I respect you for being loyal to those that trust you with certain information, knowing that you’ll keep it quiet until they’re ready to reveal it. Others may not like it, because they like having stuff they think no one else does, so they can tell their friends, or whomever and look all “in-the-know. Keep doing what you’re doing, building your channel and protect those people that feel they can trust you. Trust is a hard thing to gain from some people and so easy to lose. So, keep up the good work! 👍🏻
And …Even bigger prices ! I stopped caring when they shutdown the Kansas City plant , produced that pos XG 500 and xg750 outsourced to India and they also killed the dyna so up yours HD ! 😮
Wouldn't that be nice... a reasonably tuned 96 (heck, I was happy with a mildly tweaked 80 for years and a gazillion miles). No matter, the MoCo needs to build something that average folks will buy so that I can buy it used in 8-10 years; assuming my 96 is worn out by then and I'm still riding in my 80s...🙃
My CVO prediction is a Lowrider ST. They seem to be very popular, and they're already a performance oriented bike. Slap the new 121 in it and throw a fancy paint scheme on it.
Yeah, maybe even have a radio system on it. I've never looked too closely at the front fairing on the ST to see if there's room for speakers, but I'm sure H-D could figure out a way to have speakers in the fairing and the bags.
Your channel, your rules and that's just the way it is. Keep making great videos, brotha. If they dont like it, then they don't need to watch. Great video as always!
The Road King is the Cadillac of Harley Davidson. You can’t change that bike that much and still maintain loyalty. The only change they should be making is bringing back the Road King Standard with a 114 imo. If any bike deserves a 114, it’s the Road King.
@@BadBlue32 I mostly agree, but think they are missing an opportunity to make money by not at least offering the fairing as an accessory. I've been considering it ever since I got my RK last year, but I'm too torn between the classic RK look and the ST look to drop that money and then possibly regret it.
My prediction would be a CVO heritage, based on how the fatboy had a redesign and it became an evolution of the model. A CVO heritage would appeal to many that are in between the softails and touring....possible gps and infotainment onto a softail would be epic for most looking for a lighter bike, great touring capability and extra features currently that are not available. This would also bring the nostalgia game back up in popularity.
Awe that would be awesome. Could see a CVO Heritage with an infotainment screen and itd breathe life into a very beloved model in HD’s line up. I like this suggestion.
Have you been to a dealer lately? 2024 Standard Road Glides and Street Glides are already in dealers showrooms and they are 107s. The RG and GS Specials are also in the showroom right now and they are 114s.
@@robinschulz9938 that bike is too new. I don’t think he was referring to something new. I think he was referring to something older that hadn’t been a CVO in a while. But that wouldn’t be a bad CVO.
Another thing I heard is the pan America has a totally new electrical system/wiring system. It sounded reasonable to me and could be at the heart of a lot of the bike issues… Oversensitive systems. Any info on that… Confirmation would be helpful
A lot of older riders are buying the low rider ST because it’s a lighter bike rather than the road glide ST. It would be a smart profit move to do a CVO Lowrider since they’re target audience has the coin.
Thanks again for the great info on the next year for the Motor Company. I look forward to seeing where you head next year on all the adventures and content that you put out. Cheers brother.
"whip cream on horse shit" is epitomized with the "bagger race series." Folks like it and keep throwing 10's of thousands at their softails and baggers to make them go faster. while the Motor Company has two platforms that have the aptitude to go fast, stop fast and turn left and right. The economy of performance isn't a practical/logical choice, but an emotional one, period. Thank you for sharing, Ride Free
Low rider st has been a Huge seller, to me it makes sense for them to do an ST cvo. Especially since I know quite a few older guys who have traded in touring bikes for the ST
Just looked at the 2024 Heritage on the Harley Web-site. It says 7 colors available, but when you look at the Bike it only lists 5. Wonder if there is going to be a special model this year? CVO possibly?
Thanks for the vid Blair. BTW, I removed my derby cover and cam cover showing the size of my engine on my 23 RGST stage 2 dyno’d putting out 120 hp and 120 ft lbs of torque. It does seem like there’s a trend of “mine is bigger than yours” out there with the numbers on each side of the bike. I decided I didn’t need to advertise my size(not that there’s anything wrong with that). My personalized license plate on the bike is “SLEPER”.
