Gebert Custom Mauser 71 with all the Bells and Whistles
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Made by Carl Gebert, a master gunsmith in Munich, this custom sporting rifle exhibits all the fancy options available in the 1870s or 1880s! The base action is an 1871 Mauser, which was a single shot rifle. However, this specially made one had been modified to us a fixed box magazine holding 3 or 4 cartridges - and also have a magazine cutoff to allow easy single loading while retaining the loaded magazine. It is chambered for a .50 caliber round (although I'm not sure which one exactly), and also has a pair of double set triggers and a receiver tang sight in addition to barrel-mounted express sights. Clearly a rifle for someone who wanted the best that could be had!
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I wonder if this is how mall ninja AR's and SKS's will be viewed in the year 2162.
"As you can see they used the most advanced tapco plastics of the day..."
throw some Ruger 10-22's in G36 frames in and and you're golden.
Hughes Enterprises This comment is highly underrated.
I had a gunsmith replace my handgun sights by bludgeoning with a hammer, marring the finish on the slide and then glue the new (and loose) sight in place with Loctite. Truly gunsmithing is a lost art
What? You think bubbas didn't exist in the 1800s?
Andrew Casey In Austria a gun smith has to learn this profession for years to get certified by the government. At the end of his education he has to take a test and only then he's allowed to call himself a Büchsenmacher Meister. This results in nearly every gun smith in Austria being able to create a rifle like the one shown in the video.
I mean... that'll work on Russian guns just fine
M95 Same in Germany. We don't have incompetent Gunsmiths over here ;)
I was given a nice dent in the frame of my CZ-82's slide when a gunsmith attempted to re-insert my new extractor's firing pin.
The best part? the extractor failed after 60 rounds, snapping in half and flying away.
Turns out my spring was weak and needed replaced.
Hair triggers or as they are called in German „Stecherabzug" are extremely popular with hunters here in Austria. There are two types, Deutscher Stecher and Französischer Stecher, the German hair trigger is shown in the video and the French one only has one trigger which you can push forward to set it. The German hair trigger is way more common here in Austria and the main concept is to make pulling the shot impossible by having the rifle fire if you're alightly touching the trigger. Those already existed for crossbows.
The sound the bolt makes when it drops is beautiful.
I was dubious when I read this for some reason but then I heard it and when you're right you're right, beautiful sound to go with a beautiful piece
Hexagonal barrels are really pretty for some reason.
That feels like the client had seen a Lee rifle and told the gun maker to reproduce the magazine features on the Mauser ...
i thought it looked like a bolt action rifle that sam hawken might make.
Honestly the only way the gun could be any more fancy would be to have the phrase "2fancy4u" embossed in gold letters down the side XD
Extremely nice hunters rifle. It must have been impressive seeing this new. Thanks for showing this piece.
That gun is gorgeous.
Absolutely amazing craftsmanship. Truely a work of art.
Interesting piece of history, awesome vid as always!
even today this would be a nice rifle. what a gunsmith.
This sporting rifle is 100% Not "Bubba-fied" gun!
I know I'm 3 years late to the party but I think the official term is just "bubba'd"
Awesome stuff as usual!
This gun is so fancy I need a second monocle
This is a rly nice rifle. Seen some pretty crazy guns on this channel, but this sticks out.
That has to be one of my favorite ones i have seen
That looks really cool!
That's a beautiful one
I've been waiting to see something like this pop up
That beauty needs some Ballistol!
Oh, we do!
or konkor oil :)
Quite interesting footage. Would love to see more about classic sporting rifles. Especially those based on Mauser actions.
wow, that is a gem
My god this is a gorgeous piece
you said there was no way to adjust for elevation on that tang sight but from here it looks like you could absolutely adjust that for elevation. maybe deserves a second look.
i say that because the distinctive cross-shape on the back of the sight suggests an ability to adjust in two directions
This is one of the ones that makes you regret getting to the video years late and not being able to actually bid
Love your work, something I'd like to see is a history of weapons. Not just guns. Rocks to Rail Guns...
Whoa, i really dug this one
this is a beautiful rifle
Inn, I dont know how you do it, but even guns wich I normally dont have a lot of interest in, you make it interesting;) keep the nice vids comming;) greets from the Netherlands
Welp, this proves that at some point in my personal future I will become stranded in Nineteenth Century Europe and come into money, cause that is exactly what I'd have made as a stranded time traveler
So classy.
Thats a sweet rifle.
I love seeing these really cool custom conversions!
This is what collecting guns is about.
Now THIS is how you sporterise a military rifle.
Very interesting trigger.
Hi Ian, thanks for the great video. Can you get your hands on Lefaucheux or something similar (I mean pinfire)?
reminds me of the Serbian Duric Mauser 1880/07 which was a single shot Mauser-Koka 1878/80 converted to 7mm mauser smokeless and fitted with a 5-round box magazine. one of the rarest out there. majority were probably destroyed in WW1 or captured by the Austro-Hungarians.
