that probably happened, because when you switch the OEM filter to the K&N Filter, when you turn on the motorcycle for the first time, you need to let the ECU adjust automatically for 20m and can´t touch the throttle while waiting. That's what happens, when people install stuff without reading the instructions!
You probably too much into reading!!!. First thing, the so called ECU takes only a few seconds to adjust, not 20 minutes. Secondly, if you see the video, the bike wouldn’t start… so I am not interrupting the ‘adjusting ECU’ it is interrupting itself…. Infact I was trying to keep it up.
That unstable idling is due to the changes you have made. The ECU is recalibrating itself..it is advisable to keep your bike's engine on for atleast 10-15 minutes. This issue will resolve on its own.
@@shamikmazumder2333 Man… do you understand the sequence? The bike should be able to idle to keep it idling for 10 minutes. If the bike shuts down before that, how will it idle? Also, what you have learnt from watching YT that it needs idling, is also a myth…. But that’s another story.
Your bike has some issues it idles very well and clean will help you with my insights if you need. Definitely its not a inherent issue bike will stay in idle steadily.
Hey, thanks for offering help. I did few mods and post that, the idling is perfect, infact, it idles at 1.2 rpm now (something which I’ve not seen in many twins) real and smooth.
Yes, I’m using a 90W LED headlight, it’s on all the time but I don’t keep it the ignition ON for long unless the engine is running. As far as the Engine running and the light is on, won’t impact the battery.
Hi Ranjan, did you notice a drop in engine idle rpm after you installed the K&N.? Mine dropped off to around 1250rpm at idle, and the bike seems alot quicker now! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Good sounding ones bro I was looking to get the exhaust but not sure as am getting mixed reviews Recently after a water wash also my bike idling was not stable and 4 or 5 tries it became normal
Sound wise, I am currently riding it without baffles and I’ll give it 10/10 on just the exhaust note. Idling issue, I’ve faced just once, that’s in this video… after that I’ve ridden the bike almost daily (short) but never faced idling issue. I think the issue with this exhaust is the baffle, the backfire due to the baffle is not calibrated well and hence the idling issue…. Ride it without the baffles and I’m sure there won’t be any issues. Let me know I’ve water washed and didn’t find any issue, what was the feedback you got after wash?
@@RanjanSh thanks for the reply The bikes no issue as if now but i will be riding with the baffles mostly as there was cop's issue here What's your advice on getting this exhaust ?
Honestly, I don’t think it will be an issue with the cops without the baffles…. It’s not very loud unless u rev it beyond 3K. Opinion on the exhaust, I am not facing any issues personally but a guy told me these are no dyno tested and it fkd up his engine, had to get it redone with the RE ASC, he moved to red rooster (Apparently, that’s the only dyno tested exhausts in the market). I can give you the powerage manufacturer’s contact details if you want and check if it’s dyno tested. My experience with the exhaust is good… drop in low-end torque but increased the rev-band… giving a good high end torque. If there are any issues to the engine, only time will tell.
@@RanjanSh I'm an automobile enthusiast. That's how fuel injected engines work! The air filter is increasing airflow rate making the fuel mixture lean, you'll need a custom tune. If not you're engine will run hot. Heat generation and fuel mixture are inversely proportional! Leaner the mixture more the heat.
With your logic, if one removes the air filter, the engine will start running on air. That’s not true. Air filter is only filtering the air… that’s his job. He is not putting more air in the combustion chamber.
The fuel supply in case of FI is controlled through an electric brain, or ECU, which constantly makes complex calculations at a very high frequency to deliver the best air-fuel mixture possible. Based on a whole variety of parameters such as engine speed, throttle position, engine temperature and load etc the ECU directs the injectors to let in just the right amount of fuel with every intake stroke to facilitate the most efficient combustion. FYI
After installing my red rooster...i told him to idle the engine for 10 mins. He didn't listen he took the bike for a spin... And after a long ride when i come to a halt rpm just fluctuates like shit. Pleas help me out with this issue
Hi Ranjan, Thanks for the video. Did you felt the same issue later on. I mean Engine Killing Off automatically after that in future ? Even i am also planning to change the stock to Powerrage , hence asking
Nope, never. That was the only time the bike has malfunctioned (in the video) post this, never had any issue. Before moving to powerage, let me warn you, these exhausts are not dyno-tested and you will also lose some power. Although I love the exhaust.