I know what I'd like to see as an older rider...a 2024 CVO Road Glide Trike! I'm having to leave the 'two wheeled' world as my confidence and balance wane, but I have a hard time getting excited about the Tri-Glide and I'm not interested in the Road Glide 3. If there was a CVO RG Trike, I would probably get one...but I'm not holding my breath.
I actually read some where that its going to be a street bob--can't wait b/c I'm old school and hate all this blacked out crap, would love to see a chromed version of the street bob.
It's all about the numbers... bring it on guys. Would love to see 2.4 liter (146 ci) motor... high torque made to remove the rubber off the rear tire in a single twist.
Dude i got a 23 rg standard 107 and honestly i love the 107 . I know they had problems years ago but from what ive found they got it lined out . I went from 883 to roadking with an 88 to a 107 and pleased with it
Indian Challengers have 108 water cooled. Indian Roadmaster have 116 air cooled. Both offer less places to leak oil from than any Harley. I know I own a Harley.
I want the old CEO back. There were such exciting designs coming out when he was there. About the only thing that could get me to trade in my road king would be a cvo road king. The only thing that would make me buy a second Harley would be if they put out a sport bike.
I predict there will be a softail CVO, because the FXST debuted as a 1984 model, which will be 40 years in 2024. The Heritage is the oldest softail, so I'd bet on that one.
No RG in 2014 and the RG3/tri-glides have been showing up with the same old fairings. So I believe one more year with the Rushmore fairings will be 2025 for the change. Harley knows they screwed up this past year with the cvo coming in both fairings.
They would have shown off stuff for the 120th, Why hold back for the 2024 year? Not sure why they would get rid of all the standards, especially now that they are pushing the Accessory Packages. As long as they can get parts to the dealers that is. Rev Max in a performance bagger?
so what's the difference between a Standard and Special on the touring models? They've axed almost all the standard models from the softail line already since they were so close in price to their special counterparts there wasn't much of a take rate.
i know that harley davidson has patents on supercharged engines. most likely to do with emissions but hey, its factory boosted. you could definitely squeeze more power out of a M8 with minor mods and a tune with boost in the recipe.
I hope they don't do a XR1250 or any sort of rev max powered hi po bike. that rev max is THE absolute worst soundin internal combustion engine ever to be made.
Oh man I’m glad I got my 2023 FLTRX I love the current fairing Just sayin I do like how bars aren’t really needed on the new style. They look good stock
PanAm CVO would be my first guess, Sportster S CVO would be my second guess. As for the performance comment, I think the Bronx may finally come along. Or a RG model will come with a track pack.
Pan America community bros have mentioned a CVO model Pan Am. A follower commented on one of my videos his dealer let it slip the MoCo had one planned. What it would look like IDK, the Pan Am Special already has everything so besides paint, I'm going to guess a CVO version means a bigger RevMax engine in the 1500cc-1600cc range.
Haven't seen a CVO Road King since I think 2014 so 10 years on, CVO Road King is my guess but a CVO Pan America with a 1300cc motor would be really left field and set the seen foe HD to move to a 1300cc motor in 2025 to match the 2024 GS.
I have a CVO 110 now actual a Softail . I am not big on power . I know allot of riders like that but I am not one that is really big on power. I am planning on trading in for a Street Glide this year actaully the Street Glide St is really growning on me and it does come with bigger motor . I am cool with that . I got the power when I need it .
I just bought a 2023 road glide st for 8k off msrp, and if the brand new road glide has the new cvo fairing I'd be both really happy and kinda sad. Happy that I got the last year with the current fairing, but kinda sad that I'm missing out on the new cool one
@maxxbenzz7842 windy city Harley dealer network. The one I got was the Milwaukee dealer, and they had 2 other STs at that specific dealer. The network has a bunch of dealers though
Just when I was ready to purchase a Roadking Standard HD discontinued it. If they bring it back I’ll buy one other than that HD has lost my business. Not all of us are speed demons.
@@BlinkingKillswitchthe Heritage is a great bike, and great looking. But, it's not a Road King and us RK guys would feel like we were just settling for second best.
