Parelli Natural Horse Training Tip - What Is Respect?
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2010
- Learn how horse trainer Pat Parelli teaches his horse to respect a request by using Natural horse training methods.
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I trained my own Arabian stallion and ride him tackless. The only pressure required to turn him is to look in the direction I want to go which shifts my weight on my seat. No cue is any stronger than that because they don't need to be. He's the same way on the ground. He learned every cue from the ground before I ever mounted him. The first time I got on his back he was tackless and hadn't been ground worked in advance. Instead I scratched, rubbed and groomed him until he was so relaxed his eyelids were drooping. After spending a fair amount of time laying across his back, laying across and sliding off the other side and basically climbing all over him I finally got all the way on then sat up slowly. He didn't even act surprised but just headed for the gate. After checking his steering and brakes I agreed we could go for a ride down one of the trails I'd often walked him on. The first ride on even the most proud and spicy young horse can be as uneventful as that if it's just part of an ongoing conversation between yourself and a horse rather than an obstacle to be surmounted or an isolated event separate from everything you do with your horse. Ideally this is what every part of training should be. And make no mistake, whether it's your intent or not, every minute you spend with your horse you are training him. Unless you keep that in mind you might be training him to do something you won't like. Every tiny bit of body language, intentional or not, is telling your horse something about you. I don't care if you're only mucking. Be present in the moment because you can be certain your horse is. (Oops. I think I wrote a book in the comment section.)
I'm not replying to any comments because I don't wanna hear your crap xD I LOVE Parelli methods... I've been using them on my EXTREMELY stubborn, and nervous abused mare and the methods work beautifully. Sure, recently the prices are skyrocketing and everything is so expensive, but I enjoy these methods so much and I buy everything... my horse now loves me and is becoming more responsive to my "suggestions" (commands for you traditional trainers) and I'm just so happy. I'd join if I were you :D
I love this man, he is amazing!
You are right that it is possible to train a horse by treating him this way, but the experience can be much more rewarding and less stressful for both you and the horse if you learn to read subtle shifts in your horse and respond accordingly, you will actually end up with a horse who sees you not just as "the punisher", but also someone he can trust and seek out when he is feeling uncomfortable. It's also safer to take this approach as you can generally avoid dangerous behaviors altogether.
Zoe P-J you right you would have a horse that is great at training you to adapt to what he wants to do and you will never have a problem with him because you give to his behaviour but that’s the same thing that pat is saying just he is the one doing the training not being pushed around by the horse lol you must have all kinds of excuses for when you can’t get your horse to do something or settle down lol
He is so shiney!!!!!!
I see it as you pay for quality things. Yes, I agree the DVDs could go down a lot, and my family isn't rich either. But, about the round pen, it doesn't have to be lovely wooden fencing. We use electric tape and the plastic poles. My mum, when first starting Parelli didn't have enough money to buy the expensive kit, so she got a bamboo cane and attached baling twine on the end to make a carrot stick, then used two dog leads for the rope. xD Later on she got the better kit.
with steady pressure. The technique is to "fix and wait". You MUST match the amount of pressure the horse is using. Tom Dorrance said sometimes you might need to use the amount of pressure two gorillas could use... But...you're arranging it in such a way where the horse is applying all pressure to himself. You HOLD. When the horse relaxes and gives, they come off their own pressure. But Catwalk learned how to win the contest. He needed a technique where the handler could have more leverage and
If only people would listen to what is being communicated, they might be able to develop som affinity with the horse!!!
@Copper2903 I agree. I went to see Parelli back in the 90's. He was a great person, and he took his time to talk to everyone after his clinic but I left that day feeling like Parelli was just a gimmick for money. I didn't get anything out of his clinic, he left so many holes in his demonstration I felt like I HAD to buy his kits to work his methods. Check out Cherry Hill (the author) she was doing parelli stuff before parelli started marketing his methods.
