Why I Became A Marine Engineer | Chief MAKOi Podcast 2
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2023
- How did I become an Engineer instead of a Deck Officer / Navigator?
Why does PMMA look like a military school when it's for Merchant Marine?
Why Fourthclass cadets are not allowed to relax.
Chief, keep doing this videos!
I remember when I was on the 1st year of the Brazilian Merchant Marine Academy and I started watching your videos. Right now I am on board a shuttle tanker as an Engine Cadet and I still following and learning with your videos.
Your job here inspires a lot of people.
As a young man in civil engineering school, I considered becoming a SeaBee with the Navy, but wasn't convinced I could put up with all the "bs". Hearing your explanation puts it all in perspective and if I had known the purpose back then I might have been more willing to go through with it.
Well stress tolerance can be trained via other ways also. Military immersions, pressure and see who cracks is one way. There is other ways.
Just because someone hasn't gone through military training doesn't mean they aren't as thought mentally. They might have learned same toughness via other ways.
Military way is efficient in being fast and capable of training lot of people at one go. However it can also be destructive to the individuals. Since not only might someone start crack and flunk out, the system might not pick up on the starting cracking early enough (though that is kinda supposed to be the idea) meaning by the time the person is noticed to crack, not only is it momentary crack. Permanent psychological harm might have happened. Since frankly with hundreds recruits in row being pressured it is blunt instrument, unless trainers have very well their feelers out to pull out the people in time. Theoretically ofcourse the plan is "we pick out the people in risk of harm, before permanent harm happens". That plan sometimes doesn't work out and in this case one is kinda intentionally pushing them to cracking knowingly, so one bears responsibility. Instead of someone just by happenstance ending up in situation leading to psychological harm. That is also why the psych evaluations he mentioned are a thing. As conscript in Finland, everyone had to take psych eval (though probably way less thorough than that one he mentioned for volunteer officer training). The idea is identify the people who absolutely shouldn't be subjected to this pressure cooking, since we know we are actively trying to crack people and these people would have permanent crack based on their psych profile.
Also just because someone cracked in military training doesn't mean one couldn't overtime developed fortitude. There military training is pretty much a shock and awe course due to military wanting fast training results and large training numbers. Plus one must remember *this is being applied to 18 year olds* . Who frankly are still in part juveniles just based on brain development. So someone who cracks in military at 18, might say at 25 have been the most cold and calm person ever. They just hadn't yet completed their neural development.
Atleast PMMA does mental evaluations and is volunteer roll in, thus kinda you ought to know going in "it's reserve military academy, you don't like the sound of that other career paths exist".
Some for example some people just can never adjust to the strict military discipline culture, even if otherwise say as medical personnel can handle life and death pressures, can as catastrophe rescue personnel handle days on end in mud, not enough food and sleep.
They can just never get over the "you have to follow orders, even silly orders from a silly person, just due to it being the orders from person with assigned authority". Problem with authority and so on. Obviously optimally military never plans to put silly person in authority, but well as often even best laid plans rarely survive contact with reality.
Besides your own personal desire to excel at your occupation, the PMMA training made sure that you get there.
I went to military school as a high school age student. What I learned there has made my life a lot easier and helped ensure my success. As you say, I’m comfortable with uncomfortable situations. I’ve worked in the Operating Room and I’ve worked as an engineer in broadcasting where seconds off air are literally thousands of dollars lost. The pressure can be intense. But I was well trained to push that pressure aside and do my job. It’s been a real asset.
The other thing that I’m sure you also have is the life long camaraderie with my fellow graduates. We learned it was us against the world over 40 years ago. It still is and they’ve been there for me the whole way. That’s priceless.
Really enjoying this format Chief. Thanks for sharing your story.
Glad you enjoy it!
I find the podcasts to be equally as entertaining as the documentary style videos. A channel with a mix of both is an awesome thing!