I think the Dirt Glide will get a CVO model. Now speaking of displacement. Indian with their 108 @ 122 hp is a liquid cooled engine and easier to get HP than an air-cooled mill. The lifespan will be longer with a water cooled bike. More power is always good but at what cost? reliability, lifespan? I'm happy with my 103 twin cam in my RK. pulls well and just seems happy to run at 80 mph all day long. If I need more of a thrill, get on my 1250 GSA. This bike reall does everything well, but my Harley makes me smile when I ride it. More displacement isn't always better IMO
Im hoping chrome makes a huge comeback. I want a chrome lowrider, chrome RKS, bring back the super glide or wide glide, or fix the street bob and standard, no reason in hell those bikes cant have a 5 gal tank
Balzy if HD comes out with a true race bike. Would like to see the 131/135 with the VVT and strip down/built up for racing.… Price it with the CVO‘s and then the differentiator is the CVO can always upgrade to the bigger engine but if you want all the trimmings you gotta go with the CVO and the CVO isn’t really built for racing in the first place. Look they’ve got the new RAV max/pan America up significantly higher and they could bring a mono shock race bike… If they’re gonna do a race bike they better have a better rake/trail than the Roguelike currently has
I'm gonna predict a price increase! 😅
While the surcharge goes away
80$ bandanas
Black is a now a extra cost color
Primer grey is free
😂👍🏾
@@geraldgoodiii6993true story😂
I respect you for being loyal to those that trust you with certain information, knowing that you’ll keep it quiet until they’re ready to reveal it. Others may not like it, because they like having stuff they think no one else does, so they can tell their friends, or whomever and look all “in-the-know.
Keep doing what you’re doing, building your channel and protect those people that feel they can trust you. Trust is a hard thing to gain from some people and so easy to lose.
So, keep up the good work! 👍🏻
Larry Wilson said it batter than I could😎
They already delivered the 2024 softail standards to the dealerships. (With the 107)
And that awful Gray colour.
CVO low rider. The power to weight ratio on that would be insane
My guess is the Lowrider ST. We think alike
CVO Low Rider ST coming in hot!
True
And …Even bigger prices ! I stopped caring when they shutdown the Kansas City plant , produced that pos XG 500 and xg750 outsourced to India and they also killed the dyna so up yours HD ! 😮
CVO t-shirt. MSRP is 450.00.
I wish HD would build good honest bikes with modest power that working people can afford!
Wouldn't that be nice... a reasonably tuned 96 (heck, I was happy with a mildly tweaked 80 for years and a gazillion miles). No matter, the MoCo needs to build something that average folks will buy so that I can buy it used in 8-10 years; assuming my 96 is worn out by then and I'm still riding in my 80s...🙃
Reckon they don't want them customers. Big dollar bikes but lucky there's an ocean of used bikes.
@dcstrng1 agree, don't get this obsession with bigger and bigger motors. Simple, modest power and good looks is what most folks want I suspect.
Nightster and Softail standard are that.
Used ones maybe. Happy holidays.@@usmcvet0313
CVO Pan America…. Or a Pan America ST!? That would be pretty cool tbh
This is what I’m thinking/ it lacks a lot of the bells and whistles that come standard on competitors bikes!
My CVO prediction is a Lowrider ST. They seem to be very popular, and they're already a performance oriented bike. Slap the new 121 in it and throw a fancy paint scheme on it.
This is what I was thinking as well, giving it a higher tier option.
Yeah, maybe even have a radio system on it. I've never looked too closely at the front fairing on the ST to see if there's room for speakers, but I'm sure H-D could figure out a way to have speakers in the fairing and the bags.
They sell a drop in front fairing kit from Rockford fosgate, you just got push two pins then it’s plug and play
@@HDFXSB645they make a Rockford Fosgate drop in for $1000 from Harley
I’d be about that
They'd better think price drop
They’ve already gotten rid of the surcharge.
I respect that you respect the relationships you have with the dealerships. Shows integrity and loyalty. Always enjoy the videos bro ✊️
That's the goal. Appreciate the support my man! 👊🏼
Your channel, your rules and that's just the way it is. Keep making great videos, brotha. If they dont like it, then they don't need to watch. Great video as always!
I wish they would make a roadking ST with the low rider s style relocated gauge and and standard bags 🙋🏽♂️
The Road King is the Cadillac of Harley Davidson. You can’t change that bike that much and still maintain loyalty. The only change they should be making is bringing back the Road King Standard with a 114 imo. If any bike deserves a 114, it’s the Road King.
@@BadBlue32Amen.
