(TAS) Super Punch Out!! - 2 Player Mode [2P Wins All Fights] (
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- I started this TAS several months ago, but left it unfinished due to various other distractions that took my attention away from it. There's likely several improvements that others could make over this, but I felt like this might be a decent starting point for others to build onto if they wanted.
For people who might be unfamiliar with what this is all about, a fellow by the name of @new_cheats_news on Twitter found several undiscovered cheat codes for all releases of Super Punch Out!
/ 1556727895778856960
The 1st one is by pressing and holding Y+R with the 2nd controller while 1p presses A or Start on the title screen. This brings you to a secret menu where you can fight any opponent. If you select a character on that hidden menu, then hold B+Y with the 2p controller during the pre-fight text while pressing A or Start, then the 2nd controller lets you control the opponents!
This TAS was made to try answer the question of: "What are the best possible times you can get as player 2 if player 1 happened to throw out whatever attacks that are beneficial for player 2?"
This is the opposite of the TAS I released a while back, which attempted to get the lowest player 1 times possible, which can be seen here: • (TAS) Super Punch Out!...
There are quite a few fights that end up being weirdly trivial, while some others end up being either interesting, or really silly. I'll give some descriptions of each.
Gabby: For this TAS, both players hitting each other on the same frame will cancel some of the end-lag of player 2's attacks, which ends up saving time in some cases! I fit some in to complement the damage from Gabby's "C'mon!" charges, which freeze the clock. These fights are optimized for in-game time, so attacks like these will be used when available.
Bear: Pretty similar fight to Gabby, but exchange the charges for bear hugs.
Piston: This one likely took the most effort out of the entire TAS lol. I went through several drafts of this strategy, since the first several strategies had so many double hits that Piston would go dizzy, meaning I would have to make him back up to freeze the clock and let his meter drop back down. This version ended up being the best damage per second for double hits that I could find. Piston also starts phases with uppercuts automatically, meaning it needed to be worked around. I'm not convinced this is the best strategy, but it's good for now.
Bull: Similar to the other TAS, but Bull takes the win each charge.
Bob: The fast hooks are filthy on Bob, and mixing it with his windmill charges make this fight a really quick one.
Dragon: His kicks freeze the timer and are instant knockdowns, making this ridiculously short.
Muscle: Muscle's quick jabs, punctuated with headbutt, makes short work of phase 1. It's worth noting that moves with a lot of end-lag ends up usually working out to be faster at the end of knockdowns, since the timer stops immediately when the final blow connects. This is also the first fight where a P1 KO seems to be possible, due to how short phase 2 ends up being, combined with how low health P1 has right before the knockdown. KO mechanics against P1 appear fairly similar compared to the normal game.
Sandman: This might be my favorite, because Sandman's big jab is so ABSURDLY powerful, and its speed is hilarious when cancelled with double hits. I also have Sandman take P1 out with 2 fast jabs, because if you throw a powerful hit for a faster phase 2, P1 doesn't get KO'd, and the KO ends up faster.
Aran: I tried a lot of different stuff for this fight, but fast attacks + 1 normal jab always ended up being the winning strategy.
Heike: The same disgusting hook from Bob shows up again, and it's very clearly the most lucrative button as far as damage and speed. Hair, while powerful, has a very long startup, and ending a phase with it gives P1 a big refill for phase 2, making a KO not quickly feasible, since Heike automatically starts phase 2 with a scripted uppercut.
Clown: Instant knockdowns too strong.
Macho: Super spin freezes time & connects 1 frame after the timer starts again, making this the shortest possible time for a fight to end with in the game.
Narcis: The fast 3 jab combo lends itself well to setting up a KO, and just being better than every other button he has.
Hoy: Stick partially freezes the clock & deals massive damage, making it the move of choice for this kind of TAS. It also happens to leave P1's health just low enough for a 1 phase KO.
Rick: Instant knockdown + fast hook secures yet another ridiculously fast KO.
Nick: Instant knockdown + fast uppercut makes short work of this fight.
The ending I go to at the end of this video is actually unlockable through another code that @new_cheats_news found which you can see here:
/ 1557458843361333250
Anyways, thanks for watching!
the ending is Mac sitting in his hospital bed after his 55 second career, hallucinating that he won all his fights because of his severe brain damage
*_"Have Your Bruises Healed Yet Amigo?"_*
My perspective of super punch out is now absolutely forever changed..
All the doctors could get in response from Mac was the same thing. “Pizza cake…” Some say the concussions he endured from his time as a boxer have him stuck in a trance reliving each fight throughout the day
That's not little Mac but lol
@@FrankKnife1Not Little Mac but Lil Mac i dunno why they make him like that.