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Like you Chief Makoi, I am a graduate of Don Bosco Technical Institute Makati 1962. Was hired by an international computer company in 1964, because I was a technical high school graduate of Don Bosco Makati. You are right, being able to stay comfortable in an uncomfortable situation helped me survive my stressful job. Worked for the same company for 53 years. My high school education in Don Bosco Makati made me attain the comfortable retirement life I have now.
That must be REALLY fascinating to have been involved in computers back in the 60's! Did you work with the giant mainframes?
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CHIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These are awesome! Really enjoying to get to know you on a different level thru these videos. Awesome channel. I check every day for new content.
Glad you like them!
I love your back story. You really have a good way of explaining your early years as a seafarer.
Thank you Chief. You actually answered a couple of my most burning questions about PMMA... without me even having to ask you. Excellent podcast.
Thank you Chief. Good insight. KEEP POSTING!
Love your channel chief. Keep them coming
Looks like training at the US Navy boot camp. We learned a lot in a short time in boot and then many naval related schools and college classes after that. Our naval classes were 30 hours or more per week with duty after class hours instead of the 12 hours a week typical college classes.
More podcast about PMMA sir!
Love these videos. Every time I watch one, I start missing the Philippines. Bout time to retire…..
Thanks for the videos chief! Lots of parallels to my time in the engine room on a submarine.
Always wondered about the stance in your PMMA videos. Thanks chief.
Chief, glad to see you back on CZcams, and for one, I'm *LOVING* this new dimension of your channel.
Very curious to hear more of your story in the near future!!
I know another engineer that also failed the colorblind test.
Also as an engineer myself I'm not sure if I would make the same choice knowing what I know now. I like working on machinery and being away from people but I sometimes envy the deck officers in a/c, comfortable seats and a nice view.
Hi Chief! Good to know you are a Bosconian like me (DBTI batch 77). I enjoy your vlogs as they are informative and educational. Keep up the good work! Thanks and God bless'
Thanks again for telling your story, chief.
Excellent presentation, always look forward to your posting, thank you very much.
Chief, I just watched your two podcasts. Yes, they're enjoyable and interesting. Please continue.
Fantastic job! Looking forward to more. Love the mindset of being comfortable while being uncomfortable. Kind of like my training in the South Bronx during the heroin and crack epidemic for my future in jails and prisons. I even ran into guys in a prison yard that were suppose to execute me in the 80's and here we were 3 states and 3 years later, we had some great laughs over that. Keep up the great work.
Chief, again a glimpse into your past with your slight flavour narrative added.. Keep this entertaining work going.. 👏🏽
that was an awesome background chief .....
Great story chief. Keep them coming very interesting.
Always leaving us with a question. Thanks Chief.
Great insight into your career path really interesting.
True dedication to succeed your family must be really proud of you.
Safe travels from the UK
That color blindness test is a beast.
very entertaining series! keep em coming! 😀👍
I have really enjoyed your narrative of the years that you have spent.
I am really enjoying these!
Learned a lot Chief, Thank You
Another good one... thanks...
Absolutely fascinating, thank you for the insight
Excellent. Thank you Chief.
Thank-You for sharing your lifestyle and reasons for choosing it. Very interesting share Thanks . Have a blessed weekend!.
You're a good man, Chief!
Excellent video, Chief. Don Bosco schools have provided many a country with a much needed cadre of technical personnel, especially in the developing ones. They do a good job. All the best to you.
It's good you're back chief, cheers to more videos! I'm a cadet in Kenya completing my bachelor's degree in Marine engineering, could you please shed some light about how I can work as a cadet in international ships? Our country kenya doesn't have the big ships and I don't know where to start as from January next year. Thank you in advance
unbelievable! Congratulations!
Bracing and eating 'square meals' (fork movement)
Please keep doing these podcasts I’m
Really enjoying them thank u chief po 😊
Thanks for answering those 'Whys'
Thank you Chief ❤
Can't wait to watch next episode sir 😅 🙌
Honestly I think that intense training like that I a great thing especially like you said. Being cool under pressure.
Gotta watch the next episode!
You're my inspiration chief to become chief engineer ❤️
SIR BOSCONIAN KA RIN PO PALA! I am one of your super super young underclassman as a Bosconian only graduating this year and I will also be admitting into MAAP this coming july. Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts about this institution chief makoi?