@@BadBlue32 I mostly agree, but think they are missing an opportunity to make money by not at least offering the fairing as an accessory. I've been considering it ever since I got my RK last year, but I'm too torn between the classic RK look and the ST look to drop that money and then possibly regret it.
Hear about the new colors? Recall Red, Golf-pro Gold, Bankruptcy Blue, and Union-buster Brown. RIP HD Inc, 1903-1999
Pan America CVO! All the bags, quick shifter, exhaust, and special paint--my guess.
My prediction would be a CVO heritage, based on how the fatboy had a redesign and it became an evolution of the model. A CVO heritage would appeal to many that are in between the softails and touring....possible gps and infotainment onto a softail would be epic for most looking for a lighter bike, great touring capability and extra features currently that are not available. This would also bring the nostalgia game back up in popularity.
Awe that would be awesome. Could see a CVO Heritage with an infotainment screen and itd breathe life into a very beloved model in HD’s line up. I like this suggestion.
No more Road King standard? 😭😭😭😭
A CVO Street Bob hopefully. 🤞
It's Low Rider ST
What I would LOVE would be a Heritage CVO, but probably will be the Low Rider S/ST CVO
That's my guess, too.
Have you been to a dealer lately? 2024 Standard Road Glides and Street Glides are already in dealers showrooms and they are 107s. The RG and GS Specials are also in the showroom right now and they are 114s.
Idk if its true that they are shipped already but no fairing upgrades in 2024
I am going to go with the possibility of a CVO fat boy
CvO low rider ST
@@robinschulz9938 that bike is too new. I don’t think he was referring to something new. I think he was referring to something older that hadn’t been a CVO in a while. But that wouldn’t be a bad CVO.
Another thing I heard is the pan America has a totally new electrical system/wiring system. It sounded reasonable to me and could be at the heart of a lot of the bike issues… Oversensitive systems. Any info on that… Confirmation would be helpful
Low Rider ST CVO already leaked.
Going to predict I never regret going ahead and getting a 23 billiard blue RKS
A lot of older riders are buying the low rider ST because it’s a lighter bike rather than the road glide ST. It would be a smart profit move to do a CVO Lowrider since they’re target audience has the coin.
I think the cvo will be a softail, low rider st or heritage.
I hope it's the Roadking back as a cvo performance bagger, but probably more likely a cvo lowrider st?
Blaze did say a model we didnt expect. The ST would be too obvious. I’m kinda hoping a Heritage. Thatd be good to see.
Thanks again for the great info on the next year for the Motor Company. I look forward to seeing where you head next year on all the adventures and content that you put out. Cheers brother.
Probably a CVO Sportster S, moco trying to bring some extra attention to the model, since the metric Sportsters aren't selling very well.😁
"whip cream on horse shit" is epitomized with the "bagger race series." Folks like it and keep throwing 10's of thousands at their softails and baggers to make them go faster. while the Motor Company has two platforms that have the aptitude to go fast, stop fast and turn left and right. The economy of performance isn't a practical/logical choice, but an emotional one, period. Thank you for sharing, Ride Free
Low rider st has been a Huge seller, to me it makes sense for them to do an ST cvo. Especially since I know quite a few older guys who have traded in touring bikes for the ST
I agree.
Yes it's confirmed
Just looked at the 2024 Heritage on the Harley Web-site. It says 7 colors available, but when you look at the Bike it only lists 5. Wonder if there is going to be a special model this year? CVO possibly?
Something needs to compete with this new Buell Supercruiser. Cant wait to see what comes out!
The PA does so very nicely.
Road Glide and Street Glide CVO ST....maybe
Rev max in a cruiser...you can fight...but resistance is futile.
Looking forward to the content in 2024!
I doubt anything trickles down this year
Thanks for the vid Blair. BTW, I removed my derby cover and cam cover showing the size of my engine on my 23 RGST stage 2 dyno’d putting out 120 hp and 120 ft lbs of torque. It does seem like there’s a trend of “mine is bigger than yours” out there with the numbers on each side of the bike. I decided I didn’t need to advertise my size(not that there’s anything wrong with that). My personalized license plate on the bike is “SLEPER”.
I know what I'd like to see as an older rider...a 2024 CVO Road Glide Trike! I'm having to leave the 'two wheeled' world as my confidence and balance wane, but I have a hard time getting excited about the Tri-Glide and I'm not interested in the Road Glide 3. If there was a CVO RG Trike, I would probably get one...but I'm not holding my breath.
