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  • čas přidán 19. 03. 2018
  • Puremix Mentor Chris Lord Alge explains why there is no reverb on a direct drum mic. CLA discusses using aux sends to add to ambient drums tracks only.
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Komentáře • 78

  • @twilightbiscuit
    @twilightbiscuit Před 6 lety +29

    he is so damn good...

  • @alekp6822
    @alekp6822 Před 6 lety +36

    When CLA is upset he gives away his tricks;otherwise he can talk for hours and tell nothing lol gotta love guy

  • @rockboy360
    @rockboy360 Před 5 lety +18

    This approach is pretty interesting cuz it gives you cleaner and more natural sounding results, putting reverb on the direct snare mic usually affects the bleed too (even when gated), which gives you a mushier sound, whenever I want some direct sounding reverb I put it on a sample 100% wet, not replacing, not even reinforcing the direct signal, it's just for reverb, then I hipass and lowpass the processed signal, and blend it to taste.
    This sounds pristine as long as you have the right sample that matches your snare, make sure to tune it to the exact same pitch too and sounds even better.
    Andy Wallace is very well known for this technique too.

  • @BlackenedNL
    @BlackenedNL Před 6 lety +4

    I really look up to CLA, I think I have seen every possible mix video from him and learned so much from them

  • @mikeweiser2210
    @mikeweiser2210 Před 4 lety +26

    Less than twenty five seconds in and he’s already condescending

    • @macreviewz7187
      @macreviewz7187 Před 3 lety +1

      Sounds about right. The Chris we all love and came here to see be Chris

    • @playmode3976
      @playmode3976 Před 3 lety +2

      He basically hates pluging yet he promotes and creates them...........

    • @happiness1772
      @happiness1772 Před 3 lety +6

      @@playmode3976 He likes money more than he hates plug-ins.

    • @peterwierenga3182
      @peterwierenga3182 Před 2 lety

      Hahaha

  • @RobertVandenberg
    @RobertVandenberg Před 2 lety +1

    I learn a lot from this video although I’m not a rock guy. I don’t have room mics but I put a little reverb in overhead and the result is pretty good.

  • @weses2
    @weses2 Před 6 lety +2

    Love that Daughtry album and love CLA! Thank you for making this

  • @spaceorbison
    @spaceorbison Před 6 lety +7

    im all about dat cathedral reverb

  • @hbrookes
    @hbrookes Před 6 lety +3

    so lucky someone didn't have to teach you...You already knew it all!

  • @weedywet
    @weedywet Před 6 lety +28

    in what way are tom mics and snare bottom mics not "direct signals"?

    • @javierperea8954
      @javierperea8954 Před 6 lety +4

      weedywet The room mics are not inches from the drum head. In other words, not from the close mics.

    • @weedywet
      @weedywet Před 6 lety +12

      yes, agreed. But he ALSO says tom mics and under snare mic; presumably those ARE "inches from the drum head". I didn't question the room mics.

    • @javierperea8954
      @javierperea8954 Před 6 lety

      weedywet I thought he said not to put reverb on those. It takes skill to bring out the snare and Tom strike frequencies, I think reverb would change the way You set the compressors to sound with snare and Tom's

    • @weedywet
      @weedywet Před 6 lety +15

      No, he says very clearly at :30 - :45 seconds that he puts reverb on the snare bottom and the toms.... good to hear it "takes skill". I shall bear that in mind in future.

    • @javierperea8954
      @javierperea8954 Před 6 lety +1

      weedywet I didn't mean to sound Pretentious. Maybe the way he brings out the strike is with reverb. At the end of the day regardless of how you do it if it sounds good in the mix it is good.

  • @robd7455
    @robd7455 Před 3 lety +1

    THANK YOU !!!!!! Been rackiń my head on how to get/add reverb to my drum tracks.. AND make it sit/sound right. I use a Tascam dp 24. ...Mic’s... etc..
    no pc... long story short.. never thought of adding reverb to just the room mic... hope you don’t mind, but I’m stealing your technique ... lol. Again.. THANK YOU

  • @mitekillem
    @mitekillem Před 6 lety +6

    That's actually something I've not thought of before. The room & oh mics already have a bit of reverb in them.
    -Though, this technique seems cleaner as you're just adding more depth and space to what's already supposed to have it.

    • @manfredpseudowengorz
      @manfredpseudowengorz Před 5 lety

      also the room mics don't catch that much of the dynamics, and record with a natural predelay depending on their distance from the drumset.

  • @neovxr
    @neovxr Před 6 lety +2

    this was important to mention. but it depends.
    I just did that! definitely wanted an 80ies reverb sound, and pink floyd in pompeji tom-toms hahaha.. :)
    has kick & snare bus, and all that gate-rev on that one. :p
    worked great.

  • @peterwierenga3182
    @peterwierenga3182 Před 2 lety +1

    The snark on him is incredible

  • @SkyFelixMusic
    @SkyFelixMusic Před 6 lety +32

    You can tell he HATES giving away even close examples of what he actually does in his mixes.