What is your stand on the cases of hazing inside the Academy administered by the seniors sir? What are the best things to do to address it in case it happens to a junior class?
Nowadays those incidents are isolated cases. It's a matter of individual attitude of the cadets and those were formed at home while they were growing up. Long before they ever entered PMMA. The academy terminates cadets who are found guilty and in extreme cases, criminal cases are filed.
@@ChiefMAKOi Thank you, sir.
Thanks for sharing...
Interesting training you had! I was a marine engineer in the Royal Navy, from 1964.... Four years craft apprenticeship, then three years at sea to gain the necessary watch-keeping certificates to take charge of a watch below. I loved it and still miss it.
But I see the training that you had as rather more "brutal" in your initial years......
I stayed in the navy until I was 30, always steam ships, but left and got married then. I had a enjoyable career at sea!
Interesting as well as informative.... again, thanks for sharing.
My pleasure!
very nice video Chief well said, i remember how i started off now retired ex Ch/Eng from factory deep see fishing trawlers, if i could do it all over i would do it again
Great video.
Thank you, Chief!
My pleasure!
Been missing you, Chief.
I also had to choose between going the deck or engine route when entering the merchant marine academy. In my case I did select the engine side. Actually I really wanted to become a radio officer, but that option wasn't available at the academy. So I went thru as an engine cadet and started working as an engineer. Eventually I became a chief engineer and worked at that capacity for a while. Because of my previous experience I was also able to obtain a radio officers license on my own so I had two licenses. I worked until I was 70 but when I got into my 60s the engine room was just too hot and the work too hard for an old man. At that point I used my radio officers license to get a job in that capacity so I could work up on the air conditioned bridge. That was a lot easier. Additionally, I was a department head and on the same level as the chief engineer and the pay was very similar. There's not too many radio officers jobs out there any more but the position of Electro-Technical Officer (ETO) is starting to become a thing as ships get more and more computerized. I was going to get that license as well but it was pointless as I was very close to retirement. Now I'm sitting at home watching videos of deck and engine crews working on ships.
Interesting story ! Chief more pa more ! 😅
This is fun chief keep it up 👍🏻👍🏻 greetz from the netherlands
Thanks, will do!
I wish I was 20 yrs old again!! What a challenge to accomplish!!!
You became a Marine Engineer because it's the best job EVER! I went through basic training in the Navy and they had only 8 weeks to turn us into sailors, it was an intense experience that I wouldn't trade for anything. 👍👍
MORE AUDIO PLEASE CHIEF...GREAT PRESENTATION..SAFE TRAVELS..
The PMMA sounds a lot like the USMMA. Plebe year stinks. We went to sea half of Third Class year and half of Second Class year. Surviving NY summers with no AC was very uncomfortable coming from foggy San Francisco.
I had a few professors who were USMMA Graduates.
Classmate! Don Bosco Makati batch 96
Don Bosco Technical Institute Makati graduate , 1962😀. Visited the machine shop and saw my etched initials in the tools drawer assigned to me 64 years ago. Saw the old shaper machine colored green, still being used.
Hey Chief hope you are doing good! Hope you are aware about the recent titan submarine tragedy as a sea farer we would like to know about your opinions that what went possibly wrong during the dive of that submersible. Expecting your attention on this
Ah dang I missed your live Chief.
There will be more next time. 😊
@@ChiefMAKOi Aye nice 1 Chief Makoi those in depth stripdowns of fuel systems gensets and mains are always enlightening.
Kool ❤
Good job. Chief! Very good topics for young guides who intend to be a deck officer or an engineer...
If you can stand for home sick and sea sick , a forth engineer or a third mate's salary, already earn more than a medical officer in Philippine, that's still the same never been change for more than 50 years...😁
Good story sir chief
Glad you liked it!
I love your video. It's really interesting. By the way, I have a question for you. Do you know Stolt Tanker company? It's a big company about chemical, right ?