Aran Ryan might have not been the fastest, but lordy he was probably the most brutal.
Look at heike tho
I am finna be real, Mad Clown was a bigger problem for me. Ryan was easy, the other fights just get way harder. Fucking Hoy Quarlow, and Nick Bruiser too. Those fights literally just absolutely destroyed me before I got gud
He isn't that brutal in supper punch out, surprisingly.
and that's when he's clean... Imagine that insanity in Punch-Out Wii xD
He was doing like a barrage like Goku Or Jotaro levels of Speed punches
Imagine paying front row tickets for a Title Bout and the Champion wins by TKO in 0.05 seconds
0.05 seconds*
@@joeyabuki8159 unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way.
Hey, but Super Macho Man's a beast though
Someone mentioned in the "1P Win" TAS that this was pretty close to Iron Mike back in his undefeated days. He was so skilled that several fights had to be booked in the same ticket, or something like that.
@@The-su4pj "(edited)"
Pizza cake getting his ass handed to him by every SPO fighter in world record time
Best comment
Fuck it, his name is now pizza cake
But why is his name pizza cake
Oh I get it now
@@HeavyWeaponsGuyisHorny he's certainly not little mac, he looks nothing alike, so his catchphrase must be related to his name
"I've heard someone can beat you in 11 milliseconds"
- Canadian bear hugger
Super Macho Man: You Underestimated me. *Gets FRICKING 0"05
@@Thetoucanman918Do You Mean Dragon Chan?
@@BarbaraGarcia9683no, the original comment was a reference to bear hugger’s line in the end credits
Punches Thrown: ZERO
If Super Punch-Out had a Title Defense mode:
I Know lol
Good ROM idea
Bro, Super Macho Man literally beat Mac in 0'00"05 seconds!
That's a 5/100 of a second...impressive!
@@MXonaskateboardwhy yes
Bro beat you up in 40x speed!
10:47 (technically on 10:46, but CZcams rounding is weird {edit, not entirely wrong, but sorta is})
11:13
~26 IRL seconds.
Countdown 1: 6
Countdown 2: 8
Countdown 3: 10
2 seconds of actual fight (minus the timestop) in real time.
Gotta admit, it was kinda nice to see Gabby Jay win a fight.
It wasn't really a fight Mac just stood there
Look, Gabby needs all the help he can get.
2-99
@@gabeguzman9478 Gabby Jay is now ranked higher than Glass Joe
Yay! Yay! Yay! 😄
Gabby Jay enjoying life by just saying "yay :)"
The timeline if the boxers were actual boxers.
More like how someone of Little Mac’s build would realistically perform in professional boxing. (He’s too short and too light for most of these guys and he’s too young to be doing professional boxing (he needed to wait two more years for that to clear).
@@DragonBallZKaifan2I thought it was one year?
Glass Joe simulator
Fr fr
Fr fr
But what about nick bruiser
@@hareldrap69420 Glass Joe did the Gabby Jay 6 hour TAS fight strategy I'm assuming
@@spaceloser20 just doing come on's and yay's
Mac would later wake up in a hospital bed next to glass Joe saying: did you also lose 99 times in a row?
I sure did joe, i sure did
@@rubykaylaandogie3334”how about we fight too, so that at least one of us gets to remember the last time we won?”
*(Later…)*
*(Blonde Mac gets speedblitzed in an instant)*
joe: JAI GAGNE!!
(joes line for when he wins in td mode which means i win!!!!!!)
@@rubykaylaandogie3334
“Mais désolé, Little Mac. Bon travail.”
PS: it’s spelt J’ai Gagné, but oh well
That’s the extent of my French, Google translate did borderline 100% of the work for the top sentence, it’s probably wrong. I meant to say “but sorry Little Mac [for beating you up]. Good game.”
I knew that once the 2P mode was unlocked, this was inevitably going to be made by you. I was not disappointed.
Imagine being knocked out in 1 twentieth of a second in real life
3 times!😅
In this game you automatically get up without even pressing buttons, in some of the earlier fights mashing is optional
Getting up earlier is actually good in this case, I've noticed.
Probably one the few TAS' that as soon as it was made, humans can already pull it off.
Honestly, I expected this just to be a spam of the boxers' best moves (like bull charge or bear hug). But no, it actually involves some strategy to make the moves that deal the most damage.
And a cool thing that I noticed: Gabby Jay takes almost the same amount of time to finish you as his wr in the regular game.
PS: missed your vids, zallard.
To be fair, executing these in real time would all be pretty easy, even if somehow no buffers existed for a lot of double hits. The strategy finding is definitely the more fun part for something like this.