    • @dcdno_one2393
      @dcdno_one2393 Před 2 lety +3

      I don't know. I don't think he's worried about anyone taking his mixing gigs.

  • @michen667
    @michen667 Před 3 lety +1

    Makes no sends: His signature plugins do allow verb on direct signals. Love these by the way.

  • @quadraticstudios9113
    @quadraticstudios9113 Před 5 lety +23

    "I had sends before you had sends" Totally reminded me of Trump XD.

  • @Skkyyyyyyyyyyy
    @Skkyyyyyyyyyyy Před 3 lety +3

    Some of you say “ I wanna put a reverb on a direct snare drum” well.... enjoy yourself.

  • @LaminarSound
    @LaminarSound Před 5 lety

    Ive often wondered about what he means in this video about NOT putting verb on close mics. From other videos ive seen im pretty sure what he does most often is blends the recorded snare with a sample, then sends the sample to a verb. Not the recorded snare. You can hear this on Survival by Muse. You hear the snare verb increase in certain sections and at the same time you hear an obviously a brighter snare layered in. And it sounds like that brighter snare is whats hitting the verb.

    • @boxculture
      @boxculture Před rokem

      1:10. He says it here. He puts it on the samples 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @acuralee
    @acuralee Před 5 lety +1

    When I read people leave negative comments on drum sets stating "too much reverb" what do they mean? That it echoes or something? I'm not really familiar with reverb being a negative thing on a drum set....

    • @lkb3rd
      @lkb3rd Před 5 lety +1

      It can sound unnatural and overwhelming if there is too much reverb, which is emulating the sound of being in a room. Reverb is similar to echoes, but instead of repeat...peat....peat..... it just makes the sound sort of carry on without specific repeats. "Reverberation"

  • @DanDuskin
    @DanDuskin Před 6 lety +1

    Go Chris!

  • @viol8rmusic
    @viol8rmusic Před 3 lety +1

    Light bulb... when adding reverb to the room mics you don't need to add a predelay parameter. Because they're already delayed by the time it takes to hit the mics.

  • @crestiferj2689
    @crestiferj2689 Před 6 lety +6

    " never put reverb on the direct drum mics except for the toms and bottom snare" -cla

  • @astargmoneynevaendz999

    Getting to this entertainment industry family movie money bag

  • @Cola.Cube.
    @Cola.Cube. Před rokem

    infinite delay and reverb on sub bass is deffo adviseable. lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

  • @nakermanca2056
    @nakermanca2056 Před 5 lety +2

    I bet that this drumtrack is made with Steven Slate Drums.

  • @LDdrums20
    @LDdrums20 Před 3 lety +1

    Soy yo o CLA cada vez se parece mas al chavo?

  • @kylegushue
    @kylegushue Před 6 lety

    My Samplitude Pro X3 Eq116 cant be found in Pro Tools. That's My Sound...

  • @jesse_cole
    @jesse_cole Před rokem +2

    Until he wanted to sell his new reverb plugin and started slathering whole kits in four separate reverbs...

  • @FranciscoMarafioti
    @FranciscoMarafioti Před 5 lety

    ¨Apple´s or Orange´s¨

  • @Solarflare87
    @Solarflare87 Před 6 lety

    Good God the gate....

  • @kylegushue
    @kylegushue Před 6 lety

    Can i call an SPX 90 My sound?. Yes. SPX 90's are also my sound.

  • @iscanaanacsi6435
    @iscanaanacsi6435 Před 2 lety

    Spanish please

  • @jfredknobloch
    @jfredknobloch Před 5 lety +1

    I suggest that this is a whole lot of nothing.

  • @victorbarnes6898
    @victorbarnes6898 Před 5 lety

    The drums in the mix sounded flat and ice picky. CLA mixes out of the box which should help with this but something is happening that time smears the sound in an unpleasant way. Perhaps he's using in the box plugs with out of the box effects and the pro-tools delay compensation isn't set right or can't deal with his setup. Whatever it is, I wouldn't pay for that mix. It sounds flat.

    • @sergeipatrakov
      @sergeipatrakov Před 5 lety

      Victor, would you please give an example of mix(es) that is/are not flat in your vision? Just want to know the difference. Thank you.

    • @victorbarnes6898
      @victorbarnes6898 Před 5 lety

      @@sergeipatrakov It's not my personal "vision". The mix sounds flat. Period.

    • @sergeipatrakov
      @sergeipatrakov Před 5 lety +1

      @@victorbarnes6898 "Would you please give an example of mix you like."

    • @sergeipatrakov
      @sergeipatrakov Před 5 lety

      @@victorbarnes6898 Just name the song that sounds pretty good for you.

    • @victorbarnes6898
      @victorbarnes6898 Před 5 lety

      @@sergeipatrakov Higher Love, Steve Winwood.

  • @markmcclellan8421
    @markmcclellan8421 Před 5 lety +1

    If you want to mix like CLA. .....God that is horrible music!