A real live modern day Scotty!
I was a marine engineer in the Royal Navy. They wanted me to do seamanship. But i stuck out for marine envineering.
This will take you anywhere, i had to do colour blindness tests. They found it was obscure greens and blues colour blind.
So i joined the correct branch or the service.
Hi sir ...
Great podcast cheif 💯. Is it me or the volume of the video is low ?
This is the problem with the current generations in the world, we are not trained to be strong, and society thinks we should treat the weak gently so we don't hurt their feelings.
can you tell us about some frightening experiences you have had at sea please? big waves? ship rolling? stuff like that.. thanks
😁 thank you...NEXT 🤔
I am almost giving up on my seafaring career. Ive been on vacation for 8 months now, sir, but regaining my confidence because of your post on fb about slow progress is a scam. 😂 already have my OIC license and am now completing the requirements.pero sobrang natatagalan na talaga ako kaya napapaisip ako kung worth it parin mag barko. i ddnt came from academy late narin ako nakapag start mag barko, ngayon nawawala na yung eagernes ko magpatuloy. pero salamat sa mga video nyo sir. narenew yung mindset ko. hindi pa late to study harder and strive for something bigger 👌🙏
While doing the eyesight test, are you allowed glasses, like for a driving license? I want to become an engineer but I am afraid my vision might hold me back.
This is all i what I needed in my life is to be a mating engineering
Hi I just started following your channel. I am currently upgrading to 2nd class. What things helped you when studying? I have completed schooling, and the general exam. All I have left is the motor exam and oral exam. Was there certain methods you find useful when studying? Do you ever focus on certain questions more than others, how do you decide where to focus your studying efforts for the best test result? What sort of mind set shift would you recommend from a junior engineer to a senior engineer that will help during the exam and onboard vessels? Do you have any advice for me? I try really hard and have lots of potential, but am finally buckling down to earn my 2nd engineers license.
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Good training at PNMA ! Bye from Italy 🇮🇪
Chief, bosconian here as well! anong batch ka sa busko at anong shop mo? 👍
Can you work your way up from deckhand/wiper to officer and how long does it take?
Are you filming videos from the ship right now?
I'm planning also to become a marine engineering 😅
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Chief, Retired US Navy Officer now teaching HS cadets in a Navy JROTC program. Love your content and I often use it to discuss the role of the Merchant Services throughout the world. Even though Philippine based it is remarkably germane to all countries. Odd question, years ago when I was in the Philippines, I remember hearing that one of the Military Academies, PMI or PMMA required that English be used to communicate. Is this true in any way or just folklore. It would make sense to know English in the Merchant Service but again not sure if this is fact. Keep up the great work.
It's PMA, the military academy. Yes, it's true. PMMA also does this although not as strict in enforcing it as PMA.
I met and worked with a lot of Philippine seamen. (Engineering) first question who went to PMMA? Normally finger pointing and laughing…. “he did” a great bunch of guys to work with even the most shittiest jobs done with enthusiasm and a smile. A great pleasure to work with… except….. in the crew room when Karaoke kicks off PMMA needs a music class 😂😂 great fun. New Year’s Eve onboard with lechón de leche and all the trimmings. Great bunch of guys it is apart from financial reasons philipino crew have become the leaders at sea.
Look at a lot of those pictures and train your eyes ask for a reexam
Chief MAKOi is the Real Life Geordi La Forge 😉
OH MYYYY, CHIEF MAKOIII WE HAD THE SAME MISTAKE IN THE ISHIHARA TEST. I AM AN APPLICANT OF PMMA FOR THE CLASS OF 2027, HAHA. WHAT A COINCIDENCE, I ANSWERED 71, I ALSO HESITATED AND SHE IMMEDIATELY FLIPPED UNTO THE NEXT PAGE.
so, the first days are exactly the days, whan you wanna go home)
Viva Don Bosco 💪🏿🙏🏿
Chief if di ka pa sasakay Ng barko share your knowledge po sa mga students ❤
great video.
but the audio level is too low.
Noted. Thanks for the feedback.