Thanks for the upload. Interesting rifle.
When are we going to get the final prices video from your latest trip to JDJ?
This looks like a very fine rifle. I am curious about the ammunition it would fire. Given all of the advanced (for the time) features, would it be possible it fired smokeless rounds? Bottleneck or straight wall? Always great to see these Oddities. Thanks Ian.
Oh I'm torn.
I would love to shoot this. I really would. It just feels like a crime to do so. Something that old, should be loved, cared for and in a place to enjoy. The idea of putting anything down that barrel......
It really is a thing of odd beauty.
Being fired would not hurt this rifle.
I know what you mean @ThereBeGame It's like a classic Ferrari! I think it'd be more of a crime not to shoot it once in a while :)
Clearly this rifle was made for an avid sportsman, who knew what he wanted and used it.
No reason why the new owner shouldn't shoot or even hunt with it, if the bore is still ok. Making your own ammunition would be the hard part, but not impossible at all.
The rifle seems to be in the perfect "shooter" condition. Mechanically sound, but showing some honest wear.
And the estimated price is under 2k, so it is in the realm of possibility.
Owner of a 71/84 here, it sure turns heads at the range when I bring it out.
Just wolk up, time to chill.. Smoke a cig and watch Forgotten weapons!
Awesome.
C vs K in Karl is more or less a subjective preference today, and you'd be named either Carl or Karl depending on what suits you parents preference, maybe they think spelling it with a C is fancier than with a K, or maybe you inherit which variation you get from your family if it has a precedence of using either letter, this is in sweden mind you so i can't exactly speak for germany, but the reasoning should be the same.
just a tidbit on why you see both Carl and Karl to this day
Carl is simply the "latinised" version, from Carolus. It has nothing to do with being fancy, it's just that "Karl" isn't originally a Germanic name.
Karl comes from the old high german karal what means something like free man, man or husband. So it is a german name. I believe Karl vs Carl was a north(evangelical) vs south(catholic) thing.
In German, it was much, much more common to spell a K as C around the time than now.
These days in Germany the K variant is predominant, but a hundred years back the C variant was far more common. At some point it was then decided that the K was a far more German letter than C...somehow. You'll also notice that we Germans used a lot of French terms before the Nazi era, e.g. 'compagnie' instead of the germanised 'Kompanie' (that's the "& Cie." in many German company names from those times). In fact the highest military decoration in the Kaiserreich was called "Pour le Mérite"..
People in those days must have believed they were living in the most advanced and technological age ever,considering the inventions which were pouring out from inventors and factories everywhere. I remember even in the late forties reading a summary of cars that we had reached the absolute pinnacle of vehicle development,and there was no more to be done to improve cars. Today,we may just be witnessing the demise of cars,eventually only to be a memory for a future generation,and museum pieces to demonstrate mankind's folly in the past.
The trigger system seen on this weapon is called a "Deutscher Stecher" in German and considered pretty unsafe today...it can still be found on older hunting rifles.
Ein Deutscher Stecher ist immer noch sicherer als ein Französicher Stecher.
Wie ist der Franzözischer Stecher?
I love old nineteenth-century rifles. the workmanship even on a standard rifle, especially European ones" is beautiful. I wish I could afford one.
Neat rifle
Note: Among gun folks, probably the best-known Carl-with-a-C from prewar Germany would be Carl Walther (1858-1915).
Very interesting.
Well that's a super nice rifle. I would pay big money for that.
Vintage Beauty. =)
It looks more like a hunting rifle. Because most sporters at that time had fancier stocks on it. Also the magazin is a hint that its not a Gun for Scheibenschiessen.
Late 20th century tacti-cool
I have something similar to that trigger system on my combination rifle, except you push the main trigger forward to to activate it.
Das ist ein sogenannter Französicher Stecher.
Does anyone know what types of 50 cal cartridges there were at the place and time just curious as to what they had
What sort of bolt face does it have? Can you get any idea what the parent cartridge would have been? I'm assuming some sort of black powder nitro round, or other African style cartridge?
What is the purpose of the spoon handle bolt action compared to a round head bolt action?
I think the rearsight is ajustible in both directions therefore the cross shape
Carl with C is still used in Germany. It is just not so common.
Old world craftsmanship... pretty crazy considering this was before the days of (semi)smokeless powder.
Ian mentioned that he didn't know the exact cartridge this uses, so a chamber cast to sort that out? I wonder if it was a custom cartridge as well as a custom gun?
toomanyaccounts , Just thinking about how difficult this would be to actually shoot.
I did spend a very brief time seeing if I could find out what-if any-commercial cartridges this might’ve been chambered in. Turned up quite a few American options but I don’t think any of those are likely. Searching 13mm wasn’t helpful but I didn’t have enough time to look further.