@@RanjanSh The Motowing Trident is highly appreciated by its users to provide better throttle response and retain the engine Back pressure unlike straight pipes like Powerage, AEW etc. Even Trident doesnt allow baffle removal for optimum exhaust flow. you guys can watch their engineer's video explaining the process and its very promising on how the claimed 2 bhp gain is achieved. Also their exhausts are dyno tested.
Yes, trident exhausts are dyno tested and also authorized by RE. It’s build with collaboration, definitely they will give better results. However, I believe changing just exhausts provide any advantage on performance… it hasn’t been proven ever. The exhaust note that powerage provides, no other exhaust match that pleasing note (in my opinion). MW trident, is not also my liking.
Bike is running fine, no problem whatsoever and I am running them without the baffles…. If you are doing these mods for performance then you won’t notice any difference. I love the exhaust note though…
@@mohamed_aariz6315 well, this video was shot by GoPro hero 9 in 4K and I used 2 mics, first one is a cheap 300rupee one and the 2nd one is boyo which costed 1600. Both have no difference in sound whatsoever. I have some more videos on the channel, check them out. I’ve bought new sound equipment lately, so ginne make more videos soon.
An out of context question. Does your bike have that thud sound at the front when going over bumps or bad roads? Like metal on metal impact kind of sound..
@@RanjanSh no no.. Just going over small bumps on the road. Sounds like there's a loose piece of metal bouncing on impact. I felt/heard that sound on three interceptors not just mine. So i was just wondering if it's a general thing or if it's something to worry about.
Yes no harm in being sure. You can figure it out on yourself, just zero out where the sound is coming from….. or record a video and post it on Facebook interceptor page, you’ll get a solution.
I installed the slip-ons a day earlier and idled the bike for quite long. This day (2nd day) I added the air filter and the bike wouldn’t idle for me to allow that readjustment time. It would turn off before that.
You are partially correct. There is no loss in power, the power gets ‘displaced’. Means, the power delivery is different at a different time compared to stock.
Hi Ranjan I have the same exhausts as you powerage exhausts my issue is a bit different the exhaust on the right side where the saree guard is their is a vv slight air leakage at the exhaust clamp is this an issue to be worried about because I have showed it to mechanics and they said you don't need to worry the bike will be fine.
I put the replacement clamp over the exhaust and now majority of the leakage is gone it doesn't leak when the bike idles and also doesn't leak when I rev the bike but I'll have to double check once the bike cools but their is a gas leak at the bend pipe if I cover the exhaust should I still do something to block the leak(their is only one option that is m seal clear rtv) or do you think it's fine now
@@rohinkaushal1401 if the leak is at the bend pipe, header side then you should fix it… use Mseal or, get it welded. mSeal might not be able to withhold the heat.
I think you need to have let the motor completely warm up and cool down without touching the throttle so the EMU can remap the new airflow parameters the new air filter and exhaust will have given it. That's what I did with mine and I have had no issues.
Yes, you are right. I did this a day before… in my previous video when I installed both these products. Didn’t think the filter plate would matter much, but looks like it did. Actually, even to allow it to heat up, if you see in the video the bike was losing RPM and shutting down. Didn’t want to forcefully jee throttling.
@dhanush - it’s just a myth…. The exhausts do not create a vaccum - meaning, if air intake is low, just because the exhaust pipe is free flow, it will not tend to suck more air from the headers. So for performance upgrade, people change Air filters, free flow exhaust and ECU remap to inject more fuel for the extra air, that increases performance since combustion is increased. If you change air filter or just the exhaust, nothing is going to happen….
