reload until it's either The Scribe or Larry. Once you've recruited the first, just run back to the mattress in the shack on the roof, save again and repeat the above process until the final merchant is spawned.
Thank you you are the best
You should do a “puppet master” build. You don’t fight it’s all intimidation and hacking robots
So if one of these NPCs showed up in a random encounter without me knowing they were there or if I couldn't recruit them, they are gone forever? How do I know that I'm not wasting my time?
Because I found both Ron and Anderson before I could recruit them, I found Ron later again while farming them and I recruited him, he showed up but disappeared quickly after. I ended up finding him in another random encounter where I killed him for abandoning me. Same exact thing with Rylee, however I recruited her at her fixed initial spawn at Longneck. However, I haven't met Anderson ever again and I have been farming this quite a bit. Also, for some reason I can only find campsite encounters at the Mass Fusion shed. The campfire outside Concord has a never despawning corpse of the sick guy, the house near Drumlin diner where I found Ron early in the game for the first time before I could recruit him has also dried up. I found Anderson on the dam near the relay tower near Oberland, also there I found Mikey and Moss and the 2 people threatening the Synth. That one seemed to has the most activity but has also dried up. I tried new spots, like close to westing estates and peabody house but nothing ever spawned there so as of right now only the campfire near mass fusion shed spawns anything anymore, but its hostile enemies everytime now and most of the time robots. This is where I found Ron the 2nd time when I recruited him and where I found him and rylee again after leaving my settlement. im still trying to find Anderson but since I found robots at the shed like 20 times in a row i decided to move on to trying to find larry and the scribe and after quite a while i found larry actually, recruited him and bought the reckoning. But i havent found the scribe yet. now my question is, how do i know im not wasting my time trying to find anderson and the scribe? maybe i ran into the scribe without realising it and he disappeared. maybe anderson disappeared after meeting her the first time, while ron didnt bug out. i could really use some help, please.
I have been able to recruit Anne without completing the trinity tower quest. I just had to have it active. I havent assigned her to a shop though. so maybe I will be unable to do so? edit. great vid by the way!
I have 11 in sanctuary and 9 in red rocket. I found both doc Anderson and Ron staples and they said something like “I don’t understand you”. What’s going on!!! 9+11 is 20 right ? What’s going on
I just attempted this on Xbox X GOTY edition with the next gen update and followed it exactly. After 17 hours, I have the necessary requirements for Ron Staples, but I come across him at the campsite spawn and he DOES NOT show up with the recruitment dialogue, only the '"Traveling bar?" dialogue option. I am not sure what went wrong but it seems like there could still be some issues with the level 4 merchants. For those perfectionists out there be warned lol. Anyway, I may have just gotten unlucky, very informative video!
Hmm… you have enough settlers and a level 3 restaurant built? Ive heard of people getting this bug but never experienced it.
Still appreciate all the work you put into these…. I was wondering, based on the route you took to acquire trash can Carla, if I could use Abernathy farm as my second location for trading population…. I like red rocket to remain my place of solitude.
Holy crap doc a first try! Nice
And I thought reloading a save to get that Alien Blaster in FO3 was time consuming...my god.
I could not make the shelves stack on Xbox series X. I have no idea if I’m just doing something wrong or if it’s not possible on a console so I just built a bunch of posts down the whole damn road. It was too boring to do for long so I just used it to get to level 7 and then stopped. I’ve quite enjoyed your videos so thanks.
On a side note, Automatron seems to override certain spots on the map when it comes to random encounters, reducing your chances of getting the Scribe for some reason. In my main, longest going character, I made sure to recruit him and Smiling Larry before enabling that DLC to prevent any issues getting them. Wish I knew about the campsite encounters back then, maybe there's still a chance I can nab Ron and the Doc...
Well I know that there are a couple of Automaton-based random encounters that can appear in places where the Scribe can also appear, so it makes sense that it would be affected.
I hate Rust Devils for this reason. They overwrite so many other random event spawns, making it that about 8 in every 10 random spawns are stupid Rust Devils, Junkbots and, Swarmbots.
Well ich picked the game up after years of not playing anymore and of course after watching the series. In most cases when I safe at the stop sign, there is nobody there
So I followed this video exactly, I ended up getting everyone except when I got to the fluid encounters, I got smiling Larry first, and then the scribe. The problem was that when I went to gray garden, back to the encounter, and back to sanctuary, my population went down by one and the scribe was nowhere to be found. Can anyone help?
I have been able to recruit Ron staples so far but haven’t been able to find doc Anderson yet. Back at sanctuary, Ron has been placed in a level 3 bar and says his inventory is limited. Any help?
*Edit*
I was able to get smiling larry to spawn, just missing the scribe.
This is the best method hands down. Im level 50 so this method does not work for me. However I downloaded a mod that tracks the vendors. I ran into the same problem, it showed me where the vendors spawned but they weren't presently there. After further testing I was able to fast travel to "where they were" and fast travel to a different campsite. It appears for me that the vendors are able to respwan if you know where they spawned the first time. I haven't gotten the scribe or smiling larry to respawn yet. I play on xbox. I hope this helps someone.
what mod is that, I play on xbox too
@@mathewnaguib4994 merchant tracker, or something along those lines. I downloaded it to track the spawns, then I tested a few methods on how to get them to spawn. Deleted the mod, reverted to an old save, and continued playing. Feel free to ask any more questions
First of all, amazing job! I never knew how those people appeared. Secondly, I almost always play on Survival, us there a workaround in your method to avoid fast travel (as I can't do that in Survival Mode?)
Virtibird grenades. I have a huge stack of those in my survival save , and I couldn't live without them.
I do posts instead of shelves for early game xp grinding
Most folks already know this, but you can get Parker Quinn as a sort of secret 9th level 4 since his inventory is a copy of Ron Staples.
😅 tell me more sir. I’m just now trying to make a perfect play through. I was so scared to get trash can Carla and mess up my vendor I just used Abernathy Farm for caps
@@austinmaddox8390 There are videos on how to get him here on CZcams. I wasn't the one that figured it out. You can probably find them by searching Parker Quinn Fallout 4.
@@copperclockmaker do you mod or play vanilla, I’m doing vanilla only until I get my last achievements on xbox
@@copperclockmaker sir your comment on Parker is really bugging me. Did you mean Tina?
@@austinmaddox8390 I play vanilla. No, Parker Quinn the charge card guy. You can intimidate him into one of your settlements, then assign him to a bar. He won't allow you to do bar stuff until you get the charge card, but then he is a bartender with the same inventory as Ron Staples.