@EvannyAngel If you're horse doesn't respond you must remember to: Prepare to a Position before a Transition. A transition is any change in gait-direction-speed or balance. When you are prepared in the proper position to ask your horse for a movement--you must first use as little pressure as possible--out of respect for how sensitive the horse is. They will usually blow you off. If this is the case you must Escalate Your Aid! This means to increase you energy steadily using calm-assertive energy
@EvanRB ok 1stly, this is not the way of horses... body language is the way of horses and Ive studied the parelli way of training and the only thing natural about it is the horse is going to obey something it knows can hurt it.... do you know how the teach a horse to back the parelli way? the stand in front of him and thrash the rope until he backs... the natural way to do it, is to teach a horse that when you move towards his rump with a slight lean to your figure, he backs... and all you need
good
This horses main problem is the way you're schooling him, I bet he responds well to rhythm and repetitiveness
@FrillySlayerPig horses comunicate through pressure along with other body language. if a horse wants to gain respect they make others move their feet using PRESSURE. horses are extremely sensitive and can detect the slightest change in you (or other horses),
just a side note, I know a 5yr old gelding who was being trained like this and he now hates lead ropes (Dont ask me exactly how people did this all i know is they did something weird with his lead rope that was supposed to be parelli and now they make him tweak out)
until your horse gives you a response. You may have to get VERY firm, but you should not worry about being too firm, as you will never be able to match what an alpha mare could potentially do. HOWEVER--sometimes you may be applying the wrong technique, or the right technique with the wrong horse or at the wrong time. When this happens it is greatly beneficial to have numerous methods or techniques of getting a job done so that you will always be able to find something that works.
Haha thanks!
pat is ah-mazing!
He does, often. Just when showing things like this he'll need a horse that knows what he's on about and would be able to teach other students easier. Look up some of his other stuff, he trains a lot of problem horses. Even asks people to let him do a demo with them!
That's not horse slaughter, how do they have such a good bond with new horses!
But what do you do if a horse bites you? for example some stallions often bite. you can't let the horse bite you?..
@hyperfocus2011 ....you got that right. I've got one that I'd be glad to loan him for a day or two and see how that works out.
I never loan my horse to anyone although I'll let people pet him if they are with me and don't go in by themselves.
Horses bite each other. That's natural. You don't need to be too fluffy about it. They bite, kick, and shove if subtler suggestions don't work. That is the way of the horse. Your horse should always be lower in the pecking order than you! If not, you have a serious injury in your future. You need to spend some time watching wild horses interact. Horse training can be natural but that doesn't always make it gentle. Some horses need you to get firm!
@hyperfocus2011 It's quite rare for a horse to live so long...this horse is clearly not 40.
but yes, I understand what you mean this horse probably already knows what's going on and Pat isn't showcasing his techniques on the type of horse they were meant to be used on...
cause the wrong thing to be difficult. However perception is everything! And some of the audience mistook that for abuse. Pat Parelli maybe shouldn't have used that technique in front of that audience if he wasn't willing to accept the possibility that some people wouldn't understand what he was doing. Anyone who has ever watched Buck Brannaman or Ray Hunt they would know that sometimes "horse whisperers" have license to be very firm if necessary.
@EvanRB pecking order. when i work with my horses, i respect them and they respect me. if i use an offensive body language, they back off, and i do the same to them, they have their space and i have mine, thats the only natural way to train a horse, not using this carrot stick and whip crap. thats a way of bullying your horse until he gives up
@MsWizbang In what way?? This is the way horses are. It is the safest, most humane and most effective approach in training horses. If you've got a better way I'd certainly like to see it.
have you ever seen horses together in a meadow? what does the highest rank horse do when another horse dont give it respect? I does'nt exactly smile at it. And we never call that horse abuse. So why cant we give the horse a ''nip'' if it does'nt give us respect as the leader? Mistreating a horse is when you do it at the wrong time, but if you do it at the right time it does'nt hurt the horse physicaly nor make it trust you less cuz the horse will know what it did wrong.
get a guilding
@TheBanana1226 yes they can what i mean is he needs to stop showing his horse and use a colt.
if the definition of trick training is just that "the horse learns to move it's head....negative experience" then all of riding is trick training.