Nothing like that. Again, the air filter is not pumping any air, it’s just allowing more air (incase asked/sucked) the ECU is a smart one, it only asks for as much air enough for air/fuel mixture. Only if you do an ECU remap, and don’t change the air filter, the bike will run lean.
yes let it idle for at least 12 minutes without throttle so the ECU can remap
Agreed, but the bike wouldn’t stay ON for that long, it was shutting down on its own.
that probably happened, because when you switch the OEM filter to the K&N Filter, when you turn on the motorcycle for the first time, you need to let the ECU adjust automatically for 20m and can´t touch the throttle while waiting. That's what happens, when people install stuff without reading the instructions!
You probably too much into reading!!!.
First thing, the so called ECU takes only a few seconds to adjust, not 20 minutes.
Secondly, if you see the video, the bike wouldn’t start… so I am not interrupting the ‘adjusting ECU’ it is interrupting itself…. Infact I was trying to keep it up.
Indian weather and conditions don't support stage 2 filters. All that dust will damage the engine for sure in future.
That’s not true
That unstable idling is due to the changes you have made. The ECU is recalibrating itself..it is advisable to keep your bike's engine on for atleast 10-15 minutes. This issue will resolve on its own.
To let it idle, it needs to keep running right? Did you watch the video?
@@RanjanSh it should idle
@@shamikmazumder2333 Man… do you understand the sequence? The bike should be able to idle to keep it idling for 10 minutes. If the bike shuts down before that, how will it idle? Also, what you have learnt from watching YT that it needs idling, is also a myth…. But that’s another story.
Hi sir I have given my bike for service and after that I am facing this issue and they are not getting the solution for this what should I do
Your bike has some issues it idles very well and clean will help you with my insights if you need. Definitely its not a inherent issue bike will stay in idle steadily.
Hey, thanks for offering help. I did few mods and post that, the idling is perfect, infact, it idles at 1.2 rpm now (something which I’ve not seen in many twins) real and smooth.
I am not a pro and all but
I am guessing you are using led headlights
And it is on all the time
It might be effecting the battery
Yes, I’m using a 90W LED headlight, it’s on all the time but I don’t keep it the ignition ON for long unless the engine is running. As far as the Engine running and the light is on, won’t impact the battery.
Hi Ranjan, did you notice a drop in engine idle rpm after you installed the K&N.? Mine dropped off to around 1250rpm at idle, and the bike seems alot quicker now! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Nope, that didn’t happen to me
Good sounding ones bro
I was looking to get the exhaust but not sure as am getting mixed reviews
Recently after a water wash also my bike idling was not stable and 4 or 5 tries it became normal
Sound wise, I am currently riding it without baffles and I’ll give it 10/10 on just the exhaust note.
Idling issue, I’ve faced just once, that’s in this video… after that I’ve ridden the bike almost daily (short) but never faced idling issue.
I think the issue with this exhaust is the baffle, the backfire due to the baffle is not calibrated well and hence the idling issue…. Ride it without the baffles and I’m sure there won’t be any issues. Let me know
I’ve water washed and didn’t find any issue, what was the feedback you got after wash?
@@RanjanSh thanks for the reply
The bikes no issue as if now but i will be riding with the baffles mostly as there was cop's issue here
What's your advice on getting this exhaust ?
Honestly, I don’t think it will be an issue with the cops without the baffles…. It’s not very loud unless u rev it beyond 3K.
Opinion on the exhaust, I am not facing any issues personally but a guy told me these are no dyno tested and it fkd up his engine, had to get it redone with the RE ASC, he moved to red rooster (Apparently, that’s the only dyno tested exhausts in the market). I can give you the powerage manufacturer’s contact details if you want and check if it’s dyno tested.
My experience with the exhaust is good… drop in low-end torque but increased the rev-band… giving a good high end torque. If there are any issues to the engine, only time will tell.
@@RanjanSh checked and ordered
Thank you bro
Will ride soon together
@@RanjanSh Motowings Trident is dyno tested too.
the bike will be running very lean fuel mixture, you might need a fuel commander to not toast the exhaust valves and keep the motor cool.
Where did you get this information from?