Jake Paul if he ever fought someone his own age:
What 56? Lol
I love this comment considering whats happening right now lol
Jake Paul playing Mike Tyson's punch out in real life:
This is the greatest example of tables turning
Nick bruiser has the most nicest ending animation out of all of the boxers
great video zallard1, unfortunately I have been stuck on bald bull for 4 years
need help to overcome him?
That Dragon Chan time though.
Edit: Like an orthopedic insole I stand corrected... That Macho Man time 🤯
Macho man is wild
The SPO boxers finally get their revenge.
Imagine if Super Punch Out had a title defense mode.
@@Marsuru1, I was the tenth person to like your comment!
This is a nice playthrough of what would really happen if a 5 foot tall, 110 pound rookie fighter fought professional heavyweight boxers.
nah but nick paying respects was mad wholesome
You thought they would've learnt by now to not launch their super attacks every time, except it worked unlike last time
the Bear fight is just accurate to people's first experience with Wii Bear
Contender or TD?
@@PumpFansMain both
@@metalapplesus ok
Why does Aran Ryan need to cheat if he is THAT good?!
Because he's Aran Ryan
Probably because everyone else in his circuit and beyond can't help themselves from cheating.
He actually doesn't in spo
Gabby jay% should be the runs name
the animation heiki kagero does when mac is knocked down is too funny to me
If hoy can take Medium Mac down in one go, but Dragon Chan is the fastest, by 0:00"11 then I'd gladly like to see those two face off
super macho man has a 0'00"05
@@internetexplorerpony oh
can't wait for punch out switch to drop starring big mac
@@internetexplorerpony dude, that’s totally bogus
@@Thetoucanman918 hehe bogus
This is a great idea for an online mode
Unless Nintendo finds a way to patch it out on NSO and ruin the fun
There’s two problems.
1: This game performs badly on Switch Online.
2: There are at least two fighters who would need to be banned because they have an easy-to-input, uninterruptable healing move in this 2-Player mode. (Gabby Jay & Mad Clown)
Super Macho Man went to prison for murder after their fight
This was awesome. This is what TAS was made for 🤣
Stats:
TKO's: Gabby, BH, Piston, BB, BC, DC and SMM
KO after 2nd KD: MM Sandman AR HK MC RB NB
KO after first: NP and HQ
Which means Narcis Prince has the most power in the game because he's the only fighter to win by single KO with his fists.
ain't no way super macho man is 28🤣
Those tanning beds.
Dude put in that work. At 0'00"5, no one knocks out Mac faster.
it's about drive it's about power
Hes tanned
Steroids man
Player 2 is killing it!
I wonder what the canon explanation is for time stopping when fighters jump around the ring.
It just goes to next round/decision to quick
I always took it that the timer slowing/speeding is that your perception of the ring is altered due to the adrenaline, like the timer is slowed when they're doing that because you're really focused on them when in reality it's almost instant, same with the timer slowing while punching them.
Okay at least Nick was nice enough to pay respect to ya
Just curious: is 2P that overpowered? It would be very entertaining to see a slugfest% if 2p isn't that overpowered in just their regular punches.
It is
It is actually impossible for the mac to win unless P2 throws
How To Win As Mac / Peter Punch / Challenger / WHOEVER IS THE SPO PROTAGONIST, IM SICK OF THESE FANON NAMES AND STUFF I NEED AN OFFICAL ANSWER-
Step 1, *You Dont.*
@@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBadI mean I've beaten my small brother sometimes on P1 side
@@HeavyWeaponsGuyisHorny yeah it’s a little brother
I didn't expect Mac to get up a few times. Can he get up automatically without input?
Was thinking the same, a quicker TAS would just let Mac stay down to the count of 10, but I guess zallard1 was aiming for TKO and not KOs.
In this game you automatically get up without even pressing buttons, in some of the earlier fights mashing is optional
@@ThonyHedgehog This game makes Mac get up automatically without any mashing if he gets a refill greater than 0.
@@zallard1 wdym refill
@@amaze3727 Health refill; what you get back in your health bar after a knockdown.
The power of yay will redeem himself
Let’s be real, because of how buff Nick Bruiser is, Little Mac had to have got a whooping from Nick (13:58)
I mean, Nick Bruiser busted his head 2 times.
0:14 probably all of the Gabby Jay (and Glass Joe) dreams haha
4:10; HOLY SHIT Bald Bull TKO'ed Little Mac in less than ONE SECOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dragon ball z fights
Super macho man time is wild
@@5UBJ3CT3GGyeah, he “punches” at 40x speed.