It has everything to do with respect...no one wants a horse to swing their head into your head when you're grooming or talking...a horse isn't born knowing respect, respect must be taught hopefully at an early age but at least one point in their life or else the horse can be very dangerous. There's no tricks about it...just common sense :)
It's just simple trick-training, That has nothing to do with respect, It's a simple pavlov-reaction. The horse learns to move it's head because otherwise it gets a negative experience. Parelli is nice to show of amongst your friends.
But: if you know how to use your body languages you don't need a whip! I train my slighty dominant gelding completly without whip, not because I think it's cruel to the horse, but because I think the horse should respect me, and not the whip I'm holding.
I like David Lee Archer better.
No matter how much I love parelli and wonder how amazing it is, it always makes me unhappy that you have to be rich to afford to buy the equitment, some of the dvd are over £1000! And some could say "Well if you really wanted it you would save up" but I can't save that much, a starter kit is over £100 and I would feel guilty making my parents buy that for me. We can't all afford a class arena or a round pen, we play around in a field. Parelli is a rip off. Yes its amazing but its still a rip off
Do you support horse slaughter?
its not respectful, its scared. because it knows, it will get punished, if it doesnt act like it has to.
madamebellesoiree so what would you suggest instead?
Lol how did you arrive at that brilliant deduction?
@EvanRB wiggling the rope and causing it to hit the horse in the face is the most pathetic way to teach a horse to back..... and yes, i have seen yearlings interact, however not in the way you described. my horses acutally use natural cues with one another. they push on each other to move them, change their body position, and use teeth and ears. you dont need to bite them, and you dont need them to think they are lower on the
Can't believe that people fall for this crap.
this method of training is disgusting
Love watching and learning from Pat! He's such an amazing teacher! And that's such a gorgeous horse. Very club footed and not being trimmed correctly but pretty.
@MsWizbang You're correct, body language is the way of horses. In the Parelli method only body cues are utilized, not verbal cues. Wiggling the rope is a crude but effective method of teaching beginners how to back their horses up; and arguably it is a natural method of backing them up: Have you ever seen two yearlings standing face to face, biting each other in the jaw, until one gives up and yields. Rope wiggling is essentially the human equivalent, since we can't bite them ourselves.
Pat has some really great stuff but like everyone else I have taken a clinic from im there to learn what fits and works for me to make my own training methods but I do like alot of what he does
@EvanRB to do that is a little bit of pressure in their chest. just one finger can teach them. this is how its done out in the wild to, horses dont point in the direction they want another horse to go, they use their body language.
@FrillySlayerPig Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling studied the same techniques Pat Parelli did. A lot of the Parelli method comes from European Circus training. The method Pat Parelli used while working with Catwalk was a technique. Some horses are so successful in evading or pushing against pressure you have to figure out how to be more effective. You need to Cause the wrong things to be difficult, but not hard...but sometimes people who are not experienced in advanced techniques, can mistake force
@FrillySlayerPig though they may not show it. but if you learn to speak with them in their language witch does include using pressure you can become their leader. they look for leadership, for direction and if you realy want a horse to respect you have to show them that you are that.
If it's really dangerous (i.e., like the horse is charging or lunging at you), then a "bop" is probably the most reasonable approach. However, if you understand what biting is (the horse trying to herd you and make you move out of his way), then naturally the solution is to remind your horse that HE has to move out of YOUR way. So if you just make your horse move his shoulder/ head away from you whenever he looks like he might try to bite, you can typically avoid the confrontation altogether.
The thrashing part is exactly how a gelding i new got terrified of ropes....
@SuperShezza1982 This is a plain rope halter, not a "pressure halter". It allows the use of comfort and discomfort (something horses understand) to be used effectively. Have you seen horses use teeth and heels? Then you've seen the equivalent of NH tools. It is called natural horsemanship because the principles are natural to the horse. Please do some more research; you will see how much the Parellis have to offer you and your horse.
pat
Parelli isn't just for submissive horses or ones that aren't dominant....it works great for dominant horses as well as the ones that are more meek. It all has to do with following the program
Excellent, but...in Parelli ways, can someone explain to me how to get my mare to respond when she KICKS at the hand/stick/me that is yielding her hindquarters away?