CVO Street Bob would be cool.
I actually read some where that its going to be a street bob--can't wait b/c I'm old school and hate all this blacked out crap, would love to see a chromed version of the street bob.
That would be awesome!
114 sport glide please
It's all about the numbers... bring it on guys. Would love to see 2.4 liter (146 ci) motor... high torque made to remove the rubber off the rear tire in a single twist.
Dude i got a 23 rg standard 107 and honestly i love the 107 . I know they had problems years ago but from what ive found they got it lined out . I went from 883 to roadking with an 88 to a 107 and pleased with it
A low rider st cvo would be sweet
Appreciate all the content my man! Keep ‘em coming! 😎🤙
Indian Challengers have 108 water cooled. Indian Roadmaster have 116 air cooled. Both offer less places to leak oil from than any Harley. I know I own a Harley.
I want the old CEO back. There were such exciting designs coming out when he was there. About the only thing that could get me to trade in my road king would be a cvo road king. The only thing that would make me buy a second Harley would be if they put out a sport bike.
Hmmm Pan Am CVO???
I’ve been saying, they need to come out with a king of the bagger model.
I miss them, not going all out on CVO’s like in the past with painted frames.
Indian is only doing the powerplus 108 in the challenger and pursuit models, the rest of the big bikes will get the thunderstroke 116
merry christmas
When are we going to see something on the 121. I've heard that it has VVT. Is that true? And if so what are the power numbers?
My 121 got on the dyno today. Don't have the results yet.
Want to see the new Sporter, S 1250
Your reviews are the best, keep on keeping on!
Its a big no on a Roadglide fairing this yesr.
Last year was the 120th anniversary, which always causes more discussions
I predict there will be a softail CVO, because the FXST debuted as a 1984 model, which will be 40 years in 2024. The Heritage is the oldest softail, so I'd bet on that one.
My prediction is the new Sportster.
Indian Challengers are 108 and water cooled, the Chieftains are 116
Road Glide/Street Glide CVO ST with a high output 121.
No RG in 2014 and the RG3/tri-glides have been showing up with the same old fairings. So I believe one more year with the Rushmore fairings will be 2025 for the change. Harley knows they screwed up this past year with the cvo coming in both fairings.
This is true
They would have shown off stuff for the 120th, Why hold back for the 2024 year? Not sure why they would get rid of all the standards, especially now that they are pushing the Accessory Packages. As long as they can get parts to the dealers that is. Rev Max in a performance bagger?
I agree - Rev Max in a bagger.....
Hope it’s a Road King CVO I’ve been waiting on that one to release since 2014…
I bet on that as well
that would be killer but he did say it hasnt been a CVO before, so that leads me to believe it will be a low rider ST.
@@ek5150 I still get over we don't have RK standard from last year this is just such a miss with what people want
Cvo is low rider st
When I think of the massively heavy duty, powerful and useful tractor I could purchase for the cost of a Harley the answer is clear.
so what's the difference between a Standard and Special on the touring models? They've axed almost all the standard models from the softail line already since they were so close in price to their special counterparts there wasn't much of a take rate.
i know that harley davidson has patents on supercharged engines. most likely to do with emissions but hey, its factory boosted. you could definitely squeeze more power out of a M8 with minor mods and a tune with boost in the recipe.
A CVO that is all performance not touring, meaning engine, suspension, brakes, and all high performance parts.
We might see more VVT to tackle consumption and emissions and within EU rules
They've barely released the 23s
Rumours have begun, not began.
Shame on me. Send me your perfect videos and that I may study from a true master. Thanks in advance.
I hope they don't do a XR1250 or any sort of rev max powered hi po bike. that rev max is THE absolute worst soundin internal combustion engine ever to be made.
Oh man I’m glad I got my 2023 FLTRX
I love the current fairing
Just sayin
I do like how bars aren’t really needed on the new style. They look good stock
PanAm CVO would be my first guess, Sportster S CVO would be my second guess.
As for the performance comment, I think the Bronx may finally come along. Or a RG model will come with a track pack.
Good to see you again and i love the retro sweat shirt
My guess…. Maybe a performance based RG/SG CVO? Like a hybrid CVO ST? Who knows…just hope it’s cool!