Gotta admit… I never thought Bob Charlie would sound like that.
Yæi!
bob charlie uses one of gabby jay’s voiceclips
Bald Bull *literally* beat Mac in half a second
Macho beat Mac in under 5 milliseconds
You are basically the Pannenkoek2012 of punch out, and I mean that as a VERY big compliment
From what I tested, the fastest Mr. Sandman can win against P1 is if you have Mr. Sandman TKO Transparent (P1) in 0'02"92 by doing the following:
Open Counter-Phase 1 with 2 Double Hits (Power Jab + P1 Jab), then Jab, then a Power Jab to finish Counter-Phase 1 at 0'02"49.
P1 gets up on 8, and you throw a Power Jab to finish Counter-Phase 2 at 0'02"75.
P1 gets up on 8 again, and you throw a Jab to finish Counter-Phase 3 & TKO P1 at 0'02"92.
Imagine playing this with Zallard1 and he's P1
Wait, so what are the conditions for a P1 KO?
Is it dealing more damage than the next refill? Or a special move?
Does it variate with each fight?
Generally, refills in the normal version of the game revolve around how fast a knockdown happens in a phase, what boxer you're facing, and with how much HP the opponent had before the finishing blow. It calculates a refill based on those, and if that refill is "0" or below, it's a KO. For this TAS, the main character gets a refill based on those criteria for if you don't mash to get up at all. If you mash to get up, you will get extra HP added to that base refill. If the base refill doesn't at least equal 1 or more, then even mashing won't get you up.
@@zallard1 Does the type of attack also have an impact on the next refill?
@@eliasdex1236 Nope, the only thing that matters about the punch is whether or not it's the one that knocks the opponent down.
@@zallard1 Oh emm, what I meant was if the type of attack affected the KO mechanic in any way? Because I saw on the description that Mr. Sandman had to use fast jabs instead of the big one to get the knockdown in order for the KO to happen.
@@eliasdex1236 The "how much HP the opponent had before the finishing blow" part of what I said above is the reason. It's not the punch itself, but the fact that its weak enough to lower his HP down to a very low number before being knocked down.
If punch out was lore accurate to Mac.
Go Gabby Jay!
this is what the 2p mode for punch out wii shoulda been
SPO little Mac being desimated
I wonder which of the opponents is OP in 2 player mode. As in if both players were playing competitively.
I find it funny how many of the characters for the 2nd player have an instant KO.
i have no clue what you did but good job
in the title screen, make the 2nd controller hold Y and R, then with the 1st controller press start or A
it will send u to like a character selection screen, now, choose whoever u want, when u choose them, u will get sent to like an info of them, in that info, make 2nd controller hold B and Y, then press start on 1st controller, this will make 2nd controller control the opponent
I love how Super Macho Man wins 10 times faster than bald bull
Macho knocking Mac out in 1 millisecond is wild
10:47 1 millisecond. That’s very fast.
Centisecond.
Bob Charlie has the same voice as gabby Jay
Everyone has the same voice actor in this game. They're all done by Charles Martinet
He's a palette swap of Gabby Jay.
wait a darn minute, why did bob charlie win and then become gabby jay?
Yea, the sound.
same base sprites, just like a lot of nes punch out characters
@@vivvuspalette swaps
9:33 XD
Stage 1: Gabby Jay
Stage 2: Bear Hugger
Stage 3: Piston Hurricane
Stage 4: Bald Bull (Boss Battle #1)
Stage 5: Bob Charlie
Stage 6: Dragon Chan
Stage 7: Masked Muscle
Stage 8: Mr. Sandman (Boss Battle #2)
Stage 9: Aran Ryan
Stage 10: Heike Kagero
Stage 11: Mad Clown
Stage 12: Super Macho Man (Boss Battle #3)
Stage 13: Narcis Prince
Stage 14: Hoy Quarlow
Stage 15: Rick Bruiser (Boss Battle #4)
Final Stage: Nick Bruiser (Final Boss)
dear god the dragon chan is so fast
Jesus machoman is even faster
Damn this is traumatizing to watch. It's like Mac was blackmailed into losing all these fights and the boxers got to take out their pent up frustrations on Mac. Bob Charlie and Heike Kagero just went to town.
9:34 omg queen of deltarune
Can someone use an engine where they pick either Peter Punch or Nick Bruiser as 1P? And all the other Bosses except for Nick Bruiser as 2P?
It’d be interesting to see the boxers fight each other. I wonder if glass joe would score a win somehow.
1)Paying hundreds of bucks for the match
2)The champ wins in 0.05 seconds.
3) Thanks for watching the match. Drive safely.