@@RanjanSh I'm an automobile enthusiast. That's how fuel injected engines work! The air filter is increasing airflow rate making the fuel mixture lean, you'll need a custom tune. If not you're engine will run hot. Heat generation and fuel mixture are inversely proportional! Leaner the mixture more the heat.
Also get the the RR unit and battery checked prone to failure in the twins.
With your logic, if one removes the air filter, the engine will start running on air. That’s not true. Air filter is only filtering the air… that’s his job. He is not putting more air in the combustion chamber.
The fuel supply in case of FI is controlled through an electric brain, or ECU, which constantly makes complex calculations at a very high frequency to deliver the best air-fuel mixture possible. Based on a whole variety of parameters such as engine speed, throttle position, engine temperature and load etc the ECU directs the injectors to let in just the right amount of fuel with every intake stroke to facilitate the most efficient combustion.
FYI
After installing my red rooster...i told him to idle the engine for 10 mins. He didn't listen he took the bike for a spin... And after a long ride when i come to a halt rpm just fluctuates like shit. Pleas help me out with this issue
Switch back to stock exhaust temporarily and see if issue persists…. You don’t need to visit a mechanic, do it by yourself.
Is the problem solved ?
If yes, what is the procedure/fix?
Got fixed in the video itself
I am having exactly the same issue. I would like to know the procedure you followed to bring back the stable rpm.
How unstable is the rpm on your bike?
I have some other videos as well about the process of fixing the rpm
Should i go for this exhaust or not ?
I love it’s sound but don’t want any power drop
Go for exhausts that are dyno tested and proven.
Hi Ranjan,
Thanks for the video. Did you felt the same issue later on. I mean Engine Killing Off automatically after that in future ? Even i am also planning to change the stock to Powerrage , hence asking
Nope, never. That was the only time the bike has malfunctioned (in the video) post this, never had any issue. Before moving to powerage, let me warn you, these exhausts are not dyno-tested and you will also lose some power. Although I love the exhaust.
@@RanjanSh thanks man. But they said they are performance exhaust? And It will help in increasing the bhp by 2-3 figures, right?
None of the exhaust increase performance.
@@RanjanSh The Motowing Trident is highly appreciated by its users to provide better throttle response and retain the engine Back pressure unlike straight pipes like Powerage, AEW etc. Even Trident doesnt allow baffle removal for optimum exhaust flow. you guys can watch their engineer's video explaining the process and its very promising on how the claimed 2 bhp gain is achieved. Also their exhausts are dyno tested.
Yes, trident exhausts are dyno tested and also authorized by RE. It’s build with collaboration, definitely they will give better results. However, I believe changing just exhausts provide any advantage on performance… it hasn’t been proven ever.
The exhaust note that powerage provides, no other exhaust match that pleasing note (in my opinion). MW trident, is not also my liking.
So, is your bike running fine now?
I'm thinking of getting powerage exhaust, DNA air filter and delete air housing mod.
Bike is running fine, no problem whatsoever and I am running them without the baffles…. If you are doing these mods for performance then you won’t notice any difference. I love the exhaust note though…
@@RanjanSh I'm doing it just for sound.
Then go for it… it’s decent and not so loud.
If you want louder exhausts, go for other brands.
How do you record bother?? What do you use to record and how do you speak during recording?m
Are you asking about audio or video recording?
@@RanjanSh both bro 😂 your video is high quality and i can hear both audio of your voice and bike clearly how do you do that also make more vids!
@@mohamed_aariz6315 well, this video was shot by GoPro hero 9 in 4K and I used 2 mics, first one is a cheap 300rupee one and the 2nd one is boyo which costed 1600. Both have no difference in sound whatsoever.
I have some more videos on the channel, check them out.
I’ve bought new sound equipment lately, so ginne make more videos soon.
An out of context question. Does your bike have that thud sound at the front when going over bumps or bad roads? Like metal on metal impact kind of sound..
Are you referring to the sound of the shocks maxing out? Fully compressed.
@@RanjanSh no no.. Just going over small bumps on the road. Sounds like there's a loose piece of metal bouncing on impact. I felt/heard that sound on three interceptors not just mine. So i was just wondering if it's a general thing or if it's something to worry about.