This rifle appeals to me (a bit odd cuz I’m left handed for long arms) and isn’t super expensive.
Did anyone else notice the "ramrod" under the barrel? What would be it's purpose? It seems to be constructed for loading at the muzzle as opposed to being a cleaning implement.
May have been used for getting duds out of the firing chamber, but then I'm not a gun owner so a wild guess.
What is the rod under the barrel for ?
Primarily used for cleaning the rifle (black powder fouling) and could be used to knock out a stuck cartridge case.
Thanks for answer
The 1871 Mauser (11mm Mauser) fired a 370 grain bullet at 1430 fps. 11mm gras
Sorry if I'm just being ignorant, but wouldn't a crowned V stand for Victoria, and thus a British proof mark? A VR monogram seems to be more common. If it is a British mark it may point to the cartridge the rifle was made for.
Thanks
There's a few European sporting and hunting rounds that it could be chambered for. One's a 12.7X60 straight walled cartidge made in 1877 by Mauser Source: www.cartridgecollector.net/123-x-40r-mb-target
Doesn’t the bolt collide with that aperture sight?
fab006 I think that's why it also have a leaf sight
It looks like it would. Probably you'd want to flip it up after you already have a round chambered, and then after firing, moving the bolt would just push it back down. In fact, I might guess the reasoning behind this is that if you needed to make a fast follow-up shot, you'd want the aperture sight out of the way so you could use the leaf sight for quicker target acquisition.
Fancy.
Fun fact: the Gewehr 71 was designed and produced in my hometown :)
Laangweilig!
Nice octagon barrel, does that make it more expensive?
I think an octagonal barrel was cheaper to make, less finishing work to make it round. There is a video on CZcams showing how a gunsmith was making a flintlock rifle from scratch with old hand tools. They made octagonal barrels and finished only the parts that weren't hidden by the stock.
LaterMeansBrick odd, you’re probably right. I just assume this because and octagon barrel increased the value of my dads lever action by 1,000$
In the old days, barrels started out as square stock. To make an octagonal barrel, the corners were milled off, but a round barrel required turning on a lathe (a more expensive process). An octagonal barrel was also heavier, which would help accuracy for a sporting rifle like this, but most people would prefer the lighter weight of a round barrel.
As for why your dad's levergun is more valuable with the octagonal barrel, it could be that far fewer of them were made with octagonal barrels.
Nifty
So what you're saying is, this is a Gebert Gewehr.
When a Hunting rifle is more advanced than military firearms:
Impetus? I didn't know Aristotle dealt in firearms
What a wonderful and robust rifle, though it's appearance is almost of something too fine to shoot.
They sole my rem 700 box mag.
Famas part 2 video plz
Those GI's must have stripped Germany clean .
TUBULAR!
The T in Gebert is not silent
The magazine cutoff makes sense.
He’d be single-shooting it while hunting all day,
Buy if ever he was ambushed by 30-50 wild boars, he’d have that backup mag ;)
I would believe that it should go for more than 1200-1800 bucks
beautiful gun! but god do I hate double triggered rifles
I'm always rather confused why seemingly (judging by these videos) no one properly cleans up the rifles before putting them on sale. Wouldn't you hope to raise the price by making it as presentable as possible? If it's only holding together through a thin sheet of rust that's one thing but with most of them it looks like even an hour of work could make them a lot more presentable.
Interesting. I did kinda assume since guns are very much mechanical products you would at least bring it to a state where the mechanics work if you can do it without having to damage the materials. But I can see where it's coming form.
Many sword collectors also are opposed to fixing up blades but there you are usually talking about removing rust which inherently is removing metal from the blade. However when ever I see a gun that is simply filled with grease and dirt I'm kinda taken back.
But thanks for the explanation.
It looks like 5 round magazine not 3.
Weird. A high quality, custom, rifle from the 1880s brings a few grand at auction while cheap, simple, stamped out crap brings six digits because they were designed for a high volume of fire.
Carl Gewehr?
Ian, can you do a video on hair triggers?
Just go ad nauseum
Laird Cummings
May gun Jesus hear our prayers
Amen
I got a youtube add at the beginning of the video.
No actual bells and whistles... what is even point of this gun
Gee Carl, why does your mom let you have two triggers on your rifle?
Karl...what an odd spelling. I wonder if any people saddled with such a burdensome name are still running around.
my dad
19th century tacticool, just missing the lantern shade.
0/10 has no real bells or whistles.
haha its like a WWSD project of the early 1900s!
In german, you always stress the first sylable, so it's GEbert, not geBERT
How about "Gewehr" then? Don't oversimplify. Languages are more difficult than that
And lolz? to you, too. Cause it's not. Source: I'm a native. How about another example: Pistole
That chequering on the bolt looks totally out of place with the rest of the rifle. Everything else is well crafted - the chequering looks like amateur hour, particularly the centre where the lines are so closed up as to look like bad scratches, rather than deliberate chequering.