2024 Heritage CVO
saw they are shipping trigides already, also 2 colors gray or black. soft tail is still in the line up
Pan America community bros have mentioned a CVO model Pan Am. A follower commented on one of my videos his dealer let it slip the MoCo had one planned. What it would look like IDK, the Pan Am Special already has everything so besides paint, I'm going to guess a CVO version means a bigger RevMax engine in the 1500cc-1600cc range.
Haven't seen a CVO Road King since I think 2014 so 10 years on, CVO Road King is my guess but a CVO Pan America with a 1300cc motor would be really left field and set the seen foe HD to move to a 1300cc motor in 2025 to match the 2024 GS.
I do miss the side by side bike comparisons
How about a CVO Pam America?
I have a CVO 110 now actual a Softail . I am not big on power . I know allot of riders like that but I am not one that is really big on power. I am planning on trading in for a Street Glide this year actaully the Street Glide St is really growning on me and it does come with bigger motor . I am cool with that . I got the power when I need it .
Wide Glide!! 🔥
I just bought a 2023 road glide st for 8k off msrp, and if the brand new road glide has the new cvo fairing I'd be both really happy and kinda sad.
Happy that I got the last year with the current fairing, but kinda sad that I'm missing out on the new cool one
Don't worry no fairing upgrades
Where did you get it? Pretty great deal😮
@maxxbenzz7842 windy city Harley dealer network. The one I got was the Milwaukee dealer, and they had 2 other STs at that specific dealer.
The network has a bunch of dealers though
@@CorridorCulprit yeah I suppose now is a great time to jump on deals. Thnx👍
$8000 off of MSRP? Brand new ST for $22,000? I feel like that's a bit of a stretch.....
Are we getting a Pan America CVO with trick parts and performance bagger with really trick parts 😊
What dealerships do you deal with?????
A CVO Softail standard 🙂
They could ditch the softail standard name and call a black and chrome street bob CLASSIC.
Just when I was ready to purchase a Roadking Standard HD discontinued it. If they bring it back I’ll buy one other than that HD has lost my business. Not all of us are speed demons.
Never looked at the Heritage?
@@BlinkingKillswitchthe Heritage is a great bike, and great looking. But, it's not a Road King and us RK guys would feel like we were just settling for second best.
@@thejerseyj5479 Fair enough
@@thejerseyj5479 Agreed. I like the Heritage, but it is no Road King.
CVO Lowrider.
121 VVT Would rip in Softail frame
Something you don't think of... CVO Heritage? Maybe? Definitely out of nowhere.
Lowrider ST CVO with 121 and ride modes and the sportster s gauge. Ultimate in mini bagger class
According to Laidlaw, they have rolled the surcharge into the MSRP.
Word on the Streetz is there will be a Hayabusa engine in a sportster
The pan am motor or similar in a touring bike. - water cooled
I think the Dirt Glide will get a CVO model. Now speaking of displacement. Indian with their 108 @ 122 hp is a liquid cooled engine and easier to get HP than an air-cooled mill.
The lifespan will be longer with a water cooled bike. More power is always good but at what cost? reliability, lifespan?
I'm happy with my 103 twin cam in my RK. pulls well and just seems happy to run at 80 mph all day long. If I need more of a thrill, get on my 1250 GSA. This bike reall does everything well, but my Harley makes me smile when I ride it. More displacement isn't always better IMO
Im hoping chrome makes a huge comeback. I want a chrome lowrider, chrome RKS, bring back the super glide or wide glide, or fix the street bob and standard, no reason in hell those bikes cant have a 5 gal tank
CVO electric live wire. You’ll probably be the first one to get one.
I’ve seen a Prototype smaller Pan American maybe a 975 ?
Probably a CVO trike but I can dream they bring back the Night Train and make it a CVO or a Road King Special CVO.😅
Balzy if HD comes out with a true race bike. Would like to see the 131/135 with the VVT and strip down/built up for racing.… Price it with the CVO‘s and then the differentiator is the CVO can always upgrade to the bigger engine but if you want all the trimmings you gotta go with the CVO and the CVO isn’t really built for racing in the first place. Look they’ve got the new RAV max/pan America up significantly higher and they could bring a mono shock race bike… If they’re gonna do a race bike they better have a better rake/trail than the Roguelike currently has