Naa… I’ve never heard or felt anything as such.
@@RanjanSh I probably must get it checked then😂
Yes no harm in being sure. You can figure it out on yourself, just zero out where the sound is coming from….. or record a video and post it on Facebook interceptor page, you’ll get a solution.
Sounds like you never gave the ECU time to reajust
I installed the slip-ons a day earlier and idled the bike for quite long. This day (2nd day) I added the air filter and the bike wouldn’t idle for me to allow that readjustment time. It would turn off before that.
Sir I have also installed the same exhaust and I feel that the power is reduced
What is your take on this?
Did you have a drop in power??
You are partially correct. There is no loss in power, the power gets ‘displaced’. Means, the power delivery is different at a different time compared to stock.
@@RanjanSh Thankyou for helping a fellow biker sir 😁.
Looking forward towards your future videos....
Brother which headlight you are using name & Price where I can get this headlights ?
HJC from local shop. I don’t know if it’s genuine HJC because there is no branding on the headlight. It costed me 3K
Hi Ranjan I have the same exhausts as you powerage exhausts my issue is a bit different the exhaust on the right side where the saree guard is their is a vv slight air leakage at the exhaust clamp is this an issue to be worried about because I have showed it to mechanics and they said you don't need to worry the bike will be fine.
Bro I’m not an expert but I’d suggest you fix the leak…. Overheating might impact life of engine parts .
@@RanjanSh I've even shown it to the mechanics at enfield they say it's completely fine that I don't need to worry about this
@@rohinkaushal1401 they might be right, but in my experience, the RE technicians are very low skilled. They are only good at changing oils and cables…
I put the replacement clamp over the exhaust and now majority of the leakage is gone it doesn't leak when the bike idles and also doesn't leak when I rev the bike but I'll have to double check once the bike cools but their is a gas leak at the bend pipe if I cover the exhaust should I still do something to block the leak(their is only one option that is m seal clear rtv) or do you think it's fine now
@@rohinkaushal1401 if the leak is at the bend pipe, header side then you should fix it… use Mseal or, get it welded. mSeal might not be able to withhold the heat.
Can we use normal air filter when we install new exaust or we must go with k&n or bmc.
With slip-on exhausts, air filter change not required. if you go for free flow exhausts then Airfilter stage 2 is a must.
@@RanjanSh I ordered aew te101 mild steel. What about that???
It’s ok to not upgrade airfilter.
Disconnect the battery and start again,,, idle for 15 mins
Still sounds like the ECU
I think you need to have let the motor completely warm up and cool down without touching the throttle so the EMU can remap the new airflow parameters the new air filter and exhaust will have given it. That's what I did with mine and I have had no issues.
Yes, you are right. I did this a day before… in my previous video when I installed both these products. Didn’t think the filter plate would matter much, but looks like it did. Actually, even to allow it to heat up, if you see in the video the bike was losing RPM and shutting down. Didn’t want to forcefully jee throttling.
is it mandatory to use an aftermarket air filter if we are using these exhausts??
Not at all mandatory.
Air filter increases the air intake into the engine, that’s it. Has no relation with the exhaust.
yes it is because your air output is more, your air intake needs to be more, otherwise it’ll choke the engine
@dhanush - it’s just a myth…. The exhausts do not create a vaccum - meaning, if air intake is low, just because the exhaust pipe is free flow, it will not tend to suck more air from the headers.
So for performance upgrade, people change Air filters, free flow exhaust and ECU remap to inject more fuel for the extra air, that increases performance since combustion is increased. If you change air filter or just the exhaust, nothing is going to happen….
@@RanjanSh yeah but if you dont change the air filter, the fuel mix will be lean and thats not good for the motorcycle right?
Nothing like that. Again, the air filter is not pumping any air, it’s just allowing more air (incase asked/sucked) the ECU is a smart one, it only asks for as much air enough for air/fuel mixture.
Only if you do an ECU remap, and don’t change the air filter, the bike will run lean.
Any challan till date?
Nope…. The exhaust note sounds very genuine, so cops never find anything wrong with it.