@hyperfocus2011 uh....they typically don't live anywhere near that long...but i get your point
Some do but it's uncommon.
@@leealexander3507 Wow this is a blast form the past! I think the original comment is gone, and yes while some horses can live to be quite old, the original comment was saying that this horse is 40 when it clearly isn't that old. But their point of "it clearly knows what it's doing/is already well trained" was still valid. However, they had also insinuated that 40 was middle aged for a horse, if i remember correctly.
@@Horsedogz 40 Would be extremely old are it would show. You can easily tell if a horse is in late old age.
the trashing of the rope doesn't make a horse afraid of the rope...humans do...when pressure is applied at the appropriate time, and then removed at the appropriate time it won't cause any fear of any equipment. It's not releasing, being over aggressive, or how strong you use the rope that makes them afraid of the ropes.
XD Exactly
yes i have. but who said we have to act like horses? would you like it if your horse wants to fight with you for the leadership like they fight in nature? biting, hitting you? i guess not. why do we want to treat the horse like it treats his companions but at the same time you expect the horse to treat you like a human? makes no sense. we humans have other possibilities to communicate. and by the way, if YOU are WORTHY to be the horses leader you dont need to fight for respect, you just get it.
Oh, you bet she knows I'm there! I pat her, rub her, etc, all the while I'm moving toward her tail. I never stand directly behind her, only between her belly and hips in this process.
Aw my goodness all this horse info is over whelming its confusing there are so many differnt ways of doing stuff I like Pareli I like the horse is more like a pet so to speak...
Myra Hamilton. .- Haha... great comment. I take it that you were a novice (4 years ago) and I hope you are a real horseperson by now.
The best thing to do is to watch and listen to only one or maybe two of the real good horsemen that upload videos. Parelli is one of those few and Gerry Cox is another one. Then choose which stile suits you best.
You've already got right the first lesson: Your horse can be either a pet (Parelli), or a working companion (Gerry Cox, or a dangerous slave (Most of the other videos).
About 99% of these horsemanship videos that I've been watching over the last couple of weeks, are pure made up bull-sh*t and guesswork rubbish that will only get you confused and lead you to produce an unhappy, dull, disobedient, dangerous and useless animal.
@hyperfocus2011 lmao..that Horse would be a lot older in that video, Horses live 20+ years depending on their Health/Bloodline..not 40+
Don't bet on it. I've had a few last that long and there are a few on record who lived even longer although it's uncommon.
@Copper2903 WHAT??? Just buy John Lyons dvds much cheaper and he is extremely, alot better than Pat Parelli
gelding
@hyperfocus2011 Horses don't live to 40 years lolll
Show us how to abuse another horse
So a horse only learns from the release of pressure lol so if a horse doesn't move there's no need to increase the pressure as horses only learn from the release of pressure lol. Forget about ground driving a horse as it's only pressure so the horse can't learn a thing lol. Don't know why people kick there horse along as it can't learn a thing by the pressure lol. Forget about pulling up on the reins as the horse can't learn a thing by pressure lol
Darryl Bavington are you reading what you are writing? For one your an idiot lol and two if you never released the pressure your horse would not go when you kick or stop when you pull because when it was looking for the answer to how to make you release pressure regardless of what kind it would not get any release and would not go when you kick or stop when you pull but I think you might be to stupid to learn this because you have never trained a horse in your life because you seem to think that they all come knowing what kick pull turn means LOL!!!!!! Dumb ass
Yeah.....she's a dominant horse mixed with bitchy attitude. TONS of fun to work with, supersmart, exuberant, but a pain in the butt to get playing correctly :P
I am just saying this is not natural what so ever. In the wild horses get beat up by other horses. With some horse the parelli method does not work. My mare for example needs more of a firm hand or else she makes it clear she is boss over everybody.
Can't believe people fall for this crud.
use a horse you havent been training for 40 years....
i feel sorry for you. you will never have a true companionship with a horse with this attitude.