14:43: End Credits
This is so hilarious. Lol
has anyone noticed Bob Charlie does the "yay" when he beats Mac?
Very odd
bear hugger should be in the world circuit because he could just
fall on you
and kill you
instantly
would it not be faster to mash 1P's inputs when pizza cake is down so he gets up quicker, thus leading to a TKO faster? this is an honest question btw; i haven't played SPO in a while and dont quite remember how the health mechanics work
The timer pauses when pizza cake is knocked down and super punch out speed run timings are IGT, I think him getting up faster actually gives him more health and makes it longer (but I don't speedrun this game so I'm probably wrong)
Can you do one where both player 1 and player 2 play like they did in the [P_ always wins] TASes?
Zallard is the best
How is Narcis the first one to get a single knock down K.O. 😂
Ok, so in order for this to happen to me in single player, my game has to smoke crack for two years.
Why is the Canadian guy called bear hugger when he doesn't bearhug but instead do earclaps
Thanks for the video
Total Score: 100,000,000
At 2x speed, they punch like real boxers!
Step step C’mon! Step step, c’mon!
The year is 20XX. After many years of destroying the competition, defending his title, and keeping his career alive against all odds, the boxers of the WVBA have finally had enough of Little Mac. As such, they invited him to fight a grand gauntlet to prove his worth. Little did poor Mac know, the 16 boxers lined up had something more sinister in mind; he could never have known that this one event would prove to be his downfall.
The first opponent in the line up was Gabby Jay, whom Mac assumed would be easy pickings given his reputation and age. But he was gravely mistaken. He was not at all like Glass Joe, whom he was essentially an older version of; he was able to completely throw him off with his taunts and knock him down onto the mat.
Next was Bear Hugger, who was able to temporarily render Mac deaf with rapid-fire ear claps, meaning he could never have heard of the gale-force attacks from Piston Hurricane that came next.
Mac was then assaulted by Bald Bull's famous Bull Rush.
The groovy windmill punches of Bob Charlie and the kicks of Dragon Chan soon followed, after which came the headbutts of Masked Muscle and the ever dreaded Dreamland Express specially served by Mr. Sandman.
Aran Ryan soon came onto the stage, and he didn't have to throw any headbutts or elbows to stomp all over him; he didn't even need to bring his custom-made flail.
Heike Kagero soon gave him a piece of his mind, while Mad Clown made him the star of his mutilation act.
After that came Super Macho Man, who released the mightiest of boguses as revenge for stealing his fame.
On the topic of revenge, Narcis Prince would get retribution for his mangled face, while Hoy Quarlow would beat him senseless with his staff.
As Mac begged for mercy, the Brothers Bruiser took centre stage, and in an act of brotherly unity, the two worked together to finish the job.
In the final scene, as Mac sat in the hospital, his body mangled and wrapped in so many bandages that it made him look like a mummy, flashes of his glory days passed through his mind. The worst part of it all? Doc Louis didn't pay his medical bills. We wasn't even present during the beatdown; he was too busy partying at the chocolate bars convention with his former rivals.
Reads like ChatGPT, also the Brotherly Unity thing sounds really strange given what actually happened
Epic
Is Heike's laugh one of the queen's laughs from deltarune-?
The anime "Ojousama laugh"
18:12: Game Over
who knew bear hugger was such a killer
I wonder what happens if both players fight optimally in a TAS vs. TAS fight? Would any fighters be able to beat the uhhh.. Not-Little-Mac?
Yes
Nick bruiser is easily the lamest character in any punch-out game, but that fight was so based
Masked muscle was pretty strong but others were stronger
Imagine showing up to fight and getting clapped on the FIRST FRAME.
I find the Dragon Chan fight amusing. P1 taunts him by swaying left and right rapidly but gets absolutely destroyed by the kick and then it repeats twice. Nothing was learned. 0 points and NO BONUS!
YOUR BEST 3’00’’00
10 years of me being a fan of these games and it is only just now occurred to me that Bob Charlie porn on Bob Marley
Edit: I mean, pun not porn
Thank you auto dictation for never understanding what the fuck I’m saying
Pun.
The spelling you used refers to another thing for 18 year olds and above.
@@Aaa-vp6ug god fucking dammit I hate talk to text
Thanks for pointing that out
@@SirKingsley15 no problem mate! 👍
If the in-game timer's to be taken as in-universe time... How do you think Super Macho Man's sum of 5 milliseconds looked to the audience?
Super Saiyan
No wonder he’s so popular
Gabby Jay is 2-99 😂
*Peter Punch gets destroyed by everyone*
Hold up, this game have 2 players mode?
Yes. I think the code’s in the description