The integrated charge planning in the Skoda ENYAQ - really that bad or quite useful? [EN]
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- Charge planning in ENYAQ is often scolded and negatively evaluated. But is it really not useful? What can automatic planning do? How well can it make adjustments and what are its limits? Let's find out, including voice control with Laura and Powerpass Map in ENYAQ!
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►Video Chapter
00:00 Intro
01:00 important general Information
02:58 automatic Chargeplanning & Setup
07:34 Planning limitations on long distances
09:40 manual adjustment of charge planning
17:46 Charge planning using Laura / Voice assistance
20:44 Adjusting charge planning using Laura / Voice assistance
24:27 Charge planning with the in car powerpass map
28:45 Personal conclusions - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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I use ABRP for trips where I must recharge on route because it has extensive filter capabilities. For instance a filter on chargers where I know my RFID cards will be accepted. Also ABRP takes the terrain and car weight (when entered) into account and the effect it has on power consumption. Skoda Nav can’t do all that. We were on Holiday in Scotland this year and ABRP proved to be very accurate, even without my OBD adapter connected to it.
Danke Matthias für deine tollen Erläuterungen. Wenn man die Routenplanung oft nutzt, bekommt man eine gewisse Routine. Wenn nicht, wird man sich jedes Mal wieder etwas schwer tun wie mit einem PCprogramm, das man nicht oft nutzt.
Hi,
For long trips I prefer to use ABRP coupled with an ODB2 dongle because it has a better projection of how many energy you will have at destination or to the next charging stop. ABRP takes into account the elevation to be travelled while the Enyaq's integrated navigation does not
Thanks for the practical review of internal Navi. Use this on my typical 300-600 km trips (one way), this works perfectly with the built-in Navi. Also a function that recommends an alternative route in event of a sudden queue or other stoppage in traffic on the planned main route.
Had a BMW i3 with a typical 10-12 mile range (summer) from 2014-2018 (115,000km), at that time there was a lot of use of both one and two apps + navi (trip 200km - max 350 km one way).
Today has Powerpass and only uses app to start and stop charger, driving with 80x is in Norway and Sweden, 40,000km 1.5 years.
Thanks for your feedback!
This is a REALLY useful video thank you! (I wish I had had it last week on a longer trip but it is still really useful) I have been fighting with the nav and PowerPass apps to get them to work, now I can. The only other thing I could do with is the ability to plug and charge from within the car just in case I've forgotten my phone and wallet (or lost it, had it stolen etc) . Otherwise, whilst it isn't particularly intuitive, it does work :)
Thanks for your feedback :)
Really great video showing just how SW in Enyaq could be improved... I wonder if someone from Skoda SW team (Cariad most likely) looks at such video and proposes to the team lead that they should improve the user experience... For example using Google Maps, working on how to make software smoother and working faster on existing platform, not only on the ME4. Maybe in a fairytale ;)
I just use ABRP. Not because the in built one is bad (it was before the 3.0 update) but because I am used to abrp
I think i heard that this updated car navigation planning is based on ABRP. I used the updated version in the enyaq from holland to austria and holland to italy and found that the in car navigation planning worked very well.
I had an ABRP subscription but the obd worked terrible with my iphone so very happy with how skoda has improved the navigation.
@@loogmanpaul yes it is much better, but the map display is still poor compared with eg Google maps
@@enyaq_gorm yes I agree with that. For normal trips without charges I prefer Waze. Apple Maps with CarPlay is very good as well because it sends navigation instructions to the speedometer screen.
I would love to see that Skoda pushes SoC and other needed data to ev routing from apple maps. That would be my preferred charge planning and navigation and as you said it is integrated into the speedometer screen and the HUD.
can you do a test of Apple CarPlay navigation
The biggest problem with the charge planning is that you can’t choose networks to prefer or avoid except from power pass. With the current prices power pass is twice as expensive as the tesla chargers, at least in Sweden. And there are several other options that is a better choice than the power pass-chargers.
Right now power pass should be at the bottom of the list.
ABRP is better in that way. But to get it in car play you have to buy the premium version.
The Powerpass Map graphics is what they should have done in the navigation.
Fully agree with you! Maybe they should replace the internal navigation with an enhanced powerpass map with google navigation
@@Speicherelektrisiert with things like Powerpass Map being added, it has all the functionalities software wise, they know how to do it, it’s almost like they started things the wrong way and can’t reverse it anymore.
A small feedback - in the central part of europe the incar navi is more or less usable. But in some countries (e.g. Poland) it can run into problems. This summer I got navigated to a town in Poland with 3 charging stations. 2 of which didn't exist un real life at all and the third one was broken and not working. The next one was barely reachable with my remaining SoC, so drived extremely careful and meanwhile checked in plugshare - that station was marked as broken as well... somehow reached a super slow charger on different direction, in 30mn managed to charge enough to reach a faster charger.. so to summarize - in some countries it's advisable to double check the chargers in other apps..
Thanks for this helpful feedback!
Dear Matthias! Is there a way to contact you privatly, regarding the Škoda fb ev lounge forum / škoda contacts? Thank you very much!
Easiest way to reach out is sending an e-Mail to speicher dot elektrisiert at gmail dot com (just replace dot and at with the respective symbols) :)
Thanks for another greate info about the userbility of the Enyaq. As for the build in navigation i do not use it for a vararity of reasons. 1. i did not find a way that the build in nav will show me how much SOC i will arrive with in real time. example. will it take in hand of cold weather, rain and wind? i have no chance to see if i still arrive with enough SOC. also i dont know if it will renavigate incase i use too much SOC, this lead to range anexarity. 2 Skoda only provide (ofcourse) a special varaity of chargeres, example i cant find Tesla chargeres, so i cant navigate to them unless i manualy write my trip. this leed to might more expencive charging stations. as an example in DK i charge at Ionity for aprox 6-7dkr but if i charge at Clever ill charge at 3-5dk at Tesla ill charge at 3-3,5dk/kwh meaning my trips at the skoda app might be double as expencive than needed. I mostly use ABRP conected with Tronity, this gives me live data from SOC and calculated SOC at arrival, it shows how many charging stations at the location and how many are free. it let me decide esaly which provider i want to use, and one more benefit, i can plan my trip from my pc or phone and it will pop up as a surgestion next time i open ABRP in my Enyaq. only downside is that as its on android auto or appelcarplay you cant navigate from the navigation system, but your codriver will have to adjust via the phone if needed, that way you keep your eyes on the road atleast :) sorry for the loooong tekst
Thanks for your detailed feedback!
At least for me the powepass app on car is crashing too often. Too unstable, unreliable..